>...and the argument that it prevents companies from taking GPL code and putting it in their own proprietary code is utter straw man
Not at all. We've seen the studies that show the main contributors to GPL projects are generally a) Paid, and b) Few in number. GPL3 reduces opportunities to profit, hence GPL3 will reduce paid contributions. So no straw-man here, just a serious threat to your GPL3 code-ecosystem.
Example A: Wheres your GPL3 kernel coming from? HURD? lol.
Look at the popularity of the LGPL, and tell me the non idealistic devs don't prefer a more Free license. Some of the most talented people (example the people beind Boo, or BouncyCastle, or ActiveRecord) choose to use Really Free licenses like Apache and BSD. GPL is for idealists.
The GPL3 still doesnt prevent me storing a signed list of hashes on my device for programs that are allowed to run. I may not be able to distribute the software under the GPL, but nothing can prevent me distributing a hash. Theres nothing in the GPL3 that prevents my mate Bruce from freely distributing GPL3'd software that happens to match that hash.
In fact theres nothing preventing ne distributing my GPL3'd windows driver. Theres nothing stopping Microsoft from considering signing the hash of a certain build. Theres also nothing stopping them distibuting that signature to TPM platforms.
GPL3 is all a big waste of time. Its a bunch of blind people following RMS like hes fkn jesus or something. The man is clearly a nutter. GPL is barely free. It only fits RMS's twisted version of Free. Freedom is not about restricting other people in some crazy scheme to preserve restrictions.
> Interesting that you refer to a (cell)phone that a particular user paid for (either cash outright, or by agreeing to a long-term contract for service with a hefty termination fee) as 'their' (referring to the phone company) phone.
Their network, their rules. Their contract, their rules.
You want on a contract where you are getting a subsidised phone you DO NOT get the right dictate how the device works AFTER you have signed the contract.
Don't like the contract? Negotiate (they'll tell you to fuck off). Still don't like it? Take your hippy ideals and fuck off.
Funnily enough you can buy phones outright from "normal" retailers. These phones are "more free". Unsurprisingly they are also more expensive.
I'm typing now one a Fingerworks Touchstream LP. This is two 6x6 inch multitouch surfaces, with a whole bunch of gestures using many combinations of fingers. Its used as a keyboard and mouse. I can grab and drag windows with bimanual gestures. This is multitouch.
This is the technology Apple bought out, killed, and butchered to put a couple of crappy gestures into their laptops and iphone.:(
Or how about creating obstacles in being able to deal with anyone in the vast majority of people that realise that content has value?
Yes, content has value. Thats why people get paid to make it. Thats why people come up with DRM schemes.
I'm sure you can come up with some idealistic hippie commune ideals where everyone is free and happy, but here in the real world we pay our artists. The people that pay these artists are aware of concepts such as ROI.
In the real world we understand that if we want to sell you a loss leading game console and license it so you only play our games, we are forced to DRM it up the wazoo, otherwise our stock will plummet as the stock of CD-R companies rise. We want to make it inconvenient as hell to hack our ineffective DRM because we can't trust you, the user, to play by the rules.
This society believes in ownership of information.
Don't like it? Start your own. Or if you like, get the numbers to elect someone to make a difference, because until you can you are just like the hippies of the 60s, blindly following the ideals of a long haired scruffy man in sandals. Oh fucking *BAM* triple-ad-homonim combo there.
So before you hit the reply button to point out some niggling flaw in my logic, or to use some flavour of the month "omg strawman" arguments, please consider that the majority slashdot opinion is quite divorced from the majority of societies opinions.
Good news then. Outlook 2007 has it on by default, and I'd assume the MS anti-spam products read it. Only a matter of time before other anti-spam vendors include the support I guess.
MS call it Outlook Postmarking, and it is apparantly "innovative". (Wait are they taking a leaf out of Apple's book here?...)
And most, if not all, are available on Windows. For those not available, I can install VMWare (free) and Debian.
And thats the cincher. Most things that I want to run with performance and hardware acceleration are Windows apps (usually games, but some CAD as well, media centery shit)
Anything I need linux for works fine in a VM (if not better - the VMware drivers are fairly stable, and means less time wasted configuring when I change physical hardware).
I have never, ever, seen a "real" point to dual-booting. VMWare adds maybe 5% overhead (?)
Outlook (and probably other clients) have a feature where you can put a stamp on your message and pay in CPU cycles. Pegs my CPU for about 100ms, so I'd hate to be spamming out billions of them.
Guess its hashing the message, rcpt and timestamp and dropping a few hundred rounds of AES over the hash.
Microsoft aren't selling "Download Credits". They are selling patent licenses for patents that might (Your Interpretation May Vary) otherwise be infringed by the Linux.
I think this needs a car analogy:
If there exists a car, say the Stallman Hippy, which is unique in that when you buy it, you promise that you will only buy petrol from GNUolium stations. You also have to promise that when you rent out the car that the leasee also buys petrol from GNUolium stations. Also if you have Carbon Credits you have to pool these with the Hippy Drivers Club.
The nasty EPA suddenly claim that the Stallman Hippy blows too much hot air. To stop being fined, they say that you need to buy a bunch of Carbon Credits.
Now can someone tell me how the fuck we get from that arrangement to the EPA being legally bound to use only GNUolium fuel?
Christ no! MS is just promising not to sue a bunch of dudes by licensing them a few patents. Those dudes are a bunch of asstards who are also covered by the GPLv3 which says they have to relicense the patents. Guess what? They don't have that right. That means they cannot use the GPLv3 covered software.
This is like claiming if I take some of Microsofts Community Public Licensed crap and link it with some GPL crap that Microsoft has to GPL the aforementioned crap. That crap is a bunch of bullcrap. (I have to GPL it, and I can't, because I don't own it). Similarily with the patents that the distributor (not microsoft) has to sublicense, which they can't, because they are microsofts.
Have you seen the bloody size of Tibet and the huge amount of mineral wealth? Then when you realise it was populated by a bunch of nomad hippies are you even slightly surprised it got annexed?
Fuck. You can't even mention that shit when you've got the US running around the middle east invading fairly "civilised (they got roads and shit)" countries for oil, terrorists and lulz.
Falun Gong is basically the asian equivalent of Scientology. Bunch of nutters.
Any of the real DRM features provided by a TPM setup - such as bus level encryption - are already in your modern chipset / video card and can quite happily AES at full bus speed. The marking "protected pages" is no more overhead than the no-execute bit.
Like another poster in this thread mentioed: DX10 is lighter than DX9. They've stripped out most of the cap bits for one - now a card either supports DX10 or it doesnt (none of this 'find the right texture format' bs - although admittedly I can't think of a single time a modern card didnt support what I wanted to use).
I actually like this brutal rationalization of the APIs that MS is doing. Killing hardware accelerated audio made me happy - gave me hope for the death of EAX and the associated 'playing games in a public toilet' feeling.
DX10 doesnt have "performance". DX10 is an API. You can benchmark API quality by a great many things, but performance is fairly irrelevant when that performance is tied so much to the undelying hardware.
DX10 is a good API if in a couple of years time, the shader models match the industry direction and there isnt a whole bunch of GL_EXT_OBS_ASS_HATTERY_BUF_GAY_PRIMITIVE extensions to make things work. This is likely considering the industry partnership arrangements MS have.
Anandtech can enjoy their cry that their hardware wasnt good enough to make the most of DX10. This is really a good thing for the API, it means that DX10 has some lifetime. A scarier headline would have been "Current Gen Cards Can Max Out What DX10 Is Capable Of". That would be the death of an API...
Someone has run the numbers of the amount of money they are losing due to poor rep and compared it to the cost of extending the warrenty period. They clearly found that extending the warrenty would * make people feel more comfortable about their purchase. * keep some more people with an xbox to buy games.
They aren't doing this because xboxes are failing left right and center. They are doing it because their failure rate is low enough that they know it won't send them broke.
Complexity of a system will increase with its expressiveness. I had a long argument with a mate about this, and it seems to be a basic tenet of information theory.
Bascially with a POSIX system it means you are stuck with munging text pipes...
Christ. Thats more expensive than a Windows licence and a copy of Visual Studio. You could probably use the free express editions of VS and still be fine.
I'm having to make some interoperability samples for a WS-Security web service in Java in Eclipse atm. Its taken days to get my build environment sorted out. Literally took a day to completely implement the server side crap in VS, and I still can only just build the java samples (anything I do dies at runtime).
Seriously theres only so much un-tar.gz, ant, copy, config, hack, paste, patch, hack, un-tar.gz, ant, fix build.xml, ant that I can stand before I would suck gates' cock for a version of VS that lets me dev in java.
"Internet protocol address, the type of operating system, browser and name and version of the software you are using, and the language code of the device where you installed the software."
Aren't they all standard W3C log fields? I know thats just stuff thats included in a standard http GET. This is just the reaction of a large corporate with a paranoid legal department that is likely to be sued by hippies.
Windows Vista will contact Microsoft to get the right hardware drivers, to provide web-based "clip art, templates, training, assistance and Appshelp," to access digital software certificates designed "confirm the identity of Internet users sending X.509 standard encrypted information" and to refresh the catalog with trusted certificate authorities.
Nothing unusual there. Some of the help pages have online content, and Office provides a whole bunch-o-crap not included in the standard install (thank god). Usual x509 assurance stuff, thats really what any OS should be doing. Driver update is nothing new.
Imagine getting legal to handle apt-get: "May get updates applications, configuration or system files. Greenhat Inc may store IP addresses, version information of software downloaded....."
If you want access to protected content, you will also have to let the Windows Media Digital Rights Management talk home.
In further shocking news, Vista has DRM support.
Windows Media Player in Vista for example, will look for codecs, new versions and local online music services.
Shocking stuff.
The Malicious Software Removal tool will report straight to Microsoft with both the findings of your computer scan, but also any potential errors.
Well this may be a little unnecessary, but hardly an invasion of privacy. The MSRT is an optional update anyway. *shrug* I'm not really concerned that MS is collecting stats on how often people get pwned by slammer (hope theyre using long ints).
And.... um Teredo. Well sending your "personal IP address" is kinda part of the protocol and necessary for them to set up a Teredo tunnel.
Then theres a big load'o'fud over the performance metrics. They should run a follow up "Microsoft SQL Server collects data about your instances! Are they spying on you??"
If theres really a concern that a company could potentially use the data they are getting to spy on people they should take a look over at the combination of Google analytics and Google checkout. Using Google products you are pretty much signing your soul over to them - they tend on the side of saying "We will spy on you, but we promised to Do No Evil".
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> ...and the argument that it prevents companies from taking GPL code and putting it in their own proprietary code is utter straw man
Not at all. We've seen the studies that show the main contributors to GPL projects are generally a) Paid, and b) Few in number. GPL3 reduces opportunities to profit, hence GPL3 will reduce paid contributions. So no straw-man here, just a serious threat to your GPL3 code-ecosystem.
Example A: Wheres your GPL3 kernel coming from? HURD? lol.
Look at the popularity of the LGPL, and tell me the non idealistic devs don't prefer a more Free license. Some of the most talented people (example the people beind Boo, or BouncyCastle, or ActiveRecord) choose to use Really Free licenses like Apache and BSD. GPL is for idealists.
The GPL3 still doesnt prevent me storing a signed list of hashes on my device for programs that are allowed to run. I may not be able to distribute the software under the GPL, but nothing can prevent me distributing a hash. Theres nothing in the GPL3 that prevents my mate Bruce from freely distributing GPL3'd software that happens to match that hash.
In fact theres nothing preventing ne distributing my GPL3'd windows driver. Theres nothing stopping Microsoft from considering signing the hash of a certain build. Theres also nothing stopping them distibuting that signature to TPM platforms.
GPL3 is all a big waste of time. Its a bunch of blind people following RMS like hes fkn jesus or something. The man is clearly a nutter. GPL is barely free. It only fits RMS's twisted version of Free. Freedom is not about restricting other people in some crazy scheme to preserve restrictions.
If the kernel was enough of a small part for the OS not to be soley named after it, he would have written his own by now.
Oh, thats right. He tried. HURD is where?
> Interesting that you refer to a (cell)phone that a particular user paid for (either cash outright, or by agreeing to a long-term contract for service with a hefty termination fee) as 'their' (referring to the phone company) phone.
Their network, their rules. Their contract, their rules.
You want on a contract where you are getting a subsidised phone you DO NOT get the right dictate how the device works AFTER you have signed the contract.
Don't like the contract? Negotiate (they'll tell you to fuck off). Still don't like it? Take your hippy ideals and fuck off.
Funnily enough you can buy phones outright from "normal" retailers. These phones are "more free". Unsurprisingly they are also more expensive.
Two-finger tap barely counts as multitouch.
:(
I'm typing now one a Fingerworks Touchstream LP. This is two 6x6 inch multitouch surfaces, with a whole bunch of gestures using many combinations of fingers. Its used as a keyboard and mouse. I can grab and drag windows with bimanual gestures. This is multitouch.
This is the technology Apple bought out, killed, and butchered to put a couple of crappy gestures into their laptops and iphone.
Wikisource is copyleft.
This is for the other 99.99% of content.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/thankyou.aspx?f amilyId=941b3470-3ae9-4aee-8f43-c6bb74cd1466&displ ayLang=en
Well that was bloody difficult.
You can't sledge a company for providing forwards fucking compatibility for their old products, you anonymous asstard.
> Scarey scarey scare.
Or how about creating obstacles in being able to deal with anyone in the vast majority of people that realise that content has value?
Yes, content has value. Thats why people get paid to make it. Thats why people come up with DRM schemes.
I'm sure you can come up with some idealistic hippie commune ideals where everyone is free and happy, but here in the real world we pay our artists. The people that pay these artists are aware of concepts such as ROI.
In the real world we understand that if we want to sell you a loss leading game console and license it so you only play our games, we are forced to DRM it up the wazoo, otherwise our stock will plummet as the stock of CD-R companies rise. We want to make it inconvenient as hell to hack our ineffective DRM because we can't trust you, the user, to play by the rules.
This society believes in ownership of information.
Don't like it? Start your own. Or if you like, get the numbers to elect someone to make a difference, because until you can you are just like the hippies of the 60s, blindly following the ideals of a long haired scruffy man in sandals. Oh fucking *BAM* triple-ad-homonim combo there.
So before you hit the reply button to point out some niggling flaw in my logic, or to use some flavour of the month "omg strawman" arguments, please consider that the majority slashdot opinion is quite divorced from the majority of societies opinions.
> If only somebody would use it...
Good news then. Outlook 2007 has it on by default, and I'd assume the MS anti-spam products read it. Only a matter of time before other anti-spam vendors include the support I guess.
MS call it Outlook Postmarking, and it is apparantly "innovative". (Wait are they taking a leaf out of Apple's book here?...)
And thats the cincher. Most things that I want to run with performance and hardware acceleration are Windows apps (usually games, but some CAD as well, media centery shit)
Anything I need linux for works fine in a VM (if not better - the VMware drivers are fairly stable, and means less time wasted configuring when I change physical hardware).
I have never, ever, seen a "real" point to dual-booting. VMWare adds maybe 5% overhead (?)
Outlook (and probably other clients) have a feature where you can put a stamp on your message and pay in CPU cycles. Pegs my CPU for about 100ms, so I'd hate to be spamming out billions of them.
Guess its hashing the message, rcpt and timestamp and dropping a few hundred rounds of AES over the hash.
Simple and effective.
> What is the typical monitor resolution of a GIMP user?
;)
640x480 VESA due to lack of Free(tm) drivers.
> Is the GIMP used primarily for photo editing or drawing?
Neither.
Many have tried and failed.
Thank you, I'll be here all night
I think this needs a car analogy:
Christ no! MS is just promising not to sue a bunch of dudes by licensing them a few patents. Those dudes are a bunch of asstards who are also covered by the GPLv3 which says they have to relicense the patents. Guess what? They don't have that right. That means they cannot use the GPLv3 covered software.
This is like claiming if I take some of Microsofts Community Public Licensed crap and link it with some GPL crap that Microsoft has to GPL the aforementioned crap. That crap is a bunch of bullcrap. (I have to GPL it, and I can't, because I don't own it). Similarily with the patents that the distributor (not microsoft) has to sublicense, which they can't, because they are microsofts.
US: $214.99
;)
Europe: £184.98 ($371.92)
Yup. The EU sure showed them!
Want to take a bet that MS is expecting to sell more than 3 million (1/2 billion / $150 delta) copies of Vista in Europe?
Heh. I'll take double or nothing on "this is inline with MS's estimates when they got involved in the legal process".
You can tell where north korea starts - its about where the road system starts to suck dick.
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(Road + 4 Lane Highway) -> (Dirt track + 2 lanes crap Bitumen)
hehe
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Have you seen the bloody size of Tibet and the huge amount of mineral wealth? Then when you realise it was populated by a bunch of nomad hippies are you even slightly surprised it got annexed?
Fuck. You can't even mention that shit when you've got the US running around the middle east invading fairly "civilised (they got roads and shit)" countries for oil, terrorists and lulz.
Falun Gong is basically the asian equivalent of Scientology. Bunch of nutters.
Pfft.
Any of the real DRM features provided by a TPM setup - such as bus level encryption - are already in your modern chipset / video card and can quite happily AES at full bus speed. The marking "protected pages" is no more overhead than the no-execute bit.
Like another poster in this thread mentioed: DX10 is lighter than DX9. They've stripped out most of the cap bits for one - now a card either supports DX10 or it doesnt (none of this 'find the right texture format' bs - although admittedly I can't think of a single time a modern card didnt support what I wanted to use).
I actually like this brutal rationalization of the APIs that MS is doing. Killing hardware accelerated audio made me happy - gave me hope for the death of EAX and the associated 'playing games in a public toilet' feeling.
In short:
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Exactly.
DX10 doesnt have "performance". DX10 is an API. You can benchmark API quality by a great many things, but performance is fairly irrelevant when that performance is tied so much to the undelying hardware.
DX10 is a good API if in a couple of years time, the shader models match the industry direction and there isnt a whole bunch of GL_EXT_OBS_ASS_HATTERY_BUF_GAY_PRIMITIVE extensions to make things work. This is likely considering the industry partnership arrangements MS have.
Anandtech can enjoy their cry that their hardware wasnt good enough to make the most of DX10. This is really a good thing for the API, it means that DX10 has some lifetime. A scarier headline would have been "Current Gen Cards Can Max Out What DX10 Is Capable Of". That would be the death of an API...
Sure why not? Theres plenty of years to go around...
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Bravo to a good business decision.
Someone has run the numbers of the amount of money they are losing due to poor rep and compared it to the cost of extending the warrenty period. They clearly found that extending the warrenty would
* make people feel more comfortable about their purchase.
* keep some more people with an xbox to buy games.
They aren't doing this because xboxes are failing left right and center. They are doing it because their failure rate is low enough that they know it won't send them broke.
Complexity of a system will increase with its expressiveness. I had a long argument with a mate about this, and it seems to be a basic tenet of information theory.
Bascially with a POSIX system it means you are stuck with munging text pipes...
Christ. Thats more expensive than a Windows licence and a copy of Visual Studio. You could probably use the free express editions of VS and still be fine.
I'm having to make some interoperability samples for a WS-Security web service in Java in Eclipse atm. Its taken days to get my build environment sorted out. Literally took a day to completely implement the server side crap in VS, and I still can only just build the java samples (anything I do dies at runtime).
Seriously theres only so much un-tar.gz, ant, copy, config, hack, paste, patch, hack, un-tar.gz, ant, fix build.xml, ant that I can stand before I would suck gates' cock for a version of VS that lets me dev in java.
If you read the examples in TFA:
Aren't they all standard W3C log fields? I know thats just stuff thats included in a standard http GET. This is just the reaction of a large corporate with a paranoid legal department that is likely to be sued by hippies.
Nothing unusual there. Some of the help pages have online content, and Office provides a whole bunch-o-crap not included in the standard install (thank god). Usual x509 assurance stuff, thats really what any OS should be doing. Driver update is nothing new.
Imagine getting legal to handle apt-get: "May get updates applications, configuration or system files. Greenhat Inc may store IP addresses, version information of software downloaded....."
In further shocking news, Vista has DRM support.
Shocking stuff.
Well this may be a little unnecessary, but hardly an invasion of privacy. The MSRT is an optional update anyway. *shrug* I'm not really concerned that MS is collecting stats on how often people get pwned by slammer (hope theyre using long ints).
And.... um Teredo. Well sending your "personal IP address" is kinda part of the protocol and necessary for them to set up a Teredo tunnel.
Then theres a big load'o'fud over the performance metrics. They should run a follow up "Microsoft SQL Server collects data about your instances! Are they spying on you??"
If theres really a concern that a company could potentially use the data they are getting to spy on people they should take a look over at the combination of Google analytics and Google checkout. Using Google products you are pretty much signing your soul over to them - they tend on the side of saying "We will spy on you, but we promised to Do No Evil".
my gf is chinese, and she could never stand watching the simpsons. hated it, had to leave the room.
i only found out why a couple of weeks ago, they used to be forced to watch an episode a week in english class at school (and have tests on it).