Yes, sounds stupid, but I would find it to be a better idea than to implement some kind of 1984/Farenheit 451 security "utopia". It should also help the companys success in the future. Happy people work better and doesn't try to screw you over (in the bad sense that is).
It's the same for all nations, if the state uses up tax money to build a really phat backbone local ISPs can make good business and good prices without censorship for the people (the tax payers). Companies get good great access and novel ideas such as IP telephony and video on demand on da net would work better.
But the US also have a lot higher population. So the question would rather be, how many bits/s per student per area, or probably something even more relevant. In short, if you have 5 times as many students, you should be able to get 5*x longer cables.
I'm not trying to start a war, just trying to get some fair numbers.
Exactly, I can't figure out how anyone could ever make any real money on these technologies. P2P has it's uses, but it won't have any more impact that anything else in the computing world.
The ISPs doesn't have the money to build superfast networks and charge almost nothing for it. I am afraid that the massive use of bandwidth will only result in services where you pay according to how much bandwidth you eat up. That in turn will deliver the internet completely into the hands of the rich media companies that can afford setting up servers.
That sounds like a good thing, I wasn't saying "just one distro", I was just saying "have the same packages". It's the same programs that are being compiled and the same files in there. Both "I wanna use damn old and strange hardware"-girl and "Is that my computer?"-guy can install the same binaries.
Freedom of choice? What kind of freedom are you actually speaking about here? I agree that the choice should be free, but sometimes the choices are pretty useless to be honest. The different packaging standards doesn't convey anything radically different from each other, they are simply not compatible. For the same reason that all the linux distros wants to use a binary compatible compiler (gcc in all cases I persume, but the iNTEL compiler should work as well) I don't see why all distros wouldn't want the same packages.
This means that they can have their own management of the packages. One can go play with the command line, another can have a different kind of database to keep track of everything. Some might share parts of the management software (Like RPM is shared). But why would they package the same software differently?
I think that you are taking the "Freedom of choice" way too far beyond what is practical. Standardization (as if I could spell that word) is often a very good thing. That is why all scientists are using the SI system instead of the completely moronic imperial way of doing things with feet and Farenheit (I admit to not using Kelvin as standard, which is bad of me).
I would like to see a package manager for KDE (and those who do Gnome, probably want one for Gnome;)), and one package system for *BSD/Linux. Is there a single good reason to have a bunch of different ones? Especially knowing how good Red Hat is at doing anything (need I remind you of gcc 2.96.x for example...).
It's the same kernel, there are no need for special packages for different distributions. How come the linux distributions can't cooperate worth shit? If they want to add value to their distributions (such as is done with MacOS X and Windows XP, it's the same idea) that's great, but don't add different solutions to the same problem without _really_ adding anything. I am sure ever single linux user would love to be able to download the same package regardless of what distro you are on. And belive me, all those who try to support linux (iNTEL with their great compiler, nVidia with drivers, etc) will have a much easier time.
Then you can have your own package manager, like debian apt-get or a full blown bloated "want to be netscape and do everything by ourselves" super GUI app with IM, mail and a word processor.
You must be speaking about some kind of asexual longbearded hacker type of developer (you know who), but I don't think this view of developers hold true anymore. I for example (there are plenty others) am both a developer and an end user. I hate having to answer stupid questions (as if I care about installing drivers, do it for me, I love XP for this, works like a charm), yet I can easily be described as a computer geek.
What it all boils down to is that don't ask someone who has no idea of what the users might need. What the person might be should be irrelevant. It's like saying "don't ask males, females uses computers less, and we should ask them!", or to design a car for someone who hasn't sat in one before (The Dodge Viper wouldn't exist then).
Yes, I'm answering a rant with a new rant, but there has to be a stop to this "developers are nutcases" and "users are morons" missconceptions. As long as you don't completely lack common sense you can do this. And if you want help, there are tons of litrature out there, or you can read Microsoft's (gasp!) stuff about user interfaces on msdn. I think that KDE has a bunch of nice stuff on their pages too.
"So what IM do you have installed? Not ours? Sorry, I can't help you" etc etc. Microsoft Windows has one very big advantage. It's one package which is designed to work together. Mozilla doesn't work like a windows application, nor does Netscape or AIM. And they are not only designed to work together on a binary level, but at a userlevel.
For a second forget the fact that you will willingly put countless amounts of hours to change your system, compile and download odd pieces of software and patches. Think about someone who doesn't think computers are the most exciting thing in the world. Why would they want to buy a version of Windows without the applications they already, painstainkingly, have leared how to use in class, from friends, or from litrature? Why would they pay *MORE* in total to get what Windows normally offers? It's a bundle, it's meant to be good for the user, and it is.
A real choice would be MacOS X, Windows XP, and _ONE_ linux distro with _ONE_ desktop. We computer geeks can shout and scream, but we are no longer a majority. Be happy that Linux does exist so you can have it as a hobby (and some work with it), but don't go assuming what you want is the best for everyone.
Don't be afraid of Microsoft, they just wanna sell products. Be afraid of the companies that wants to control the media, to control the masses. They are scary, look at Berlusconi (no idea how it's spelled, sorry all Italians) and what he is doing in Europe right now. What AOL/Time Warning is doing in the states.
If you want to make a statement, make better software for !windows, use !windows, and the day there is a better OS for me than XP I will switch (and I will be the only one making that decision, I know far too much about computers to let anyone else do it. Just as you probably do. So I would be just as pissed if you told me to use Linux, as you would be if I told you to use XP).
Ok, now I probably have your attention. "Does this guy WANT kiddie pr0n???", no I don't want it. But I want it to be found, by the authorities, so it can be dealt with. I want neo nazi's to speak up and be heard, and thus be forced into a dialogue with people who don't share their views on the world (I myself hope that they will stop for a second and think. I refuse to belive that all of them are evil, and anything that can make them rethink is good).
You obviously read slashdot (duh), and you obviously has some knowledge about computers and the net. What happens when someone tries to stop warez? Tries to stop mp3s? Stop VCDs/SVCDs etc? What about being anonymous on the net? Someone will react and make some software to do it anyway, without someone being able to see it. They will make free net, strong crypto, you name it. It's all about technology.
But what happens when a system made to people in oppressed countries express their fears and opinions is used by these people, those who want to share their awful acts with others? They will be even harder to find, even harder to flush out, even harder to control. The "demand" won't stop, so they supply will take new ways to reach their destination.
So in conclusion, don't help these people by making it more safe for them, find them, expose them and shut them down. Reporting them will be easier if someone sees them. Only if there are pages in other countries who refuses to remove them should some sort of ban be used.
I wish I knew a link to one of the organizations who work with flushing these people out, so I could give it to you and you could help. I wish google et al would put their search engines to good use to report these people somehow. I wish people would think then act...
There is one very simple reason to why OS/2 failed and Windows did not. Microsoft gave their all to make Windows win, they didn't have hardware sales to worry about as well. Just as Sun today are not willing to put all their eggs in one basket with Java but also wants to push slow expensive hardware and an outdated OS.
To win you have to want to win, bad. For this is what Bill and Steve wants to, they want to give people what they want (that is normal people, they don't want to pay extra for a bunch of stuff, they want one package, and have all they need. I want that too, and I consider myself a computer geek after all) and they want to win. Though I personally don't think they try to be some "evil empire" and gets accused of a lot of things they haven't done. Anyone dealing with software on that scale knows how hard it is, and interfaces etc are bound to change. Heck, free software is even worse.
So, this turned into a rant again. So for all you linuxnerds out there. If "Linux" is going to succeed, Mandrake/SuSE/RedHat/etc better join forces and put all their eggs in one basket. Produce one OS that looks and works the same all the time (you won't get away with several desktops, Apple and Microsoft is going to tear you to shreds, with good reasons) with a good set of applications and tools to go with it. Yes, to integrate and bundle *IS* good for the consumer. Anyone who says anything else must be mad. I buy a car, not a bunch of parts to build a car with (we all know the cost for that).
Just wait until you can only see AOL approved sites, wouldn't that be nice? Why is AOL cheered when they do what Microsoft supposedly did and is so incredibly hated for? Why should I be limited to a set of software if want to go onto the net? With Microsoft I can say "stuff it!" and installed Debian with KDE. But here you will be forcefed AOLs vision of what they want, and they want !Microsoft, not free software, not GPL, not standard. They want marketshare, they want to get rid of anything but themselves, and if they can get that tool for free, they just like it.
Separate media, connection, and OS, don't split up OSes...
Exactly. NTFS is a great filesystem all in all, and I haven't lost a single file ever due to powerloss or similar. I would dare pulling the cord from the back of my computer while it's running. Would you dare that with ext2? You say you run XFS/ReiserFS/etc instead? Go figure...
How come the goverment (I assume the original article is US centric, because of the example of social security numbers) wants to brand its citizens and keep track of them in a typical big brother fashion? I can't see any problem with the technology, I would love to have it so that it's hard to forge these types of IDs and I would love to lessen the number of cards that I have to carry. I already have a "version number" since I live in Sweden and I have a so called personal number (personnummer, I unfortunatly don't know a better translation).
I am not going to go into any kind of US bashing, as that works against my goal here. I do on the other hand want to ask you why you have all these fears, and what kind of goverment that is in power. I would have expected this kind of behaviour from the Taliban, The Stalin Sovjet Union, the Stasi in old East Germany, or from fictional settings such as Farenheit 451 or 1984. Is this also going to be the reality in todays USA with the SS, NSA, FBI, CIA, AOL, DIA, etc acting as SS, SA, Stasi, KGB, GRU, etc?
Hmm, I don't think I will really change anything with this rant, but maybe the few of you who read it might think about it. Agree with me, disagree with me, have opinions, but first and foremost, think about what freedom really is, and how to sustain it.
then how about making it about processing power? Because the G4 lags behind, bad. I'm fully aware of what makes a CPU fast or not, and I know that a dual Pentium 4 Xeon 2.2GHz is enormously much fastar than a dual G4 1Ghz, not because of Mhz but because it's simply a faster CPU. To belive Apples rants about the Photoshop filters is naive at best.
I would never buy something that is slower && more expensive, that simply doesn't make sense. I remember when I thougt the Amiga was all that there was, I grew up and vowed to never be that stupid again. I would only use what is best for me, whomever it might be that makes it. Today AMD makes the best CPUs for the buck, tomorrow it might be iNTEL again. Motorola/IBM will be hard pressed to get in the front.
This feels like a step back towards VHS to be honest. No matter which laser and underlying techique for saving the bits they use, they want to use a lower bitrate, and that will not make for good results. Is this so that we can't enjoy good quality movies at home? The day they start to care about quality, for real, is the last day I will ever download a movie...
First of all, is it the interface of MacOS 9.x and older that he is praising? The most hopeless interface that I have been stuck with for any period of time. It breaks a host of interface rules, and clings like fanatics to others. I have no harder reaching my taskbar on the top of my screen (where it belongs very much thank you) than I have reaching my menus in IE.
I agree with him in many ways, but he is way too arrogant, and doesn't have nearly enough behind his so called science. A uniform way of using the OS and applications is very important, especially for the non nerds. If you teach a class, and the computer the person then sits behind at his/her new job looks completely different, everything will be lost.
But to use novice computer users as some form of basis for how an interface should work, it's just plain dumb. I belive one needs to put into science the art of making interfaces, but before that we definitly need to get one thing straight, there are different people using computers, and most of them will spend quite some time infront of the glow of the screen, those should be just as important as the novice. After all, how would cars look if all of them were built for peoples first try? I am sure they wouldn't come to the Viper that way...
Great point. It all boils down to having to be practical after all.
Just an addition though. How do you "fix" your dilemma of doing it like IE or like the standard? A check box;) Check in for "Simulate IE" or "W3C Standard". At least I would think that would be a great thing, keep it on W3C until something important renders wrong, then send a mail to complain to the webmaster, voila;)
And belive me, pirates will *love* this. Making it too easy to copy has made people swap freely, and those making and selling pirated copies will be unhappy since it doesn't give them money.
They can easily get into a very stupid position. They have to step back and think, not scream and shout.
I won't buy their stuff, but most people will. People don't care about these things, they care about the price for alcohol, who won the super ball and if the girl will put out...
Do we want Ford, Chrystler, and Toyota owning roads? It is after all the countries infrastructure.
I say, let the state/goverment/ dig the fiber, give local companies the chance to run the switches, and give a lot of companies the chance to compete with telephone, mobile phones, DSL, ether, services, blah, blah. This will create jobs, competition, new blood, better choice, etc, etc. That is what we like to see, world wide, not this *crap*...
This is what I like to see, this is good stuff. This should happen more often, everywhere, but it doesn't. I think I like Canada more and more to be honest.
Isn't anyone but me getting very sick and tired of this subject? Whether or not you are totally into linux or couldn't care less, I don't possibly see what yet another "Linux will roxx your world" article will do for us.
Please use your energy better by doing something to this goal everyone is shouting about. Start a business, make software, write documention, whatever. That can make a difference, claiming that Bill is the new satan won't make anyone a favor.
When I think about it, this looks more and more like a religious cult (like christianity et al) where "the one true road" is all that matters. Come on people, stop and think, get your priorities straight!
That said, I want to express how impressed I am with KDE. The finest piece of free software that I have ever seen. They have their priorities straight, they know what they want, and they know how to make a product. Impressive!
You very much did bring up the problems:) One of the big problems is separating services from applications, and to be able to handle all of them and all types of media.
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Yes, sounds stupid, but I would find it to be a better idea than to implement some kind of 1984/Farenheit 451 security "utopia". It should also help the companys success in the future. Happy people work better and doesn't try to screw you over (in the bad sense that is).
It's the same for all nations, if the state uses up tax money to build a really phat backbone local ISPs can make good business and good prices without censorship for the people (the tax payers). Companies get good great access and novel ideas such as IP telephony and video on demand on da net would work better.
More free bandwidth for the people!
But the US also have a lot higher population. So the question would rather be, how many bits/s per student per area, or probably something even more relevant. In short, if you have 5 times as many students, you should be able to get 5*x longer cables.
I'm not trying to start a war, just trying to get some fair numbers.
Exactly, I can't figure out how anyone could ever make any real money on these technologies. P2P has it's uses, but it won't have any more impact that anything else in the computing world.
The ISPs doesn't have the money to build superfast networks and charge almost nothing for it. I am afraid that the massive use of bandwidth will only result in services where you pay according to how much bandwidth you eat up. That in turn will deliver the internet completely into the hands of the rich media companies that can afford setting up servers.
That sounds like a good thing, I wasn't saying "just one distro", I was just saying "have the same packages". It's the same programs that are being compiled and the same files in there. Both "I wanna use damn old and strange hardware"-girl and "Is that my computer?"-guy can install the same binaries.
Freedom of choice? What kind of freedom are you actually speaking about here? I agree that the choice should be free, but sometimes the choices are pretty useless to be honest. The different packaging standards doesn't convey anything radically different from each other, they are simply not compatible. For the same reason that all the linux distros wants to use a binary compatible compiler (gcc in all cases I persume, but the iNTEL compiler should work as well) I don't see why all distros wouldn't want the same packages.
This means that they can have their own management of the packages. One can go play with the command line, another can have a different kind of database to keep track of everything. Some might share parts of the management software (Like RPM is shared). But why would they package the same software differently?
I think that you are taking the "Freedom of choice" way too far beyond what is practical. Standardization (as if I could spell that word) is often a very good thing. That is why all scientists are using the SI system instead of the completely moronic imperial way of doing things with feet and Farenheit (I admit to not using Kelvin as standard, which is bad of me).
I couldn't have said it better myself ^_^
Dang, can't come up with much more to say than that, but it's nice to see a nice reply to my rants for once. Good stuff ^_^
I would like to see a package manager for KDE (and those who do Gnome, probably want one for Gnome;)), and one package system for *BSD/Linux. Is there a single good reason to have a bunch of different ones? Especially knowing how good Red Hat is at doing anything (need I remind you of gcc 2.96.x for example...).
It's the same kernel, there are no need for special packages for different distributions. How come the linux distributions can't cooperate worth shit? If they want to add value to their distributions (such as is done with MacOS X and Windows XP, it's the same idea) that's great, but don't add different solutions to the same problem without _really_ adding anything. I am sure ever single linux user would love to be able to download the same package regardless of what distro you are on. And belive me, all those who try to support linux (iNTEL with their great compiler, nVidia with drivers, etc) will have a much easier time.
Then you can have your own package manager, like debian apt-get or a full blown bloated "want to be netscape and do everything by ourselves" super GUI app with IM, mail and a word processor.
You must be speaking about some kind of asexual longbearded hacker type of developer (you know who), but I don't think this view of developers hold true anymore. I for example (there are plenty others) am both a developer and an end user. I hate having to answer stupid questions (as if I care about installing drivers, do it for me, I love XP for this, works like a charm), yet I can easily be described as a computer geek.
What it all boils down to is that don't ask someone who has no idea of what the users might need. What the person might be should be irrelevant. It's like saying "don't ask males, females uses computers less, and we should ask them!", or to design a car for someone who hasn't sat in one before (The Dodge Viper wouldn't exist then).
Yes, I'm answering a rant with a new rant, but there has to be a stop to this "developers are nutcases" and "users are morons" missconceptions. As long as you don't completely lack common sense you can do this. And if you want help, there are tons of litrature out there, or you can read Microsoft's (gasp!) stuff about user interfaces on msdn. I think that KDE has a bunch of nice stuff on their pages too.
"So what IM do you have installed? Not ours? Sorry, I can't help you" etc etc. Microsoft Windows has one very big advantage. It's one package which is designed to work together. Mozilla doesn't work like a windows application, nor does Netscape or AIM. And they are not only designed to work together on a binary level, but at a userlevel.
For a second forget the fact that you will willingly put countless amounts of hours to change your system, compile and download odd pieces of software and patches. Think about someone who doesn't think computers are the most exciting thing in the world. Why would they want to buy a version of Windows without the applications they already, painstainkingly, have leared how to use in class, from friends, or from litrature? Why would they pay *MORE* in total to get what Windows normally offers? It's a bundle, it's meant to be good for the user, and it is.
A real choice would be MacOS X, Windows XP, and _ONE_ linux distro with _ONE_ desktop. We computer geeks can shout and scream, but we are no longer a majority. Be happy that Linux does exist so you can have it as a hobby (and some work with it), but don't go assuming what you want is the best for everyone.
Don't be afraid of Microsoft, they just wanna sell products. Be afraid of the companies that wants to control the media, to control the masses. They are scary, look at Berlusconi (no idea how it's spelled, sorry all Italians) and what he is doing in Europe right now. What AOL/Time Warning is doing in the states.
If you want to make a statement, make better software for !windows, use !windows, and the day there is a better OS for me than XP I will switch (and I will be the only one making that decision, I know far too much about computers to let anyone else do it. Just as you probably do. So I would be just as pissed if you told me to use Linux, as you would be if I told you to use XP).
Ok, now I probably have your attention. "Does this guy WANT kiddie pr0n???", no I don't want it. But I want it to be found, by the authorities, so it can be dealt with. I want neo nazi's to speak up and be heard, and thus be forced into a dialogue with people who don't share their views on the world (I myself hope that they will stop for a second and think. I refuse to belive that all of them are evil, and anything that can make them rethink is good).
You obviously read slashdot (duh), and you obviously has some knowledge about computers and the net. What happens when someone tries to stop warez? Tries to stop mp3s? Stop VCDs/SVCDs etc? What about being anonymous on the net? Someone will react and make some software to do it anyway, without someone being able to see it. They will make free net, strong crypto, you name it. It's all about technology.
But what happens when a system made to people in oppressed countries express their fears and opinions is used by these people, those who want to share their awful acts with others? They will be even harder to find, even harder to flush out, even harder to control. The "demand" won't stop, so they supply will take new ways to reach their destination.
So in conclusion, don't help these people by making it more safe for them, find them, expose them and shut them down. Reporting them will be easier if someone sees them. Only if there are pages in other countries who refuses to remove them should some sort of ban be used.
I wish I knew a link to one of the organizations who work with flushing these people out, so I could give it to you and you could help. I wish google et al would put their search engines to good use to report these people somehow. I wish people would think then act...
There is one very simple reason to why OS/2 failed and Windows did not. Microsoft gave their all to make Windows win, they didn't have hardware sales to worry about as well. Just as Sun today are not willing to put all their eggs in one basket with Java but also wants to push slow expensive hardware and an outdated OS.
To win you have to want to win, bad. For this is what Bill and Steve wants to, they want to give people what they want (that is normal people, they don't want to pay extra for a bunch of stuff, they want one package, and have all they need. I want that too, and I consider myself a computer geek after all) and they want to win. Though I personally don't think they try to be some "evil empire" and gets accused of a lot of things they haven't done. Anyone dealing with software on that scale knows how hard it is, and interfaces etc are bound to change. Heck, free software is even worse.
So, this turned into a rant again. So for all you linuxnerds out there. If "Linux" is going to succeed, Mandrake/SuSE/RedHat/etc better join forces and put all their eggs in one basket. Produce one OS that looks and works the same all the time (you won't get away with several desktops, Apple and Microsoft is going to tear you to shreds, with good reasons) with a good set of applications and tools to go with it. Yes, to integrate and bundle *IS* good for the consumer. Anyone who says anything else must be mad. I buy a car, not a bunch of parts to build a car with (we all know the cost for that).
Just wait until you can only see AOL approved sites, wouldn't that be nice? Why is AOL cheered when they do what Microsoft supposedly did and is so incredibly hated for? Why should I be limited to a set of software if want to go onto the net? With Microsoft I can say "stuff it!" and installed Debian with KDE. But here you will be forcefed AOLs vision of what they want, and they want !Microsoft, not free software, not GPL, not standard. They want marketshare, they want to get rid of anything but themselves, and if they can get that tool for free, they just like it.
Separate media, connection, and OS, don't split up OSes...
Exactly. NTFS is a great filesystem all in all, and I haven't lost a single file ever due to powerloss or similar. I would dare pulling the cord from the back of my computer while it's running. Would you dare that with ext2? You say you run XFS/ReiserFS/etc instead? Go figure...
How come the goverment (I assume the original article is US centric, because of the example of social security numbers) wants to brand its citizens and keep track of them in a typical big brother fashion? I can't see any problem with the technology, I would love to have it so that it's hard to forge these types of IDs and I would love to lessen the number of cards that I have to carry. I already have a "version number" since I live in Sweden and I have a so called personal number (personnummer, I unfortunatly don't know a better translation).
I am not going to go into any kind of US bashing, as that works against my goal here. I do on the other hand want to ask you why you have all these fears, and what kind of goverment that is in power. I would have expected this kind of behaviour from the Taliban, The Stalin Sovjet Union, the Stasi in old East Germany, or from fictional settings such as Farenheit 451 or 1984. Is this also going to be the reality in todays USA with the SS, NSA, FBI, CIA, AOL, DIA, etc acting as SS, SA, Stasi, KGB, GRU, etc?
Hmm, I don't think I will really change anything with this rant, but maybe the few of you who read it might think about it. Agree with me, disagree with me, have opinions, but first and foremost, think about what freedom really is, and how to sustain it.
"Not about the MHz",
then how about making it about processing power? Because the G4 lags behind, bad. I'm fully aware of what makes a CPU fast or not, and I know that a dual Pentium 4 Xeon 2.2GHz is enormously much fastar than a dual G4 1Ghz, not because of Mhz but because it's simply a faster CPU. To belive Apples rants about the Photoshop filters is naive at best.
I would never buy something that is slower && more expensive, that simply doesn't make sense. I remember when I thougt the Amiga was all that there was, I grew up and vowed to never be that stupid again. I would only use what is best for me, whomever it might be that makes it. Today AMD makes the best CPUs for the buck, tomorrow it might be iNTEL again. Motorola/IBM will be hard pressed to get in the front.
They are smaller, portable, and more powerful than the slow iMacs. Is there even a question of what is the smartest thing to do?
*bah* Now mod me -#inf all you Mac lovers
(A Mac with dual G5@1.8Ghz would have been competetive though)
This feels like a step back towards VHS to be honest. No matter which laser and underlying techique for saving the bits they use, they want to use a lower bitrate, and that will not make for good results. Is this so that we can't enjoy good quality movies at home? The day they start to care about quality, for real, is the last day I will ever download a movie...
First of all, is it the interface of MacOS 9.x and older that he is praising? The most hopeless interface that I have been stuck with for any period of time. It breaks a host of interface rules, and clings like fanatics to others. I have no harder reaching my taskbar on the top of my screen (where it belongs very much thank you) than I have reaching my menus in IE.
I agree with him in many ways, but he is way too arrogant, and doesn't have nearly enough behind his so called science. A uniform way of using the OS and applications is very important, especially for the non nerds. If you teach a class, and the computer the person then sits behind at his/her new job looks completely different, everything will be lost.
But to use novice computer users as some form of basis for how an interface should work, it's just plain dumb. I belive one needs to put into science the art of making interfaces, but before that we definitly need to get one thing straight, there are different people using computers, and most of them will spend quite some time infront of the glow of the screen, those should be just as important as the novice. After all, how would cars look if all of them were built for peoples first try? I am sure they wouldn't come to the Viper that way...
Great point. It all boils down to having to be practical after all.
;)
Just an addition though. How do you "fix" your dilemma of doing it like IE or like the standard? A check box;) Check in for "Simulate IE" or "W3C Standard". At least I would think that would be a great thing, keep it on W3C until something important renders wrong, then send a mail to complain to the webmaster, voila
And belive me, pirates will *love* this. Making it too easy to copy has made people swap freely, and those making and selling pirated copies will be unhappy since it doesn't give them money.
They can easily get into a very stupid position. They have to step back and think, not scream and shout.
I won't buy their stuff, but most people will. People don't care about these things, they care about the price for alcohol, who won the super ball and if the girl will put out...
Do we want Ford, Chrystler, and Toyota owning roads? It is after all the countries infrastructure.
I say, let the state/goverment/ dig the fiber, give local companies the chance to run the switches, and give a lot of companies the chance to compete with telephone, mobile phones, DSL, ether, services, blah, blah. This will create jobs, competition, new blood, better choice, etc, etc. That is what we like to see, world wide, not this *crap*...
This is what I like to see, this is good stuff. This should happen more often, everywhere, but it doesn't. I think I like Canada more and more to be honest.
Isn't anyone but me getting very sick and tired of this subject? Whether or not you are totally into linux or couldn't care less, I don't possibly see what yet another "Linux will roxx your world" article will do for us.
Please use your energy better by doing something to this goal everyone is shouting about. Start a business, make software, write documention, whatever. That can make a difference, claiming that Bill is the new satan won't make anyone a favor.
When I think about it, this looks more and more like a religious cult (like christianity et al) where "the one true road" is all that matters. Come on people, stop and think, get your priorities straight!
That said, I want to express how impressed I am with KDE. The finest piece of free software that I have ever seen. They have their priorities straight, they know what they want, and they know how to make a product. Impressive!
You very much did bring up the problems :) One of the big problems is separating services from applications, and to be able to handle all of them and all types of media.