Remember kids, if a strange man starts touching you inappropriately, either FLY AWAY and start screaming or teleport to a random location on the grid!... This is serious business.
Virtual rape is a heinous crime- it's not like you can just quit or teleport or fly away when someone starts....
oh wait. Yeah you can.
NOTE: This is an insult to anyone who's ever dealt with "IRL" rape- you know, where they can't quit. This is such bullshit. Someone needs to slap the shit out of whomever's leading this rally.
So, 2007 really IS the year of Linux on the Desktop? Actually, 2007 is year of the Pig (or boar). I'm not sure where Linux Desktop falls on the 12-year zodiac cycle.
Mark my words. The turning point has been reached. Linux popularity has reached critical mass. Microsoft is in trouble serious trouble.
Watch as it spreads like Firefox from this point forward. One major vendor is now pre-loading linux and it's gaining some fringe popularity with the masses.
Did you have the same opinion in 2000 when Mac OS X came out?- that's about where Ubuntu is now. I think Dell is going to position ubuntu as the *mac* of PC's- try to follow me, here. They need a simple, beautiful operating system for peoples' wives and daughters to use that has all the functionality necessary and 'don't give them no lip. I doubt it's going to largely impact Windows' market-share. However, I would expect Microsoft to release a more attractive, minimalist Windows in the future to try to attack this fold.
What's really happening is operating systems are becoming less important as computers become web machines. This should make things interesting- the greatest platforms will be those that can take advantage of PC power while still being fully web-enabled- things like silverlight could be a very important step in this direction.
No X11 runs indepently on top of whatever Unix-type kernel you are running. It's more like the way Windows 3.1 runs on top of MS-DOS than anything else.
This can be easily proven by installing a freenix on a machine but not installing X11 at all. With Linux or a BSD, that is pretty easily done.
Now, if you're running a fancy schmancy accelerated graphics card, it's likely that the driver level stuff is a loadable kernel module, or hard-coded into the kernel. But that's driver stuff, not GUI application layer stuff.
I was referring to Windows' desktop system as a comparison to X- I know X is not kernel-space, but Windows' actual desktop system is.
The desktop is not userspace in Windows, anyway- it's kernel-space.
That is not true. The Windows kernel is a hybrid kernel, while Linux is a monolithic kernel. The latter is more massive.
I cannot imagine that the whole Windows desktop is loaded onto a hybrid kernel in kernel space. It would be silly to do so. Explorer is not- that's the majority of what's loading on boot-up- but that would be comparable to X running Gnome or KDE- the portion of the system that X comprises of is in kernel space, I believe.
Actually, my Vista boot goes faster than my Ubuntu boot
Several users of both systems (including my own experience) tends to show that Windows comes up with a desktop earlier than Linux. But once there the disk is still trashing for some time. Whereas on Linux, once you're logger, you're logged and everything is ready to run.
The whole stuff is build on windows to give you the impression that it is faster. Actually, if you have 700 mb of memory or more, Windows Vista will boot far faster. The desktop is not userspace in Windows, anyway- it's kernel-space. This is a completely valid point. If your system is running with high RAM and a decent enough graphics card (low end DX9 card at least), then it'll boot up and be responsive crazy fast- even on a middle-end system- and if you have flash in your system- it's no contest. Linux has always been behind in speed-hacks, this is nothing new.
If you want to say that linux boots faster because its desktop system is a massive, bloated, user-space mess and its *technically* usable once the console is up- you should compare it to Windows PE or DOS. Users care about when their desktop is up.
So no- Wrong, wrong, wrong. It's not built to give you that *impression* - it's a completely different OS design that happens to be faster, at this point.
This article is full of fuming anger and childish insults. This is a poor excuse for journalism. I'll wait until a real reporter, expert, or analyst writes about this to form an opinion.
The world of tech journalism is full of wild fanboys- his "wild march to Linux" is far more underlined by a march to Mac, and moreso even to XP. I question this guy's motives.
The LEADER is the one that the others FOLLOW. That definition fits OSX quite nicely. Like OSX's new multiple desktops? The resolution independence? The "active desktop" for animated backgrounds? Maybe their borrowed kernel or interface?
It looks like Wine (Codeweaver) for MacOS X 10.4 Intel-PC.
Prey is NOT a DX 10 game but a DX 9 game which works more or less okay in WineHQ/CW. Seconded. We have a hard enough time working with Direct X 10 as a professional game studio, BS someone "reverse engineered" it.:P
'' Why run a web-app on a meager embedded system? Why not just run applications that are designed around the system's form and constraints and use minimal overhead? ''
Who says the iPhone is a "meager embedded system"? Dual ARM processors, each in my experience about as powerful as an 800 MHz P4, 8 GB harddisk space including about half a GB for the OS, running the worlds leading OS. That is not "meager". The World != San Fransisco
Are you sure you're not thinking of SymbianOS? Maybe Windows?
Microsoft is about to get their ass handed to them again and they know it. Consumer device or not, gimmick or not, the iPhone is already having a huge impact on the moble market - AND IT'S NOT EVEN OUT YET!!!
Next up: "One time software giant Microsoft files suit against Apple, Inc. for monopolizing the mobile business device market"... well, it wouldn't be the first time someone snatched the pretzels out of Ballmer's mouth.
ewwww... I just grossed myself out.
Yes, the Consumer Market. If you see them create a Zune Phone, that will be competition. They already have a decent marketshare in smartphones- Apple is not the 800 lbs. gorilla, in this case. They still only have the Apple fanboys and general enthusiasts sold at this point. It's about as relevant to business as an iPod and a smartphone taped together.
You're suffering severe brain damage if you can't see that one coming.
What would be a killer-cellphone for me? One on which I can read GMail, use eBay, use my favorite Web 2.0 apps. "Web 2.0" may sounds buzzwordish to you, but look at the most frequented website. This is what consumer wants. And this is exactly what more and more cellphones are going to give them.
The nice thing with Webapps is that as sucky as you may find them, they're actually not that demanding on the client-side (your cellphone's browser). And, best of all, once Google finds a nice optimization for, say, Google Spreadsheet... There's no patching needed. Nada. Zilch. You open your cellphone's browser and it just works.
Using "Office Mobile designed for MOBILE PHONES" [sic] will NOT be an interesting option once you've got good client/server Webapps.
The webapps are a relatively recent phenomenon and it already has lots and lots of momentum: they'll keep getting better and better and lighter and lighter. Not too mention that I've never seen the cellphones getting less and less powerful. So the "performances" problem will turn in favor of the Webapps.
There are companies like Google, Sun and Apple that do not want the world to go the "all MS way", from the desktop to the mobile phone.
I envision a huge fight and, somehow, I think MS will have a hard time fighting Google, Sun, IBM, Nokia, Apple, etc. Moreover all the Webapps developers SHALL target the cellphone browsers.
The demand for a good AJAX compatible browser on a cellphone is there and companies are coming with answers.
It will take more to defeat that trend than saying: "but Office Mobile is designed for MOBILE PHONES".
Whoops, Reality Strikes!- you tech evangelist. 3g is not available in most of the country, at this point. You know, the part people would be traveling through.
You're talking about a world a few years in the future from now- will business leaders be willing to pay $600 a unit for this world, cross their fingers, and hope it exists? No- businesses tend to be very conservative. It's the consumers that can afford to be evangelists. We're talking about a product coming out in the immediate future, not the gray, mysterious realm of possibility. Futurism is not a viable business strategy.
Why would you not run a local application on a moving computer with an unstable connection? Why would you want to depend on having 3g to simply read a document when you could instead open it up for a quick read or edit on a local application? It's just plain practical. Why would you run a local application in AJAX when you could be running in the much faster.NET or Cocoa API's? Because Apple isn't aiming at the business market?... they're not, by the way.
As it stands, google docs and spreadsheets is the best of such web applications, and it's still a pretty meager offering. Advice: take some valium and relax, Microsoft will maintain the business/smart-phone market this time around until 3g+ coverage is complete. If Apple was planning an office suite for it, they'd have said it by now. And yes, my win-98 era desktop is more powerful than the iPhone. Microsoft is still right. Perhaps FUTURE iPHONE will conquer the business smart phone market. I wouldn't put my money on it just yet, though.
It's a fucking phone. You are not going to need a full office suit on it. Why run a web-app on a meager embedded system? Why not just run applications that are designed around the system's form and constraints and use minimal overhead?
I might need to edit a powerpoint presentation or a word document or something- hell, there's all sorts of random business situations that arise during travel that your company might like you to address. They don't give you a phone so you can be more social, after all.
Doesn't this just make Microsoft right about this little statement? They never said the iPhone was bad or wrong- just that it was irrelevant to business. It's a consumer-market device. It's just plain true. Deal with it!
web office apps only make sense on actual PC's with solid connections.
How did you manage to miss all the hoopla about offline app support in Firefox 3.0? Because I have a job. A job that doesn't involve web development. Also, I'm not really a F/OSS enthusiast... at all.
And guess what, someone might even create a web app that is targeted at mobile devices. An office suite? I'd like to see it. Google docs runs like crap on my old win98-era PC, I'd really like to see them make an office web app run well on a tiny little machine like the iPhone. Wait... why are we not using local applications that take advantage of the platform's little power? Is it so we can 'hack' the iPhone to make it useful?
I have a better idea. Just buy something useful- that's meant to be productive... it might not even cost over half a grand.
Are you suggesting running a web-based AJAX office application on a phone instead of a native mobile application?
Why run something bloated when you can run something bloated on web page running off a web browser inside a tiny mobile phone... web office apps only make sense on actual PC's with solid connections.
Office Mobile is designed for MOBILE PHONES it is optimized for MOBILE PHONES- I couldn't imagine running web applications on a cell phone- that's so counter-intuitive. What would happen if you went through a tunnel on at rain or something? What if you were on a plane?
You need local office apps that play nice with your business infrastructure, so that they're always available and are not tied to a web connection. Microsoft is correct, here.
It doesn't even matter, because a it would be retarded for a business to give its employees something like an iPhone. It's designed for doing everything BUT working. Maybe if you're working for a magazine that writes movie, tv, or music reviews...
Here's the catch, because you obviously don't know much about law, particularly when it comes to patent, trademark and copyright law.
Much of the law is based on precedent, which means that prior decisions in similar court cases influence or completely decide the outcome of current cases. The biggest problem with this kind of corporate behavior is that it sets a precedent. Microsoft can now demonstrate based on these two *HUGE* deals, that these companies acknowledge that Linux infringes on Microsoft's patents. Whether it *actually* does or not is not the issue. The precedent is now set. Novell and Samsung, with their assumed vast and knowledgeable legal team has gone over these agreements, and SIGNED them, affirming that without these agreements, they would be subject to expensive and lengthy legal battles.
From the corporate perspective, I can see why they've done it. Nobody wants another IBM vs. SCO battle, which is what this would be if they were to refuse these agreements. Except that this kind of case you wouldn't be dealing with a relatively small corporation like SCO, you would be facing off against a MULTI-BILLION dollar corporation with one of the best legal teams in the world that money can buy. From that perspective, the obvious answer is "Sign the agreement and be done with it".
I don't condone this behavior, I'm a firm believer that if your producing an honest product, you should be safe from big corporations threatening legal action against you. I think Microsoft should have some kind of basis for making the claims that they make. If Linux infringes their patents, come now, out with it. Show us your evidence, patent numbers, specific code. These corporations have obviously been given a quiet ultimatum... sign... or fight us.
Thats my 2 cents worth anyways. And how does this hurt Samsung? It seems to be a careful move on their part.
It sure is a mystery why they don't ask Slashdot before making legal decisions.
Do you guys actually believe that Samsung's no-doubt massive legal team didn't comb over this agreement and consider it necessary and relevant?
Why does everyone assume that companies just *do* things that will ruin everyone, everything, and allow another company victory?
If it seems like Samsung is forfeiting profit, you're simply looking at it wrong. The kind of oversight people are making on this thread about the purpose of this deal would result in the company literally getting sued by their shareholders.
In short, Samsung did this because it was cheaper or convenient for them, and would not cost them any sales or necessary flexibility.
Stop acting like open source is so inflexible and fragile! This is Novell and Samsung's business, not the entire OSS community's.
I would be really worried if I were that kid. If he's in any country with an extradition treaty, I'm pretty sure he'll get nailed by the authorities. Our post 9/11-government is pretty sensitive to electronic criminals like this.
I know being a l33t h4x0r is all about bragging about your crap, but honestly-- even claiming to have done this is very dangerous if you're not in the third world.
Only a tinfoil-hat-wearing free software zealot would wonder about an agenda of slowing the OLPC project and the spread of open source in general.
Are you a shill, or just incredibly stupid and/or naive?
Microsoft has stated repeatedly that Open Source is the enemy and in so many words. If you missed that, you are simply not informed enough to be qualified to contribute to this discussion.
Now, Microsoft is saying that they are prepared to work with Open Source. But based on Microsoft's past record of falsehood, fraud, abuse of their monopoly position, price fixing, illegal dumping and bundling, and the laundry list of other complaints, you would have to be some kind of idiot to trust them now.
If they're offering a superior product that will give their workforce more competitive range than the completely wacky proprietary lock-in of the 're-thought' sugar interface for their kids, it might be worth it.
At least they'll learn to use an OS that people actually use... that supports software that people actually use...
well, outside of what people *supposedly* run on places like/.
If Open Source threatens their marketshare, it's not even immoral for them to compete with it. End of story.
I don't see Ubuntu doing anything that Mandriva (or Mandrake) wasn't doing 3 years ago.
Windows Migration Assistant? I tried to use Ubuntu to bail out a system with a messed up bootloader. The new installer is a joke. It only claims to have that functionality, everything is still just as *unfinished* as it was 3 years ago. It even used auto-update to ice my nvidia drivers that I'd used Restricted Drivers Manager to install with some sort of dummy package. Yeah. They're really moving forward...
"Aw shit I gots no $. A-rabs and Commies stole my $. Ken git no mo donutz...." You're an idiot. Our purchasing parity is still massively larger than China or Russia. Our industries are largely outsourced, so those of us with white collar jobs are still seeing massive profits. We use world bank to ride the growth profits of many developing nations, anyway. Our economy cycles. We go in and out of trade gaps and debt without suffering major costs to our luxury goods.
We still have a lot more carry-around cash. If things continued this way for the next couple decades, Russia and China might have comparable purchasing parity and potential, but the reality is that our economy will cycle within 5 years. Our debt fluctuates depending on administration, and this administration is 'starving the beast'- because they're neocons, like Reagan. Those of us who don't live in dog-shit ex-communist countries can have a broke government yet still have largely profitable industries. Countries like China wouldn't buy all our debt if they didn't depend on our nation rising out of it very quickly when this administration is ousted- they're extremely dependent on us. Enjoy all our outsourced pollution.:)
Translation: Watch out for wild dogs, and make sure you check your hovel for rodents. Despite your horrible misinterpretation of the world market, which cycles through this every decade, we're still way richer. So I can buy plenty of donuts, thank you. You can gloat when you're not living in east europe, the asshole of the world.
Have you checked the US balance of payments lately?
Russiaactually has lots of your $$$$ from selling you lots of this stinky stuff.
China lots of your $$$$ from selling you most of everything else.
Living off your credit card is certainly an unusual view of being rich. You should Google to see where the money actually is - ie not in your pocket.
You are actually broke, have an unpopular president and have lost a war n Afghanistan (Oh, and Iraq). Much indeed as was the USSR before it fell apart.
Fatass, or should I call you "Cho Seung-Hui," you truly are truly a credit to yr Krispy Kreme eating compatriots.
BOOM! HEADSHOT! BOOM! HEADSHOT PSHEW PSHEW! - you are a no less that a man, or at least a 13 year old of true taste. Cho Seung-Hui was from South Korea. Quick googling, I found this common phrase "The US has the largest and most technologically powerful economy in the world..." Is this even a competition? I'll line it up, anyway.
Let's see... Russian GDP... $733 billion
Not bad!
US GDP... $13.22 trillion
Oh, whoops. You lose.:(...oh.. exports, let's see...
Russia: $317.6 billion
China: $974 billion
US: $1.869 trillion
Our debt goes up and down depending on whether we have democrats or republicans in office- right now, we have republicans. I think the debt will go away when we elect a new administration, but thanks for the concern. For being in such a rough spot, we sure seem to be doing pretty well, especially compared to that decrepit junkyard you call home. The fact that someone living in dogshit, east europe knows about things like 'Krispy Kreme' is a sign that we're still pretty influential. Sorry, pal. Keep trying.
No, you lost the Cold War when you kept imaging that you'd won the Cold War in face of all the evidence.
Dominating the world software industry with sales of 244 units? Wow! Clear thinking buddy.
Time to shift yr fat ass from Fox News and look outside yr window, Cho Seung-Hui. All the evidence? What does Russia even do anymore- are there any large legitimate businesses there? I can't think of any that I interact with. Sometimes I see clothing that's been 'made in Russia'.
Yes, 244 units internationally. You have excellent reading skills. Do you guys even have schools over there- Or has your government sold them all to buy gold-plated jets?
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Remember kids, if a strange man starts touching you inappropriately, either FLY AWAY and start screaming or teleport to a random location on the grid!... This is serious business.
Virtual rape is a heinous crime- it's not like you can just quit or teleport or fly away when someone starts....
oh wait. Yeah you can.
NOTE: This is an insult to anyone who's ever dealt with "IRL" rape- you know, where they can't quit. This is such bullshit. Someone needs to slap the shit out of whomever's leading this rally.
Watch as it spreads like Firefox from this point forward. One major vendor is now pre-loading linux and it's gaining some fringe popularity with the masses.
Did you have the same opinion in 2000 when Mac OS X came out?- that's about where Ubuntu is now. I think Dell is going to position ubuntu as the *mac* of PC's- try to follow me, here. They need a simple, beautiful operating system for peoples' wives and daughters to use that has all the functionality necessary and 'don't give them no lip. I doubt it's going to largely impact Windows' market-share. However, I would expect Microsoft to release a more attractive, minimalist Windows in the future to try to attack this fold.
What's really happening is operating systems are becoming less important as computers become web machines. This should make things interesting- the greatest platforms will be those that can take advantage of PC power while still being fully web-enabled- things like silverlight could be a very important step in this direction.
Explorer is in user mode. The Window Manager is in kernel mode. See for yourself.
This can be easily proven by installing a freenix on a machine but not installing X11 at all. With Linux or a BSD, that is pretty easily done.
Now, if you're running a fancy schmancy accelerated graphics card, it's likely that the driver level stuff is a loadable kernel module, or hard-coded into the kernel. But that's driver stuff, not GUI application layer stuff.
I was referring to Windows' desktop system as a comparison to X- I know X is not kernel-space, but Windows' actual desktop system is.
That is not true. The Windows kernel is a hybrid kernel, while Linux is a monolithic kernel. The latter is more massive.
I cannot imagine that the whole Windows desktop is loaded onto a hybrid kernel in kernel space. It would be silly to do so. Explorer is not- that's the majority of what's loading on boot-up- but that would be comparable to X running Gnome or KDE- the portion of the system that X comprises of is in kernel space, I believe.
Several users of both systems (including my own experience) tends to show that Windows comes up with a desktop earlier than Linux. But once there the disk is still trashing for some time. Whereas on Linux, once you're logger, you're logged and everything is ready to run.
The whole stuff is build on windows to give you the impression that it is faster. Actually, if you have 700 mb of memory or more, Windows Vista will boot far faster. The desktop is not userspace in Windows, anyway- it's kernel-space. This is a completely valid point. If your system is running with high RAM and a decent enough graphics card (low end DX9 card at least), then it'll boot up and be responsive crazy fast- even on a middle-end system- and if you have flash in your system- it's no contest. Linux has always been behind in speed-hacks, this is nothing new.
If you want to say that linux boots faster because its desktop system is a massive, bloated, user-space mess and its *technically* usable once the console is up- you should compare it to Windows PE or DOS. Users care about when their desktop is up.
So no- Wrong, wrong, wrong. It's not built to give you that *impression* - it's a completely different OS design that happens to be faster, at this point.
This article is full of fuming anger and childish insults. This is a poor excuse for journalism. I'll wait until a real reporter, expert, or analyst writes about this to form an opinion.
The world of tech journalism is full of wild fanboys- his "wild march to Linux" is far more underlined by a march to Mac, and moreso even to XP. I question this guy's motives.
They're so goddamn creative.
Prey is NOT a DX 10 game but a DX 9 game which works more or less okay in WineHQ/CW. Seconded. We have a hard enough time working with Direct X 10 as a professional game studio, BS someone "reverse engineered" it.
Who says the iPhone is a "meager embedded system"? Dual ARM processors, each in my experience about as powerful as an 800 MHz P4, 8 GB harddisk space including about half a GB for the OS, running the worlds leading OS. That is not "meager". The World != San Fransisco
Are you sure you're not thinking of SymbianOS? Maybe Windows?
Microsoft is about to get their ass handed to them again and they know it. Consumer device or not, gimmick or not, the iPhone is already having a huge impact on the moble market - AND IT'S NOT EVEN OUT YET!!!
Next up: "One time software giant Microsoft files suit against Apple, Inc. for monopolizing the mobile business device market"... well, it wouldn't be the first time someone snatched the pretzels out of Ballmer's mouth.
ewwww... I just grossed myself out.
Yes, the Consumer Market. If you see them create a Zune Phone, that will be competition. They already have a decent marketshare in smartphones- Apple is not the 800 lbs. gorilla, in this case. They still only have the Apple fanboys and general enthusiasts sold at this point. It's about as relevant to business as an iPod and a smartphone taped together.You're suffering severe brain damage if you can't see that one coming.
What would be a killer-cellphone for me? One on which I can read GMail, use eBay, use my favorite Web 2.0 apps. "Web 2.0" may sounds buzzwordish to you, but look at the most frequented website. This is what consumer wants. And this is exactly what more and more cellphones are going to give them.
The nice thing with Webapps is that as sucky as you may find them, they're actually not that demanding on the client-side (your cellphone's browser). And, best of all, once Google finds a nice optimization for, say, Google Spreadsheet... There's no patching needed. Nada. Zilch. You open your cellphone's browser and it just works.
Using "Office Mobile designed for MOBILE PHONES" [sic] will NOT be an interesting option once you've got good client/server Webapps.
The webapps are a relatively recent phenomenon and it already has lots and lots of momentum: they'll keep getting better and better and lighter and lighter. Not too mention that I've never seen the cellphones getting less and less powerful. So the "performances" problem will turn in favor of the Webapps.
There are companies like Google, Sun and Apple that do not want the world to go the "all MS way", from the desktop to the mobile phone.
I envision a huge fight and, somehow, I think MS will have a hard time fighting Google, Sun, IBM, Nokia, Apple, etc. Moreover all the Webapps developers SHALL target the cellphone browsers.
The demand for a good AJAX compatible browser on a cellphone is there and companies are coming with answers.
It will take more to defeat that trend than saying: "but Office Mobile is designed for MOBILE PHONES".
Whoops, Reality Strikes!- you tech evangelist. 3g is not available in most of the country, at this point. You know, the part people would be traveling through.
You're talking about a world a few years in the future from now- will business leaders be willing to pay $600 a unit for this world, cross their fingers, and hope it exists? No- businesses tend to be very conservative. It's the consumers that can afford to be evangelists. We're talking about a product coming out in the immediate future, not the gray, mysterious realm of possibility. Futurism is not a viable business strategy.
Why would you not run a local application on a moving computer with an unstable connection? Why would you want to depend on having 3g to simply read a document when you could instead open it up for a quick read or edit on a local application? It's just plain practical. Why would you run a local application in AJAX when you could be running in the much faster
As it stands, google docs and spreadsheets is the best of such web applications, and it's still a pretty meager offering. Advice: take some valium and relax, Microsoft will maintain the business/smart-phone market this time around until 3g+ coverage is complete. If Apple was planning an office suite for it, they'd have said it by now. And yes, my win-98 era desktop is more powerful than the iPhone. Microsoft is still right. Perhaps FUTURE iPHONE will conquer the business smart phone market. I wouldn't put my money on it just yet, though.
I might need to edit a powerpoint presentation or a word document or something- hell, there's all sorts of random business situations that arise during travel that your company might like you to address. They don't give you a phone so you can be more social, after all.
Doesn't this just make Microsoft right about this little statement? They never said the iPhone was bad or wrong- just that it was irrelevant to business. It's a consumer-market device. It's just plain true. Deal with it!
How did you manage to miss all the hoopla about offline app support in Firefox 3.0? Because I have a job. A job that doesn't involve web development. Also, I'm not really a F/OSS enthusiast... at all. And guess what, someone might even create a web app that is targeted at mobile devices. An office suite? I'd like to see it. Google docs runs like crap on my old win98-era PC, I'd really like to see them make an office web app run well on a tiny little machine like the iPhone. Wait... why are we not using local applications that take advantage of the platform's little power? Is it so we can 'hack' the iPhone to make it useful?
I have a better idea. Just buy something useful- that's meant to be productive... it might not even cost over half a grand.
Are you suggesting running a web-based AJAX office application on a phone instead of a native mobile application?
Why run something bloated when you can run something bloated on web page running off a web browser inside a tiny mobile phone... web office apps only make sense on actual PC's with solid connections.
Office Mobile is designed for MOBILE PHONES it is optimized for MOBILE PHONES- I couldn't imagine running web applications on a cell phone- that's so counter-intuitive. What would happen if you went through a tunnel on at rain or something? What if you were on a plane?
You need local office apps that play nice with your business infrastructure, so that they're always available and are not tied to a web connection. Microsoft is correct, here.
It doesn't even matter, because a it would be retarded for a business to give its employees something like an iPhone. It's designed for doing everything BUT working. Maybe if you're working for a magazine that writes movie, tv, or music reviews...
Much of the law is based on precedent, which means that prior decisions in similar court cases influence or completely decide the outcome of current cases. The biggest problem with this kind of corporate behavior is that it sets a precedent. Microsoft can now demonstrate based on these two *HUGE* deals, that these companies acknowledge that Linux infringes on Microsoft's patents. Whether it *actually* does or not is not the issue. The precedent is now set. Novell and Samsung, with their assumed vast and knowledgeable legal team has gone over these agreements, and SIGNED them, affirming that without these agreements, they would be subject to expensive and lengthy legal battles.
From the corporate perspective, I can see why they've done it. Nobody wants another IBM vs. SCO battle, which is what this would be if they were to refuse these agreements. Except that this kind of case you wouldn't be dealing with a relatively small corporation like SCO, you would be facing off against a MULTI-BILLION dollar corporation with one of the best legal teams in the world that money can buy. From that perspective, the obvious answer is "Sign the agreement and be done with it".
I don't condone this behavior, I'm a firm believer that if your producing an honest product, you should be safe from big corporations threatening legal action against you. I think Microsoft should have some kind of basis for making the claims that they make. If Linux infringes their patents, come now, out with it. Show us your evidence, patent numbers, specific code. These corporations have obviously been given a quiet ultimatum... sign... or fight us.
Thats my 2 cents worth anyways. And how does this hurt Samsung? It seems to be a careful move on their part.
It sure is a mystery why they don't ask Slashdot before making legal decisions.
Do you guys actually believe that Samsung's no-doubt massive legal team didn't comb over this agreement and consider it necessary and relevant?
Why does everyone assume that companies just *do* things that will ruin everyone, everything, and allow another company victory?
If it seems like Samsung is forfeiting profit, you're simply looking at it wrong. The kind of oversight people are making on this thread about the purpose of this deal would result in the company literally getting sued by their shareholders.
In short, Samsung did this because it was cheaper or convenient for them, and would not cost them any sales or necessary flexibility.
Stop acting like open source is so inflexible and fragile! This is Novell and Samsung's business, not the entire OSS community's.
I would be really worried if I were that kid. If he's in any country with an extradition treaty, I'm pretty sure he'll get nailed by the authorities. Our post 9/11-government is pretty sensitive to electronic criminals like this.
I know being a l33t h4x0r is all about bragging about your crap, but honestly-- even claiming to have done this is very dangerous if you're not in the third world.
Are you a shill, or just incredibly stupid and/or naive?
Microsoft has stated repeatedly that Open Source is the enemy and in so many words. If you missed that, you are simply not informed enough to be qualified to contribute to this discussion.
Now, Microsoft is saying that they are prepared to work with Open Source. But based on Microsoft's past record of falsehood, fraud, abuse of their monopoly position, price fixing, illegal dumping and bundling, and the laundry list of other complaints, you would have to be some kind of idiot to trust them now.
If they're offering a superior product that will give their workforce more competitive range than the completely wacky proprietary lock-in of the 're-thought' sugar interface for their kids, it might be worth it.At least they'll learn to use an OS that people actually use... that supports software that people actually use...
well, outside of what people *supposedly* run on places like
If Open Source threatens their marketshare, it's not even immoral for them to compete with it. End of story.
Windows Migration Assistant? I tried to use Ubuntu to bail out a system with a messed up bootloader. The new installer is a joke. It only claims to have that functionality, everything is still just as *unfinished* as it was 3 years ago. It even used auto-update to ice my nvidia drivers that I'd used Restricted Drivers Manager to install with some sort of dummy package. Yeah. They're really moving forward...
Here is you:
http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?
Here is Russia:
http://www.rbcnews.com/free/20070410174512.shtml
And China:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/business/6353183.stm
Or in your language:
"Aw shit I gots no $. A-rabs and Commies stole my $. Ken git no mo donutz...." You're an idiot. Our purchasing parity is still massively larger than China or Russia. Our industries are largely outsourced, so those of us with white collar jobs are still seeing massive profits. We use world bank to ride the growth profits of many developing nations, anyway. Our economy cycles. We go in and out of trade gaps and debt without suffering major costs to our luxury goods.
We still have a lot more carry-around cash. If things continued this way for the next couple decades, Russia and China might have comparable purchasing parity and potential, but the reality is that our economy will cycle within 5 years. Our debt fluctuates depending on administration, and this administration is 'starving the beast'- because they're neocons, like Reagan. Those of us who don't live in dog-shit ex-communist countries can have a broke government yet still have largely profitable industries. Countries like China wouldn't buy all our debt if they didn't depend on our nation rising out of it very quickly when this administration is ousted- they're extremely dependent on us. Enjoy all our outsourced pollution.
Translation: Watch out for wild dogs, and make sure you check your hovel for rodents. Despite your horrible misinterpretation of the world market, which cycles through this every decade, we're still way richer. So I can buy plenty of donuts, thank you. You can gloat when you're not living in east europe, the asshole of the world.
You know, that stinky stuff you put in yr Hummer?
Have you checked the US balance of payments lately?
Russiaactually has lots of your $$$$ from selling you lots of this stinky stuff.
China lots of your $$$$ from selling you most of everything else.
Living off your credit card is certainly an unusual view of being rich. You should Google to see where the money actually is - ie not in your pocket.
You are actually broke, have an unpopular president and have lost a war n Afghanistan (Oh, and Iraq). Much indeed as was the USSR before it fell apart.
Fatass, or should I call you "Cho Seung-Hui," you truly are truly a credit to yr Krispy Kreme eating compatriots.
BOOM! HEADSHOT! BOOM! HEADSHOT PSHEW PSHEW! - you are a no less that a man, or at least a 13 year old of true taste. Cho Seung-Hui was from South Korea. Quick googling, I found this common phrase "The US has the largest and most technologically powerful economy in the world..." Is this even a competition? I'll line it up, anyway.
Let's see... Russian GDP... $733 billion
Not bad!
US GDP... $13.22 trillion
Oh, whoops. You lose.
Russia: $317.6 billion
China: $974 billion
US: $1.869 trillion
Our debt goes up and down depending on whether we have democrats or republicans in office- right now, we have republicans. I think the debt will go away when we elect a new administration, but thanks for the concern. For being in such a rough spot, we sure seem to be doing pretty well, especially compared to that decrepit junkyard you call home. The fact that someone living in dogshit, east europe knows about things like 'Krispy Kreme' is a sign that we're still pretty influential. Sorry, pal. Keep trying.
Isn't this what Republicans used to be like? For state powers and against centralization? What would that make Bush? Fascist?
Dominating the world software industry with sales of 244 units? Wow! Clear thinking buddy.
Time to shift yr fat ass from Fox News and look outside yr window, Cho Seung-Hui. All the evidence? What does Russia even do anymore- are there any large legitimate businesses there? I can't think of any that I interact with. Sometimes I see clothing that's been 'made in Russia'.
Yes, 244 units internationally. You have excellent reading skills. Do you guys even have schools over there- Or has your government sold them all to buy gold-plated jets?