You should google before doing an ask slashdot question. This question is however a good question for us all. I think dennies uses linux based pos units... burlington coat factory switched everything to linux... i think including the pos units... Perhaps a google search, or just calling those companies up and asking who supplied their pos systems would be a good start.
If you have been looking around recently... everybody does that.... inktomi, ?infosearch?, the whole lot of them... what google has over all of them is up to date content
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The results on altavista still have not gotten better... they always seem to be upwards of six months old... where google seems to be within the month in most cases... hell...I see google's bot hit my personal webserver about every two to three weeks. I have not seen altavista's bot in a very very very long time..
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I've noticed that some frame buffers on laptops tend to retain images from other modes in memory till you go into that mode. So if I like crash my laptop looking at a pr0n site, reboot, when X starts, I will see what I saw till X redraws the screen... normally about half a second....
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I was under the impression hp openmail/samsung contact was a dead product. It was posted on slashdot like two years ago that samsung was discontinuing development right after they finished buying it from HP.
Damn, I just checked the pricing, for 5 mail boxes, 5 user cals, its like 500 bucks... I'd get Backoffice Server instead........ It only costs what, 550?
Any changes made to the mail, such as marking for deletion and not deleting, or AVG adding the little "Verified clean by AVG" or whatever it says will cause the email to be duplicated into that users part of the exchange store. To the Admin consoles for Exchange, yes, it will say the mailbox is larger, but it really is not... until that email is changed. Once it is chagned from what was sent out (this does not include opening the email.).
Your usage may be fixed by checking your IMC Settings and running an offline defrag of the private store. It is well documented that in Exchange 5.5, a 1 meg email receieved by the IMC can cause the private store to jump to 1 gig. The DB Archetecture Sucks, but what the software does with the db blows just about everything else out of the water.... for now.
Sounds like an office of the United Way I have worked with.... We had them on a 2B Channel ISDN line after bluestar went out of business, and 95% of the traffic was email, and some russian chick who demanded she be able to listen to russian radio online. They were running exchange though. Even being a linux advocate, until somebody writes a good email storage/access system such as exchange, ms will still have an edge in the market.
In exchange, if one person sends everybody in the company on the exchange server a 20 meg email, the usage of the store is only 20 megs. The feature of being able to access the same account at the same time w/o locks and use the different connections (outlook, imap via moz, webmail) to maniuplate the mailbox at the same time is VERY sweet.
The quota size depends on the industry/department. People who are IT people should not be held to a email quota because most likey they are getting a few hundred emails a day, some large, some small... lots of mailing list traffic, and the rejects for everybody else. Now, this normally wont blow the cap, but it would be nice to forward joe blow's 10 failed emails of 1 meg each to him at one time.
The last two companies I worked at we more or less had no limit on the email size.... I asked employees to keep their mailbox size usage (exchange) to a reasonable amount... unreasonable would be storing porn in your exchange store... which I have had people do.... I'm nice about it though.... At one point Management decided we needed a limit on imcomming email size just to limit the sizes of the emails customers were sending in. We limited it at that point to 50 megs.... but we kept a email address w/o a incomming quota so customers could send very very very large things to us.
One of the major problems with frees/wan is the documentation. "Oh, you might be able to do this, we dont know.." When it has been posted to the mailing lists, and discussed "oh, Here is how you do it".
I was going to use your fork, but I lost my job.:( Perhaps I should write a patch that allows for more then one type of network interface so it is easier to sue ospf..... and changing the internal routing table so its more kind to other things such as routing protocols.
Thats a question I really can't answer. I should have thought about it many months ago when I found routing bugs in frees/wan internal routing table.... when they refused to hear anything about it and claimed it must have been a configuration error..... but I've been using frees/wan for years... since frees/wan 1.3 i think..... I know it inside and out. Perhaps it is time to fork... or wait till FreeS/WAN 2, and fork it. You are right.... it is time to fork it.
In all honesty, Win2k's IPSec impmentation sucks. It dosen't seem to be able to keep track of time... and it forgets esp tunnels like crazy. Linux is already being used quite a bit for the hidden thins in business. The firewalls.. The proxy servers, the VPN Routers. Linux makes a very good box to sit in the corner w/o a monitor, and run a few hundred ipsec tunnels with lets say OSPF on top of it all.
Many of the non-us distribuions ship with ipsec, but the big problem is creating some very easy way that can allow elmer fud to create a host to host or a subnet to host or a subnet to subnet ipsec tunnel in under 10 minutes. Preferably 2 minutes.
What is going to start shifting many businesses to linux is seeing applications such as AutoCAD run on linux. Seeing APIs for controling PLCs on factory floors. If we are able to woo the design and engineering firms to linux.... we will have a powerful foothold on the market.
somewhat, but from what I read bout a week and a half ago... the ipsec impmentation that they are putting in does not yet support ipv4 transport.... ie is useless unless you have hosts fully using ipv6 on both sides of the tunnel. Keep in mind, its not frees/wan, its from the linux ipv6 project.
With the atitude that the frees/wan project maintains, we will never see freeswan merged with mainstream kernel... hell... they still refuse to take patches from us citiziens and residents (that includes linus)
The guy installed it not knowing he was using a computer in vmware... when he rebooted it... he freaked realising he was really in linux... he got his things then left quickly... from what I found, the stuff was complete spyware. Not Cool. I called up road runner to complain, but they hung up on me six times.
On a second thought, buy two channel banks from adtran, they will take the voice channels to IP, then you can kick it over a wireless link. this will cost like 1000 usd.
Call your system vendor. They will most likely tell you there is nothing that can be done:).
I looked at some voip quotes recently, one of the systems required lisences to be bought to use the phones over IP. Something like Four thousand for 10 phones. I think avaya has a module you can put in to your rack, and plug into your switch (its designed to also do power-over-ethernet injection. Be aware, the phones are going to cost you an arm and a leg.
I agree with you, but the majority of companies (were talking sub 100 employees) dont have proper HR deparments.
I understand your view, and I too have run into overzelus admins. I am not the judge, jury, or executioner. But view me as an officer of the court. If I see evidence that your doing something wrong, Its going to be brought up with your supervisors. Most employers don't even care about policy, they just want their shit to work. A person in MIS in this state(northcarolina), esp. now risks rocking the boat even discussing policy. Things for MIS are not pretty out there.
At least were not talking about being an IRC admin... They are the Judge, Jury, and typer of the G-Line.:)
I'm sorry if I somehow gave people that I just open people's mailboxes for the hell of it. Its not even worht the time or effort to see the porn spam, and the thousands of one liner emails.
I wrote my post as In my last two jobs, I was MIS. I was the dude.
Re: establishing views, thats my opinion. Your STUPID if you expect your employer to NOT monitor your activites. Most companies that I have worked with have policies that all electronic communications generated from the office are property of the company, where in the company has exclusive rights to the material.
Besides, most smaller companies (atleast here in north carolina, don't have a written policy re: email.) If you are the dude, what you says goes.
As for myself being fired. Most likely true. I worked for a failing outsourced IT firm They knew I was not going to let myself be screwed by them, so they took preemptive action, and canned me.... Offically because I deleted my email, ofcorse, they trashed the server with my mailbox on it the same night.
In most industries where I have been, you have no choice. In most companies, there are large communications gaps in projects. A persons old emails can help the others get the project going. Personally, I don't read peoples emails once they are gone, but i would archive the mail box, and if there is anything needed, i would then open it. I'm not about to go to pry into anybody's personal life. There is a reason I encourage coworkers to clean out their mail box though.
Why do you think I'm a loon? Because I have a sense of Ethics and what is right? Because I know from experence that paranoid employees dont produce? The idea is to have your employees as comfortable as possible, otherwise, your asking for trouble.
I have run into simular cases. I am a BOFH, but I have perticular feelings regarding email. Most understanding bosses will understand, and know that they are going to have to write their wrong. I have always held a firm stance regarding service and email. Email has always been something that I don't fuck with. By don't fuck with, I mean, I run mail servers, but I don't go reading people email. Now, thats under normal cases, but I have always been willing to crack open their mailboxes at the first hint of something bad. I respect people's mail boxes, but if they cross the line, the line of only doing good, and goto bad, their mailbox is mine. The same with former employees. I encourage people to clean their mailboxes before leaving a company, I know I do before negotiations, I got fired for doing that a few weeks ago. Well, back to the subject. Once an employee has left the company, I have no problem with cracking open their mailbox, if they had something personal in there, thats their mistake.
These sorts of things are a very fine line. The best thing is to establish your view of things up front when getting the job, but emphasize that if the person is misusing, cheating, lieing, etc. i.e. doing anything bad, their mail is open for review.
I have found that letting your coworkers know your stance on these things can be beneficial to the IT BOFH or BAFH. They will feel more comfortable with you if they are honest. Remember, IT fixes the problems before they are found, past that, IT is damage control.
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You should google before doing an ask slashdot question. This question is however a good question for us all. I think dennies uses linux based pos units... burlington coat factory switched everything to linux... i think including the pos units... Perhaps a google search, or just calling those companies up and asking who supplied their pos systems would be a good start.
If you have been looking around recently... everybody does that.... inktomi, ?infosearch?, the whole lot of them... what google has over all of them is up to date content
The results on altavista still have not gotten better... they always seem to be upwards of six months old... where google seems to be within the month in most cases... hell...I see google's bot hit my personal webserver about every two to three weeks. I have not seen altavista's bot in a very very very long time..
Goto their website and punch in the numbers.
I've noticed that some frame buffers on laptops tend to retain images from other modes in memory till you go into that mode. So if I like crash my laptop looking at a pr0n site, reboot, when X starts, I will see what I saw till X redraws the screen... normally about half a second....
I was under the impression hp openmail/samsung contact was a dead product. It was posted on slashdot like two years ago that samsung was discontinuing development right after they finished buying it from HP.
Damn, I just checked the pricing, for 5 mail boxes, 5 user cals, its like 500 bucks... I'd get Backoffice Server instead........ It only costs what, 550?
Any changes made to the mail, such as marking for deletion and not deleting, or AVG adding the little "Verified clean by AVG" or whatever it says will cause the email to be duplicated into that users part of the exchange store. To the Admin consoles for Exchange, yes, it will say the mailbox is larger, but it really is not... until that email is changed. Once it is chagned from what was sent out (this does not include opening the email.).
Your usage may be fixed by checking your IMC Settings and running an offline defrag of the private store. It is well documented that in Exchange 5.5, a 1 meg email receieved by the IMC can cause the private store to jump to 1 gig. The DB Archetecture Sucks, but what the software does with the db blows just about everything else out of the water.... for now.
Sounds like an office of the United Way I have worked with.... We had them on a 2B Channel ISDN line after bluestar went out of business, and 95% of the traffic was email, and some russian chick who demanded she be able to listen to russian radio online. They were running exchange though. Even being a linux advocate, until somebody writes a good email storage/access system such as exchange, ms will still have an edge in the market.
In exchange, if one person sends everybody in the company on the exchange server a 20 meg email, the usage of the store is only 20 megs. The feature of being able to access the same account at the same time w/o locks and use the different connections (outlook, imap via moz, webmail) to maniuplate the mailbox at the same time is VERY sweet.
The quota size depends on the industry/department. People who are IT people should not be held to a email quota because most likey they are getting a few hundred emails a day, some large, some small... lots of mailing list traffic, and the rejects for everybody else. Now, this normally wont blow the cap, but it would be nice to forward joe blow's 10 failed emails of 1 meg each to him at one time.
The last two companies I worked at we more or less had no limit on the email size.... I asked employees to keep their mailbox size usage (exchange) to a reasonable amount... unreasonable would be storing porn in your exchange store... which I have had people do.... I'm nice about it though.... At one point Management decided we needed a limit on imcomming email size just to limit the sizes of the emails customers were sending in. We limited it at that point to 50 megs.... but we kept a email address w/o a incomming quota so customers could send very very very large things to us.
Hi, I eat coffee....
Have you tried openoffice?
One of the major problems with frees/wan is the documentation. "Oh, you might be able to do this, we dont know.." When it has been posted to the mailing lists, and discussed "oh, Here is how you do it".
:( Perhaps I should write a patch that allows for more then one type of network interface so it is easier to sue ospf..... and changing the internal routing table so its more kind to other things such as routing protocols.
I was going to use your fork, but I lost my job.
Thats a question I really can't answer. I should have thought about it many months ago when I found routing bugs in frees/wan internal routing table.... when they refused to hear anything about it and claimed it must have been a configuration error..... but I've been using frees/wan for years... since frees/wan 1.3 i think..... I know it inside and out. Perhaps it is time to fork... or wait till FreeS/WAN 2, and fork it. You are right.... it is time to fork it.
Since when? If the patches are being supplied by the linux ipv6 people then wouldnt it be their project? i'd think so?
In all honesty, Win2k's IPSec impmentation sucks. It dosen't seem to be able to keep track of time... and it forgets esp tunnels like crazy. Linux is already being used quite a bit for the hidden thins in business. The firewalls.. The proxy servers, the VPN Routers. Linux makes a very good box to sit in the corner w/o a monitor, and run a few hundred ipsec tunnels with lets say OSPF on top of it all.
Many of the non-us distribuions ship with ipsec, but the big problem is creating some very easy way that can allow elmer fud to create a host to host or a subnet to host or a subnet to subnet ipsec tunnel in under 10 minutes. Preferably 2 minutes.
What is going to start shifting many businesses to linux is seeing applications such as AutoCAD run on linux. Seeing APIs for controling PLCs on factory floors. If we are able to woo the design and engineering firms to linux.... we will have a powerful foothold on the market.
somewhat, but from what I read bout a week and a half ago... the ipsec impmentation that they are putting in does not yet support ipv4 transport.... ie is useless unless you have hosts fully using ipv6 on both sides of the tunnel. Keep in mind, its not frees/wan, its from the linux ipv6 project.
With the atitude that the frees/wan project maintains, we will never see freeswan merged with mainstream kernel... hell... they still refuse to take patches from us citiziens and residents (that includes linus)
The guy installed it not knowing he was using a computer in vmware... when he rebooted it... he freaked realising he was really in linux... he got his things then left quickly... from what I found, the stuff was complete spyware. Not Cool. I called up road runner to complain, but they hung up on me six times.
On a second thought, buy two channel banks from adtran, they will take the voice channels to IP, then you can kick it over a wireless link.
this will cost like 1000 usd.
normally, a channel bank will go for 400-600.
Call your system vendor. They will most likely tell you there is nothing that can be done :).
I looked at some voip quotes recently, one of the systems required lisences to be bought to use the phones over IP. Something like Four thousand for 10 phones. I think avaya has a module you can put in to your rack, and plug into your switch (its designed to also do power-over-ethernet injection. Be aware, the phones are going to cost you an arm and a leg.
I agree with you, but the majority of companies (were talking sub 100 employees) dont have proper HR deparments.
:)
I understand your view, and I too have run into overzelus admins. I am not the judge, jury, or executioner. But view me as an officer of the court. If I see evidence that your doing something wrong, Its going to be brought up with your supervisors. Most employers don't even care about policy, they just want their shit to work. A person in MIS in this state(northcarolina), esp. now risks rocking the boat even discussing policy. Things for MIS are not pretty out there.
At least were not talking about being an IRC admin... They are the Judge, Jury, and typer of the G-Line.
I'm sorry if I somehow gave people that I just open people's mailboxes for the hell of it. Its not even worht the time or effort to see the porn spam, and the thousands of one liner emails.
I wrote my post as In my last two jobs, I was MIS. I was the dude.
Re: establishing views, thats my opinion. Your STUPID if you expect your employer to NOT monitor your activites. Most companies that I have worked with have policies that all electronic communications generated from the office are property of the company, where in the company has exclusive rights to the material.
Besides, most smaller companies (atleast here in north carolina, don't have a written policy re: email.) If you are the dude, what you says goes.
As for myself being fired. Most likely true. I worked for a failing outsourced IT firm They knew I was not going to let myself be screwed by them, so they took preemptive action, and canned me.... Offically because I deleted my email, ofcorse, they trashed the server with my mailbox on it the same night.
Thank you for your rant.
In most industries where I have been, you have no choice. In most companies, there are large communications gaps in projects. A persons old emails can help the others get the project going. Personally, I don't read peoples emails once they are gone, but i would archive the mail box, and if there is anything needed, i would then open it. I'm not about to go to pry into anybody's personal life. There is a reason I encourage coworkers to clean out their mail box though.
Why do you think I'm a loon? Because I have a sense of Ethics and what is right? Because I know from experence that paranoid employees dont produce? The idea is to have your employees as comfortable as possible, otherwise, your asking for trouble.
I have run into simular cases. I am a BOFH, but I have perticular feelings regarding email. Most understanding bosses will understand, and know that they are going to have to write their wrong. I have always held a firm stance regarding service and email. Email has always been something that I don't fuck with. By don't fuck with, I mean, I run mail servers, but I don't go reading people email. Now, thats under normal cases, but I have always been willing to crack open their mailboxes at the first hint of something bad. I respect people's mail boxes, but if they cross the line, the line of only doing good, and goto bad, their mailbox is mine. The same with former employees. I encourage people to clean their mailboxes before leaving a company, I know I do before negotiations, I got fired for doing that a few weeks ago. Well, back to the subject. Once an employee has left the company, I have no problem with cracking open their mailbox, if they had something personal in there, thats their mistake.
These sorts of things are a very fine line. The best thing is to establish your view of things up front when getting the job, but emphasize that if the person is misusing, cheating, lieing, etc. i.e. doing anything bad, their mail is open for review.
I have found that letting your coworkers know your stance on these things can be beneficial to the IT BOFH or BAFH. They will feel more comfortable with you if they are honest. Remember, IT fixes the problems before they are found, past that, IT is damage control.
-LW looking for a job. lw@lwolenczak.net
That one reminds me of my high school latin class....
*falls out of his chair laughing his ass off*