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Internet Turns 35 Today
shadowspar writes "The CBC is reporting that the Internet turned 35 today. The story talks about the less-than-prophetic beginnings of the net: 'In order to log in to the two-computer network, which was then called ARPANET, programmers at UCLA were to type in 'log', and Stanford would reply 'in'.
The UCLA programmers only got as far as 'lo' before the Stanford machine crashed.'"
I'd swear it only looked 29!
Which Internet?
Arachninecronymphocranialpheliaphobiacs Anonymous
I think that means Al Gore was only 21 when he invented it
MS must have a time machine.
thank u 4 bringing us pr0n
and what a wonderful 35 years of porn collecting it was.
Yes! I listen to NYC Speedcore and do math at 3AM. I suggest you try it too.
God, I feel old.
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ (NOTE: Rearrange the preceeding letters to form a funny tagline)
"...and man, do I ever wish those pictures hadn't gotten onto the 'net."
The opinions stated herein do not necessarily represent those of anybody at all. Deal with it.
and you can go and meet many of the original programmers, now working in home improvement stores up and down the land!
"It's not your information. It's information about you" - John Ford, Vice President, Equifax
or like galaxies in the night sky, separated by vast expanses of emptines and porn
"It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
I am logged in for 8 years now, and wished those 8 years where earlier in time.
more people != more fun on here.
...wasn't "log". It was "lol!!1! did u get my msg??"
I've heard it's all downhill from here on out.
Damn, that's old. I think it's about time for the Internet to packet in.
Ahem.
I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
I can't wait for it to get mid-life crises.
"no more, no more, shall I be driven by porn.God, mel gibson maybe right after all"
Timang tinggi tinggi
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I'm not even sure its safe to called the ARPANET the internet, considering how limited it was, but it will make for some interesting debate.
sorry 'bout the mess...
It is not like the original ubergeeks sat around the U Berkeley lab setting up DARPANet in the 1960s and said "Hey! Let's invent an infinitely superior music distribution model that no one can make money off of!"
But that is exactly what they did.
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
How did the internet grow in the early days? A bar chart of connectivity by year would be interesting.
Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it.
my girlfriend just turned 35 also. Hmmmmmm, I've never seen them in a picture together.................
01001000 01100001 01110000 01110000 01111001 00100000 01000010 01101001 01110010 01110100 01101000 01100100 01100001 01111001 00100001
Happy birthday, internet. Any special birthday sales or clearances?
What the fuck? Did you mean "less-than-auspicious" maybe?
echo happy birthday > inter.net
I suppose it's fitting that there's at least one blogging who's blogging the event here.
If you werent using the internet, what would you actually do on your computer? Here's to another 35 years "learning experiences".
I would have modded you troll, if I had mod points.
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So....does this mean that after they tried again, the first 3 letters the grace the internet were lol.
(Lo [crash] Log)
It's a scary thought....
Bugs are just features that have been fixed.
"The Web will likely be a novelty while serious research will remain on Gopher."
I thought AOL (internet) was alot younger than that.
it's amazing that their current ad campaign makes AOL=Internet
Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
was only like 10 when he invented the Internet. The man's a freakin genius ;)
H4PPY B1R7HD4Y 1N73RN37
thanks alot for l33t speak...
And if my 1337 seer skillz are to be trusted, the next 35 will be at least as informative, funny, cooperative, and interesting.
Who does not watch porn?... At least not on a consitent basis... at least not on the hour... dammit thank you Internet.
Are you utterly devoid of any sense of humour whatsoever?
Unbelievable...
1968 was an important year in world history, no doubt about it. In 1998, there was a wave of documentaries, books and essays about that year. The authors focused on yippies trashing democratic convention in Chicago, Warsaw Pact invading Czechoslovakia, student uprising in Paris, Mexico massacre, flower-power, maoism, Vietnam war, Beatles recording white album or Che Guevara in Bolivia.
Almost nobody noticed that 1968 was also the year when Noyce an Moore founded Intel, Douglas Engelbart demoed for the fist time GUI, mouse and word processing, UCLA and Stanford started to build their networking connection. Even today, scholars seem not to notice the relevance of these facts.
I'm born on the same day as the internet. Interestingly, we seem to share an affinity for porn.
Article == Best... horoscope... ever!
...and thanks for all the porn! (drops a tear)
I seem to remember that the internet apparently already turned 35. Well heres the link to the slashdot post about it. So who's right, CNN or CBC? http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/29/225625 9&tid=95&tid=1
the less-than-prophetic beginnings of the net: ... The UCLA programmers only got as far as 'lo' before the Stanford machine crashed.
Oh, no. The idea of a machine crashing instead of serving up the requested data is totally alien to the modern Slashdot reader!
Totally lame, back to the drawing board, bucko!
happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, you smell like the zoo, you look like a monkey, and you smell like one too :^P
without Internet, will computer adaptation be as widespread as it is?
But personally, i'd be killing some worms or killing some kittens, if you get my drift.
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...the slashdot effect was that old?
The contents of this message have been doubly encrypted by ROT13
They had computers 35 years ago??? Was that AOL v1.1 then?
Al gore was 21 when he invented the internet?
FTP is quite old, and was quite useful even before gopher and later http made zipping files back and forth trivial. The genius of Berners-Lee was rather like the mythical invention of the Recees Peanut Butter Cup. He figured out a way to combine a hypertext markup scheme with internet file transfer. The individual component ideas had been lying around for at least seven years (and possibly since the dawn of ARPANET) when he put them together in a limited whole. Active scripting was a bit more clever an idea, but only marginally.
I will grant that it's a good thing TELNET is dying in favor of SSH-- security (network and computer alike) has made great progress since then. So has bandwidth. So has accessibility to the general public. But it's no more funamentally different in terms of power than modern desktop computers are compared to those of days of yore.
//Information does not want to be free; it wants to breed.
Dammit, I'm older than it is. Mumble
No wonder. I was heading to lunch today and I drove past Matt Sauper's Chevrolet, and there was the Internet with that new blonde girlfriend of it. I hear she's only in college. As I was parking at the sandwich place, there they went, speeding by me. The Internet apparently bought a solid gold Corvette convertible. At least I thought it was him: the license plate said HTTPIMP.
Small potatoes make the steak look bigger.
64 bits should have been enough for anyone.
!!1! means that the poster had a broken 'shift' key.(and it was LOL, not LO[one])
(I think!).
Free Software: Like love, it grows best when given away.
Like I said, mod parent up. It's a point worth making.
Internet at 35
Didn't the internet turn 35 a few months ago?
I mean seriously, even those days, some common sense log-ic could have made a better system, so either they took too much LSD or are lieing their asses off coz they just cant remember or it was utterly boringly simple.
:)s
crashing after "lo" , what they stored the IO buffer in a *pointer, that pointed 0x0 by accident overiding offset 0x0000002 ??
Even 15 yo programmers did better in 1984 on C-64
Liberty freedom are no1, not dicks in suits.
Katie Hafner wrote a great book entitled "Where Wizards Stay Up Late" thats all about the creation of the arpanet. It is more focused on the work that was going on in Boston and I believe MIT at the time than the specific stanford happenings but has a ton of information on both. This is a very interesting read. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0684 832674/qid=1099089921/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/102-7568 317-3623330?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
Joe Beer thinks "the Internet" is around ten years old, since that's when he first heard of it. Smarter Joe-Beers would point to the date of the invention of the Web (not "the Internet" as a whole) and say "See? The Internet was invented by Tim Berners-Lee in 199x... I read it on such-and-such"...
[cue OT rant]
Most bozos nowadays can't distinguish between:
* "The Internet" and "The Web"
* "PC" and "Windows"
* "Microsoft" and "Windows"
* "Macintosh" and "the Mac OS" (or "Mac OS X")
* "Apple" and "Macintosh"
Thus, you will hear things like "Yeah, I'm on the Web" (translation: "I have a connection to the Internet"), or "Are you running Windows or Mac?" (translation: "Windows or Mac OS X"), or "This game is only available for the PC" (read: "...for Windows").
However, these same functional computer illiterates (read: 99% of the US population) manage to think that "Linux", "Unix", "Red Hat" and "Solaris" (to give four examples) are completely different skillsets (talk to any typical "tech recruiter" and you'll see what I mean. I've met guys who have twenty years of experience in half a dozen commercial Unices, but can't get a job dealing with the one major flavor they've never touched... 'cuz as we all know, they don't all share 99% of the same stuff.... Oh, wait, they do...)
Honey, I shrunk the Cygwin
Only yesterday The Internet hosted it's firt pRon site...
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Wow! I did not know they ran Windoze back then!
So the Internet can now run for President! Just in time for election day, too.
This month's Wired magazine has an image that looks like a spider web tracing pong to the internet. Quite interesting.
j pg
Pong -> Atari -> Activision -> Infocom -> MIT -> BBN -> Arpanet -> Internet
Here's a link to my website with the image. Just follow the dotted white line.
http://shadowsurfr1.mine.nu/images/pong_internet.
bwahahahahaha
internet turns 35, but I turn *36*
it will never catch me, as long as I'm alive!
Dear Internet,
Don't you think it's time you settled down? I know that 35 isn't old but you have children now and we they're getting bigger every day. As hard as it may be, you have to start thinking about something bigger then yourself.
It's time to be a grown up and say "I've had enough." Enough Porn, enough gambling, enough lolita brides from Taiwan. But stay positive, Internet, after all, you've had a pretty good run. But let's face it, you couldn't keep this pace up forever. You played video games for 3 million hours last year alone. And let's be serious here: ten million job postings and you've never held a single job?
It's time to clean up your act and start thinking about the next 35 years. Do you want to be the only 70 year old still hooked on Porn on Pirated Music? Your network is aging--what would you do if you broke a hip? or even worse, a backbone?
We love you, Internet. We only want what's best.
Shane
...has some interesting comments on his collaboration with Robert Kahn and where the net is headed in his blog.
She sure looks toight for 97!
If it were, it would have read something like this...
it is not like the original ubergeeks sat around the u berkeley lab setting up darpanet in the 1960s
and said hey lets invent an infinitely superior music distribution model that no one can make money off of
but that is exactly what the did
Of course, it would then ramble on for at least 10 more micro-paragraphs, none of which would use punctuation or capitalization.
Is there a whole lot of tension in the air? There's no denying that there is a definite friction between you and a friend, coworker or family member, but you might not have the slightest idea how it came to be there. Are you overlooking something that you might have said or done to set them on edge? A sensitive soul might have taken umbrage at your quick wit and off-the-cuff comments. Think very carefully about what you might have said in the past.
From: http://astrology.yahoo.com/astrology/general/daily extended/scorpio
So does this mean that the whole damn Internet will be down now -- as it gets slashdoted?
Homer no function beer well without.
UCLA: bud
Stanford: weis
Slashdot: e...NO CARRIER
I shudder to think of it myself.
But I have to question your inclusion of porn and hackers.
porn and hackers are not bad per se, and without porn and hackers the net(WWW) wouldnt probaly exist.
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A president of the United States must be 35 years old and a native US citicizen. So, who is with me?
INTERNET for PRESIDENT, 2004!
It is a pretty good choice. Internet is socially liberal, and fiscially conservative, very accepting of others, and it is willing to let you look at it's massive pr0n collection for free.
Now, all it needs is a phone switch for VP, and it's the ultimate ticket.
HA! I just wasted some of your bandwidth with a frivolous sig!
por^H^H^Hlo
No no no, it's supposed to go
LI
and then crash. LO comes second.
The Internet turned 21 on January 1, 2004. The Internet was born on January 1, 1983 when the ARPANET converted from NCP to TCP/IP. The ARPANET was Network 10. The ARPANET is dead. Long live the ARPANET!
Happy Birthday!
The previous has been a secret message to my comrades.
In 1989 the Internet (all text : mail, telnet, ftp, news, etc) was growing at something like 8% per month. A coworker predicted that in 10 years everyone's toaster would be networked.
I said, "No, only geeks will ever use the Internet."
I realized how wrong that was when I saw my first URL on a billboard in about '95. I felt violated. They were taking over my network!
sigs, as if you care.
Since I turn 33 today, and until now I never knew I shared a birthday with something so big! It's the geek equivalent to being born on christmas day.
Guess I'm not an old fart, I'm in fact younger than the internet!
we all need to stop and thank the man that made all of this possible....Al Gore. and while we're at it, lets thank him for sucking so much that he couldn't beat a total idiot in an election and now the world is a worse off place than it was 4 years ago....so, thank you Al Gore!!! happy birthday internet.
Spiral out. Keep going...
That was interesting. At one point in the video, I saw a 1992 copyright flash across a screen, so this video must date from circa 1992.
Maybee send a thank-you email to al.gore@whitehouse.gov.
Rember, If it weren't for him inventing the internet, we would still be buying porn at the liquor store.....
reminds me.. I'm out of liquor..
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reminded me of this little gem:
"The Internet was invented by the American military back in the late '60s. It was designed to be a durable, scalable, decentralized information delivery system so that in the event of a nuclear attack, American military leaders would still have access to pornography."
Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie - "Keep your parents off the internet" (I'm not afiliated with them)
If it weren't for the 'internets' then I don't know what I would do.
All your Sybase are belong to us.
There was an article just like this in late September, saying that September 2 marked the Internet's 35th. What the hell?
Which is it, Slashdot?? Make up your mind!
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Those who have seen the Anime series "Serial Experiments: Lain" will know what I am talking about. Those who haven't, should.
Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power multiplied.
Does this mean that the internet is going to experience a mid-life crisis?
i can prove it
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i basically am paraphrasing from my kuro5hin story
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/1/28/31758/740
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
my comment was basically paraphrasing from a story i wrote a long time ago on kuro5hin
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http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/1/28/31758/740
basically, my point is that the desire to create music is stronger than the desire to make money
we were banging on drums on front of campfires simply for the sheer joy of it tens of thousands of years before we were exchanging metal coins
do you love music?
no, really... do you love music?: because if you really do, then you will understand why making money or not off of music is not even a valid quesiton to ask
just because they might not become the next decimillionaire sean puffy combs doesn't mean teenage boys will stop trying to make music... your forgetting deeper motivations:
impressing girls
ego, being in the spotlight
etc.
so we won't have the next britney spears? who the fuck cares!
please, by all means, do not confuse the music industry with music itself
it existed long before vinyl, and it will exist long after bertelesmann and sony records are dust and even long after the internet is dust
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Funny, if it was a Linux system it would have crashed at LI.
www.timcoleman.com is a total waste of your time. Never go there.
it'd be 'YO!/SUP?' instead" - Thinkgeek
Seems fitting, though.
192.168.1.2: 'Lo.
192.168.1.1: Hey.
192.168.1.2: 'n I get a shell?
192.168.1.1: Sure.
Assume I was drunk when I posted this.
to whoever finds out which was the first p0rn site ..and when it first aired...
and Lo! they entered the land of Plenty
Thus the original login was strangely appropriate
"It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
about when the "Internet" first took it's baby steps.
How about when DARPA officially earmarked the money to start the research program? Anyone want to hazard a guess when that was, exactly?
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I don't remember where I had heard that the Internet was born on 9/1/1969, now I find it was 10/29? what's up?
Why do I care? Because I was born on precisely that date, and it's always been cool to say that the Internet is exactly as old as I am.
Today is a very important day.
Its the 35th Anniversary of the Internet.
All kinds of important people associated with
the Internet and the World Wide Web were
interviewed today, all over the planet.
How come nobody interviewed the guy who invented it?
You know - Al Gore?
=)
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"These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others."
what the fuck is the internet
Darpanet, HEARD OF IT?
Funded by the government. Precursor of the internet.
Government handout.
IS THAT A HAMMER AND SICKLE ON YOUR FOREHEAD?
DONT LIKE IT? LOG OFF.
Use a commercial network like X.25. Apply to Tymnet, Inc. and hope they'll accept your website.
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Doesn't life go downhill after 35? SPAM, phishing, vulnerabilities, DDOS....I guess it is true then!
So when does the Internet have it's mid life crisis and buy itself a new cherry red convertible Cray X1?
The internet is a number of inventions put together, the idea of a open protocol that any computer network could talk to the outside regardless of what it used internally. It is also the idea that it not centralized like more tradionional networks so that it could survive outage.
Just like junkmail != Postal system, the internet != WWW. Rather just like junkmail uses the postal system to work, the WWW uses the internet. HOWEVER, the two are entirely unrelated. It would be very easy for me to send junkmail without using the postal system, just dropping flyers in your neighbourhood does that and it is easy to make a WWW site wich does not use the internet (A website using local links would do that href=/home/user/mysite/page2.html).
The internet existed long before WWW. This makes those predicting the end of the Internet because of spam or IE exploits so fucking hilarious. It is like saying roads are going to be destroyed because of traffic jams. What you say? We might all use rail transport instead? Rails are roads. Just as anything that will replace the internet will be the internet.
The internet is not a thing, it is an idea. The idea that you can connect individual networks to a central network that connects them all.
If I implemented my connection with the revolutionary new tech off Avian IP it would still be part of the internet even if noone else has packet delays == cat digestive system.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Of course laughing in the background are the credit card companies. Money in the bank. Each and every song bought makes them money and all the need to is a computer system they need anyway. Sweet.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
I hope the Internet won't lose its job. Now it's too old to get reemployed.
Assuming that the Honeywell-based IMP was a using a 7-bit ASCII-like encoding without checksum bit and transferred bit sequentially from most to least significant bit, then the first sequence was 1001100. But I guess it was perhaps rather based on a five-bit teletype scheme.
There wasn't much info on the DDP-516's homepage about that. But I like this quote: "The Honeywell DDP-516 was chosen for its high clock speed (aprox. 1.1 MHz) and expandability"
Birth of the Internet
Honeywell Series 16
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my boss *whining*: I thought I had XP
me *helpfully*: you have office XP
boss: It says 2000. I want eksss-peeee...
Maybe if you listened for more than two seconds to anything.. god.. he's just like George Bush has been described- doesn't read anything, intentionally ignorant, can't tolerate dissent, judges the truth of what people say not on their evidence and reason but on their body language.
Could we be seeing the early stages of a genuine de-evolution?
Darpanet, HEARD OF IT?
Funded by the government. Precursor of the internet.
Government handout.
And exactly how many people derived a benefit from it until it was opened up to commercial interests?
Very, very few.
Progressivism: Parasites helping parasites to help themselves - to other people's stuff.
As always, commercial interests jump on after the R&D money has poured into it and proven it to work, without government handouts the internet as we know it wouldn't exist since no company would have wanted to invest the R&D expenditures to prove it may/may not work.
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