I almost can't believe that someone seriously believes this shit. Here's the thing: property does not mean land, necessarily. No one would dispute that my computer is my property. It's mine, I own it. However, I do not pay property tax on it. I may have paid sales tax when I bought it initially, but no government agency is sending me a yearly bill for the right to own my computer.
This is a retarded idea put forth by someone who just doesn't like the idea of IP. If you don't like IP, fine, but don't come up with half-baked schemes that twist the meaning of words.
Most of whom are innocent people. If you seriously believe that the majority of those people are evil men/women who deserve to have their throats cut in their sleep, you're fucking insane. Or evil. Either way, those people don't all deserve to die. Most of them don't even deserve to die.
Holy shit. This is the saddest day for/. that I've ever seen: a post claiming religion does nothing but evil (obviously untrue), and that every pastor, priest, etc, should be murdered in their sleep is modded fucking insightful.
Sorry, but calling for violence against innocent people is in no way insightful, mods. And Mr. AC, consider this: if you'd slaughtered the thousands of religious leaders who have done no wrong, all that innocent blood would be on your hands... and you'd be no better than you make them out to be.
A company with a sense of fair play. By trying to patent their specific gestures, thus locking everyone else out, Apple IS patent trolling, imho. These are not concepts which should be patentable, they're too basic.
The name of the OS doesn't have to have a damn thing to do with the parties whose work went into it. It's just a name, the proper place for recognition of work is elsewhere. So while it certainly isn't wrong to call Linux GNU/Linux, it's stupid and unnecessary. Anyone who gives a damn about the GNU part of it can presumably easily find out already, without renaming the OS to some really awkward-sounding name.
Hi. I use Vista. I'm extremely happy with it. There are plenty of happy Vista users out there, even on/.. I am thoroughly convinced, by now, that the Vista-hate is more hype than substance... there's just nothing that damn bad that necessarily drives you away from it (for the average user), unless you're opposed to Windows in general and not just Vista.
The "normal" Xbox 360 has no hard drive. For any gamer I know, the Pro is the normal model, since it has a hard drive in it, and you don't have to dick around with memory cards. Anyone who buys the cheap 360 is getting ripped off, imnsho.
he looked at me and said "maybe you and i aren't as affected by it because we actually read". Your friend is quite wrong. I've read a great many books in my time, and still do. I wasn't touched by the plot point of FF7 you mentioned, but I was extremely moved by the plot of the game as a whole.
If you aren't moved by the plot of something, it's rather pretentious to presume it's because you're too good for it (or some other similar sentiment), isn't it? Apparently the plot (or plot point) wasn't very interesting to you... but that has precious little to do with how much you read, it's just how that particular story resonated with you. Another may be more or less moving, but the cause is the plot, not your exposure to other media.
No, I presume that it will be bad, and that I will be forced into it if it proves to be bad. That's the catch, right there. I don't care how bad it is, as long as I can get out if it's bad. However, I know that's not going to be the case, and if we have a bad system, there'll be no way out.
See, you have this bad interpretation going on. You think, and have thought, from the start (erroneously) that I hate universal health care. No. For starters, I only said that there are good reasons to hate it, but I don't even hate it, although I recognize good reasons to do so. I merely want an excellent plan in place so that we won't be permanently stuck with the bad system that, without caution, our government is liable to design.
The only reason I have to be apprehensive (not even hate, as you wrongly inferred from my post) is that I don't trust the US government to do it right. At all. Period. I consider them to be a bunch of incompetent morons in Washington, and personally, I'd rather not be forced into some crappy, badly-run system that they come up with. If it's good, fine then, I'll use it, but if it's bad, I'd be pretty pissed about being forced to pay for sub-par service.
There are perfectly good reasons to hate universal health care and Social Security apart from supposed hatred of poor people. Not all of us trust the government to be a good provider, and want the ability to opt out of a bad system. Social Security is an even better example. If I believe that Social Security is going to collapse before I can benefit (I have no opinion on the matter, for the record, as I lack sufficient information), why the hell would I want pay into such a thing?
Not everyone who wants a free market is doing it for the evil reasons you paint, and not everyone who doesn't want the programs you mention is a greedy bastard who wants to be better than poor people.
If you truly believe that religious belief necessarily implies a willingness or tendency to do violence, then you, sir, are the one who has abandoned your faculty of reason. Not the religious people.
You know, it would really help if you actually tried to argue for your position, rather than angrily claiming things without any evidence or logic to support your claims. I've already stated that this is a matter where no objective facts are to be found. What do you want me to do? I can't use reasoning and logic to support my argument, when arguing something which is 100% subjective.
No. You're wrong. Apple's UI team is wrong too. It's really fucking confusing to not have each window with its own menu bar. A menu bar is, logically, something which is associated with an application. Not the system. Of course, you also believe (wrongly) UI design is a science, so you're hopeless as far as I'm concerned.
Bull. It's entirely possible to provide a good user experience without having total control, practically every other tech company does it all the time. Assuming Apple's insistence on control is in order to provide a good user experience, and not cause they like control (which is a big assumption), Apple is just being sloppy in that case.
I've spent significant time in the Mac GUI. I used to have to work in it all the time, providing support to Mac users. It was the most infuriating UI experience I can remember having. So, in answer to your suggestion, I already did that. It'd be nice if people quit assuming that anyone bashing the Mac OS GUI is some moron who's only used it for 5 minutes.:/
And not to rip on your research, but I consider usability research pure BS. It's frankly impossible to objectively determine rules for what people find easier, when personal preferences vary so widely.
No one is saying we need to have God (or the government, or anyone, really) swoop in and smite Apple for the way they're doing business. That does not mean, however, that we should approve of the way they're doing business. And of course I don't own an iPhone. It's the most horribly overpriced gadget I've seen in some time. That does not mean, however, that I (and others) don't have the right to criticize Apple's business strategy/practices if I feel that they're detrimental to consumers.
If I could get away with selling my spit to people for $1000 per drop, no one would approve (except in the "If they're stupid enough to buy it, more power to him" sense). It's no different with Apple. They've adopted an anti-consumer policy, and we have the right to criticize them for it, in addition to choosing not to purchase their product.
I won't call Macs not technially advanced, but I also dispute the "simpler and more pleasurable to use" statement. Mac OS doesn't, never has, and most likely never will have, a decent UI. Everything that you can do with your OS is either a) the same as on Windows/Linux, or b) more difficult and frustrating than Windows/Linux. The UI is also fucking confusing... whoever insisted on the "Hey guys, let's have only one menu bar for every window, ever!" idea should never get to design a GUI again.
Of course, this is sheer opinion, so take it with a grain of salt. In fact, the whole debate is pretty much worthless, as no one is going to convince anyone else here, and there are no facts whatsoever which are relevant.
It's about time a phone maker stood up to these phone operators, they are overcharging people and they've held back development of easier to use phones and convenient features. Agreed, but Apple isn't standing up to them in the least. They're playing by the tyrants' rules, not challenging them.
Yes, this platform really is that special, no matter how much you, personally, might hate Apple, the iPhone, or both. No it isn't. Apple fanboys have been proclaiming this since before the iPhone was released, and it wasn't true then, and it hasn't become one iota more true in the meantime. It's just a phone. That's it. It's a well-made phone, I must admit (even though I normally hate Apple design, they did a good job on this one), but nothing more. It is no more than a logical extension of the concepts which were already there, not anything revolutionary.
But again, that's part of that pleasant experience that you think is wrong. No, it's part of control. This isn't surprising, as there's no company on the face of the planet which is more of a control freak than Apple, but it's still about control, not a "pleasant experience". Apple wants you to use their products in exactly the way they see fit, when they see fit, if they see fit. And that, I submit, is what's wrong here.
No one has a problem with a pleasant experience, despite your idiotic interpretation to the contrary. What we have a problem with is the practices Apple is using. They are hardly necessary to ensure a pleasant user experience, and never have been. Apple just chooses to take the easy way.
So the point is not "don't bash the NFL" like you make it out to be. It's "don't give special treatment to churches, etc". I read it as "The NFL is out of line, but since it's a church, fuck them, they're just trying to win sympathy".
Who cares? Squirting out kids or belonging to a church doesn't earn you special rights, special treatment, special sympathy or special consideration. What's your point? The fact that they're in a church doesn't mean that we should be any less outraged, either. The NFL is abusing copyright law, and it happens to be a church who's getting hurt. The story is the abuse, not the fact that it's happening to a church.
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This is a retarded idea put forth by someone who just doesn't like the idea of IP. If you don't like IP, fine, but don't come up with half-baked schemes that twist the meaning of words.
Most of whom are innocent people. If you seriously believe that the majority of those people are evil men/women who deserve to have their throats cut in their sleep, you're fucking insane. Or evil. Either way, those people don't all deserve to die. Most of them don't even deserve to die.
Sorry, but calling for violence against innocent people is in no way insightful, mods. And Mr. AC, consider this: if you'd slaughtered the thousands of religious leaders who have done no wrong, all that innocent blood would be on your hands... and you'd be no better than you make them out to be.
A company with a sense of fair play. By trying to patent their specific gestures, thus locking everyone else out, Apple IS patent trolling, imho. These are not concepts which should be patentable, they're too basic.
The name of the OS doesn't have to have a damn thing to do with the parties whose work went into it. It's just a name, the proper place for recognition of work is elsewhere. So while it certainly isn't wrong to call Linux GNU/Linux, it's stupid and unnecessary. Anyone who gives a damn about the GNU part of it can presumably easily find out already, without renaming the OS to some really awkward-sounding name.
Hi. I use Vista. I'm extremely happy with it. There are plenty of happy Vista users out there, even on /.. I am thoroughly convinced, by now, that the Vista-hate is more hype than substance... there's just nothing that damn bad that necessarily drives you away from it (for the average user), unless you're opposed to Windows in general and not just Vista.
You got me, man. I think Sephiroth is a pretty decent villian, all things considered, but why anyone would fangirlishly obsess over him is beyond me.
The "normal" Xbox 360 has no hard drive. For any gamer I know, the Pro is the normal model, since it has a hard drive in it, and you don't have to dick around with memory cards. Anyone who buys the cheap 360 is getting ripped off, imnsho.
If you aren't moved by the plot of something, it's rather pretentious to presume it's because you're too good for it (or some other similar sentiment), isn't it? Apparently the plot (or plot point) wasn't very interesting to you... but that has precious little to do with how much you read, it's just how that particular story resonated with you. Another may be more or less moving, but the cause is the plot, not your exposure to other media.
Besides, in any case, the AC said that he modded down cause he disagreed. That is pretty much sucking as a moderator, by definition.
See, you have this bad interpretation going on. You think, and have thought, from the start (erroneously) that I hate universal health care. No. For starters, I only said that there are good reasons to hate it, but I don't even hate it, although I recognize good reasons to do so. I merely want an excellent plan in place so that we won't be permanently stuck with the bad system that, without caution, our government is liable to design.
The only reason I have to be apprehensive (not even hate, as you wrongly inferred from my post) is that I don't trust the US government to do it right. At all. Period. I consider them to be a bunch of incompetent morons in Washington, and personally, I'd rather not be forced into some crappy, badly-run system that they come up with. If it's good, fine then, I'll use it, but if it's bad, I'd be pretty pissed about being forced to pay for sub-par service.
Not everyone who wants a free market is doing it for the evil reasons you paint, and not everyone who doesn't want the programs you mention is a greedy bastard who wants to be better than poor people.
If you truly believe that religious belief necessarily implies a willingness or tendency to do violence, then you, sir, are the one who has abandoned your faculty of reason. Not the religious people.
No. You're wrong. Apple's UI team is wrong too. It's really fucking confusing to not have each window with its own menu bar. A menu bar is, logically, something which is associated with an application. Not the system. Of course, you also believe (wrongly) UI design is a science, so you're hopeless as far as I'm concerned.
Bull. It's entirely possible to provide a good user experience without having total control, practically every other tech company does it all the time. Assuming Apple's insistence on control is in order to provide a good user experience, and not cause they like control (which is a big assumption), Apple is just being sloppy in that case.
And not to rip on your research, but I consider usability research pure BS. It's frankly impossible to objectively determine rules for what people find easier, when personal preferences vary so widely.
If I could get away with selling my spit to people for $1000 per drop, no one would approve (except in the "If they're stupid enough to buy it, more power to him" sense). It's no different with Apple. They've adopted an anti-consumer policy, and we have the right to criticize them for it, in addition to choosing not to purchase their product.
Of course, this is sheer opinion, so take it with a grain of salt. In fact, the whole debate is pretty much worthless, as no one is going to convince anyone else here, and there are no facts whatsoever which are relevant.
No one has a problem with a pleasant experience, despite your idiotic interpretation to the contrary. What we have a problem with is the practices Apple is using. They are hardly necessary to ensure a pleasant user experience, and never have been. Apple just chooses to take the easy way.