We engaged in nuclear cooperation with India, abrogating our obligations under the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty. So, now India is in the drivers seat in regard to our relations with China. Basically, there is nothing we can say. India has carte blanche. We should end nuclear cooperation with them immediately.
It is true that there are journals all over the world and suitability does matter. I'm not sure those that a US grant to study flu strains academically is the same as NK commissioning a bomb design. There is an expectation of publication in the former case.
Seems to me that the grant supporting the research came from the US so submission for publication in a US journal is pretty normal. I got some telescope time on a UK telescope and published in a UK journal as a result. It is hard to say I was exporting science to the UK when they built the telescope and instrument I used. And, if the journal Science is available in The Netherlands, as it is, how can it be said that the science has even left that country. Seems a little murky. At the least, it would be the journal, not the researcher, who is the publishing party and thus subject to this strange interpretation of export law.
For a boost phase ABM to work, it has to reach the ICBM while the booster is burning. That would be possible for Iran or China or North Korea, but not for Russia since the interceptor would have to travel over too much land to reach the target before it went dark. Since we have successful arms control agreements with the Russians, sticking with this type of anti-missile defense might be best. The return-to-sender aspects of boost phase ABMs also seems attractive. Of course, the interceptor is also under power and a bright target and so may be intercepted itself so the advantage may not last. But it is probably better than our anti-Iran deployment scheme which infuriates the Russians.
You are aware that meteors land cold right? Thermal conductivity does not permit the heating you are proposing. Sample return from the Moon proved very valuable. I'd expect the same from Mars.
No, they screwed up confidence in NASA science by using censorship, messed up the review process for manned space flight, and pushed for underbidding for JWST leaving an unnecessary competition between science missions. NASA needs to recover now by strongly backing its people such as Jim Hansen, enforcing fiscal discipline in bidding so that budget requests can be realistic, and sadly, go back to the drawing board on heavy lift. They were not just eight wasted years, they were eight years of retrograde motion.
Complexity Analysis of the Viking Labeled Release Experiments
Giorgio Bianciardi, Joseph D. Miller, Patricia Ann Straat and Gilbert V. Levin
The only extraterrestrial life detection experiments ever conducted were the three which were components of the 1976 Viking
Mission to Mars. Of these, only the Labeled Release experiment obtained a clearly positive response. In this experiment
14
C
radiolabeled nutrient was added to the Mars soil samples. Active soils exhibited rapid, substantial gas release. The gas was
probably CO2 and, possibly, other radiocarbon-containing gases. We have applied complexity analysis to the Viking LR data.
Measures of mathematical complexity permit deep analysis of data structure along continua including signal vs. noise, entropy
vs.negentropy, periodicity vs. aperiodicity, order vs. disorder etc. We have employed seven complexity variables, all derived from
LR data, to show that Viking LR active responses can be distinguished from controls via cluster analysis and other multivariate
techniques. Furthermore, Martian LR active response data cluster with known biological time series while the control data
cluster with purely physical measures. We conclude that the complexity pattern seen in active experiments strongly suggests
biology while the different pattern in the control responses is more likely to be non-biological. Control responses that exhibit
relatively low initial order rapidly devolve into near-random noise, while the active experiments exhibit higher initial order
which decays only slowly. This suggests a robust biological response. These analyses support the interpretation that the Viking
LR experiment did detect extant microbial life on Mars.
The experiment was set to detect biological activity. The results were ambiguous with some physical explanations not excluded at the time of the original analysis.
Not really. Bringing it back would allow closer study. It is nothing that hasn't landed here before owing to martian meteors, but an isolated sample could be checked for divergence from Earth life and give a check on how life disperses in the solar system.
Ron Paul voted against Pi Day. If we simply give up all interest in science and technology, the Chinese will have noting to steal. Just close the universities. Stop inventing stuff. Stop teaching math. That'll do the trick.
Sadly, you are wrong. There is a controversy about being related to monkeys that is divided along party lines. Thus, we can conclude that there is something wrong with the anti-science party.
It was not random. A physical mechanism was proposed. Hypothesis testing is not about throwing darts. We might get things wrong, and that is where the testing comes in. But we are not stupid on purpose. We test as though we are wrong, but we do not propose something to test thinking it is wrong, we propose it thinking it may be right. Proof by exhaustion is not a reasonable approach in an infinite universe.
My father worked on this in the 1960's. There was no real problem getting a plane to fly. The shielding for a realistic crew was a problem though. Drones don't have a crew so spot shielding for equipment might do the job. A flock of these might have a realistic chance at doing launch phase anti-ICBM work which might change strategic nuclear postures substantially. Pretty serious implications.
H5N1 will almost certainly become pandemic owing to mutations in the wild. The study showed that this is very likely. So, we know what to target in terms of vaccine development and with what urgency. It seems a lot of people missed this.
Scientists check and recheck and recheck their results. They are very conservative and guard against over interpreting their data. And then, the results get reviewed by other conservative scientists. The problem is not the scientists. The problem is the political conservatives not liking the results. It is a matter of wishful thinking on their part.
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We engaged in nuclear cooperation with India, abrogating our obligations under the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty. So, now India is in the drivers seat in regard to our relations with China. Basically, there is nothing we can say. India has carte blanche. We should end nuclear cooperation with them immediately.
Hard to equate hardware with science I think.
It is true that there are journals all over the world and suitability does matter. I'm not sure those that a US grant to study flu strains academically is the same as NK commissioning a bomb design. There is an expectation of publication in the former case.
The research indicated that H5N1 will likely become pandemic naturally. So, know we know that a vaccine is a priority.
Seems to me that the grant supporting the research came from the US so submission for publication in a US journal is pretty normal. I got some telescope time on a UK telescope and published in a UK journal as a result. It is hard to say I was exporting science to the UK when they built the telescope and instrument I used. And, if the journal Science is available in The Netherlands, as it is, how can it be said that the science has even left that country. Seems a little murky. At the least, it would be the journal, not the researcher, who is the publishing party and thus subject to this strange interpretation of export law.
It has taken a very long time for some Klan associated murderers to come to trail. Yet the Klan has been on the losing side even from its inception.
For a boost phase ABM to work, it has to reach the ICBM while the booster is burning. That would be possible for Iran or China or North Korea, but not for Russia since the interceptor would have to travel over too much land to reach the target before it went dark. Since we have successful arms control agreements with the Russians, sticking with this type of anti-missile defense might be best. The return-to-sender aspects of boost phase ABMs also seems attractive. Of course, the interceptor is also under power and a bright target and so may be intercepted itself so the advantage may not last. But it is probably better than our anti-Iran deployment scheme which infuriates the Russians.
This is what is so stupid about people who hate NASA. It is not a choice between space and something else. NASA is a small part of the budget.
It was really 43 websites. But you didn't hear that from me....
You are aware that meteors land cold right? Thermal conductivity does not permit the heating you are proposing. Sample return from the Moon proved very valuable. I'd expect the same from Mars.
No, they screwed up confidence in NASA science by using censorship, messed up the review process for manned space flight, and pushed for underbidding for JWST leaving an unnecessary competition between science missions. NASA needs to recover now by strongly backing its people such as Jim Hansen, enforcing fiscal discipline in bidding so that budget requests can be realistic, and sadly, go back to the drawing board on heavy lift. They were not just eight wasted years, they were eight years of retrograde motion.
Seems to me that it is recovering from eight years of misdirection. The former administration's micromanagement made a huge mess.
Complexity Analysis of the Viking Labeled Release Experiments
Giorgio Bianciardi, Joseph D. Miller, Patricia Ann Straat and Gilbert V. Levin
The only extraterrestrial life detection experiments ever conducted were the three which were components of the 1976 Viking Mission to Mars. Of these, only the Labeled Release experiment obtained a clearly positive response. In this experiment 14 C radiolabeled nutrient was added to the Mars soil samples. Active soils exhibited rapid, substantial gas release. The gas was probably CO2 and, possibly, other radiocarbon-containing gases. We have applied complexity analysis to the Viking LR data. Measures of mathematical complexity permit deep analysis of data structure along continua including signal vs. noise, entropy vs.negentropy, periodicity vs. aperiodicity, order vs. disorder etc. We have employed seven complexity variables, all derived from LR data, to show that Viking LR active responses can be distinguished from controls via cluster analysis and other multivariate techniques. Furthermore, Martian LR active response data cluster with known biological time series while the control data cluster with purely physical measures. We conclude that the complexity pattern seen in active experiments strongly suggests biology while the different pattern in the control responses is more likely to be non-biological. Control responses that exhibit relatively low initial order rapidly devolve into near-random noise, while the active experiments exhibit higher initial order which decays only slowly. This suggests a robust biological response. These analyses support the interpretation that the Viking LR experiment did detect extant microbial life on Mars.
The experiment was set to detect biological activity. The results were ambiguous with some physical explanations not excluded at the time of the original analysis.
Not really. Bringing it back would allow closer study. It is nothing that hasn't landed here before owing to martian meteors, but an isolated sample could be checked for divergence from Earth life and give a check on how life disperses in the solar system.
Reminds me of how idiotic the alumni were when women were first admitted to Dartmouth College. Back to the golf course guys.
They democratized?
Ron Paul voted against Pi Day. If we simply give up all interest in science and technology, the Chinese will have noting to steal. Just close the universities. Stop inventing stuff. Stop teaching math. That'll do the trick.
Sadly, you are wrong. There is a controversy about being related to monkeys that is divided along party lines. Thus, we can conclude that there is something wrong with the anti-science party.
It was not random. A physical mechanism was proposed. Hypothesis testing is not about throwing darts. We might get things wrong, and that is where the testing comes in. But we are not stupid on purpose. We test as though we are wrong, but we do not propose something to test thinking it is wrong, we propose it thinking it may be right. Proof by exhaustion is not a reasonable approach in an infinite universe.
My father worked on this in the 1960's. There was no real problem getting a plane to fly. The shielding for a realistic crew was a problem though. Drones don't have a crew so spot shielding for equipment might do the job. A flock of these might have a realistic chance at doing launch phase anti-ICBM work which might change strategic nuclear postures substantially. Pretty serious implications.
H5N1 will almost certainly become pandemic owing to mutations in the wild. The study showed that this is very likely. So, we know what to target in terms of vaccine development and with what urgency. It seems a lot of people missed this.
But it does not raise radiation levels since the ash is at background concentration, already mixed. It is like pushing dirt around with a bulldozer.
Right, civilian control. How better to secure the blessings of liberty?
Scientists check and recheck and recheck their results. They are very conservative and guard against over interpreting their data. And then, the results get reviewed by other conservative scientists. The problem is not the scientists. The problem is the political conservatives not liking the results. It is a matter of wishful thinking on their part.