Your argument also applies to car maintenance. There are plenty of videos on Youtube about how to do a brake job, which is arguably more much riskier if you do it wrongly. If you put a gun back together incorrectly, it's just not going to fire. If you put your car brakes back together incorrectly, you'll crash.
Indiana is not blue and I hope they don't choose Indianapolis because I don't want the influx of "progressives" that it would bring and the resulting Californication.
So mowing my lawn isn't worth doing? I'm not willing to pay anyone a living wage to do it (most especially myself) so I shouldn't pay a neighbor kid to do it? A 15 year-old sure doesn't need a living wage, but he'd definitely appreciate the extra cash I'd be willing to pay him to mow my lawn.
You communists are the stupidest people on earth.
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Meanwhile, have you seen any shortage of plumbers, drywallers, etc?
Yes, actually I have. I had the hardest time getting a plumber to install a sink recently.
Unfortunately, the skilled trades are no longer aspirational in these United States. In a society that’s convinced a four-year degree is the best path for the most people, a whole category of good jobs have been relegated to some sort of “vocational consolation prize.” Is it any wonder we have 1.3 trillion dollars in outstanding student loans? Is it really a surprise that vocational education has pretty much evaporated from high schools?(http://mikerowe.com/2016/02/stopignoringskillsgap/)
Why should we pay burger flippers a "living wage" when they could become plumbers or dry-wallers and earn a much better wage?
While I'm not a fan of it, let's be honest. Democrats only hate gerrymandering when Republicans do it successfully. This lawsuit is an attempt to force gerrymandering that favors Democrats.
What makes setting the freezing point of pure water at 0 and the boiling point at 100 convenient? I keep hearing this said, but no real explanation for why it's more convenient than setting 0 to the freezing point of a saturated brine. They're arbitrary. I do find the smaller degree of the Fahrenheit scale more convenient though.
It would be a cold day in hell that I worked in the porn industry.
Besides, there are pre-paid debit cards available at businesses that do accept cash which they can use to shield their illicit activities from their spouses.
Exactly this. If I had a retail business, I would very strongly consider making it card only. No cash on site to be stolen in a robbery or skimmed by dishonest employees. No need to go to the bank to make deposits. No need to keep an appropriate amount of cash and coins on hand for making change, and no chance for screwing up making change. It would be so very much simpler to manage and reduce costs.
I quit watching Halt and Catch Fire after a few episodes. The presentation of the tech was OK, but I found all of the characters unlikable. Not one of them seemed to have any sense of humor. It was all just constant stress and drama.
99% of the "estimated 83% of Americans who support net neutrality" haven't the faintest idea of what it actually means. The extreme reactions I've seen from it's supporters ("The internet is literally dead!") has really turned me off.
I increased my calorie intake on a low carb/high fat diet and lost weight. "Calorie-in / calorie-out" stupidly naive; could I gain weight eating 3000 calories of hickory saw dust or hay a day?
Yeah, I left that part out. He had extensive experience with one very large C++ code base (some game) that was, of course, a mess. Not being able to get his brain around it meant the language was obviously the problem. With an ego as large as his, *he* couldn't be the problem, right?
The thing about C++ (or really any language) is that well-written projects don't tend to need many programmers -- they're easy to maintain and extend -- and thus they don't gather a lot of programmers and don't have large turn-over.
People who do electrical engineering learn to read and understand the funky symbols they use in electricity. We don't expect them to write out everything in plain English. It's the same with programming. Your Pascal-y pseudo-code took how much more space and time to convey no extra information? Your pseudo-code actually took longer for me to parse and understand than the C version.
"Well, perhaps some lesser programmers have problems with those" and that's the problem ESR is grappling with-- most programmers are lesser programmers. Far too many people who write software shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a computer. ESR's solution to this is a dumb language that prevents code grinders from doing the wrong thing. That's why he's adamantly against C++. He thinks it's too easy for the monkeys he deals with to write reams of trash. What he doesn't realize is that the monkeys he works with are going to write reams of trash no matter what language he gives them.
You can be snotty about the principles of good software development, but using them I've written thousands upon thousands of lines of code that simply work. Customers don't call to report bugs in code I wrote. QA doesn't file bugs against my code.
The wise programmer is told about Tao and follows it. The average programmer is told about Tao and searches for it. The foolish programmer is told about Tao and laughs at it.
If it were not for laughter, there would be no Tao.
I certainly don't think programming language doesn't matter. Some languages are simply awful, and those languages tend to be the ones that (in the guise of making it easier to write good code) focus on preventing the programmer from writing bad code (e.g. Basic, Delphi, Java). Any language that takes capability away from the programmer because it might be misused is a bad language. You can still write 'not-bad' code in those languages, it's just not as easy to write great code.
The fundamental thing is that it's the programmer that writes crappy code. If I write bad code, it's not the language's fault, it's mine. A language can hinder me from writing great code; it can not make me write bad code.
"... you have to be very stupid to write bad code in those languages..." So what you're saying is that most Java and C# programmers are very stupid? I can't disagree. Most of the Java and C# (and pascal and VB and php and...) I've ever seen was awful, violating all the principles of good software development. Most of the C, C++, and every other language I've seen was pretty bad too. Most people who write software should not.
I keep hearing this idiotic nonsense repeated ad nauseum in the programming world by morons who think the language is the problem; that making just the right language will make all the bugs go away. It's trivially easy to write readable code in Perl, just as it's trivially easy to write unreadable, unmaintainable spaghetti in Java or C#. It has nothing to do with the syntax of the language. It has everything to do with the person writing the code.
Actually, if all you eat is meat and you cut out (e.g. stop buying) the massive volume of cheap carb crap, you'll save money, won't be hungry much at all, and you'll be a lot healthier.
Have you ever tried to over-eat on fat calories? You should try it some time. You quickly grow full and you just don't want anymore, totally unlike with carbs.
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Your argument also applies to car maintenance. There are plenty of videos on Youtube about how to do a brake job, which is arguably more much riskier if you do it wrongly. If you put a gun back together incorrectly, it's just not going to fire. If you put your car brakes back together incorrectly, you'll crash.
Indiana is not blue and I hope they don't choose Indianapolis because I don't want the influx of "progressives" that it would bring and the resulting Californication.
"Smart" quotes aren't. Any software that inserts them should be banned.
... NYC generates very little horsehit.
Gotta disagree. Pretty much everything that comes out of NYC is horseshit.
Anytime the blood sucking leeches who contribute nothing are thwarted, I cheer.
So mowing my lawn isn't worth doing? I'm not willing to pay anyone a living wage to do it (most especially myself) so I shouldn't pay a neighbor kid to do it? A 15 year-old sure doesn't need a living wage, but he'd definitely appreciate the extra cash I'd be willing to pay him to mow my lawn.
You communists are the stupidest people on earth.
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Meanwhile, have you seen any shortage of plumbers, drywallers, etc?
Yes, actually I have. I had the hardest time getting a plumber to install a sink recently.
Unfortunately, the skilled trades are no longer aspirational in these United States. In a society that’s convinced a four-year degree is the best path for the most people, a whole category of good jobs have been relegated to some sort of “vocational consolation prize.” Is it any wonder we have 1.3 trillion dollars in outstanding student loans? Is it really a surprise that vocational education has pretty much evaporated from high schools?(http://mikerowe.com/2016/02/stopignoringskillsgap/)
Why should we pay burger flippers a "living wage" when they could become plumbers or dry-wallers and earn a much better wage?
While I'm not a fan of it, let's be honest. Democrats only hate gerrymandering when Republicans do it successfully. This lawsuit is an attempt to force gerrymandering that favors Democrats.
It's 17F where I am right now. I live where it gets cold. I prefer Fahrenheit.
What makes setting the freezing point of pure water at 0 and the boiling point at 100 convenient? I keep hearing this said, but no real explanation for why it's more convenient than setting 0 to the freezing point of a saturated brine. They're arbitrary. I do find the smaller degree of the Fahrenheit scale more convenient though.
It would be a cold day in hell that I worked in the porn industry.
Besides, there are pre-paid debit cards available at businesses that do accept cash which they can use to shield their illicit activities from their spouses.
Exactly this. If I had a retail business, I would very strongly consider making it card only. No cash on site to be stolen in a robbery or skimmed by dishonest employees. No need to go to the bank to make deposits. No need to keep an appropriate amount of cash and coins on hand for making change, and no chance for screwing up making change. It would be so very much simpler to manage and reduce costs.
I quit watching Halt and Catch Fire after a few episodes. The presentation of the tech was OK, but I found all of the characters unlikable. Not one of them seemed to have any sense of humor. It was all just constant stress and drama.
99% of the "estimated 83% of Americans who support net neutrality" haven't the faintest idea of what it actually means. The extreme reactions I've seen from it's supporters ("The internet is literally dead!") has really turned me off.
I increased my calorie intake on a low carb/high fat diet and lost weight. "Calorie-in / calorie-out" stupidly naive; could I gain weight eating 3000 calories of hickory saw dust or hay a day?
Yeah, I left that part out. He had extensive experience with one very large C++ code base (some game) that was, of course, a mess. Not being able to get his brain around it meant the language was obviously the problem. With an ego as large as his, *he* couldn't be the problem, right?
The thing about C++ (or really any language) is that well-written projects don't tend to need many programmers -- they're easy to maintain and extend -- and thus they don't gather a lot of programmers and don't have large turn-over.
People who do electrical engineering learn to read and understand the funky symbols they use in electricity. We don't expect them to write out everything in plain English. It's the same with programming. Your Pascal-y pseudo-code took how much more space and time to convey no extra information? Your pseudo-code actually took longer for me to parse and understand than the C version.
"Well, perhaps some lesser programmers have problems with those" and that's the problem ESR is grappling with-- most programmers are lesser programmers. Far too many people who write software shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a computer. ESR's solution to this is a dumb language that prevents code grinders from doing the wrong thing. That's why he's adamantly against C++. He thinks it's too easy for the monkeys he deals with to write reams of trash. What he doesn't realize is that the monkeys he works with are going to write reams of trash no matter what language he gives them.
I get many of those, and I know not to answer them because I don't know anyone who has the same area code and prefix as my cell phone number.
Nope, I'm clean shaved.
You can be snotty about the principles of good software development, but using them I've written thousands upon thousands of lines of code that simply work. Customers don't call to report bugs in code I wrote. QA doesn't file bugs against my code.
The wise programmer is told about Tao and follows it. The average programmer is told about Tao and searches for it. The foolish programmer is told about Tao and laughs at it.
If it were not for laughter, there would be no Tao.
(http://canonical.org/~kragen/tao-of-programming.html)
I certainly don't think programming language doesn't matter. Some languages are simply awful, and those languages tend to be the ones that (in the guise of making it easier to write good code) focus on preventing the programmer from writing bad code (e.g. Basic, Delphi, Java). Any language that takes capability away from the programmer because it might be misused is a bad language. You can still write 'not-bad' code in those languages, it's just not as easy to write great code.
The fundamental thing is that it's the programmer that writes crappy code. If I write bad code, it's not the language's fault, it's mine. A language can hinder me from writing great code; it can not make me write bad code.
"... you have to be very stupid to write bad code in those languages..." So what you're saying is that most Java and C# programmers are very stupid? I can't disagree. Most of the Java and C# (and pascal and VB and php and...) I've ever seen was awful, violating all the principles of good software development. Most of the C, C++, and every other language I've seen was pretty bad too. Most people who write software should not.
I keep hearing this idiotic nonsense repeated ad nauseum in the programming world by morons who think the language is the problem; that making just the right language will make all the bugs go away. It's trivially easy to write readable code in Perl, just as it's trivially easy to write unreadable, unmaintainable spaghetti in Java or C#. It has nothing to do with the syntax of the language. It has everything to do with the person writing the code.
Actually, if all you eat is meat and you cut out (e.g. stop buying) the massive volume of cheap carb crap, you'll save money, won't be hungry much at all, and you'll be a lot healthier.
Have you ever tried to over-eat on fat calories? You should try it some time. You quickly grow full and you just don't want anymore, totally unlike with carbs.
You obviously didn't read it to ask that. He did not in anyway make any such assertion.