> unless the laws of physics are much different than we imagine them to be
The whole world is only what we imagine it to be. So, I think both spider-man and iron-man are equally possible. The only problem left is that it's damn hard to get out of this matrix, ya know, coz it's the only thing most of us have ever managed to consciously experience. But it is doable.
> "It is the ability to perceive sound by detecting > vibrations via an organ such as the ear."
It's not a good nor complete definition, IMHO. What if I plug a microphone to my head via some kind of a hypothetical direct brain interface? It will serve as an additional "ear", that's what. But what if instead of plugging a microphone I'd just plug an iPod and play some tunes?
> (..) If whomever is in charge of the simulation doesn't > want to simulate sound waves being generated as a tree > falls, why would they simulate it falling? Might as well > just put it there.
That's true. But it doesn't answer the question, "who is *you*":)
> Sound is, by definition, a bunch of waves in the air.
And how about the definition of hearing?
> They have to simulate it if they don't want us to notice something is wrong.
So as well they can simulate us not noticing anything wrong. Or they can rewind the simulation, change the thing that made us wonder if we're being simulated, and run it again.
>> Let's assume that some "you" will actually hear that sound. >> *Who* is that one who is actually hearing it? > Everything else in the forest.
Gimme an empirical proof || STFU, please? Because what I perceive is the exact opposite.
Hm. But I have no proof either. It's like, one of these things that are too much relying on those senses that are not given to most of the people out there, at least not "out of the box". It's *very* hard to see *anything* if you were born blind, right? And you *do* know that there are really many, many things which we cannot see with eyes nor hear with ears, right?
Disclaimer: I'm not a Christian or anything, I do not belong to any damn church or anything, and I fsck all the religious authorities and everything related to them.
I really wouldn't be so sure. If there's nobody to actually *hear* the sound, is it still a sound, or just a bunch of waves in the air?
If there's nobody who can make an observation of some event, is there any way of proving that that event has occurred? Can you tell if the "big bang" had any sound?
What if what you actually think you observe turns out to be an illusion? What if your whole reality is an illusion that is so good (or you're so used to it) that you couldn't tell what it really is?
What if what we perceive as the reality is actually a simulation, and the guys "outside" are saving resources by not simulating sounds nobody can hear, just like 3D engines do not draw things that the camera can't see?
And one last question... Let's assume that some "you" will actually hear that sound. *Who* is that one who is actually hearing it?
JPEG won't work for steganography BTW... BMP or (afaik) PNG would do...
Hm, that'd be the way to go... Even if the feds knew the "algorithm" for hiding&extracting the stuff in pics, if it'd be additionally encrypted before being hidden, they'll see garbage this way or the other...
D the Programming Language should be very suitable for kernel development (C/C++/Java-like, compiles to machine code, plays nice with asm, has GCC frontend, etc). Some time ago I was even thinking of making a simple bootable piece of D code, at least hello world, but meh, again it turned out I'm too lazy to even start (:
Why? Last time I tried to install Solaris 10, I couldn't do it in graphical mode because it needed at least 400 (not 384, installer said 400) megabytes of RAM. And even with 256 megs the full install (something like 5 GB of stuff on one DVD)... It took around 8 hours. Damnit, it's just a few gigs of data to be copied from a disc to a hard drive, and then (possibly) set up a little... About 8 hours just to copy some data from one place to another. Even after that, Solaris was slow like a... Vista of some kind. Booting the system took 4 or 5 minutes (compared to Linux on the same machine: 30 seconds? Something like that). When I got the DVD burned I was really excited, since I heard many good words about the OS and stuff, but after trying it out I was just... Really disappointed with its hogginess. Not to mention crappy userland (very old Gnome, no VTs, many minor annoyances, the way stuff is organized within the file system is a total mess...). I really see no real gain from choosing Solaris over Linux (except if you just LOVE the CDE).
Rising system requirements isn't progress, unless accompanied by proportional (or at least: any) technological advancement. So, nay, MS is losing again.
So sit where you are, with your own, flawed perception of how your thoughts work, while I will be enjoying the best that my life can possibly give me. It is 100% your choice, as my own choice - the choice to be happy - is mine. HF.
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> No.
Prove me wrong, if you think you can.
> unless the laws of physics are much different than we imagine them to be
The whole world is only what we imagine it to be. So, I think both spider-man and iron-man are equally possible. The only problem left is that it's damn hard to get out of this matrix, ya know, coz it's the only thing most of us have ever managed to consciously experience. But it is doable.
A hurd of teams or a team of hurds?
Mine is longer. And I've started growing a beard recently. Did I win? (:
That goatse will be banned?
It might not be. Iron has a much bigger number than oxygen, yet it isn't making it a better gas for breathing. Wait, it is not even a gas!...
But I'm excited about 115 as well...
LAWL, it's one of their songs :D I've learned it long time ago, and I still enjoy playing it from time to time :)
> "It is the ability to perceive sound by detecting
:)
> vibrations via an organ such as the ear."
It's not a good nor complete definition, IMHO. What if I plug a microphone to my head via some kind of a hypothetical direct brain interface? It will serve as an additional "ear", that's what. But what if instead of plugging a microphone I'd just plug an iPod and play some tunes?
> (..) If whomever is in charge of the simulation doesn't
> want to simulate sound waves being generated as a tree
> falls, why would they simulate it falling? Might as well
> just put it there.
That's true. But it doesn't answer the question, "who is *you*"
In intercal, you insensitive clod...
> Sound is, by definition, a bunch of waves in the air.
And how about the definition of hearing?
> They have to simulate it if they don't want us to notice something is wrong.
So as well they can simulate us not noticing anything wrong. Or they can rewind the simulation, change the thing that made us wonder if we're being simulated, and run it again.
>> Let's assume that some "you" will actually hear that sound.
>> *Who* is that one who is actually hearing it?
> Everything else in the forest.
No, no, no. Read my question again: who is "you"?
> Umm... God doesn't exist.
Gimme an empirical proof || STFU, please? Because what I perceive is the exact opposite.
Hm. But I have no proof either. It's like, one of these things that are too much relying on those senses that are not given to most of the people out there, at least not "out of the box". It's *very* hard to see *anything* if you were born blind, right? And you *do* know that there are really many, many things which we cannot see with eyes nor hear with ears, right?
Disclaimer: I'm not a Christian or anything, I do not belong to any damn church or anything, and I fsck all the religious authorities and everything related to them.
> Of course it bloody well does!
I really wouldn't be so sure. If there's nobody to actually *hear* the sound, is it still a sound, or just a bunch of waves in the air?
If there's nobody who can make an observation of some event, is there any way of proving that that event has occurred? Can you tell if the "big bang" had any sound?
What if what you actually think you observe turns out to be an illusion? What if your whole reality is an illusion that is so good (or you're so used to it) that you couldn't tell what it really is?
What if what we perceive as the reality is actually a simulation, and the guys "outside" are saving resources by not simulating sounds nobody can hear, just like 3D engines do not draw things that the camera can't see?
And one last question... Let's assume that some "you" will actually hear that sound. *Who* is that one who is actually hearing it?
> you'll be impressed at the progress made.
I sure hope so. I'm always happy to use good software.
JPEG won't work for steganography BTW... BMP or (afaik) PNG would do...
Hm, that'd be the way to go... Even if the feds knew the "algorithm" for hiding&extracting the stuff in pics, if it'd be additionally encrypted before being hidden, they'll see garbage this way or the other...
D the Programming Language should be very suitable for kernel development (C/C++/Java-like, compiles to machine code, plays nice with asm, has GCC frontend, etc). Some time ago I was even thinking of making a simple bootable piece of D code, at least hello world, but meh, again it turned out I'm too lazy to even start (:
Maybe you and I just have incompatible senses of humor. This isn't news, I'm an odd person.
If they really are dying... I'd say only one thing:
FINALLY!
Why? Last time I tried to install Solaris 10, I couldn't do it in graphical mode because it needed at least 400 (not 384, installer said 400) megabytes of RAM. And even with 256 megs the full install (something like 5 GB of stuff on one DVD)... It took around 8 hours. Damnit, it's just a few gigs of data to be copied from a disc to a hard drive, and then (possibly) set up a little... About 8 hours just to copy some data from one place to another. Even after that, Solaris was slow like a... Vista of some kind. Booting the system took 4 or 5 minutes (compared to Linux on the same machine: 30 seconds? Something like that). When I got the DVD burned I was really excited, since I heard many good words about the OS and stuff, but after trying it out I was just... Really disappointed with its hogginess. Not to mention crappy userland (very old Gnome, no VTs, many minor annoyances, the way stuff is organized within the file system is a total mess...). I really see no real gain from choosing Solaris over Linux (except if you just LOVE the CDE).
OTOH, short uptimes are not KRIEG!
that's 22 days, full moon cycle is ~28 days dude.
Rising system requirements isn't progress, unless accompanied by proportional (or at least: any) technological advancement. So, nay, MS is losing again.
Doesn't work with >= 2.0.0.13 ;( or I rly need to check out the updates
MS, with AT&T's help, has made a full circle then. One app at a time? Feels like DOS.
That's why I prefer a spiral. You also keep coming back, but you're still progressing, since with each turn you're further than you were before.
So sit where you are, with your own, flawed perception of how your thoughts work, while I will be enjoying the best that my life can possibly give me. It is 100% your choice, as my own choice - the choice to be happy - is mine. HF.
I haven't been using windows for two years now, but AFAIR it had very lame support for wireless stuff OOB.