Yeah, I'd like that too and I guess technically ir'd be pretty easy but Ms won't do it because they want a single UI for everyone and every device.
It royally annoys me when something is technically possible but is blocked by other reasons.
I don't know how good it's for touch but for mouse and keyboard the new UI is mediocre, it's got too much whitespace. I also hate the new mobile-style default apps
Dark Theme? How about a Windows 7 theme. That's one that I'd use.
I don't know how integrated with the OS this Bash is but you can already get Bash for Windows from Mingw-w64 and others.
The title says it all. If Microsoft are now such good people why isn't this cross platform play supported on Windows 7,8 or Linux or Mac? Couldn't it be that Ms is trying to make Windows 10 and Xbox more appealing than the PS4 and just trying to make more money?
There's no good guy and no bad guy. They're just companies and if sometimes seem better or worse is because of the amount of power they have in those instants.
Right now, Microsoft has a ridiculous marketshare on mobiles so if they don't want their software and services to drift towards irrelevance they must make them available where the people is i.e.: Android and iOS. That's the only reason they're releasing so many software for those plaforms now
IMO making websites (and, in general, computer UIs) mobile/touch friendly has made them much worse.
I understand the benefits of having a single UI for everyone but that leads to the least common denominator which include sparse UIs which tons of whitespace.
That's forcing users of traditional PCs to use a UI that's worse that's not optimal for what their screen and input interfaces allow and that's worse than what they had before.
I understand that the mobile devices are now a majority but, please can't we get 2 UIs? one for desktop and one for mobile/touch. I'm not asking for much just for what we used to have.
Do they get pushed to their limits by the latest apps?
I guess most apps don't push the CPUs very hard with the probable exception of games. I guess VR will eat all the power it can get
you can only milk the office suite and OS for so long
Yeah, that's why now sell primarily Office as a subscription service to keep a constant revenue and have turned Windows into a data gathering, MS-service-pushing and advertising platform.
Those moves make financial sense but I hate what they've turned Windows into.
Exactly. I also want to pay for things with only money and not my privacy and data.
Ideally, every service which is totally or in part paid with advertisements or my data should have an option to be paid with money.
Sadly we seem to be going the opposite direction where more and more services can only be paid with your privacy. See for instance Windows 10: There's no way to completely remove the data gathering features even if you pay Microsoft.
I decent PC costs more than a console but not the 2k$ many people led you to believe. You can get a very decent gaming PC for less than 1000$.
Also, you can upgrade the parts as they break. A good case can last for many years. Likewise for a good PSU a good keyboard, etc.
...but I guess they think Samsung has too much control over it.
The problem is that if any smartphones is to compete with Android or iOS it's gotta be backed by a good amount of big companies. Although, at this point it's probably too late since even Microsoft has been unable to gain much marketshare despite their enormous resources.
Btw, I hate the artificial limitations that the current smartphone OS impose on users. They should give the user total freedom, they should be like PCs just smaller.
...but Google won't allow it because Android is just a vehicle to get you to use their services
Sadly even MS is going this way with Windows 10. OSs have stopped being tools for the user, they're now tools for the OS maker to get your data and make money off you
There was a comment in one of these Win 10 stories of someone who claimed to work for Microsoft. They said the internal plan was to continue with the free upgrades. I bet the supposed deadline is only there to scare some users to upgrade now or they'll have to pay later.
Why? Because Microsoft have changed their economic model regarding Windows:
They used to want people to buy Windows and thus they used to make the best OS they could.
They've now changed the business model to that of a mobile OS: Their plan is to make money through the Windows Store, the data they gather about you, etc.and thus they want everyone to run Win 10.
They're betting that by being insistent most people will cave in even if they don't like Windows 10 much.
I hate all of this but it seems things are going according to their plan
I can only speak for myself but...I find annoying having to install a separate app just to chat through Facebook. The main Facebook app is already huge (+100 MB) and it used to have the chat integrated so I resent having to install yet another app just for the chat.
As for the main topic of the article: That's what you get for using a propietary protocol/service. The owner gets to dictate how you use it. Every day I grow more and more tired of walled gardens and propietary services.
The rest of the product team is aware that this is unacceptable, they just have to go with it because the boss mandated the feature.
QA probably verified that the ads came up when they should
A moderate amount of money. I'd also pay for an official rooting method/toggle. i.e.: An official feature of Android, not depending on a exploit which will work only with certain software versions. Mainly for removing unused apps (some Google's).
Sadly to few people seem to care about removable battery and the current state is atrocious: Fewer and fewer phones have removable batteries.
A fixed battery is a form of programmed obsolescence and I don't want it.
I'd extend this request to the makers of every service that's promoted with spying and/or ads.
That includes Windows 10. Hey Microsoft! I'll pay good money if you give me Windows 7 with the internals of 10. Of course all data-gathering and promoting of Ms services must be removed
I have an Android phone because is the least bad of the alternatives out there not because I'm happy with it being a data-gathering channel for Google . In iOS you have even less control over your device. I don't even count Windows Phone after what Ms has done to Windows 10.
No OS should spy you, should have ads, should prevent you from completely controlling your device. Windows used to be a decent OS that complied with that. Now it isn't.
No, the real sad part is that most people that know all of that don't care. They'll say they've nothing to hide or that Android also spies on you (that one is true but that's no reason to also have this crap on Windows).
Yeah, legal difficulties is one big reason Windows will never be open source but the real deal breaker are commercial reasons: Windows 10 has been designed to be a vehicle for data-gathering, publicity for Microsoft's sw and services including the Windows Store from which Ms stands to gain a lot of money.
If Windows were open source people could remove all of that (and create a sane Windows like 7) and obviously Ms won't allow that.
I was under the impression that Sun never made much money from Java.
They didn't ask end users money for using Java, they didn't charge for the compiler nor for any IDE.
They did sell books and courses, also certifications. I think they also charged to JavaEE server vendors to certify them as JavaEE compliant, but as I said I believe nothing of that ever made them earn huge amounts of money.
Whether Google shoud've paid them money to use Java is another completely different matter.
Nope. Java copied some syntax from C including names for primitive types, loops and so on but they didn't copy the function signatures of the C standard library so they didn't copy any APIs.
Spot on on the gaming thing: Since PS4 was a real competitor to the Xbox and since they weren't going to do the same crap as them they got scared and had to backpedal.
I wish the world of desktop OS had the same amount of competition. If other OSs were capable of running Windows software Ms wouldn't have dared to do this.
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Yeah, I'd like that too and I guess technically ir'd be pretty easy but Ms won't do it because they want a single UI for everyone and every device.
It royally annoys me when something is technically possible but is blocked by other reasons.
I don't know how good it's for touch but for mouse and keyboard the new UI is mediocre, it's got too much whitespace. I also hate the new mobile-style default apps
Dark Theme? How about a Windows 7 theme. That's one that I'd use.
I don't know how integrated with the OS this Bash is but you can already get Bash for Windows from Mingw-w64 and others.
The title says it all. If Microsoft are now such good people why isn't this cross platform play supported on Windows 7,8 or Linux or Mac? Couldn't it be that Ms is trying to make Windows 10 and Xbox more appealing than the PS4 and just trying to make more money?
There's no good guy and no bad guy. They're just companies and if sometimes seem better or worse is because of the amount of power they have in those instants.
Right now, Microsoft has a ridiculous marketshare on mobiles so if they don't want their software and services to drift towards irrelevance they must make them available where the people is i.e.: Android and iOS. That's the only reason they're releasing so many software for those plaforms now
IMO making websites (and, in general, computer UIs) mobile/touch friendly has made them much worse.
I understand the benefits of having a single UI for everyone but that leads to the least common denominator which include sparse UIs which tons of whitespace.
That's forcing users of traditional PCs to use a UI that's worse that's not optimal for what their screen and input interfaces allow and that's worse than what they had before.
I understand that the mobile devices are now a majority but, please can't we get 2 UIs? one for desktop and one for mobile/touch. I'm not asking for much just for what we used to have.
Do they get pushed to their limits by the latest apps?
I guess most apps don't push the CPUs very hard with the probable exception of games. I guess VR will eat all the power it can get
you can only milk the office suite and OS for so long
Yeah, that's why now sell primarily Office as a subscription service to keep a constant revenue and have turned Windows into a data gathering, MS-service-pushing and advertising platform.
Those moves make financial sense but I hate what they've turned Windows into.
Exactly. I also want to pay for things with only money and not my privacy and data.
Ideally, every service which is totally or in part paid with advertisements or my data should have an option to be paid with money.
Sadly we seem to be going the opposite direction where more and more services can only be paid with your privacy. See for instance Windows 10: There's no way to completely remove the data gathering features even if you pay Microsoft.
I decent PC costs more than a console but not the 2k$ many people led you to believe. You can get a very decent gaming PC for less than 1000$.
Also, you can upgrade the parts as they break. A good case can last for many years. Likewise for a good PSU a good keyboard, etc.
...but I guess they think Samsung has too much control over it.
The problem is that if any smartphones is to compete with Android or iOS it's gotta be backed by a good amount of big companies. Although, at this point it's probably too late since even Microsoft has been unable to gain much marketshare despite their enormous resources.
Btw, I hate the artificial limitations that the current smartphone OS impose on users. They should give the user total freedom, they should be like PCs just smaller.
...but Google won't allow it because Android is just a vehicle to get you to use their services
Sadly even MS is going this way with Windows 10. OSs have stopped being tools for the user, they're now tools for the OS maker to get your data and make money off you
There was a comment in one of these Win 10 stories of someone who claimed to work for Microsoft. They said the internal plan was to continue with the free upgrades. I bet the supposed deadline is only there to scare some users to upgrade now or they'll have to pay later.
Why? Because Microsoft have changed their economic model regarding Windows:
They used to want people to buy Windows and thus they used to make the best OS they could.
They've now changed the business model to that of a mobile OS: Their plan is to make money through the Windows Store, the data they gather about you, etc.and thus they want everyone to run Win 10.
They're betting that by being insistent most people will cave in even if they don't like Windows 10 much.
I hate all of this but it seems things are going according to their plan
I can only speak for myself but...I find annoying having to install a separate app just to chat through Facebook. The main Facebook app is already huge (+100 MB) and it used to have the chat integrated so I resent having to install yet another app just for the chat.
As for the main topic of the article: That's what you get for using a propietary protocol/service. The owner gets to dictate how you use it. Every day I grow more and more tired of walled gardens and propietary services.
The rest of the product team is aware that this is unacceptable, they just have to go with it because the boss mandated the feature.
QA probably verified that the ads came up when they should
A moderate amount of money. I'd also pay for an official rooting method/toggle. i.e.: An official feature of Android, not depending on a exploit which will work only with certain software versions. Mainly for removing unused apps (some Google's).
Sadly to few people seem to care about removable battery and the current state is atrocious: Fewer and fewer phones have removable batteries.
A fixed battery is a form of programmed obsolescence and I don't want it.
I'd extend this request to the makers of every service that's promoted with spying and/or ads.
That includes Windows 10. Hey Microsoft! I'll pay good money if you give me Windows 7 with the internals of 10. Of course all data-gathering and promoting of Ms services must be removed
I have an Android phone because is the least bad of the alternatives out there not because I'm happy with it being a data-gathering channel for Google . In iOS you have even less control over your device. I don't even count Windows Phone after what Ms has done to Windows 10.
No OS should spy you, should have ads, should prevent you from completely controlling your device. Windows used to be a decent OS that complied with that. Now it isn't.
No, the real sad part is that most people that know all of that don't care. They'll say they've nothing to hide or that Android also spies on you (that one is true but that's no reason to also have this crap on Windows).
Why? Probably to prevent legal troubles: "But ...people had a way to prevent the update"
Yeah, legal difficulties is one big reason Windows will never be open source but the real deal breaker are commercial reasons: Windows 10 has been designed to be a vehicle for data-gathering, publicity for Microsoft's sw and services including the Windows Store from which Ms stands to gain a lot of money.
If Windows were open source people could remove all of that (and create a sane Windows like 7) and obviously Ms won't allow that.
I was under the impression that Sun never made much money from Java.
They didn't ask end users money for using Java, they didn't charge for the compiler nor for any IDE.
They did sell books and courses, also certifications. I think they also charged to JavaEE server vendors to certify them as JavaEE compliant, but as I said I believe nothing of that ever made them earn huge amounts of money.
Whether Google shoud've paid them money to use Java is another completely different matter.
Nope. Java copied some syntax from C including names for primitive types, loops and so on but they didn't copy the function signatures of the C standard library so they didn't copy any APIs.
Spot on on the gaming thing: Since PS4 was a real competitor to the Xbox and since they weren't going to do the same crap as them they got scared and had to backpedal.
I wish the world of desktop OS had the same amount of competition. If other OSs were capable of running Windows software Ms wouldn't have dared to do this.