Seeing as how more consumer video cards are coming with 32 and 64 megs of ram on board, is there anyway to use this as auxillary ram? I know the interface to it would be much slower than main memory, but it would still be magnitudes faster than a hard disk. If you could make it a ram drive, it could be a virtual swap drive that would run a heck of a lot faster than your hard disk. Seems like it would be a neat project.
I played the trombone from 6th through 12th grade. Granted I was no master, but I was around some pretty good musicians. I've never heard this before. I was taught that they were the same. Of course I didn't play D^b or C# that often either.
Good to see that your elitest attitude towards people who happen to use Windows carries over to the rest of your life.
And I quote from his webpage that is shown to MS OS users...ohh sorry...MS OS lusers.
"And NEVER, NEVER eat anything but McDonalds food! Everything else is too high-quality to be tolerated by you, if you can use Windoze!!! "
LOL.
Many people pick the OS system which lets them do what they like best, instead of liking best what their OS let's them do. *Gasp* some people use Windows in addition to Linux or FreeBSD or whatever. Good think you are blocking all those assholes from seeing your webpage.
Everytime I walk into a major chain store such as Best Buy, I'm amazed how many AMD-based computers they have. Whether they are Athlon based desktops or K6-2 based laptops, I believe the majority on display are AMD. I agree that Intel has done a great job making their name a household one,but it doesn't seem like people are that concerned with Intel inside. In fact I bet if AMD had done a better job with the K5 and original K6 (in design and manufacturing) their market share would be even bigger right now. Seems like many don't have brand loyalty to Intel at all.
I was very much a team fortress addict back in the day. Have you ever played Starsiege Tribes? It has excellent gameplay. IMHO, it takes the best aspects of teamfortress and adds some neat twists. It's windows only tho, so if you are a linux quaker, you are sol.
It must be megabit. My 128 Meg DIMM has 16 chips on it. 16x64 Mbit = 128 Megabytes. I doubt 64 Megabyte chips are in production. We should have gigabyte dimms right now if they were.
I love the scene where the comic book guy gets thrown out of the movie theatre. I can't remember which episode that was though. Maybe the one with Mel Gibson???
Not to be argumentative, but to just present a counterpoint:
FSAA works out of the box. To me that is a huge feature. It will work on every single game you have, if I understand correctly. To me that is a huge benefit.
If I bought a GF or GF2 and brought it home tonight and plugged it in, I don't see the benefit I would get from T&L. I would get more fps in Quake3, but other than that... Maybe some games that support it have come out and I missed it.
I have to agree, those screenshots you linked to are quite impressive. They are breath taking. Although if the scene were antialiased it would look even better;-)
I think both cards are reasonable choices for gamers.
Nothing I've seen indicates that newer celerons and newer P3s perform the same for a given clock speed. This used to be the case. For example, I have a celeron 300a overclocked to 450. The performance is similar to P2 450 and a P3 450 (the older flavor of P3 that had 512k off-die cache) for most applications.
The newer P3s have 256k on-die cache that makes the chip much faster than the old P3s. The newer celerons are the same, but with half of the L2 cache disabled. The benchmarks I've seen have shown the new celeron lagging considerably behind a new P3 with the same clock. I think the days of celerons offering the same performance as a P3 are over.
Two notes: I'm basing this on my memory of reviews. If someone knows better please correct me (I know, I know, it's tough to find people willing to at Slashdot). Also I wonder if the celerons aren't slower than the P3s because the L2 cache's bandwidth is halved. I'm no expert, but memory systems can use interleaving similar to RAID striping on hard drives. Maybe when Intel chopped the L2 cache in half (really just a crippled coppermine P3) they halved bandwidth too.
Well considering that Slashdot makes no attempt to verify an author's authenticity or discourage people from pretending to post as Cmdr Taco or Hemos...Maybe they wouldn't do anything...
A friend of mine once told me about her travels to Europe. She had the oppurtunity to talk and interact with a good number of Germans and other Europeans. The biggest difference that she couldn't get over? Europeans do not value their freedom like we do in the US. I'm not sure what to think about that, other than you seem not to value freedom like we do.
Your accusation that we should be punishing and locking up lowlifes who spew racist garbage, while the majority of Europe let Milosevicz go unchecked is humorous.
let's recap: U.S: let people speak freely. take action against those who kill based on race.
Europe: punish those who speak poorly. little action against ruthless leader ethnic cleansing.
I am not saying that the US is the protector of moral fortitude around the world. That is far from true. I agree that we have problems. I just had to rant a little after your hypocrisy remark.
"The belief that other people are lesser than you because God said so, borders on schizophrenia. "
That sounds kind of nice, until you realize that this is what people all over the world think and have throughout history. It's not schizophrenia, it's human nature.
If you want me to believe that people in France are different, I'm sorry. I'm not convinced.
What version of winzip are you using? Does your exe file actually extract the pdf file successfully? I extracted it without any trouble at all using winzip.
Ignorance of the laws is of course no excuse for breaking them. Never has been, never will be.
That's part of the problem with eula and such is there doesn't seem to be a good analogue of the situation for joe consumer to understand.
What I find interesting is that no software company (that i know of) has taken steps to actually make people enter into a contract when buying their software. Would it be so hard to actually get people to sign a contract when they purchase software? Or could it be that joe consumer wouldn't go for this, recognizing it for the bs that it is...
They are just trying to slide one in the back door with these eula and such without joe consumer noticing or realizing.
I agree nuclear power is not perfect. However, neither is burning coal. Since you are so opposed to nuclear power, maybe you could enlighten us to what we should be doing instead to generate electricity?
Maybe if the *perfect* solution doesn't come along, we should just use the *best* one.
"But personally, I like having having applications with some power, and are not stripped down to the lowest common denominator of user."
Let me get this straight, this is your argument for using windows and outlook over linux? I must have missed something.
disclaimer: I dualboot windows and linux and often use windows out of laziness because I'm already in Windows and it doesn't suck badly enough for what I use it for to warrant rebooting into linux.
"Eventually Moore's Law will peter out. Then producing a computer will be far and above more expensive "
Why? Proof?
This statement makes no sense. Sure the the pricing structure currently used won't work anymore, but why would chips suddenly become more expensive?
I can buy an ethernet card for 20 bucks. There is nothing like Moore's law (at least if there is, it isn't a driving force like Moore's is for processors) for ethernet card speed, yet somehow they are still affordable.
Processors would become a commodity. Intel, AMD, Motorola, IBM, or whoever would continue to make them and sell them.
"The Voodoo 4 4500 card has one processor, and will only perform like existing Voodoo 3 cards. "
The Voodoo 4 4500 will be a good bit faster than Voodoo 3 3000. The Mtexel fillrate is the same, but the pixel fillrate is double. Even in games that use multitexturing, my understanding is that there are parts of the scene (sky) that may not use multitexturing. So a card that can do two pixels per clock (Voodoo 4, not a Voodoo 3) will render that part of the scene more quickly. Also, I read in one of the 3dfx interviews that other parts of the chip have been tweaked out to give the V4 double the fps as the V3. Take it for what's it's worth, but I think the V4 will be a bit faster than a V3.
I believe that framebuffer is not duplicated between the two chips, but textures are. So if each chip is using 8 megs of frame buffer + 24 megs of textures, the effective memory used is 40 megabytes.
Just because textures are duplicated doesn't mean that the memory is just wasted. Memory bandwidth is doubled, as each chip can access the textures it needs independently and then use an sli technique to integrate both chips into one output.
I believe the GeForce 2, whose specs are rumored, is bandwidth limitted. Basically the chip itself is incredibly fast, but will be severely hampered until faster (and more expensive) memory technology appears on the market.
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Seeing as how more consumer video cards are coming with 32 and 64 megs of ram on board, is there anyway to use this as auxillary ram? I know the interface to it would be much slower than main memory, but it would still be magnitudes faster than a hard disk. If you could make it a ram drive, it could be a virtual swap drive that would run a heck of a lot faster than your hard disk. Seems like it would be a neat project.
I played the trombone from 6th through 12th grade. Granted I was no master, but I was around some pretty good musicians. I've never heard this before. I was taught that they were the same. Of course I didn't play D^b or C# that often either.
Good to see that your elitest attitude towards people who happen to use Windows carries over to the rest of your life.
And I quote from his webpage that is shown to MS OS users...ohh sorry...MS OS lusers.
"And NEVER, NEVER eat anything but McDonalds food! Everything else is too high-quality to be tolerated by you, if you can use Windoze!!! "
LOL.
Many people pick the OS system which lets them do what they like best, instead of liking best what their OS let's them do. *Gasp* some people use Windows in addition to Linux or FreeBSD or whatever. Good think you are blocking all those assholes from seeing your webpage.
Everytime I walk into a major chain store such as Best Buy, I'm amazed how many AMD-based computers they have. Whether they are Athlon based desktops or K6-2 based laptops, I believe the majority on display are AMD. I agree that Intel has done a great job making their name a household one,but it doesn't seem like people are that concerned with Intel inside. In fact I bet if AMD had done a better job with the K5 and original K6 (in design and manufacturing) their market share would be even bigger right now. Seems like many don't have brand loyalty to Intel at all.
self interest
I was very much a team fortress addict back in the day. Have you ever played Starsiege Tribes? It has excellent gameplay. IMHO, it takes the best aspects of teamfortress and adds some neat twists. It's windows only tho, so if you are a linux quaker, you are sol.
Gas prices are double? Not here in Indiana. Last I bought gas I paid around 1.60 for gas.
It must be megabit. My 128 Meg DIMM has 16 chips on it. 16x64 Mbit = 128 Megabytes. I doubt 64 Megabyte chips are in production. We should have gigabyte dimms right now if they were.
I love the scene where the comic book guy gets thrown out of the movie theatre. I can't remember which episode that was though. Maybe the one with Mel Gibson???
wow, a first post that doesn't say first post and has a +4 score!
Not to be argumentative, but to just present a counterpoint:
;-)
FSAA works out of the box. To me that is a huge feature. It will work on every single game you have, if I understand correctly. To me that is a huge benefit.
If I bought a GF or GF2 and brought it home tonight and plugged it in, I don't see the benefit I would get from T&L. I would get more fps in Quake3, but other than that... Maybe some games that support it have come out and I missed it.
I have to agree, those screenshots you linked to are quite impressive. They are breath taking. Although if the scene were antialiased it would look even better
I think both cards are reasonable choices for gamers.
neat address. i never knew you could write an ip address straight up as a decimal number.
normal ip: 198.186.203.20
198*256^3 + 186*256^2 + 203*256^1 + 203*256^0 =
3334130452
Just a minor nitpick, I think Xeon's are used in some high-end personal workstations.
Nothing I've seen indicates that newer celerons and newer P3s perform the same for a given clock speed. This used to be the case. For example, I have a celeron 300a overclocked to 450. The performance is similar to P2 450 and a P3 450 (the older flavor of P3 that had 512k off-die cache) for most applications.
The newer P3s have 256k on-die cache that makes the chip much faster than the old P3s. The newer celerons are the same, but with half of the L2 cache disabled. The benchmarks I've seen have shown the new celeron lagging considerably behind a new P3 with the same clock. I think the days of celerons offering the same performance as a P3 are over.
Two notes: I'm basing this on my memory of reviews. If someone knows better please correct me (I know, I know, it's tough to find people willing to at Slashdot). Also I wonder if the celerons aren't slower than the P3s because the L2 cache's bandwidth is halved. I'm no expert, but memory systems can use interleaving similar to RAID striping on hard drives. Maybe when Intel chopped the L2 cache in half (really just a crippled coppermine P3) they halved bandwidth too.
Well considering that Slashdot makes no attempt to verify an author's authenticity or discourage people from pretending to post as Cmdr Taco or Hemos...Maybe they wouldn't do anything...
A friend of mine once told me about her travels to Europe. She had the oppurtunity to talk and interact with a good number of Germans and other Europeans. The biggest difference that she couldn't get over? Europeans do not value their freedom like we do in the US. I'm not sure what to think about that, other than you seem not to value freedom like we do.
Your accusation that we should be punishing and locking up lowlifes who spew racist garbage, while the majority of Europe let Milosevicz go unchecked is humorous.
let's recap:
U.S: let people speak freely. take action against those who kill based on race.
Europe: punish those who speak poorly. little action against ruthless leader ethnic cleansing.
I am not saying that the US is the protector of moral fortitude around the world. That is far from true. I agree that we have problems. I just had to rant a little after your hypocrisy remark.
"The belief that other people are lesser than you because God said so, borders on schizophrenia. "
That sounds kind of nice, until you realize that this is what people all over the world think and have throughout history. It's not schizophrenia, it's human nature.
If you want me to believe that people in France are different, I'm sorry. I'm not convinced.
What version of winzip are you using? Does your exe file actually extract the pdf file successfully? I extracted it without any trouble at all using winzip.
Ignorance of the laws is of course no excuse for breaking them. Never has been, never will be.
That's part of the problem with eula and such is there doesn't seem to be a good analogue of the situation for joe consumer to understand.
What I find interesting is that no software company (that i know of) has taken steps to actually make people enter into a contract when buying their software. Would it be so hard to actually get people to sign a contract when they purchase software? Or could it be that joe consumer wouldn't go for this, recognizing it for the bs that it is...
They are just trying to slide one in the back door with these eula and such without joe consumer noticing or realizing.
lol, this is the first on topic post i've seen!
I agree nuclear power is not perfect. However, neither is burning coal. Since you are so opposed to nuclear power, maybe you could enlighten us to what we should be doing instead to generate electricity?
Maybe if the *perfect* solution doesn't come along, we should just use the *best* one.
"But personally, I like having having applications with some power, and are not stripped down to the lowest common denominator of user."
Let me get this straight, this is your argument for using windows and outlook over linux? I must have missed something.
disclaimer: I dualboot windows and linux and often use windows out of laziness because I'm already in Windows and it doesn't suck badly enough for what I use it for to warrant rebooting into linux.
"Eventually Moore's Law will peter out. Then producing a computer will be far and above more expensive "
Why? Proof?
This statement makes no sense. Sure the the pricing structure currently used won't work anymore, but why would chips suddenly become more expensive?
I can buy an ethernet card for 20 bucks. There is nothing like Moore's law (at least if there is, it isn't a driving force like Moore's is for processors) for ethernet card speed, yet somehow they are still affordable.
Processors would become a commodity. Intel, AMD, Motorola, IBM, or whoever would continue to make them and sell them.
"The Voodoo 4 4500 card has one processor, and will only perform like existing Voodoo 3 cards. "
The Voodoo 4 4500 will be a good bit faster than Voodoo 3 3000. The Mtexel fillrate is the same, but the pixel fillrate is double. Even in games that use multitexturing, my understanding is that there are parts of the scene (sky) that may not use multitexturing. So a card that can do two pixels per clock (Voodoo 4, not a Voodoo 3) will render that part of the scene more quickly. Also, I read in one of the 3dfx interviews that other parts of the chip have been tweaked out to give the V4 double the fps as the V3. Take it for what's it's worth, but I think the V4 will be a bit faster than a V3.
I believe that framebuffer is not duplicated between the two chips, but textures are. So if each chip is using 8 megs of frame buffer + 24 megs of textures, the effective memory used is 40 megabytes.
Just because textures are duplicated doesn't mean that the memory is just wasted. Memory bandwidth is doubled, as each chip can access the textures it needs independently and then use an sli technique to integrate both chips into one output.
I believe the GeForce 2, whose specs are rumored, is bandwidth limitted. Basically the chip itself is incredibly fast, but will be severely hampered until faster (and more expensive) memory technology appears on the market.