But then, a couple of months ago, they had another discussion about a pre-teen kid esperienced with first-person
shooters, and his first experience with shooting a real handgun. The adult observer commented on how steady his
hand was, how careful his eyes, how his hesitation at shooting a target was nonexistent -- and then pointed out that
these games are so good at training individuals to use real weapons that the Army now uses the same technology
toward the same goal.
So he didn't hesitate to shoot a target? Oh, the humanity!
He knew how to use a handgun properly, and had a steady aim? Bah, we need uninformed, uncoordinated individuals in our society.
"A well-regulate militia, being necessary to the security of a free State..." The military uses games to train soldiers in the use of firearms, not in the desensitizing of murder (excuse me, "war"). I don't see the problem with having citizens who know how to use and *respect* firearms. I have a problem with a government that thinks we're all too simple-minded to handle complicated stuff. 'Course, we *do* still have an electoral college instead of real votes, and we *did* end up with bush/gore as our 2 best presidential cantidates, so maybe we are too simple-minded...:)
I should really pay more attantion to "ask slashdot"
Anyway, I'm presently enrolled in the CS program through Franklin University. Their program is known as the "community college alliance program", wherin you take the required basic classes at your local comunity college, and then finish up the regionaly accredited degree through Franklin. The courses are entirely internet delivered, aside forom the tests which you take wherever you can find someone to proctor them.
Note that I mentioned "regionally accredited". There are some schools (a lot of them) that offer remote classes, but aren't accredited. Essentially, that means that their degeee means Jack Sh*t. Accredited school have to operate for like 7 years before they can apply for accreditation, and they have to meet some standards. Good employers know that, and post-grad schools know that (like the U oc IL's IMCS program - Internet Masters in Computer Science).
Having been enrolled in the CS program at the University of Illinois for 3 years (the highly regarded engineering one, not the crap LAS one) before moving on, I can tell you that the Franklin courses are generally better for someone who learns better by being presented with information then learning it. For those who like to be presented with busy work and having inaccessable instructors in a classroom environment that is generally pissed off because champaign/urbana isn't chicago... Whoa, off on a rant there.
Anyway, I've had good luck with franklin, and bad luck with UIUC. Look into it. It costs less than U of Phoenix, and they offer a real CS program that's not a MIS degree (basic CS for managers). The university of Maryland was the only other school I could find that was accredited and offerd a CS degree when I was searching, and they cost a few times franklin's rate (and would require me to take a lot more classes that I've already done).
Feel free to contact me if you wanna know more. I did a lot of research on thes schools before i chose one that was platform agnostic in their course delivery - 'cause I'm not gonna install windows just to go to school.:)
A method of allowing ease of scrolling without adding additional wheels to a standard mouse.
A common task involved with computer use is scrolling, as evidenced by the presence of a "wheel" or "wheels" on several models of modern mouse. This proposal suggests that a button be placed on each of the right and left sides of the mouse, or in another convenient location. The buttons, when depressed, will convert the motion of said mouse into horizontal and vertical scrolling. This support can be a mostly hardware solution, as it temporarily disables the X and Y axis motion of the mouse, replacing those signals with buttons 4,5,6,and 7 (assuming 3 standard buttons). Obviously, the drivers for said mouse will need to support input for 7 buttons. As "wheel" mice are common, drivers for already implemented mousing devices can be reused with this mouse, providing maximum backward compatability. For example, drivers and applications that only support a "vertical scrolling wheel" will already seamlessly ignore the additional scrolling direction.
End users will benefit by not accidentally moving the mouse while attempting to scroll through long pages. Application designers will benefit by not having to worry about additional mouse motion events while scrolling is occuring, reducing I/O overhead. Those with reduced finger motion who are unable to use a standard mouse wheel due to the range of motion required will benefit from merely having to depress the modifier buttons. I will benefit by gaining money if the moderators read down this far.
I'm gonna have to look for prior art now...
--Danny
Well, configuration's just a little more invovled than that (not much), but after evaluating IMHO and IMP for deployment to a 5,000 user network, we decided to go with IMP because it looks a little more professional, and because it runs with php as the backend, making it easier for us to modify than IMHO (which uses pike/RXML).
Personally, I'll agree that IMP is the way to go for IMAP clients. I don't know about web-POP clients, as POP was never an option for us. That web-mail directory link someone posted earlier is a really good one, and is where I found most of the products that we looked at...
...Someone looking at Slashdot for the first time would think that to Nerds, the stuff that matters is constantly whining about Microsoft and how evil they are. We've discussed things just like this over and over again...
Someone just joining wouldn't know that we've discussed this over and over again, and people that have been around for a while generally have learned how to ignore stories that they don't like.
<personal comment>Based on your comment (and the high user number), I guess you haven't learned to ignore yet. Don't worry, enlightenment will come some day...
If it helps, look through the BLO pages. They're funny...:)
How it's diffence from ipchains or ipfilter please tell me!!
ipchains / ipfilter aren't "patent pending".:)
Actually, after reading the request, it sounds like they're trying to patent the use of NAT for security. They're not doing anything special, they've no special formula, they're just describing the "use" of ipfwadm that's been on my 486 DX4/120 with a modem since I bought it with the exact purpose of providing security and connection sharing about 4 years ago.
Hey, maybe I should file a patent for "connection sharing through NAT"...
One of the problems with RPM is that they arean't always relocatable. The packager has to give you the option for that to work. Now I don't know whether or not that works with quake, but if you take enlightenment as an example, it isn't relocatable.
Actually, there's a -badreloc switch that allows
you to use "bad" relocations. I used that a lot
in an automated installer to relocate stuff that I didn't want installed to a networked trash folder. That way I could nfs mount things like/usr on a lab full of machines - some of which didn't have enough room locally for the complete SuSE install I was doing - without rpm complaining about not being able to write to a (RO) share. I should prolly put that script up on the web somewhere - kickstart's got nothing on my install script...:)
The hard drive in my car's MP3 player has been there through somre relaitvely "extreme" trips off road, and it's still just fine. I mounted it so the platters are rotating in a direction mutually perpendicular to the direction of travel and teh ground. That means that most of the shock it absorbs is parallel to the platters, and thus minimizes the risk of head slap.
I really need to get the pictures of my player up on my site, and I should really get the customized distribution (drives a matrix orbital LCD, controlled by a keypad, I'm working on IR, boots in about 15 seconds on the socket 7 platform it's in now, and generally has worked great for about a year). <plug>:)
You don't need a chart - you look at the kernel version. If the distro doesn't list a kernel version, don't buy it. If it does, compare that. You want the second number to be even, such as 2.2.16 or 2.4.1 or something like that. One can then assume that the rest of the software is current as of whenever the kernel was current.
Since the kernel's usually about a month behind, the rest of the software will usually have updates similarly aged, with a good vendor providing patches when neccesary.
And thanks to the "efforts" of system administrators who would rather spend their time playing Quake than downloading the latest patches and bug-fixes these exploits put thousands of sites that rely on open source software at risk
Thus, OSS is not to blame, but lazy sys admins. If the admin isn't gonna pay attention to bugfixes, then he should go with an environment where bugfixes aren't released, thus allowing him to shift the blame to some unresponsive vendor.
Personally, I prefer to take the blame for things that are my responsibility. If there's a problem with my software, then I first look for a fix (which usually already exists), or I [try to] fix it myself. That's what I get paid to do, so that's what I do.
And no, I'm not exclsively responsible for OSS platforms - but not suprisingly, they're the ones that are easier to reliably secure...
traceroute to poptart.home.net (24.0.26.112), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 207.56.140.249 (207.56.140.249) 17 ms 6 ms 12 ms 2 d1-0-4.a01.chmpil01.us.ra.verio.net (131.103.180.17) 5 ms 35 ms 18 ms 3 d3-12-0-0.a01.chcgil05.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.50.73) 34 ms 13 ms 9 ms 4 d3-4-1.r00.chcgil01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.16.109) 34 ms 12 ms 29 ms 5 athome.p1-2-1-1.r01.chcgil01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.9.94) 19 ms 9 ms 11 ms 6 c1-pos0-0.lnmtco1.home.net (24.7.65.150) 42 ms 27 ms 30 ms 7 c1-pos10-0.snjsca1.home.net (24.7.65.141) 69 ms 108 ms 71 ms 8 bb3-pos3-0.rdc1.sfba.home.net (24.7.74.62) 68 ms 82 ms 81 ms 9 172.16.4.5 (172.16.4.5) 78 ms 70 ms 73 ms 10 10.0.232.25 (10.0.232.25) 73 ms 72 ms 72 ms 11 fep1.excitehome.net (24.0.26.112) 76 ms * 115 ms
10.0.what? From outside? Mmmm, bad. What about just home.com?
traceroute to home.com (199.172.150.102), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 207.56.140.249 (207.56.140.249) 18 ms 6 ms 5 ms 2 d1-0-4.a01.chmpil01.us.ra.verio.net (131.103.180.17) 18 ms 12 ms 5 ms 3 d3-12-0-0.a01.chcgil05.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.50.73) 21 ms 13 ms 7 ms 4 d3-4-0.r00.chcgil01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.16.77) 16 ms 11 ms 27 ms 5 p4-6-0-0.r01.chcgil01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.254) 23 ms 10 ms 7 ms 6 p1-2-0.r00.snjsca03.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.45) 68 ms 82 ms 70 ms 7 p4-0-3.r05.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.73) 69 ms 71 ms 69 ms 8 ge-5-0-0.a02.plalca01.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.29.34) 76 ms 72 ms 82 ms 9 140.174.166.74 (140.174.166.74) 72 ms 72 ms 72 ms 10 192.168.249.11 (192.168.249.11) 91 ms 71 ms 71 ms 11 192.168.251.4 (192.168.251.4) 102 ms 71 ms 80 ms 12 199.172.150.100 (199.172.150.100) 71 ms 82 ms 81 ms
also bad. I'm not real happy about that, as I actually use 192.168.* internally...
Oops, I did forget insurance ($300/year). No tolls for me, though... I'm certainly glad to know that mass transit really is cheaper than a car. I couldn't see *any* reason for it otherwise.:)
I still think that there's a tighter community in my ~1500 person town than Brooklyn - but then, that's as difficult for me to prove as it is for you, neither of us having lived in the other's home town for nearly long enough to make an accurate judgement... I'll give you "most tight-knit relative to size", but I'm sure as you move farther south (farther than I am, certainly) and more of the town ends up related, you'll find a tighter-knit community, though.;)
you need your car? cause i don't own one. it saves me on the order of $10k a year, it's good for the environemnt, and it builds community.
I'm guessing that $10K is a bit of an overstatement, as I own a large, not-so-efficient car. Including the purchase price of the car ($300 - admittedly a good deal), engine parts for the rebuild (about $500), bi-monthly oil change (5 quarts of oil and a filter, about $12x12= $144), and roughly 20 gallons of gas a week ($1.70/gal x 20 gallons x 52 weeks = $1768), I've spent about $2712. You wouldn't need to buy shiny new wheels and tires (cost me around $500) or chrome engine dress-up parts (another $150)...
That still leaves about 7 grand that *I* saved over your mass transit. Your train apperantly sucks arse compared to my car. Next year I won't have to buy a new car or rebuild the engine, so I'll save even *more* money compares to your train. On top of all that, I'll bet that the small town that I live in has a *stronger* sense of community than your big ol' impersonal city (where I lived for several years before moving), and the only busses here are for the school kids.
There's a reason why the front windshild of cars are not allowed to be tinted. Imagine if I could drive around town and run over old ladies with there being no way for me to be discoverd?
No, what you're talking about is license plates - that's how you're discovered. Window tint would just make it harder for you to see the old ladies. Wear some glasses ala Clark Kent, and take off your license plates. Maybe stop at the car wash on the way home to wipe off the mess.
You're right about non-traceability being bad, though. I reject traffic coming to my machines if I can't tell who it's coming from in every case that it's possible. I'm not doing anything malicious with anyone's info, and the only reason to hide from me is if you're doing something you don't want me to find out about. Well, I'd better be able to find out if my equipment's being used to do it...
Maybe if it was an SSL http interface to linuxconf, that would be something... just so you could administer your machine from a web cafe, if for some reason you felt a need to do so.:)
webmin, which I use almost as much as a text editor, supports https. It's cooler than linuxconf too... http://www.webmin.com/webmin/ I'm suprised it's not mentioned anywhere else here...
I've been looking for a book with an in-depth discussion of OO under Perl (instead fo a tacked-on chapter that reflects the "tacked-on" opinion of the author). It's nice to see someone wrote one for me.:)
According to the page, in big ol' blue letters on teh one linked to from the article, "Compiles on...MacOS". That prolly means "doesn't adhere to MacOS look-n-feel guidlines" as well, but eh, whddya gonna do?:)
Slashdot Mirror
So he didn't hesitate to shoot a target? Oh, the humanity!
He knew how to use a handgun properly, and had a steady aim? Bah, we need uninformed, uncoordinated individuals in our society.
"A well-regulate militia, being necessary to the security of a free State..." The military uses games to train soldiers in the use of firearms, not in the desensitizing of murder (excuse me, "war"). I don't see the problem with having citizens who know how to use and *respect* firearms. I have a problem with a government that thinks we're all too simple-minded to handle complicated stuff. 'Course, we *do* still have an electoral college instead of real votes, and we *did* end up with bush/gore as our 2 best presidential cantidates, so maybe we are too simple-minded... :)
<rant>
Anyway, I'm presently enrolled in the CS program through Franklin University. Their program is known as the "community college alliance program", wherin you take the required basic classes at your local comunity college, and then finish up the regionaly accredited degree through Franklin. The courses are entirely internet delivered, aside forom the tests which you take wherever you can find someone to proctor them.
Note that I mentioned "regionally accredited". There are some schools (a lot of them) that offer remote classes, but aren't accredited. Essentially, that means that their degeee means Jack Sh*t. Accredited school have to operate for like 7 years before they can apply for accreditation, and they have to meet some standards. Good employers know that, and post-grad schools know that (like the U oc IL's IMCS program - Internet Masters in Computer Science).
Having been enrolled in the CS program at the University of Illinois for 3 years (the highly regarded engineering one, not the crap LAS one) before moving on, I can tell you that the Franklin courses are generally better for someone who learns better by being presented with information then learning it. For those who like to be presented with busy work and having inaccessable instructors in a classroom environment that is generally pissed off because champaign/urbana isn't chicago... Whoa, off on a rant there.
Anyway, I've had good luck with franklin, and bad luck with UIUC. Look into it. It costs less than U of Phoenix, and they offer a real CS program that's not a MIS degree (basic CS for managers). The university of Maryland was the only other school I could find that was accredited and offerd a CS degree when I was searching, and they cost a few times franklin's rate (and would require me to take a lot more classes that I've already done).
Feel free to contact me if you wanna know more. I did a lot of research on thes schools before i chose one that was platform agnostic in their course delivery - 'cause I'm not gonna install windows just to go to school. :)
--Danny
Wasn't Ave Ventura one of the songs in the church songbook? "Ave, ave, ave Ventura..."
A common task involved with computer use is scrolling, as evidenced by the presence of a "wheel" or "wheels" on several models of modern mouse. This proposal suggests that a button be placed on each of the right and left sides of the mouse, or in another convenient location. The buttons, when depressed, will convert the motion of said mouse into horizontal and vertical scrolling. This support can be a mostly hardware solution, as it temporarily disables the X and Y axis motion of the mouse, replacing those signals with buttons 4,5,6,and 7 (assuming 3 standard buttons). Obviously, the drivers for said mouse will need to support input for 7 buttons. As "wheel" mice are common, drivers for already implemented mousing devices can be reused with this mouse, providing maximum backward compatability. For example, drivers and applications that only support a "vertical scrolling wheel" will already seamlessly ignore the additional scrolling direction.
End users will benefit by not accidentally moving the mouse while attempting to scroll through long pages. Application designers will benefit by not having to worry about additional mouse motion events while scrolling is occuring, reducing I/O overhead. Those with reduced finger motion who are unable to use a standard mouse wheel due to the range of motion required will benefit from merely having to depress the modifier buttons. I will benefit by gaining money if the moderators read down this far.
I'm gonna have to look for prior art now...
--Danny
Personally, I'll agree that IMP is the way to go for IMAP clients. I don't know about web-POP clients, as POP was never an option for us. That web-mail directory link someone posted earlier is a really good one, and is where I found most of the products that we looked at...
Someone just joining wouldn't know that we've discussed this over and over again, and people that have been around for a while generally have learned how to ignore stories that they don't like.
<personal comment>Based on your comment (and the high user number), I guess you haven't learned to ignore yet. Don't worry, enlightenment will come some day...
If it helps, look through the BLO pages. They're funny... :)
ipchains / ipfilter aren't "patent pending". :)
Actually, after reading the request, it sounds like they're trying to patent the use of NAT for security. They're not doing anything special, they've no special formula, they're just describing the "use" of ipfwadm that's been on my 486 DX4/120 with a modem since I bought it with the exact purpose of providing security and connection sharing about 4 years ago.
Hey, maybe I should file a patent for "connection sharing through NAT"...
http://www.rangerstation.com/s cripts/episode303.html
--Danny, who thinks that south park transcripts are neat...
Actually, there's a -badreloc switch that allows you to use "bad" relocations. I used that a lot in an automated installer to relocate stuff that I didn't want installed to a networked trash folder. That way I could nfs mount things like /usr on a lab full of machines - some of which didn't have enough room locally for the complete SuSE install I was doing - without rpm complaining about not being able to write to a (RO) share. I should prolly put that script up on the web somewhere - kickstart's got nothing on my install script... :)
--Danny, who owns a color NeXT station, and thinks the unix behind it blows (but the GUI made up for that)
I really need to get the pictures of my player up on my site, and I should really get the customized distribution (drives a matrix orbital LCD, controlled by a keypad, I'm working on IR, boots in about 15 seconds on the socket 7 platform it's in now, and generally has worked great for about a year). <plug> :)
No, we need Maxwell Smart to circumvent the plans of CHAOS in their attempt to release this nude bomb.
Try taking the space out of the broken URL - that breaks the link through my proxy...
Since the kernel's usually about a month behind, the rest of the software will usually have updates similarly aged, with a good vendor providing patches when neccesary.
tunneling vnc over ssh on *nix (use -c for compression) clients: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/sshvnc.html and how to do it with a windows client http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/sshwin.html
Thus, OSS is not to blame, but lazy sys admins. If the admin isn't gonna pay attention to bugfixes, then he should go with an environment where bugfixes aren't released, thus allowing him to shift the blame to some unresponsive vendor.
Personally, I prefer to take the blame for things that are my responsibility. If there's a problem with my software, then I first look for a fix (which usually already exists), or I [try to] fix it myself. That's what I get paid to do, so that's what I do.
And no, I'm not exclsively responsible for OSS platforms - but not suprisingly, they're the ones that are easier to reliably secure...
try a traceroute to mail.home.net
traceroute to poptart.home.net (24.0.26.112), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 207.56.140.249 (207.56.140.249) 17 ms 6 ms 12 ms
2 d1-0-4.a01.chmpil01.us.ra.verio.net (131.103.180.17) 5 ms 35 ms 18 ms
3 d3-12-0-0.a01.chcgil05.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.50.73) 34 ms 13 ms 9 ms
4 d3-4-1.r00.chcgil01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.16.109) 34 ms 12 ms 29 ms
5 athome.p1-2-1-1.r01.chcgil01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.9.94) 19 ms 9 ms 11 ms
6 c1-pos0-0.lnmtco1.home.net (24.7.65.150) 42 ms 27 ms 30 ms
7 c1-pos10-0.snjsca1.home.net (24.7.65.141) 69 ms 108 ms 71 ms
8 bb3-pos3-0.rdc1.sfba.home.net (24.7.74.62) 68 ms 82 ms 81 ms
9 172.16.4.5 (172.16.4.5) 78 ms 70 ms 73 ms
10 10.0.232.25 (10.0.232.25) 73 ms 72 ms 72 ms
11 fep1.excitehome.net (24.0.26.112) 76 ms * 115 ms
10.0.what? From outside? Mmmm, bad. What about just home.com?
traceroute to home.com (199.172.150.102), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 207.56.140.249 (207.56.140.249) 18 ms 6 ms 5 ms
2 d1-0-4.a01.chmpil01.us.ra.verio.net (131.103.180.17) 18 ms 12 ms 5 ms
3 d3-12-0-0.a01.chcgil05.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.50.73) 21 ms 13 ms 7 ms
4 d3-4-0.r00.chcgil01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.16.77) 16 ms 11 ms 27 ms
5 p4-6-0-0.r01.chcgil01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.254) 23 ms 10 ms 7 ms
6 p1-2-0.r00.snjsca03.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.45) 68 ms 82 ms 70 ms
7 p4-0-3.r05.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.73) 69 ms 71 ms 69 ms
8 ge-5-0-0.a02.plalca01.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.29.34) 76 ms 72 ms 82 ms
9 140.174.166.74 (140.174.166.74) 72 ms 72 ms 72 ms
10 192.168.249.11 (192.168.249.11) 91 ms 71 ms 71 ms
11 192.168.251.4 (192.168.251.4) 102 ms 71 ms 80 ms
12 199.172.150.100 (199.172.150.100) 71 ms 82 ms 81 ms
also bad. I'm not real happy about that, as I actually use 192.168.* internally...
I still think that there's a tighter community in my ~1500 person town than Brooklyn - but then, that's as difficult for me to prove as it is for you, neither of us having lived in the other's home town for nearly long enough to make an accurate judgement... I'll give you "most tight-knit relative to size", but I'm sure as you move farther south (farther than I am, certainly) and more of the town ends up related, you'll find a tighter-knit community, though. ;)
I'm guessing that $10K is a bit of an overstatement, as I own a large, not-so-efficient car. Including the purchase price of the car ($300 - admittedly a good deal), engine parts for the rebuild (about $500), bi-monthly oil change (5 quarts of oil and a filter, about $12x12= $144), and roughly 20 gallons of gas a week ($1.70/gal x 20 gallons x 52 weeks = $1768), I've spent about $2712. You wouldn't need to buy shiny new wheels and tires (cost me around $500) or chrome engine dress-up parts (another $150)...
That still leaves about 7 grand that *I* saved over your mass transit. Your train apperantly sucks arse compared to my car. Next year I won't have to buy a new car or rebuild the engine, so I'll save even *more* money compares to your train. On top of all that, I'll bet that the small town that I live in has a *stronger* sense of community than your big ol' impersonal city (where I lived for several years before moving), and the only busses here are for the school kids.
No, what you're talking about is license plates - that's how you're discovered. Window tint would just make it harder for you to see the old ladies. Wear some glasses ala Clark Kent, and take off your license plates. Maybe stop at the car wash on the way home to wipe off the mess.
You're right about non-traceability being bad, though. I reject traffic coming to my machines if I can't tell who it's coming from in every case that it's possible. I'm not doing anything malicious with anyone's info, and the only reason to hide from me is if you're doing something you don't want me to find out about. Well, I'd better be able to find out if my equipment's being used to do it...
webmin, which I use almost as much as a text editor, supports https. It's cooler than linuxconf too... http://www.webmin.com/webmin/ I'm suprised it's not mentioned anywhere else here...
Well, since Windows isn't supposed to have multiple simultaneous users anyway, I'd think that's OK...
I've been looking for a book with an in-depth discussion of OO under Perl (instead fo a tacked-on chapter that reflects the "tacked-on" opinion of the author). It's nice to see someone wrote one for me. :)
According to the page, in big ol' blue letters on teh one linked to from the article, "Compiles on ...MacOS". That prolly means "doesn't adhere to MacOS look-n-feel guidlines" as well, but eh, whddya gonna do? :)
If you'd bought an HP48g(x), you'd already have both "g" and "G" defined in your calculator. :)