I don't think that the lawsuits against 12 year olds started on her watch (I'm open to correction). What's most interesting about this, though, is that she's turned from being front-person for the RIAA to supporting the CC license...
A turned enemy is twice as useful as a dead one -- often even more..
That's fine.. they can visit all they want. The first part of the investigation, however, should be to read the actual post, and realize that it is soooo tongue in cheek that it's not really a threat, so (unless they find something worrisome), it should be a very short and polite visit.
If she really does get put on a no-fly list because of this, I will lobby for the funds to argue that the whole list should be tossed out as unconstitutional.
The law says that it's only a threat if a reasonable person, under the circumstances, would be likely to take it seriously.
If my friend throws a cup of ice water on me and I yell "aaah! I'll kill you you bastard", at him before grabbing my water gun, that's not a death threat.
If, on the other hand, I reach for a KKK hood and loaded '45 kept mounted on the wall, it would be considered a real threat.
Similarly, a Mafia don 'wishing' GW were dead while handing his best hit man a brand new sniper rifle would (or at least should) be taken far more seriously than some 19 year old who posts a prayer filled with a stack of wacked out wishes, and ending by telling God 'Smooches and Huggles'.
No.. the threat part is the only part he left in. The bold is what he took out. the italics is what he posted. What he edited out is way more than what he posted.
A prayer for co-workers to die might be taken as a real threat if people knew me as the kind of person who expected (and worked) to have my prayers answered. On the other hand, this is the 'prayer' of someone who admits to questioning the existence (much less the power) of God, and who prays for things like for Dubya to be found by the press, dead on a pile of coke with a black male prostitute. When pigs fly!
There's a saying of a friend of mine... "Anyboy who takes this seriously deserves to." I think it applies here just fine.
I can't believe that the parent was modded as flamebait!
I can... He carefully edited it out to remove the context of the words.
She was praying for outrageous and unreasonable things... When you take that out, it seems like she's really asking someone to kill Bush.
To put a bit of the context back in... the bold text is the text edited out of the LiveJournal post in question. italics indicates the so-called quote that was in the 'flaimbait' post.
Dear God: Wassup? How's it hanging? Yeah, I
know it's been a long time since we talked. This probably stems from my
belief that you do not exist. Anyway, the reason why I'm calling you is
because last night, President Bush said that he could feel it every
time we prayed for him, and since he apparently doesn't listen to
anyone but you, Lord, I thought you might pass this along to him.
Please kill George Bush. I hate him so much..
I think he's a dick, and
I want terrible things to happen to him..
I'm not really big on the
specifics of how he dies, but if you could at least arrange it so that
the authorities find his dead body on top of an underage black male
prostitute surrounded by a mountain of cocaine and child pornography,
that would really be super-awesome.
And maybe you could have some media people there when the police find the body, so they can take pictures and stuff..
That'd be fucking GREAT. Am I allowed to say "fuck" in a
prayer? Shit, I just said it again. Ah, well.
Anyway, that's my
prayer, Lord.
Please, please, please kill Dubya. And Dick Cheney. And everyone else in the Bush Administration."
Maybe they can all commit
mass suicide together or something. I don't know. You're the one with
all the ideas. You come up with something. I need more coffee. Smooches and Huggles,
If you properly edit the stuf that just about any commedian says, I'm sure you can come up with something that seems (at first blush) to be very nasty.
The edited quoting takes it so far out of context that it deserved a very clear disclaimer.
and a "strong possibility" according to her attorney that she may be placed on the US no-fly list.
If I were a dot-com millionaire, I'd hand her a first class ticket to any destination of her choice in the US and see what happened... If she's on the no-fly list for this, I'd say that's a pretty good argument for the list being unconstitutional (both in terms of first-amendment rights and the right to be considered innocent until proven guilty).
As someone else pointed out, there's no law that says that the SS can't drop by and ask questions, but when they start limiting my right to speak and travel, I'm quite willing to start fighting back.
What if I posted the name and address of an abortion doctor on a website with the statement "oh I wish this person would just die"?
Completely different.. In that case, there's a very good argument for that you're expecting someone to carry out your 'wish'.
In this case, most (if not all) of the deaths she suggested in her prayer seemed to be self-inflicted. Kinda like me telling you 'drop dead' and getting investigated for death threats. It's completely bogus.
A friend of mine sells dental supplies. He made an anti-bacterial soap that was quite comparable to things like the Jergins soap that you buy for $5/pint, and he sold it for about $12/gallon.
Nobody would buy it.
When he took the jugs, relabeled them and tripled the price, it sold like hotcakes. He sighed all the way to the bank.
People make the mistake of presuming that price -> quality all over the place. We may buy the $3.00 loaf of bread at Safeway without even bothering to try the $1.50 loaf at the corner bakery. There is just so much stuff out there that we ignore simply because it hasn't been advertized on tv (or whatever your favorite media outlet).
Because we know and love Linux, we think that Execs are stupid to quesion it's value, but we skip other jewels in our lives because we don't know them and the packaging isn't as slick.
(( this includes both products and people )).
Don't discount them, and don't disparage them.. They're human just like us. They need to be taught. When they realize what they missed they'll kick themselves. If we kick them now, they'll just run away and never give us the chance to teach them.
Something like that happened to an acquaintence of mine. He runs a large (flower) nursery and greenhouses. he thought he saw signs of an intruder on his property, so he called the cops.
They took one look at his ponytail and hydroponics equipment and started qrustioning him. After about 15 minutes of that bullshit, he told them to either inveistigate his complaint or get thr F*%k off of his property. Needless to say, he wasn't too impressed by their 'customer service'.
By the way, it wasn't an eco-rant, just pointing out that it's somewhat unsound behaviour from an environmental perspective
And what's the difference between that, and an eco-rant??? (Not that I disagree with you -- read the last sentence of my first post on this subject).
An AC said that if everybody started buying their printers just for the ink cartridges, it might envourage them to stop their silly practice --- I doubt it -- they'll just up the price of the printers a bit -- or do something similar to make the practice non-economical.
If you really wanna send them a message, you might want to put the empty cartrige into a new printer, drill a hole thru the motor and mail it back to them parcel post.
If you read the second-last page of
the decision, it appears to be a dissenting opinion, but it brings up some good points that would seem to apply to the DECSS case:
The DMCA defines "circumventing a technological measure" to mean avoid, bypass, etc., "a
technological measure, without the authority of the copyright owner." 17 U.S.C. sect 1201(a)(3)(A)(emphasis by judge). Therefore, under the plain meaning of the law, circumventing a technological measure is only a violation of sect 1201(a) if the device allows consumers access to a work that they are not otherwise permitted to have. .....
If this language of the statute were not enough, it is clear from the legislative history that Congress did not intend this provision to apply to devices that merely facilitated legitimate access...... The aim of sect 1201(b) was to restrict devices used primarily for piracy, and not those that facilitate legal use of products.
What can I say: I like the idea of Linux DVD players.
Technically speaking, you bought the CD, box and manuals, plus you paid for a license for use of the game, subject to copyright restrictions.
I bought a car about a week ago. A couple of days later I went to fill up the tank and I found the following on the gas cap: (paraphrase)
By removing this cover, you agree to the following:
You agree that GM (Gates Motors) retains ownership of this vehicle, and you have only purchased the wheels on which it was delivered.
You agree that you will only have this vehicle repaired by a GM authorized dealer.
You agree that you will not attempt to disassemble, reverse engineer or repair this vehicle on your own.
You agree that, should GM dictate, you will blindly accept any upgrade or modification to this vehicle they offer you.
(if you refuse such an upgrade, you agree that you will forfeit any right to use the vehicle).
You agree that you will pay for any such upgrade whatever charge GM deems acceptable.
You agree that, despite the forgoing, GM shall not be responsible for any malfunction or failure of the Vehicle, including malfunctions which cause death and/or dismemberment, even if GM has been informed of the likelihood of such such malfunction or failure.
if you disagree with this license, please return the vehicle to your GM dealer for a full refund before removing this cap.
You missed the point: Lexmark is essentially dumping the printers at far below cost knowing that they're gonna fleece the consumer when they go to replace the printer cartridges. If you think that the printer cargridge costs are fair, then why does one cartridge by itself cost more than the two cartridges included in the printer?
Most consumers will feel constrained by the fact that they already bought and installed the printer to be willing to toss the printer because it's cheaper than the cartridges it contains... Also: (especially with Wintendos), repeatedly replacing printer drivers (if you go for varying models) could quite possibly foul up the whole OS.
I, myself, remember buying a printer for $20, and then spending an additional $45 for a set of replacement cartridges. If saving money were more important than ecological thriftiness, I should have just bought two printers.
Budget size really does need to be calculated in 'real funds' (after inflation).
The dollar does not have constant value. Back about 1960, my parents bought a 3 bedroom house with a large yard and white picket fence (really!) for $2,400.00. Nowadays that budged might buy you a used camper trailer.
Politicians like to bandy about warped numbers, like: "We've almost doubled the education budget in the last 20 years". Well, if inflation during that time was more than 80% and the child population increased by 40%, that means you're asking the teachers to teach the same (or more) stuff with less (real) money per student.
Understand that protecting copyrights and preventing IP theft is exactly the same as protecting monopolies and preventing competiton.
A bit of yes and no here. Both copyright and Patent are supposed to let you prevent me from sponging off of your intelectual exercise -- but they are both designed to allow me to compete with a similar but improved/cheaper product that does not infringe on your own inventions.
What lexmark tried to do here was game the system and essentially make it impossible to compete in the provision of a service (printer ink cartriges) without violating copyright (kinda like the Sega (I think) scheme that forced cartriges to produce the company logo at the start and then went after anybody who produced compatible cartridges with copyright/trademark violations.
It's gaming the system beyond it's intended bounds -- and it's designed to cheat customers by luring them with cheap printers then sucking them dry on replacements. Most customers don't look at the cost of cartridges when they buy a printer, and presume that they'll be correspondingly cheap, so when they get charged $50 to refill the ink on a $40 printer, they are (rightly) upset, but dont feel any real choice in the matter -- this is especially the case if it's illegal to provide them with a realistic choice other than treating the whole printer as a disposable commodity.
(15/13.6)^.25 => 1.024
In other words, NASA's budget has been 'increasing' by about 2.4% per year since 1999. I'm guessing that that's below inflation
( according to NASA's inflation calculator, just slightly so).
It also doesn't take into account that Bush has now added a massive project onto NASA's plate (Mars mission) without (AFAICT) providing adequate extra funding.
They don't have to fool everyone, just a bunch of select, clueless newbies.
Not completely clueless.. They'd need somebody who knows enough to follow the instructions (and recognize them as vaguely reasonable), but who's just clueless enough to not know that Red Hat would never release a patch in this manner.
I know a few people who would have a problem passing test one (recent converts where I installed their system for them), but most people who could easily pass the first test would also smell the rat.
I'm guessing that the DRM'ed CD went over like a Led-Zeppelin, and they're trying to get back some of the (former) fans that they pissed off with a willfully damaged CD.
...
when they couldn't even release their last album without a bunch of DRM?
It could be legal problems -- If they live by sampling, they'll have to get the rights to release the samples that they're using.. They may not have been able to get a release for anything more than non-commercial sampling.
As for the flip-flop, they may be experimenting to see which approach sells more records, or they may be trying to get back into the good books of all the fans they would have pissed off with a DRM'ed CD.
She lives on the 'net. I doubt that she'd be so stupid as to try and fob off something that could be found with a quick google. Then again, I've seen stupider things in this world, and she does repeat some really stupid stuff.
As far as he's concerned, he's just your average joe trying to make a living. -- now, yeah, his job leaves some people upset, but -- hey! So does Bill Maher.
(for those of you who haven't figured this out, I'm speaking this as devil's advocate, not someone who agrees with him).
Why post the text instead of having the/. crowd flood their server to see what they've put up there?
Well, among other things, the site is now very very down.. First time I looked, it just had a note: "This domain has been temporarily disabled. If you are the owner please contact customer service" (paraphrase from memory). Next time I looked, the domain name wasn't even resolving.
Still isn't.
Slashdotted, borked and broken..... Too bad we couldn't do that more often (to sites like this, I mean).
I would, however, like to see what the trojan tarbal was designed to do.
Slashdot Mirror
A turned enemy is twice as useful as a dead one -- often even more..
!!1! means that the poster had a broken 'shift' key.(and it was LOL, not LO[one])
(I think!).
If she really does get put on a no-fly list because of this, I will lobby for the funds to argue that the whole list should be tossed out as unconstitutional.
The law says that it's only a threat if a reasonable person, under the circumstances, would be likely to take it seriously.
If my friend throws a cup of ice water on me and I yell "aaah! I'll kill you you bastard", at him before grabbing my water gun, that's not a death threat.
If, on the other hand, I reach for a KKK hood and loaded '45 kept mounted on the wall, it would be considered a real threat.
Similarly, a Mafia don 'wishing' GW were dead while handing his best hit man a brand new sniper rifle would (or at least should) be taken far more seriously than some 19 year old who posts a prayer filled with a stack of wacked out wishes, and ending by telling God 'Smooches and Huggles'.
A prayer for co-workers to die might be taken as a real threat if people knew me as the kind of person who expected (and worked) to have my prayers answered. On the other hand, this is the 'prayer' of someone who admits to questioning the existence (much less the power) of God, and who prays for things like for Dubya to be found by the press, dead on a pile of coke with a black male prostitute. When pigs fly!
There's a saying of a friend of mine... "Anyboy who takes this seriously deserves to." I think it applies here just fine.
I can... He carefully edited it out to remove the context of the words. She was praying for outrageous and unreasonable things... When you take that out, it seems like she's really asking someone to kill Bush.
To put a bit of the context back in... the bold text is the text edited out of the LiveJournal post in question. italics indicates the so-called quote that was in the 'flaimbait' post.
If you properly edit the stuf that just about any commedian says, I'm sure you can come up with something that seems (at first blush) to be very nasty.The edited quoting takes it so far out of context that it deserved a very clear disclaimer.
If I were a dot-com millionaire, I'd hand her a first class ticket to any destination of her choice in the US and see what happened... If she's on the no-fly list for this, I'd say that's a pretty good argument for the list being unconstitutional (both in terms of first-amendment rights and the right to be considered innocent until proven guilty).
As someone else pointed out, there's no law that says that the SS can't drop by and ask questions, but when they start limiting my right to speak and travel, I'm quite willing to start fighting back.
Completely different.. In that case, there's a very good argument for that you're expecting someone to carry out your 'wish'.
In this case, most (if not all) of the deaths she suggested in her prayer seemed to be self-inflicted. Kinda like me telling you 'drop dead' and getting investigated for death threats. It's completely bogus.
Nobody would buy it.
When he took the jugs, relabeled them and tripled the price, it sold like hotcakes. He sighed all the way to the bank.
People make the mistake of presuming that price -> quality all over the place. We may buy the $3.00 loaf of bread at Safeway without even bothering to try the $1.50 loaf at the corner bakery. There is just so much stuff out there that we ignore simply because it hasn't been advertized on tv (or whatever your favorite media outlet).
Because we know and love Linux, we think that Execs are stupid to quesion it's value, but we skip other jewels in our lives because we don't know them and the packaging isn't as slick.
(( this includes both products and people )).
Don't discount them, and don't disparage them.. They're human just like us. They need to be taught. When they realize what they missed they'll kick themselves. If we kick them now, they'll just run away and never give us the chance to teach them.
Something like that happened to an acquaintence of mine. He runs a large (flower) nursery and greenhouses. he thought he saw signs of an intruder on his property, so he called the cops.
They took one look at his ponytail and hydroponics equipment and started qrustioning him. After about 15 minutes of that bullshit, he told them to either inveistigate his complaint or get thr F*%k off of his property. Needless to say, he wasn't too impressed by their 'customer service'.
And what's the difference between that, and an eco-rant??? (Not that I disagree with you -- read the last sentence of my first post on this subject).
An AC said that if everybody started buying their printers just for the ink cartridges, it might envourage them to stop their silly practice --- I doubt it -- they'll just up the price of the printers a bit -- or do something similar to make the practice non-economical.
If you really wanna send them a message, you might want to put the empty cartrige into a new printer, drill a hole thru the motor and mail it back to them parcel post.
I bought a car about a week ago. A couple of days later I went to fill up the tank and I found the following on the gas cap: (paraphrase)
- By removing this cover, you agree to the following:
- You agree that GM (Gates Motors) retains ownership of this vehicle, and you have only purchased the wheels on which it was delivered.
- You agree that you will only have this vehicle repaired by a GM authorized dealer.
- You agree that you will not attempt to disassemble, reverse engineer or repair this vehicle on your own.
- You agree that, should GM dictate, you will blindly accept any upgrade or modification to this vehicle they offer you.
- You agree that you will pay for any such upgrade whatever charge GM deems acceptable.
- You agree that, despite the forgoing, GM shall not be responsible for any malfunction or failure of the Vehicle, including malfunctions which cause death and/or dismemberment, even if GM has been informed of the likelihood of such such malfunction or failure.
- if you disagree with this license, please return the vehicle to your GM dealer for a full refund before removing this cap.
Is this license legally binding?(if you refuse such an upgrade, you agree that you will forfeit any right to use the vehicle).
Most consumers will feel constrained by the fact that they already bought and installed the printer to be willing to toss the printer because it's cheaper than the cartridges it contains... Also: (especially with Wintendos), repeatedly replacing printer drivers (if you go for varying models) could quite possibly foul up the whole OS.
I, myself, remember buying a printer for $20, and then spending an additional $45 for a set of replacement cartridges. If saving money were more important than ecological thriftiness, I should have just bought two printers.
The dollar does not have constant value. Back about 1960, my parents bought a 3 bedroom house with a large yard and white picket fence (really!) for $2,400.00. Nowadays that budged might buy you a used camper trailer.
Politicians like to bandy about warped numbers, like: "We've almost doubled the education budget in the last 20 years". Well, if inflation during that time was more than 80% and the child population increased by 40%, that means you're asking the teachers to teach the same (or more) stuff with less (real) money per student.
Well, now we both got to karma whore, so everybody's happy at this end of the stick.
A bit of yes and no here. Both copyright and Patent are supposed to let you prevent me from sponging off of your intelectual exercise -- but they are both designed to allow me to compete with a similar but improved/cheaper product that does not infringe on your own inventions.
What lexmark tried to do here was game the system and essentially make it impossible to compete in the provision of a service (printer ink cartriges) without violating copyright (kinda like the Sega (I think) scheme that forced cartriges to produce the company logo at the start and then went after anybody who produced compatible cartridges with copyright/trademark violations.
It's gaming the system beyond it's intended bounds -- and it's designed to cheat customers by luring them with cheap printers then sucking them dry on replacements. Most customers don't look at the cost of cartridges when they buy a printer, and presume that they'll be correspondingly cheap, so when they get charged $50 to refill the ink on a $40 printer, they are (rightly) upset, but dont feel any real choice in the matter -- this is especially the case if it's illegal to provide them with a realistic choice other than treating the whole printer as a disposable commodity.
In other words, NASA's budget has been 'increasing' by about 2.4% per year since 1999. I'm guessing that that's below inflation ( according to NASA's inflation calculator, just slightly so).
It also doesn't take into account that Bush has now added a massive project onto NASA's plate (Mars mission) without (AFAICT) providing adequate extra funding.
Yes. I think he recntly upgraded the system.. It may not have made it to the website yet.
Not completely clueless.. They'd need somebody who knows enough to follow the instructions (and recognize them as vaguely reasonable), but who's just clueless enough to not know that Red Hat would never release a patch in this manner.
I know a few people who would have a problem passing test one (recent converts where I installed their system for them), but most people who could easily pass the first test would also smell the rat.
This is a buggy honor virus. Please format your hard drive(s) and then pass it to all your friends.
Thank you.
I'm guessing that the DRM'ed CD went over like a Led-Zeppelin, and they're trying to get back some of the (former) fans that they pissed off with a willfully damaged CD.
It could be legal problems -- If they live by sampling, they'll have to get the rights to release the samples that they're using.. They may not have been able to get a release for anything more than non-commercial sampling.
As for the flip-flop, they may be experimenting to see which approach sells more records, or they may be trying to get back into the good books of all the fans they would have pissed off with a DRM'ed CD.
I take it you can't wrap your mind around my #2?
(for those of you who haven't figured this out, I'm speaking this as devil's advocate, not someone who agrees with him).
Well, among other things, the site is now very very down.. First time I looked, it just had a note: "This domain has been temporarily disabled. If you are the owner please contact customer service" (paraphrase from memory). Next time I looked, the domain name wasn't even resolving.
Still isn't.
Slashdotted, borked and broken..... Too bad we couldn't do that more often (to sites like this, I mean).
I would, however, like to see what the trojan tarbal was designed to do.