Yes. It's your moot point. You have nothing to say about this. And I get pissed of every time people attack the FSF for no f*cking reason. Everything is done be free will. Let the Gnome people which actually DO something, decide whether FSF/GNU project is a good thing or not. You just have a problem with RMS (what I don't know, and I don't care).
I am not attacking the FSF. I am not saying that they are compleat tools. Im asking a resonable question: why are we paying attention to an orginization that has done nothing for us in a decade?
Youve proven my point. The so called GNU project has more or less forced GNOME to say that since GNOME uses the GPL. Or, put another way, they are alies. You cant take credit for your alies works. Being an ally of a good cause is itself usefull, but in the last decade FSF/GNU has only become allies to usefull projects.
My point is that RMS/FSF/GNU has, under there own roof, produced negligable amounts of usefull code in the last decade.
What, exactly, has RMS (and for that matter, the FSF) brought to the table in the last decade? They may have very well written a license that other people have used, and the did develope a free replacement to the unix/posix toolkit. But that was in the 80s.
What has the FSF done for us today, and more importantly, what are they going to do for us tomorrow?
I parsed that as Nathan's in Millers. My first thought (being Canadian) was WTF is a Nathan's, and why would you want to put it in boiling urine? Then I realized you were talking about boiling some hotdog in Beer. Then I realized what you realy meant.
But that leads to an interesting question: What would hot dogs taste like, boiled in beer?
Why, exactly, are you assuming that the points you make are not what alians beleive is a good thing? Prehaps there exists alians that beleive that starvation, enviromental distruction and war are good things.
Of course you don't get a hard drive or CD-ROM, so it seems to me pretty expensive considering you can get an entry level PC for about $550 including monitor, hard disk, CD-ROM etc. It's hard to compare performance since the Sun system is doing the bulk of the work on the server.
You dont need either. The idea is that everything is done centeraly. Nothing to fuck up on the desktop. No hardware to fail, no software to get misconfigured. The savings is in sysadmin and helpdesk labour, not necessaraly in hardware.
To extend (or back up) your argument - currently there is basicly only one office suite in use: microsoft office. Its aviabale on windows (duh) and for Macs. Ergo, if you want to use MSOffice (and people want software, hardware is irrelevent), you use either a PC or a Mac.
ie. Sun is SOL for the desktop market
But, if/when StarOffice reaches a point where it is a contender to MSOffice, then Sun can come in to big enterprizes and replace desktop PCs and servers on long term lease with Sunrays and big servers on long term lease.
Clearly you dont know where Lucas got his insperation for the SW series.
There was some movie from the 50s that detaled the lives of a pair of slaves. The 'slaves' in SW are C3P0 and R2D2... They are the two main characters and they are the characters who will be in all 3x3=9 movies...
and fortunatly you give me an excuse to jump on Katz.
Im not up on my military aircraft, but these things were transport helecopters, not two seater attack helecopters (or webservers).
And for the record, I diddnt realy like the movie. I diddnt get at all attached to the characters, and wasent paticularly impressed by the special efects (they were good, but by no means groundbreaking). I have no idea what the deal with they guy in the track suit is all about. I know nothing about either of the two main characters beyond the obvious, and the interesting characters (track suit guy, and the kid) only left me wondering if the writers had any character developement ability whatsoever.
And I kept saying to myself that Hackman should be telling the pilot where to go with obscure golf references. Bat21.. Now theres a good rescue movie.
If its online, then its publicly viewable. While some sites have legal statements saying that you cant use any of the herin information for commercial purposes, most dont.
Its not even close to a violation of copyright laws; there not pretending to be you, there not steeling your image or anything.
Its probabaly more likely that the page is maintained by a bunch of hackers, and they have better things to do then maintain it. They talk to/each other/ in there office, and the rest of the world realy dosent care.
Seriously though. When you build things, you dont build them for the lowest common denominator. Newspapers are not written for people with a grade 2 reading level, there writen so that adults can understand it.
The web will suck on a 56k modem. It dosent matter if the page is text only, it will still be slow, and thus suck.
Graphics can be good, graphics can be bad. Too much graphics can even saturate a high speed connection. But resonable levels of graphics saturate a 56k line.
Are there modem users who cant get a high speed connection because of cost, or its simply not aviable? Sure. Do I feal bad for them? A bit, sure - I think internet connectivity is important and am in fact on the Board of a Community Net that provides free dialup connectivity - but that dosent mean that desiginers should sacrafice for them. Or people with real connections should either.
Microsoft might not be in a position to do any more harm based on there monopoly (I dont agree, but even if), however they should still be punished.
Just as people who commit manslaughter (by definition, non intentionaly killing someone), there not likely to reoffend.M
But we punish them to make others think harder about there actions. And MS should be punished so that othere potentialy damaging monopolies think harder before they act?
VALinux sold mid range server gear. If you can get by with a cheep solution, then go to your local computer store and choose your parts carefully and you get as good a box as one stamped VA. If you need a box to provide 5 9 uptime, and the back end support that goes with it, then you need something from Dell or IBM or Compaq (in i386 land) or Sun.
What did a VA box give me that I couldnt get from carefully chosen parts with an expensive rack case? Nothing. Why would I buy a VA box? I have no idea.
Kernel compilaton IS necessary for a server. If you put real iron on the box, or little iron, you'll need a custom kernel. The settings for OpenBSD are reasonable and will run all but the weakest machine. However, getting it to take advantage of more memory, etc., may require some tweaks.
Im a linux guy myself, with solaris admin experience as well.. I agree with everything you say, but I take exception to that paragraph.
The goal for real world server is uptime, reliability, and configurability. And those all mean useing standards. Even if you could tweek a bit of performance out of a box, your probabaly better off leaving it alone.
Thats not to say that recompiling a kernel isnt necessary. And there are a lot of options (in the linux kernel at least). But if your sugesting that you should go into the source for tweeks, then your just opening yourself up for problems.
Well, if it was/smart/ AI you could give the machine a vested interest in the mission succeeding as well. And you could know exactly whats on the machines agenda.
Is possible, of course, that a human could be bribed or blackmailed to crash a space craft. Or that the stress of the trip would cause mental problems causing the same.
True, however as semicondouctors and optics increase in abilities to push out data, the spy gears abilities increase as well.
I think over the last decade, and prehaps for another decade or so, the rate of data increase is greater then the rate that spy gear abilities increase. But eventualy, bandwidth requirements will increase in parallel with population. And when that happens, Moors law will quickly allow spy tech to catch up.
NeXT boxes while sold to individules were generaly used in a networked enviroment.. One of the major differences beteween NeXT/OpenStep over other *nixes is is network configutation thinger.. The name of which I dont recall.. But its clear that NeXTs were desigined for a networked enviroment: wtf do you need floppies for there?
Because your not paying $1/hr to use software, your paying $1/hr to use software that someone else has set up, and is fixing when it breaks.
No, granted, microsoft is a evil entity and should be destroyed, but.NET is just network appliances built on top of open hardware.
.NET will fail because it is propriatory, not because it costs money. Sunrays will fail because there propriaatory, and total cost will be insanly expensive cause you need Sun gear everywhere.
But a paradime shift in how normal people deal with hardware and software is comming. And I for one, welcome it.
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I am not attacking the FSF. I am not saying that they are compleat tools. Im asking a resonable question: why are we paying attention to an orginization that has done nothing for us in a decade?
But what part of the GNU toolkit commonly used by groups like RedHat/Linux, Slackware/Linux, Debian/Linux[1] diddnt exist a decade ago.
IFF (that is: if, and only if) someone actualy produces a GNU/FSF distribution of linux will it make sence to use 'GNU/Linux'
My point is that RMS/FSF/GNU has, under there own roof, produced negligable amounts of usefull code in the last decade.
If you hold a gun to the head of someone to force them to turn over the rights to what there making, that dosent mean that you created it.
What has the FSF done for us today, and more importantly, what are they going to do for us tomorrow?
I parsed that as Nathan's in Millers. My first thought (being Canadian) was WTF is a Nathan's, and why would you want to put it in boiling urine? Then I realized you were talking about boiling some hotdog in Beer. Then I realized what you realy meant.
But that leads to an interesting question: What would hot dogs taste like, boiled in beer?
Why, exactly, are you assuming that the points you make are not what alians beleive is a good thing? Prehaps there exists alians that beleive that starvation, enviromental distruction and war are good things.
Of course you don't get a hard drive or CD-ROM, so it seems to me pretty expensive considering you can get an entry level PC for about $550 including monitor, hard disk, CD-ROM etc. It's hard to compare performance since the Sun system is doing the bulk of the work on the server.
You dont need either. The idea is that everything is done centeraly. Nothing to fuck up on the desktop. No hardware to fail, no software to get misconfigured. The savings is in sysadmin and helpdesk labour, not necessaraly in hardware.
To extend (or back up) your argument - currently there is basicly only one office suite in use: microsoft office. Its aviabale on windows (duh) and for Macs. Ergo, if you want to use MSOffice (and people want software, hardware is irrelevent), you use either a PC or a Mac.
ie. Sun is SOL for the desktop market
But, if/when StarOffice reaches a point where it is a contender to MSOffice, then Sun can come in to big enterprizes and replace desktop PCs and servers on long term lease with Sunrays and big servers on long term lease.
There was some movie from the 50s that detaled the lives of a pair of slaves. The 'slaves' in SW are C3P0 and R2D2... They are the two main characters and they are the characters who will be in all 3x3=9 movies...
Im not up on my military aircraft, but these things were transport helecopters, not two seater attack helecopters (or webservers).
And for the record, I diddnt realy like the movie. I diddnt get at all attached to the characters, and wasent paticularly impressed by the special efects (they were good, but by no means groundbreaking). I have no idea what the deal with they guy in the track suit is all about. I know nothing about either of the two main characters beyond the obvious, and the interesting characters (track suit guy, and the kid) only left me wondering if the writers had any character developement ability whatsoever.
And I kept saying to myself that Hackman should be telling the pilot where to go with obscure golf references. Bat21.. Now theres a good rescue movie.
Its not even close to a violation of copyright laws; there not pretending to be you, there not steeling your image or anything.
Its probabaly more likely that the page is maintained by a bunch of hackers, and they have better things to do then maintain it. They talk to /each other/ in there office, and the rest of the world realy dosent care.
Strangeness..
The web will suck on a 56k modem. It dosent matter if the page is text only, it will still be slow, and thus suck.
Graphics can be good, graphics can be bad. Too much graphics can even saturate a high speed connection. But resonable levels of graphics saturate a 56k line.
Are there modem users who cant get a high speed connection because of cost, or its simply not aviable? Sure. Do I feal bad for them? A bit, sure - I think internet connectivity is important and am in fact on the Board of a Community Net that provides free dialup connectivity - but that dosent mean that desiginers should sacrafice for them. Or people with real connections should either.
While Im sure MSFT influences that index, its more then just ine stock.
Just as people who commit manslaughter (by definition, non intentionaly killing someone), there not likely to reoffend.M
But we punish them to make others think harder about there actions. And MS should be punished so that othere potentialy damaging monopolies think harder before they act?
What did a VA box give me that I couldnt get from carefully chosen parts with an expensive rack case? Nothing. Why would I buy a VA box? I have no idea.
Im a linux guy myself, with solaris admin experience as well.. I agree with everything you say, but I take exception to that paragraph.
The goal for real world server is uptime, reliability, and configurability. And those all mean useing standards. Even if you could tweek a bit of performance out of a box, your probabaly better off leaving it alone.
Thats not to say that recompiling a kernel isnt necessary. And there are a lot of options (in the linux kernel at least). But if your sugesting that you should go into the source for tweeks, then your just opening yourself up for problems.
Is possible, of course, that a human could be bribed or blackmailed to crash a space craft. Or that the stress of the trip would cause mental problems causing the same.
Are you insane? Amercian quarters are worth.. what? Two or three Canadian dolars. At least.
I think over the last decade, and prehaps for another decade or so, the rate of data increase is greater then the rate that spy gear abilities increase. But eventualy, bandwidth requirements will increase in parallel with population. And when that happens, Moors law will quickly allow spy tech to catch up.
Unique, for sure. Since X hadent realy realy taken hold at that point, Netinfo is more of a divergence from stock *nix then anything else..
NeXT boxes while sold to individules were generaly used in a networked enviroment.. One of the major differences beteween NeXT/OpenStep over other *nixes is is network configutation thinger.. The name of which I dont recall.. But its clear that NeXTs were desigined for a networked enviroment: wtf do you need floppies for there?
No, granted, microsoft is a evil entity and should be destroyed, but .NET is just network appliances built on top of open hardware.
But a paradime shift in how normal people deal with hardware and software is comming. And I for one, welcome it.