Are websites in general, or Web 2.0 sites, driven by mobile computing standards? HAhahahahardly. I've had various devices supporting old WAP, PocketIE, other net-browsing clients, for seven or eight years now. It's only in the past two or three years I've seen anyone giving decent consideration to mobile platforms -- GoDaddy has a mobile version of their webmail, Google of course is offering more and more mobile-friendly or mobile-centric services.
In general, however, mobile computing has failed to be the tail that wags the dog. Posing this question overinflates the importance of the iPhone. We've had mobile computing struggling to get dedicated web apps for years. We've had touch screens available from Palm and Pocket PC devices for years. Why would the iPhone succeed in changing the way developers design their websites or web apps where these other significant market forces have failed? It's nothing more than a shiny screen and shiny box wrapped around and slapped on a years-old paradigm. Every day I see developers coming to MSDN asking where to go to learn about designing for small screens, for touch screens -- which is great, but the sheer number of them indicates the failure of this body of knowledge and set of skills to fully permeate development world.
No, I won't be changing my sites or apps to accommodate the iPhone, but I will certainly continue to do my best to appeal to as wide as possible an audience, without leaving my target demographics in the dust.
Way to selectively comment on my comment. The documents lost belonged to an old user, and it wasn't stuff that was intended to be preserved. If it had been, I'd have backed it up first, like I did with the critical stuff. And for upgrading a cheap laptop from XP Home to Vista Business, with only an hour or so of my time and no other complications or aggravations, that's a pretty acceptable error rate.
I won a copy of Vista Business 32-bit at a.NET user group meeting earlier this year, and used it to upgrade a COTS Compaq laptop from XP Home. For the first time ever, I had a problem-free Windows upgrade -- I've gone 3.1 to 95, I've gone 98 to 98se, 98/98se to 2000, 2000 to XP, NT to 2000 (IIRC) and typically issues arose -- sometimes due to me selecting a wrong choice, sometimes due to the process itself. The Vista upgrade was flawless -- minimal choices, very straightforward, not overly long, and just about everything was perfect afterward. I lost a few documents when it reshuffled user data folder structure, but other than that, completely flawless. The docs in question were from an old user anyways.
I am running IIS7. I was running Visual Studio Express -- C#, VB.Net, WD -- for a month or so, along with SQL Server 2005 Express, and am now running VS2005 Pro and SQL Server 2005 Dev. I run IE7 and FF2.0. I run the Office 2003 suite. I have had absolutely no complaints whatsoever.
Now, I'm about to buy a custom laptop, and I think I'm going 64-bit Vista, but you know, I almost want to stay XP. As problem-free as Vista has been for me, it doesn't offer me a lot of new stuff -- at least, not on minimal hardware. Of course the hardware-heavy laptop I'm about to buy may offer more features or gizmo-ness, but probably only if I get something DX10 compatible.
If you don't have something capable of running DX10, I'm not sure I see the point of upgrading. That said, I've had a problem-free upgrade.
Ouch. Painful, but probably true. Selling information probably equates to greater profit than the 4% boost the retailer gets from having privacy safeguarded.
You know, that was my initial reaction too. However, I don't think that's the notion that's conveyed by the study -- I'd like to think that it means merchants who protect privacy to begin with are rewarded for it. Unfortunately, I do suspect that this will translate into "how much more can I charge because I post a rigid and thorough privacy policy?"
No surprise, after all, they're the same situation. A foreign force is attempting to occupy your homeland. Volume and quality of information is scarce, often due to decisions from people at the top. Support is never what you expect. Cost overruns across the board. Bloat. Local insurgencies.
Re:you mean... like we have had for years?
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As the owner of a Treo 700W PocketPC, a Cingular 8125 PocketPC and a Cingular 2125 Smartphone (both rebranded HTC models), and a Microsoft MVP nominee for Visual Developer - Device Application Development, I hope that a MID will offer "more." More screen space. More power. "More" keyboard -- I want something on which I can realistically read and answer email, compose a document or spreadsheet, edit and compile code, and 2.2" of screen with a thumbboard, and limited processor and memory, ain't gonna cut it. Sure, I find my devices handy, and as a geek, they also have some fun uses, especially when I deploy my own software.
However, I'd like something smaller than a laptop, with fullblown connectivity across the spectrum, with a decent battery life and a REAL keyboard. SIPs != real keyboards, and they never will. I need some feedback for my touch typing. If they turned out a slim-profile "UMPC" with a REAL keyboard, plus bluetooth, WiFi, and GPRS/EDGE/EVDO/HSPDA/etc. I'd buy it in a minute. I'm curious to see what an "MID" eventually specs out as. Hopefully it doesn't become another "Internet appliance," and fade from memory.
No crap. Since when did marketing turn into SEO!? Marketing, advertising. Sell a solid product, provide a solid service, you'll get plenty of word-of-mouth, but when you're generating $3m in revenue a year, maybe you ought to consider a little outlay on -- GASP -- ads!?
@gEvil: I think what you have for your sig is a paraphrase of Zinsser, not a quote... I've never seen that quote anywhere, but I've seen similar dialogue in speeches or talks he's participated in...
They have, I don't think the article is saying this will be the first IP router in space. In fact, Cisco just carried out the first IPv6 routing in space the other day...
I worked with an excellent widgets framework while at Xerox -- the best I've ever seen, they have a very skilled team of engineers dedicated to UI who REALLY KNOW THEIR SHIT(TM). Even so, I'm happy to be back in an environment that doesn't require a freakin' postback to get REAL WORK done without all the implications, complications, consequences and risks of AJAX. Give me a desktop app that interacts with an XML webservice any day of the week, thanks.
As an owner of a Treo 700w, 2 Cingular 2125s and an 8125 (HTC Tornado and Wizard), and as an engineer for products based on these platforms, I disagree.
The only point to mobile apps is connectivity. Text messaging? Check. Email? Check. Media sharing? Check. Sure, I can write a Word doc on my Pocket PC phones, or on a Smartphone with a Bluetooth keyboard (I'm not out to grow Asian SMS thumbs) but do I WANT to? Will I do so in anything but the most desperate scenario? No, I'm going to do it on my laptop or desktop. Am I going to do Photoshop work on a 2.5" diagonal screen? Heck no! Am I going to write software ON my phone? Probably not, though I have edited HTML and ASP from a Pocket PC phone before. Yes, I maintain a list of contacts and calendar events, but only for purposes of keeping myself in sync at home and at work -- without a desktop or laptop flashing up an event notice in front of me, I'd miss half my meetings. Yes, having that schedule available to me on the road has value, but again, not without integration with less-mobile platforms.
One product I engineered is, essentially, a self-contained web cam. No electrical requirements (battery/solar powered) not hard line to a network (GPRS driven). Take a picture, send it to the server. All the interaction on the client's part is with the server, not their deployed camera, and from their own desktop or laptop (though yes, there has been some talk of making the camera viewing/controlling app mobile-friendly). All in all, however, you're never going to have serious clientside applications doing much of ANYTHING on something with a 2.5" screen. Now, if I could easily run screen output to a real monitor, that's a different story...
I saw a listing for a COBOL programmer for $17-$23/hour the other day... sorry to shoot your post down...
Now, in late 99, sure, their salaries were high...
We have a number of COBOL consultants here where I work, and the company only offers them $65k or so to go permanent -- one guy makes about 110 or so contracting, and they offered him 65. We have a number of permanent COBOL programmers in place, and I don't think they're making much more than that either. On the.NET side, people making 90-100k are getting offered in the low to mid 80s...
"The base plan for Fios offers download speeds of up to 5mbps, with an upload speed of 2mbps for $39.95. For $49.95, consumers can get download speeds up to 15mbps, and for $199.95, users can download at 30mbps and upload at 5mbps."
2mbps is faster than most cable upload speeds as of two years ago.
hahaha, good luck on that medical claim, let me know how it goes.
I currently have a wifi provider with premises equipment in my "luxury" apartment complex in Latham, NY. It's far from fantastic -- I'm thinking of going back to TimeWarner, but I'm really holding out for FiOS. One thing I will credit the wifi provider with, however, is the fact that they don't limit or filter in any fashion... unfortunately they DO have a firewall between myself and the Internet, so if I wanted to VPN/RD to my home desktop, or run my own mail server again, I'd have to ask them to NAT it for me.
Where in Endicott/Binghamton, if you don't mind my asking? I have relatives in JC and Vestal.
I'm a NYSer, western NY (Rochester) for nine years, now Albany. Currently, Time Warner is the only cable service available to me. Verizon's FiOS is available in some areas near me, and I expect it to be available at my doorstep sometime in the near future. Granted, it's a choice between cable or fiber, not cable or cable, but the services available, and their prices, are roughly equivalent (though FiOS is supposedly faster). I've heard of people in larger urban markets having multiple cable service provider options, but it's all still run over the same copper.
Nice! I live across the river from RPI, I got my associate's in IT from RIT, I'm a mostly self-taught enterprise.NET software engineer for a major vision company with its computing center in Latham... I've been looking to go back to school, RPI, being so close, is on my list for consideration. This might be soem motivation... I wonder how part-time friendly it is.
First of all, wouldn't you rather see an animal more fully utilized, rather than partially utilized, if it's going to be killed for our uses anyway?
Secondly, please, take the melancholy emo-ness elsewhere. Would you rather see children die of organ failure, or sheep be euthanized for the purpose of saving said child?
... who are 15% sheep. I've also known humans who are 100% sheep. baaah, baaah, follow the leader. Isn't that what mass media, modern government and psychotropic drugs in the water supply are for?
I wonder if I can get me a sheep liver in the near future... and would it handle my alcohol consumption any better?
This is the same "breakthrough" they came out with five months ago, only applying the same technique to the two facing surfaces rather than just the one.
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Are websites in general, or Web 2.0 sites, driven by mobile computing standards? HAhahahahardly. I've had various devices supporting old WAP, PocketIE, other net-browsing clients, for seven or eight years now. It's only in the past two or three years I've seen anyone giving decent consideration to mobile platforms -- GoDaddy has a mobile version of their webmail, Google of course is offering more and more mobile-friendly or mobile-centric services.
In general, however, mobile computing has failed to be the tail that wags the dog. Posing this question overinflates the importance of the iPhone. We've had mobile computing struggling to get dedicated web apps for years. We've had touch screens available from Palm and Pocket PC devices for years. Why would the iPhone succeed in changing the way developers design their websites or web apps where these other significant market forces have failed? It's nothing more than a shiny screen and shiny box wrapped around and slapped on a years-old paradigm. Every day I see developers coming to MSDN asking where to go to learn about designing for small screens, for touch screens -- which is great, but the sheer number of them indicates the failure of this body of knowledge and set of skills to fully permeate development world.
No, I won't be changing my sites or apps to accommodate the iPhone, but I will certainly continue to do my best to appeal to as wide as possible an audience, without leaving my target demographics in the dust.
Way to selectively comment on my comment. The documents lost belonged to an old user, and it wasn't stuff that was intended to be preserved. If it had been, I'd have backed it up first, like I did with the critical stuff. And for upgrading a cheap laptop from XP Home to Vista Business, with only an hour or so of my time and no other complications or aggravations, that's a pretty acceptable error rate.
I won a copy of Vista Business 32-bit at a .NET user group meeting earlier this year, and used it to upgrade a COTS Compaq laptop from XP Home. For the first time ever, I had a problem-free Windows upgrade -- I've gone 3.1 to 95, I've gone 98 to 98se, 98/98se to 2000, 2000 to XP, NT to 2000 (IIRC) and typically issues arose -- sometimes due to me selecting a wrong choice, sometimes due to the process itself. The Vista upgrade was flawless -- minimal choices, very straightforward, not overly long, and just about everything was perfect afterward. I lost a few documents when it reshuffled user data folder structure, but other than that, completely flawless. The docs in question were from an old user anyways.
I am running IIS7. I was running Visual Studio Express -- C#, VB.Net, WD -- for a month or so, along with SQL Server 2005 Express, and am now running VS2005 Pro and SQL Server 2005 Dev. I run IE7 and FF2.0. I run the Office 2003 suite. I have had absolutely no complaints whatsoever.
Now, I'm about to buy a custom laptop, and I think I'm going 64-bit Vista, but you know, I almost want to stay XP. As problem-free as Vista has been for me, it doesn't offer me a lot of new stuff -- at least, not on minimal hardware. Of course the hardware-heavy laptop I'm about to buy may offer more features or gizmo-ness, but probably only if I get something DX10 compatible.
If you don't have something capable of running DX10, I'm not sure I see the point of upgrading. That said, I've had a problem-free upgrade.
Ouch. Painful, but probably true. Selling information probably equates to greater profit than the 4% boost the retailer gets from having privacy safeguarded.
You know, that was my initial reaction too. However, I don't think that's the notion that's conveyed by the study -- I'd like to think that it means merchants who protect privacy to begin with are rewarded for it. Unfortunately, I do suspect that this will translate into "how much more can I charge because I post a rigid and thorough privacy policy?"
And in other news, water is wet, ice is cold, violets are blue, bears are Catholic and the Pope poops in the woods.
Well, what I mean is, a QWERTY KEYboard, and not a THUMBboard.
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Gigabyte's news release:
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/News/Notebook/News_Lis
Unfortunately, looks like no built-in cell connectivity, though it does have Bluetooth
Also unfortunately: $920 USD.
A Win UMPC with a fullsize keyboard ... now if only it has both WiFi and cell broadband (2.5G/3G/HSPDA) I'm in heaven!
No surprise, after all, they're the same situation. A foreign force is attempting to occupy your homeland. Volume and quality of information is scarce, often due to decisions from people at the top. Support is never what you expect. Cost overruns across the board. Bloat. Local insurgencies.
As the owner of a Treo 700W PocketPC, a Cingular 8125 PocketPC and a Cingular 2125 Smartphone (both rebranded HTC models), and a Microsoft MVP nominee for Visual Developer - Device Application Development, I hope that a MID will offer "more." More screen space. More power. "More" keyboard -- I want something on which I can realistically read and answer email, compose a document or spreadsheet, edit and compile code, and 2.2" of screen with a thumbboard, and limited processor and memory, ain't gonna cut it. Sure, I find my devices handy, and as a geek, they also have some fun uses, especially when I deploy my own software.
However, I'd like something smaller than a laptop, with fullblown connectivity across the spectrum, with a decent battery life and a REAL keyboard. SIPs != real keyboards, and they never will. I need some feedback for my touch typing. If they turned out a slim-profile "UMPC" with a REAL keyboard, plus bluetooth, WiFi, and GPRS/EDGE/EVDO/HSPDA/etc. I'd buy it in a minute. I'm curious to see what an "MID" eventually specs out as. Hopefully it doesn't become another "Internet appliance," and fade from memory.
No crap. Since when did marketing turn into SEO!? Marketing, advertising. Sell a solid product, provide a solid service, you'll get plenty of word-of-mouth, but when you're generating $3m in revenue a year, maybe you ought to consider a little outlay on -- GASP -- ads!?
Interesting. Might have to pick that up.
@gEvil: I think what you have for your sig is a paraphrase of Zinsser, not a quote ... I've never seen that quote anywhere, but I've seen similar dialogue in speeches or talks he's participated in ...
http://www.startribune.com/462/story/1056434.html
Wait, people post stupid, embarrassing and/or illegal crap on their MySpace pages? Who knew!?
They have, I don't think the article is saying this will be the first IP router in space. In fact, Cisco just carried out the first IPv6 routing in space the other day ...
I worked with an excellent widgets framework while at Xerox -- the best I've ever seen, they have a very skilled team of engineers dedicated to UI who REALLY KNOW THEIR SHIT(TM). Even so, I'm happy to be back in an environment that doesn't require a freakin' postback to get REAL WORK done without all the implications, complications, consequences and risks of AJAX. Give me a desktop app that interacts with an XML webservice any day of the week, thanks.
As an owner of a Treo 700w, 2 Cingular 2125s and an 8125 (HTC Tornado and Wizard), and as an engineer for products based on these platforms, I disagree.
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The only point to mobile apps is connectivity. Text messaging? Check. Email? Check. Media sharing? Check. Sure, I can write a Word doc on my Pocket PC phones, or on a Smartphone with a Bluetooth keyboard (I'm not out to grow Asian SMS thumbs) but do I WANT to? Will I do so in anything but the most desperate scenario? No, I'm going to do it on my laptop or desktop. Am I going to do Photoshop work on a 2.5" diagonal screen? Heck no! Am I going to write software ON my phone? Probably not, though I have edited HTML and ASP from a Pocket PC phone before. Yes, I maintain a list of contacts and calendar events, but only for purposes of keeping myself in sync at home and at work -- without a desktop or laptop flashing up an event notice in front of me, I'd miss half my meetings. Yes, having that schedule available to me on the road has value, but again, not without integration with less-mobile platforms.
One product I engineered is, essentially, a self-contained web cam. No electrical requirements (battery/solar powered) not hard line to a network (GPRS driven). Take a picture, send it to the server. All the interaction on the client's part is with the server, not their deployed camera, and from their own desktop or laptop (though yes, there has been some talk of making the camera viewing/controlling app mobile-friendly). All in all, however, you're never going to have serious clientside applications doing much of ANYTHING on something with a 2.5" screen. Now, if I could easily run screen output to a real monitor, that's a different story
I saw a listing for a COBOL programmer for $17-$23/hour the other day ... sorry to shoot your post down ...
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.NET side, people making 90-100k are getting offered in the low to mid 80s ...
Now, in late 99, sure, their salaries were high
We have a number of COBOL consultants here where I work, and the company only offers them $65k or so to go permanent -- one guy makes about 110 or so contracting, and they offered him 65. We have a number of permanent COBOL programmers in place, and I don't think they're making much more than that either. On the
According to an almost two year old article:
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"The base plan for Fios offers download speeds of up to 5mbps, with an upload speed of 2mbps for $39.95. For $49.95, consumers can get download speeds up to 15mbps, and for $199.95, users can download at 30mbps and upload at 5mbps."
2mbps is faster than most cable upload speeds as of two years ago.
http://news.com.com/Broadband+speed+war+emerges/2
hahaha, good luck on that medical claim, let me know how it goes.
... unfortunately they DO have a firewall between myself and the Internet, so if I wanted to VPN/RD to my home desktop, or run my own mail server again, I'd have to ask them to NAT it for me.
I currently have a wifi provider with premises equipment in my "luxury" apartment complex in Latham, NY. It's far from fantastic -- I'm thinking of going back to TimeWarner, but I'm really holding out for FiOS. One thing I will credit the wifi provider with, however, is the fact that they don't limit or filter in any fashion
Where in Endicott/Binghamton, if you don't mind my asking? I have relatives in JC and Vestal.
I'm a NYSer, western NY (Rochester) for nine years, now Albany. Currently, Time Warner is the only cable service available to me. Verizon's FiOS is available in some areas near me, and I expect it to be available at my doorstep sometime in the near future. Granted, it's a choice between cable or fiber, not cable or cable, but the services available, and their prices, are roughly equivalent (though FiOS is supposedly faster). I've heard of people in larger urban markets having multiple cable service provider options, but it's all still run over the same copper.
Nice! I live across the river from RPI, I got my associate's in IT from RIT, I'm a mostly self-taught enterprise .NET software engineer for a major vision company with its computing center in Latham ... I've been looking to go back to school, RPI, being so close, is on my list for consideration. This might be soem motivation ... I wonder how part-time friendly it is.
Oh please.
First of all, wouldn't you rather see an animal more fully utilized, rather than partially utilized, if it's going to be killed for our uses anyway?
Secondly, please, take the melancholy emo-ness elsewhere. Would you rather see children die of organ failure, or sheep be euthanized for the purpose of saving said child?
... who are 15% sheep. I've also known humans who are 100% sheep. baaah, baaah, follow the leader. Isn't that what mass media, modern government and psychotropic drugs in the water supply are for?
... and would it handle my alcohol consumption any better?
I wonder if I can get me a sheep liver in the near future
This is the same "breakthrough" they came out with five months ago, only applying the same technique to the two facing surfaces rather than just the one.