You're either smoking crack, or you've never used Windows. Microsoft's development environment blows Linux's out of the water, period. (...) Hell, web development alone: point to me a better web development environment on Linux than Expression Web on Windows.
What you guys fail to see is that we DON'T need an integrated environment inside a single UI like Visual Studio. And do you know why? Because the whole GNU/Linux system is interoperable. It's a big and happy family of tools and applications, perdiod.
So while Microsoft came out with their OH SO INNOVATIVE.NET solution to give some interoperability between different languages and applications, you fail to realize that we had that system working way before. - It's UNIX!
Want an example? Suppose you want to show up in your webapp the current webserver bandwidth (taken/available).
How would you do that on.NET? If.NET doesn't provide you an API to do that (I really don't know if it does), you are skull fucked in the ass because you are always dependent on what Microsoft allows you to have in their limited ecosystem.
However, one of the zilion solutions to solve the problem on UNIX would be: 1) Create a cgi-bin in (perl, python, bash, whatever you like). 2) Make the script dump and filter the statistics from the iptables. 3) Format the data in a pretty way. 3) Secure input on the cgi-bin script. 4) ?? 5) Profit!
Of course, you're still smoking crack. Because even if Microsoft did have poor development tools, the single fact that you can run your Windows application on over 90% of the world's computers with no modification makes it far more relevant than any other system.
If your definition of good development tool is a bulky UI that dumps everything in your face, I would totally agree.
Just because on GNU/Linux every tool is maintained by different people under different directions and don't show up under the same UI, it doesn't mean you can't use all of them for the same purpose.
As I see it, this is a great way to let Microsoft introduce errors in (for example) firefox rendered html, showing the fake/non-original rendered output to users. People in their complete ignorance would just assume it is a Firefox problem.
Windows and Linux aren't designed for PCs beyond quad-core chips, and programmers are to blame for that. Developers still write programs for single-core chips and need the tools necessary to break up tasks over multiple cores.
How many times do we have to tell that Linux *IS* the fscking kernel??
Given that, including Linux and Windows in the same bag doesn't make sense. Which makes the entire post m00t.
Solutions: 1) s/Windows/Windows NT kernel/ 2) s/Linux/GNU\/Linux/
The real thing is that auto-configurations and wizards always bring problems.
Just remember windows, the dialog where you change the ip-address. When you apply your changes, the dialog gets unresponsive for a while and you don't really know what is happening in the background. And notice that changing the IP address can be considered an "atomic" operation.
Now image some other dialog that is supposed to do a lot more.. It would be a pain wouldn't it?
That's something that will never happen when you are at a CLI. Even if you have a script for doing a bunch of stuff, you can always know the line where it failed and why it failed.
Tambem eu, tudo bem?. Nao podia concordar mais com o que escreveste mas vamos ao que interessa..
I'm glad that the complaint went through and hope they can coax the European Courts to issue a legally binding EU-wide mandate on interoperability.
That would be nice indeed. Although it's not the first time that Microsoft creates a lobby to influence EU court decisions. Even if Microsoft does nothing to protect what it managed to grow up during all these years (no it's not an operating system), most people is educated (schools, university,..) with the fantasy that there is only a God.
The new standardized EU passports have digital biometric information on them too. Although I don't think it is RFID.
Last time I used my passport, I had to specifically show the first page (where my photo is) faced down to the reader. Other page/orientation combinations didn't work.
So I think they read the information by infra-red. I didn't Google, it's only a guess.
Protection against the relatively new threat of 'clickjacking,' where a site tries to get you to press buttons underneath a sham frame page, has also been added â" the first browser to include such protections
NOScript does this for years.
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I had completely forgotten about my near-useless Qtek 9100 (same as HTC Wizard, the slight difference being the casing, colours and market) Is it any good, or is it just as treacle-slow as the Windows implementation?
Windows Mobile is slow crap indeed, totally useless. If I didn't enjoy myself so much hacking the wizard to run Linux, my QTEK 9100 would be already on ebay.
Argh, who am I kidding, I'm probably going to dig it up and have a go either way. F/OSS FTW!:-D
Yeah.. I run Linux 2.6.22 on my HTC Wizard (TI OMAP 850 200Mhz). The only thing I feel a little overkill for it is GPE with all the GTK+ related stuff (pango, cairo..). GNU libc is fine also, it doesn't need uclibc.
As a member of the gentoo embedded team I would recommend the use of crossdev to generate the toolchain. By emerging crossdev-wrappers and setting up some gentooish cross-compiler environment, it is possible to cross-compile (by simply emerging them) a lot of packages on portage. Emerge will take care of most things leaving the most ugly cross-compile errors for you.
I think nobody really knows what's the real market share of Linux.
On the desktop: The number of downloaded cd images of each distro it's no viable. The number of registered users is not a good sample. Browser referrals can be cheated (good thing that's not needed anymore) and people doesn't navigate all in the same place (Hum.. maybe google was able to do this). There is people with Linux cooked at home (small distros, LFS..). There is a lot of people dual booting with Windows and a lot of people running it on a VM.
There is also Linux on embedded devices. Our wifi router, divx/dvd player, might have Linux and most of us don't even know.
How many XWindow interfaces are there, and how many would I have to target to hit all the distrobutions? If I wrote one virus targeting KDE and GNOME how many distributions do you think I would get? 99%?
FAIL Vulnerabilities are found on IMPLEMENTATIONS not the API itself. Furthermore, there are zilions of different implementations for the same API of FOOBAR software in the opensource community. Even the API changes across software versions. Each distro also provides different stabilized software versions with their own "hot" patches.
There are a lot of 'bots' running on Linux boxes around the world that got in via a remote root exploit or even a user clicking on crap or installing a tainted binary. But because the users are like you, they know it isn't them and can't possibly be happening on their boxes.
STOP! Don't make wrong assumptions about me based on a couple of/. posts. You attitude is arrogant, so, I don't care and I won't reply any further.
Ya, sure you are 'less likely', but I could write some software tonight that targets Linux Distributions, and throw it out on sites and then we will see how soon it is before Linux zealots never go for the obscurity defense again.
1) It is not that easy, GNU/Linux distros are sufficiently different from each other which makes cross-distro virus difficult to make. 2) Also, each distro provides a secure centralized software base, which makes difficult to target a particular application. 3) There is also the user factor. Each Linux setup tend to be very user specific. 4) GNU/Linux works in a regular update basis.
Finally, your malware site logic won't work as you desire because of 1) and 3). Exploiting vulnerabilities will, actually, only work on a minimal subset of all GNU/Linux boxes. Due to 4), known vulnerabilities are either alreay fixed or will continue in the wild for a reduced time.
Already, there is an uprising of newbie techie Linux community users that have bots on their systems and are contributing to more spam and other bot crap than they realize. It is time for the old timers to educate the new generation of *nix users and explain, they are not immune.
O'Really? And did you know that's not because of GNU/Linux viruses? These are just GNU/Linux computers who have been "hacked" and are being used as proxies or remote shells. Most people used to Windows that moved to Linux don't realize how critical is to have a secure root and user account password. Mind you that default windows installations don't enforce account passwords. So, I would call it "bad education" provided by Windows experience instead.
You don't get good malware-removal tools running on Linux because it doesn't need them. ClamAV is mostly used on Linux gateways to scan incoming traffic for Windows virus.
You get good malware-removal tools on Windows because you get almost all of your malware on said OS because that OS is very popular and crappy hence has many masochist developers who likes to spend their time cleaning up mess on the said operating system.
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You're either smoking crack, or you've never used Windows. Microsoft's development environment blows Linux's out of the water, period.
(...)
Hell, web development alone: point to me a better web development environment on Linux than Expression Web on Windows.
What you guys fail to see is that we DON'T need an integrated environment inside a single UI like Visual Studio. And do you know why? Because the whole GNU/Linux system is interoperable. It's a big and happy family of tools and applications, perdiod.
So while Microsoft came out with their OH SO INNOVATIVE .NET solution to give some interoperability between different languages and applications, you fail to realize that we had that system working way before. - It's UNIX!
Want an example?
Suppose you want to show up in your webapp the current webserver bandwidth (taken/available).
How would you do that on .NET? .NET doesn't provide you an API to do that (I really don't know if it does), you are skull fucked in the ass because you are always dependent on what Microsoft allows you to have in their limited ecosystem.
If
However, one of the zilion solutions to solve the problem on UNIX would be:
1) Create a cgi-bin in (perl, python, bash, whatever you like).
2) Make the script dump and filter the statistics from the iptables.
3) Format the data in a pretty way.
3) Secure input on the cgi-bin script.
4) ??
5) Profit!
Of course, you're still smoking crack. Because even if Microsoft did have poor development tools,
the single fact that you can run your Windows application on over 90% of the world's computers with no modification makes it far more relevant than any other system.
If your definition of good development tool is a bulky UI that dumps everything in your face, I would totally agree.
Just because on GNU/Linux every tool is maintained by different people under different directions and don't show up under the same UI, it doesn't mean you can't use all of them for the same purpose.
As I see it, this is a great way to let Microsoft introduce errors in (for example) firefox rendered html, showing the fake/non-original rendered output to users. People in their complete ignorance would just assume it is a Firefox problem.
Trying to take "embrace" the competition, heh?
Windows and Linux aren't designed for PCs beyond quad-core chips, and programmers are to blame for that. Developers still write programs for single-core chips and need the tools necessary to break up tasks over multiple cores.
How many times do we have to tell that Linux *IS* the fscking kernel??
Given that, including Linux and Windows in the same bag doesn't make sense. Which makes the entire post m00t.
Solutions:
1) s/Windows/Windows NT kernel/
2) s/Linux/GNU\/Linux/
Nice try to get a battle though.
The real thing is that auto-configurations and wizards always bring problems.
Just remember windows, the dialog where you change the ip-address. When you apply your changes, the dialog gets unresponsive for a while and you don't really know what is happening in the background. And notice that changing the IP address can be considered an "atomic" operation.
Now image some other dialog that is supposed to do a lot more.. It would be a pain wouldn't it?
That's something that will never happen when you are at a CLI. Even if you have a script for doing a bunch of stuff, you can always know the line where it failed and why it failed.
Of course it does! What were you expecting? A miracle?
Speaking as a portuguese,
Tambem eu, tudo bem?. Nao podia concordar mais com o que escreveste mas vamos ao que interessa..
I'm glad that the complaint went through and hope they can coax the European Courts to issue a legally binding EU-wide mandate on interoperability.
That would be nice indeed. Although it's not the first time that Microsoft creates a lobby to influence EU court decisions. ..) with the fantasy that there is only a God.
Even if Microsoft does nothing to protect what it managed to grow up during all these years (no it's not an operating system), most people is educated (schools, university,
I know suspend/resume on Windows isn't the best supported feature, but can it be stopped???!!!
Look at me on a freshly installed Windows 7:
Start->(1500 menu clicks)->shutdown
See, it can be stopped perfectly.
Oh, wait...
WTF?
??
Still here?
[ An exception 0E has occurred at 000E:C29325654 ]
Press CTRL+ALT+DEL to restart your comput
The new standardized EU passports have digital biometric information on them too. Although I don't think it is RFID.
Last time I used my passport, I had to specifically show the first page (where my photo is) faced down to the reader. Other page/orientation combinations didn't work.
So I think they read the information by infra-red. I didn't Google, it's only a guess.
Protection against the relatively new threat of 'clickjacking,' where a site tries to get you to press buttons underneath a sham frame page, has also been added â" the first browser to include such protections
NOScript does this for years.
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I had completely forgotten about my near-useless Qtek 9100 (same as HTC Wizard, the slight difference being the casing, colours and market)
Is it any good, or is it just as treacle-slow as the Windows implementation?
Windows Mobile is slow crap indeed, totally useless. If I didn't enjoy myself so much hacking the wizard to run Linux, my QTEK 9100 would be already on ebay.
Argh, who am I kidding, I'm probably going to dig it up and have a go either way. F/OSS FTW! :-D
Well.. Good news then. :) Because I'm one of the developers that are porting Linux to the wizard.
Check out our website at
http://sourceforge.net/projects/linwizard/
Here is what is working: USB, Leds, vibrator, touchscreen, keyboard, SD/MMC host.
We are currently working on GSM and audio.
We are gathered up at #linwizard @ irc.freenode.net , join us for more details.
Lets give some utility to that wonderful device with a qwerty keyboard, shall we?
Yeah.. I run Linux 2.6.22 on my HTC Wizard (TI OMAP 850 200Mhz). The only thing I feel a little overkill for it is GPE with all the GTK+ related stuff (pango, cairo ..).
GNU libc is fine also, it doesn't need uclibc.
Exactly, I would not say it better.
As a member of the gentoo embedded team I would recommend the use of crossdev to generate the toolchain.
By emerging crossdev-wrappers and setting up some gentooish cross-compiler environment, it is possible to cross-compile (by simply emerging them) a lot of packages on portage.
Emerge will take care of most things leaving the most ugly cross-compile errors for you.
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/cross-development.xml
Regarding the guide, don't use the xmerge script. Just emerge crossdev-wrappers instead.
Feel free to join #gentoo-embedded on irc.freenode.net
Happy xcompiling.
please mod parent up
anyway?
What? Someone has to change the meme sometimes.
I think nobody really knows what's the real market share of Linux.
On the desktop:
The number of downloaded cd images of each distro it's no viable.
The number of registered users is not a good sample.
Browser referrals can be cheated (good thing that's not needed anymore) and people doesn't navigate all in the same place (Hum.. maybe google was able to do this).
There is people with Linux cooked at home (small distros, LFS..).
There is a lot of people dual booting with Windows and a lot of people running it on a VM.
There is also Linux on embedded devices. Our wifi router, divx/dvd player, might have Linux and most of us don't even know.
Linux on servers.. Even on rockets going to moon.
How are we going to count all of that?
Install compatibility mode on Vista, and they ARE fully compatible.
Yes, you are right. The Vista CD fits perfectly on my toaster. Too bad it won't last long.
My 5 year old son is scared at night because Clippy is under the bed.
True story, he told me.
it's explained then..
How many XWindow interfaces are there, and how many would I have to target to hit all the distrobutions? If I wrote one virus targeting KDE and GNOME how many distributions do you think I would get? 99%?
FAIL
Vulnerabilities are found on IMPLEMENTATIONS not the API itself. Furthermore, there are zilions of different implementations for the same API of FOOBAR software in the opensource community. Even the API changes across software versions.
Each distro also provides different stabilized software versions with their own "hot" patches.
There are a lot of 'bots' running on Linux boxes around the world that got in via a remote root exploit or even a user clicking on crap or installing a tainted binary. But because the users are like you, they know it isn't them and can't possibly be happening on their boxes.
STOP! /. posts. You attitude is arrogant, so, I don't care and I won't reply any further.
Don't make wrong assumptions about me based on a couple of
Thank you, you made my day.
Ya, sure you are 'less likely', but I could write some software tonight that targets Linux Distributions, and throw it out on sites and then we will see how soon it is before Linux zealots never go for the obscurity defense again.
1) It is not that easy, GNU/Linux distros are sufficiently different from each other which makes cross-distro virus difficult to make.
2) Also, each distro provides a secure centralized software base, which makes difficult to target a particular application.
3) There is also the user factor. Each Linux setup tend to be very user specific.
4) GNU/Linux works in a regular update basis.
Finally, your malware site logic won't work as you desire because of 1) and 3). Exploiting vulnerabilities will, actually, only work on a minimal subset of all GNU/Linux boxes.
Due to 4), known vulnerabilities are either alreay fixed or will continue in the wild for a reduced time.
Already, there is an uprising of newbie techie Linux community users that have bots on their systems and are contributing to more spam and other bot crap than they realize. It is time for the old timers to educate the new generation of *nix users and explain, they are not immune.
O'Really? And did you know that's not because of GNU/Linux viruses?
These are just GNU/Linux computers who have been "hacked" and are being used as proxies or remote shells. Most people used to Windows that moved to Linux don't realize how critical is to have a secure root and user account password. Mind you that default windows installations don't enforce account passwords.
So, I would call it "bad education" provided by Windows experience instead.
You don't get good malware-removal tools running on Linux because it doesn't need them. ClamAV is mostly used on Linux gateways to scan incoming traffic for Windows virus.
You get good malware-removal tools on Windows because you get almost all of your malware on said OS because that OS is very popular and crappy hence has many masochist developers who likes to spend their time cleaning up mess on the said operating system.
There, fixed it for you.
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