What if you instead were putting cow's milk in a carton, and a newer breed of cow came out and you instead started putting that breed of cow's milk inside the carton instead.
nothing would have changed to the packaging and teh users would have no recourse except switching products to get the "old milk"
What if I want to buy my Mac preloaded with an older OS a month after the new one comes out? Can I? (I honestly don't know here some someone can let me know).
What if I want to buy my EEE with a different older version of Xandros? Can I?
I fail to see how this is the fault of the OEM, Dell or otherwise.
I also fail to see how it is a problem at all.
If i want to buy a deprecated model of car, can I?
Yes, it's called buying it used.
The difference here is I might be able to buy the new system and downgrade it myself if I like.
I can't really do that with a car (not easily anyway).
yes because people won't go to a bunch of different sites to view their news....
or their forum tastes.....
etc.
people have these things called bookmarks. and if they can easily and freely view content from a viacom subsidiary, even with ads in place, they will.
so if viacom wants to setup a website for each subsidiary, or even each show, and on said website display ads, and offer video's of their content, with embedded ads, they can.
if a copy of said content is uploaded to youtube without ads, then this is again, a classic case of copyright infringement and it has the effect of lowering their revenue.
its a perfectly valid point.
i happen to disagree with their reasoning, and can see that uploaded content on sites like youtube may actually be beneficial, but i can also see how they have reached their reasoning.
why do people insist on calling ebay an auction site?
it's not
auctions dont end at a certain time. the end when the bids are no longer increasing.
plain and simple
an auction site would have a time limit for the bids to be increased. not some arbitrary deadline where the last person to enter a bid before the cutoff "wins".
you get the newer version that was probably written many moons ago.
same as my dentist did when his office was flooded by a water pipe rupture.
they had "old stuff" that they liked and didnt want to upgrade.
when it was borked by the water, they got the new stuff, and amazingly, it works better, is more stable, and does a lot more.
they now have all kinds of program based options that they didnt have before.
possibly because in the realm of wfw3.11 they didnt have gb hard drives and the ability to digitally store an x ray for life wasnt considered economically feasible.
i would think that would fall the same as trademarks, in which case most of the time, someone buys them at a low price to keep.
look at all of the problems that surrounded the use of the names of British motorcycle companies and their "symbols" when many were revived in the mid to late 90's.
exactly just like how a company cannot suddenly GPL their software if it contains contributions from other developers that are not already GPL without getting the permission of all of the affected developers.
and since i'm willing to bet that some of the code in windows for doing things like playing video, and displaying images, and the like ARE licensed from other companies (not just stolen), and these parties are still making available their code and supporting it, you have a HUGE confusing jumble of what could be released, what couldn't and what legally shouldn't be.
so despite the utopian desires of a few people, its not entirely feasible.
thats all well and good in the utopia you want to live in, but this is the real world, and in this real world, most people are voting for one of two parties as these are the only two candidates with a real chance of getting elected.
therefore, since most people are in fact voting not so much for someone, but rather against someone (the OP mentality confirms this), voting for a candidate with little chance of winning, actually increases the chance of the person you are voting against of winning.
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funny, most oem's i've dealt with also send along a driver disk.
gateway
dell
hp
ibm/lenovo
it's got everything i need.
oh, and i just installed vista over top of XP yesterday.....
there's this windows.old folder with all this stuff in it.....
maybe if you dont have a clue, you should keep it to yourself.
You've obviously never installed a mac with upgraded RAM and video card before have you.
it's not pretty
and God forbid you have to start from a previous version that came with your mac.
you can, but it's not legal.
Technically no.
Because you didnt buy XP
You bought Vista, and as part of the Vista lisc you were given the XP as a downgrade only lisc.
so you cannot LEGALLY sell either of them.
This is, pf course, also regardless of the OEM lisc which says the copies of Windows are only valid for the computer they came shipped with.
pointless analogy.
What if you instead were putting cow's milk in a carton, and a newer breed of cow came out and you instead started putting that breed of cow's milk inside the carton instead.
nothing would have changed to the packaging and teh users would have no recourse except switching products to get the "old milk"
it also points out something I see every day.
Most of the end users really don't care.
And this is Dell's fault why?
It's not like Dell came out with the new OS.
What if I want to buy my Mac preloaded with an older OS a month after the new one comes out?
Can I? (I honestly don't know here some someone can let me know).
What if I want to buy my EEE with a different older version of Xandros?
Can I?
I fail to see how this is the fault of the OEM, Dell or otherwise.
I also fail to see how it is a problem at all.
If i want to buy a deprecated model of car, can I?
Yes, it's called buying it used.
The difference here is I might be able to buy the new system and downgrade it myself if I like.
I can't really do that with a car (not easily anyway).
stop replying with facts to morons.
it makes them look stupid and we can't have that in today's modern world.
maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but I know a lot of people that change their download directory default in Firefox to the desktop.
if you think a place like applebee's, chili'c, or texas roadhouse make ANY good food, then you don't know what good food is.
ummm
google delta rocket explosions.
they are pretty catastrophic.
and the people in cape Canaveral that had pieces fall on their cars want to talk to you.
except of course the thought that the surface of the moon (and mars too) could actually be used to create the required fuel.
of course this is conjecture and not definitive yet.
but it would allow for less fuel if possible.
personally, i thought Wall_E was the most overrated movie of the summer so far.
great visuals, poor plot and story line, and just plain too much "YOU NEED TO CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT OR YOU'LL DIE!!!" crap in it.
i rate it as the worst Pixar film i've ever seen.
And i own every pixar film and enjoy them.
yes because people won't go to a bunch of different sites to view their news....
or their forum tastes.....
etc.
people have these things called bookmarks.
and if they can easily and freely view content from a viacom subsidiary, even with ads in place, they will.
so if viacom wants to setup a website for each subsidiary, or even each show, and on said website display ads, and offer video's of their content, with embedded ads, they can.
if a copy of said content is uploaded to youtube without ads, then this is again, a classic case of copyright infringement and it has the effect of lowering their revenue.
its a perfectly valid point.
i happen to disagree with their reasoning, and can see that uploaded content on sites like youtube may actually be beneficial, but i can also see how they have reached their reasoning.
why do people insist on calling ebay an auction site?
it's not
auctions dont end at a certain time.
the end when the bids are no longer increasing.
plain and simple
an auction site would have a time limit for the bids to be increased.
not some arbitrary deadline where the last person to enter a bid before the cutoff "wins".
you were 5.
one bsod is remembered as a thousand.
and striking it with your playskool hammer probably wasn't the best way to "type" on the 'puter either....
how about because these same companies continually desire that the product be MAINTAINED as well.
i still want to buy a vincent black shadow, new, not restored.
now get on it skippy.
at that time you'll spend the $10 to buy the new hardware instead of wasting hours "troubleshooting".
you get the newer version that was probably written many moons ago.
same as my dentist did when his office was flooded by a water pipe rupture.
they had "old stuff" that they liked and didnt want to upgrade.
when it was borked by the water, they got the new stuff, and amazingly, it works better, is more stable, and does a lot more.
they now have all kinds of program based options that they didnt have before.
possibly because in the realm of wfw3.11 they didnt have gb hard drives and the ability to digitally store an x ray for life wasnt considered economically feasible.it's not like the program is going to self destruct.
they are simply not selling any NEW copies.
the ones out there continue to work and will be self maintained just like most things.
If i want to "extend" the software with new features, I can buy the new version.
just like i can pay a programmer to do it for me.
except its already done.
i would think that would fall the same as trademarks, in which case most of the time, someone buys them at a low price to keep.
look at all of the problems that surrounded the use of the names of British motorcycle companies and their "symbols" when many were revived in the mid to late 90's.
try tinyXP
exactly
just like how a company cannot suddenly GPL their software if it contains contributions from other developers that are not already GPL without getting the permission of all of the affected developers.
and since i'm willing to bet that some of the code in windows for doing things like playing video, and displaying images, and the like ARE licensed from other companies (not just stolen), and these parties are still making available their code and supporting it, you have a HUGE confusing jumble of what could be released, what couldn't and what legally shouldn't be.
so despite the utopian desires of a few people, its not entirely feasible.
can i have your job?
i get all those benefits, except the salary part....
i want that 6 figure salary please... :D
thats all well and good in the utopia you want to live in, but this is the real world, and in this real world, most people are voting for one of two parties as these are the only two candidates with a real chance of getting elected.
therefore, since most people are in fact voting not so much for someone, but rather against someone (the OP mentality confirms this), voting for a candidate with little chance of winning, actually increases the chance of the person you are voting against of winning.
unfortunately to me, he was....
when people ask me why i voted for him, i point out i didnt vote for him, but rather against the morons who i despised running against him.
and no, i wasnt stupid enough to think that voting for some lame ass never gonna get elected candidate was a viable option.
remember, i was voting to make sure a certain person wasn't elected.