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Firefox 3.0.1 Fixes 'Carpet Bombing' Issue

An anonymous reader writes "Firefox 3.0.1 was released today. It fixes 3 security vulnerabilities, including a critical issue reported by Billy Rios, Ben Turner, and Dan Veditz. The issue could be combined with an issue in Apple's Safari browser to read data from the user's disk or to execute arbitrary code. This issue was previously discussed on Slashdot. The release also fixes a remote code execution bug involving the CSS reference counter, reported by the Zero-Day Initiative (previously discussed on Slashdot here), as well as a Mac-only potential code execution bug involving GIF image rendering, reported by Drew Yao of Apple Product Security."

168 comments

  1. Who Cares... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously. It's a .1 release. No one cares when Opera or Safari have a similar release.

    1. Re:Who Cares... by bconway · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, it's a .0.1 release. Firefox 3.1 (alpha due this summer) has a lot of new features that didn't make it in time for 3.0.

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    2. Re:Who Cares... by pacroon · · Score: 1

      You're right, we need WAY more Internet Explorer updates here: This just in: Animated 'e' is blue.

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    3. Re:Who Cares... by Vectronic · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I for one, welcome our browser caring overlords.

      My issue is that "No one cares when Opera or Safari have a similar release. [or Internet Explorer, or Konqueror...]" but they do when its Firefox.

      Opera 9.51 went through a few RC's and a final and is on 9.52RC/Snapshot, Safari has gone through a couple *.*# and a whole #.0 in the last few months for Mac, Win and Mobile...

      But no, Firefox 3.1 Sub-Alpha-Hypothetical-Possibility-Beta-RC Build 3219 hits front page and we're supposed to eat a cracker drink some wine and pray to it, but oh wait, we're all for competition and innovation, as long as its Firefox Vs. Firefox.

      (stomps off)

    4. Re:Who Cares... by badpazzword · · Score: 3, Informative

      And Safari and Opera are both non-free so they are more reluctant to give detailed fix reports.

      http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

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    5. Re:Who Cares... by ya+really · · Score: 2

      And Safari and Opera are both non-free so they are more reluctant to give detailed fix reports. http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ [opera.com]

      Non free? I believe you mean they have a proprietary source code, as opposed to open source like firefox. I don't recall paying to download either Opera or Safari for my desktop and laptop. Yes, I do know opera charges now for the Wii browser, but I don't have a Wii.

    6. Re:Who Cares... by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Free as in? 'Cause, well, I'm pretty sure you should know that both Safari and Opera don't actually cost the end user anything to install. I think it is pretty safe to say that the pay-for-a-browser market on the PC platform is pretty much over.

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    7. Re:Who Cares... by Darkness404 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Non-free, as in closed-source, as in proprietary. Sure Safari is mostly open-source, but Opera is as much proprietary as IE.

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    8. Re:Who Cares... by ya+really · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My issue is that "No one cares when Opera or Safari have a similar release. [or Internet Explorer, or Konqueror...]" but they do when its Firefox.

      Opera 9.51 went through a few RC's and a final and is on 9.52RC/Snapshot, Safari has gone through a couple *.*# and a whole #.0 in the last few months for Mac, Win and Mobile...

      Your post is sorta worded as flamebait to some, but it does have truth. It doesn't take a statistician or a complex algo to add up how many postings have been about FireFox in the past 6 months compared to all other browsers combined. I applaude the openness that Mozilla chose for it's flagship browser. However, their product seems to have drawn some rather fervent users as well. Don't mind them, they're to Firefox as Fundies are to religion. That is, ignore/condemn anything that doesnt parallel their own viewpoint.

    9. Re:Who Cares... by drewness · · Score: 2, Informative

      Non free? I believe you mean they have a proprietary source code, as opposed to open source like firefox.

      Safari is Open Source. Head over to WebKit.org and you can get the source via Subversion or browse it via Trac. It's licensed under a mix of LGPL and BSD licenses.

    10. Re:Who Cares... by Godji · · Score: 1

      WebKit is open source, but is Safari? One is the engine, the other is the browser using that engine. Is Safari itself open source too?

    11. Re:Who Cares... by Godji · · Score: 3, Funny

      Safari has gone through a couple *.*# and a whole #.0 in the last few months for Mac, Win and Mobile...

      And Internet Explorer is still going through lots of *&^%$#@!

    12. Re:Who Cares... by KGIII · · Score: 1

      That's what I figured/hoped you'd meant. I actually like Opera a great deal though the current version is too cartoonish looking for my taste. I should, probably, theme it. I dare say I like it more than I like Firefox. Ah well, thanks for making it more clear. (I am not one of the people who really cares if the source is open or closed, I just want it to work in the ways that I expect it to.)

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    13. Re:Who Cares... by larry+bagina · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Safari isn't FREE (as in herpes), but WebKit is FREE (as in LGPL). It also has a more diverse set of contributors and developers than mozilla (almost all development is by paid mozilla employees and gecko is used in firefox, whereas webkit development is done by Apple, Nokia/Trolltech, KDE, individuals, and WebKit is used in Safari, Nokia, QT, KDE, Android, S60, etc).

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    14. Re:Who Cares... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would care if they did something to improve the performance, but it looks like they did not. I have noticed worse overall performance with every major release from them so far, 1.x -> 2 -> 3.

    15. Re:Who Cares... by HeroreV · · Score: 4, Informative

      Safari is closed source. WebKit (the layout engine Safari uses) is open source, but the builds used by Safari rely on a binary closed source blob from Apple. If you value software freedom, you shouldn't use Safari.

    16. Re:Who Cares... by Lennie · · Score: 4, Informative

      no, Safari isn't open source, WebKit is open source, because it is based on khtml.

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    17. Re:Who Cares... by hesiod · · Score: 4, Funny

      It seems you haven't run Windows Update for a long time then...

    18. Re:Who Cares... by Darkness404 · · Score: 1

      Yes, I've used Opera a few times and think it is ok, but really I don't like the closed source aspect of it. Sure it is secure, but if it was the dominant browser, I think it would have as many exploitable holes as IE does now, Firefox and Safari both have open source going for them.

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    19. Re:Who Cares... by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 1

      Apple Kool Aid much?

    20. Re:Who Cares... by lagfest · · Score: 1

      If slashdot does a story on a security hole in Firefox, certainly a story of it being fixed is also appropriate.

  2. download record by halfEvilTech · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    So how about we set a download record for patches. oh wait we don't want to reset the clock for the multiple server failures like the original release.

  3. no crashes yet by mjs_ud · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Firefox 3 was crashing 3-10 times a day for me even after completely removing everything FF related. At the risk of jinxing myself I will say that I'm crash free on 3.0.1 for 4 hours now.

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    1. Re:no crashes yet by BPPG · · Score: 1

      I haven't reinstalled it the since ff3 release candidate 2 binary tarball for linux. It's crashed on me once, and I use flash sites like youtube and newgrounds regularly. I guess your mileage may vary.

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    2. Re:no crashes yet by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      Mine crashes every time I run it, but that's due to either no libpangocairo or no GTK+ 2.10 or someone deciding I shouldn't have permissions to be able to run X applications on that machine. But then that's probably not considered crashing as it never got running properly in the first place. So I'm running 2.0.0.16.

      At least I solved one of the crashes I used to get with it: a very long Javascript bookmark in the toolbar to open a Javascript console would crash the browser if it tried to display as a tooltip or if you tried to edit the bookmark.

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    3. Re:no crashes yet by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1
    4. Re:no crashes yet by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      If anyone here uses iMacros don't update to 3.0.1,as it kills iMacros dead. Since I have way too many iMacros scripts I'll be reinstalling 3.0 and waiting until an update for iMacros comes out.

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    5. Re:no crashes yet by penguin_dance · · Score: 1

      It will also apparently kill TabsPlus (yes, the one you can get at Download.com that DOES work with FF 3.0). And as, 1) I haven't had any problems with crashing and 2) there's no mention that they fixed the bug which caused tabs not to be saved (and I like TP better anyway), I'll stick with 3.0.

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    6. Re:no crashes yet by prandal · · Score: 1

      I could pretty reliably crash Firefox 3.0 by using the GMail Notifier statusbar icon to open GMail in a new tab, then closing that tab and doing something else in the other tab.

      Not so with Firefox 3.0.1.

      Looking good.

    7. Re:no crashes yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There was a weirdo problem that happened mostly to tablets with Vista where FF would randomly set off part of the Vista security system, and Windows would promptly tell you that the program had stopped working. The fix that I saw for it when I looked it up a few days ago was this version, which was in beta at the time.

    8. Re:no crashes yet by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      Here is the fix for iMacros,and it will probably work with your TabsPlus. The easiest way to do it is to download 7-Zip portable and then use it for the editing of the install.rdf file. Once it is edited you can update and simply drop the edited .xpi into Firefox and it works. I hope this helps.

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  4. *spit* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    This update disabled my Firebug and "Copy all Urls" extensions.

    I'll never take an update on the first day again. Ever. *spit*

    1. Re:*spit* by VGPowerlord · · Score: 1

      The Firebug version from July 14 seems to work fine on Firefox 3.0.1 for me.

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  5. Maybe we'll stop hearing about it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really, hopefully we'll stop hearing about this stupid 'vulnerability' and its 2,000 slashdot stories.

  6. And this is why... by arotenbe · · Score: 1, Insightful

    ... I didn't download Firefox 3 when it came out. In fact, I'm still on Firefox 2, and I'm sure a good percentage of fellow /.ers are as well.

    Remember: if there aren't any patches for it, chances are that the reason is not that it's bug-free, but that it's still buggy.

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    1. Re:And this is why... by gamanimatron · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I finally upgraded last night. So far, so good - it's certainly faster, and the most important mods to me (CSL and NoScript) seem to be working just fine.

      Of course, if it isn't all good then I'm screwed now, but c'est la vie.

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    2. Re:And this is why... by sricetx · · Score: 1

      I upgraded to Firefox 3, but had so many problems with it crashing and not rendering some sites correctly that I reverted to Firefox 2. Strangely, I only had problems with FF3 on my work machine running the Windows XP version (this is the one I rolled back to FF2). I haven't had any problems with it on my Linux machine (Kubuntu 8.04).

    3. Re:And this is why... by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Chances are that the reason is not that it's bug-free, but that it's still buggy.

      Chances are that you are not a developer.
      "He who is without a sin throw the first stone."

    4. Re:And this is why... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 5, Informative

      ... I didn't download Firefox 3 when it came out. In fact, I'm still on Firefox 2, and I'm sure a good percentage of fellow /.ers are as well.

      Um... the carpet bombing vulnerability also affects Firefox 2. It looks like someone is in trouble :)

    5. Re:And this is why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can be 99.999% sure that any code has bugs, unless it's been mathematically proven to be correct. And even then all bets are off as soon as it has to interact with anything else.

    6. Re:And this is why... by woot+account · · Score: 1

      I'm still on Firefox 2, and looking for a new browser. Unless they fix the URL bar, I'm not upgrading, and eventually they'll drop support for FFx 2, so...

    7. Re:And this is why... by quesogrande · · Score: 1

      http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox20.html 2 of the 3 mentioned bugs were fixed in the 2.0.0.16 release as well, so you weren't protecting yourself from much.

    8. Re:And this is why... by Random+BedHead+Ed · · Score: 1

      My problems are exactly identical (and I mean identical, with FF3 on my Windows XP work machine crashing constantly, but the one on my Kubuntu Hardy desktop is fine). I'd love to know what causes this. New profile, fresh install - none of it helps.

    9. Re:And this is why... by Random+BedHead+Ed · · Score: 1

      Unless they fix the URL bar, I'm not upgrading

      The Awesome Bar is awesome ... but if you disagree, I think you can turn it off, IIRC.

    10. Re:And this is why... by Random+BedHead+Ed · · Score: 1

      Do'h! Someone clarified this below

    11. Re:And this is why... by woot+account · · Score: 1

      Except that's misinformation that refuses to die. The about:config workaround doesn't fix it, and the OldBar extension just changes the way it looks.

    12. Re:And this is why... by ohxten · · Score: 1

      I prefer FF2 as well. The skin looks nicer, the urlbar functionality is more useful for me -- can't stand the awesomebar -- and there a few other minor things I don't like about FF3 and that I wasn't able, even with a lot of searching, to 'fix' using FF on OSX back when FF3 was first released.

      Once FF2 is discontinued I'll move on. Of course, I still prefer Opera as my main browser.

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    13. Re:And this is why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That issue is fixed in Firefox 2.0.0.16.

    14. Re:And this is why... by zullnero · · Score: 1

      Firefox 3 is basically a whole lot of bug fixes with a few behind the scenes additions. I never had nearly as many problems with FF2 as I have had with any of the IE browsers, but even then, FF3 contains a lot of fixes for bugs that seemingly bothered a lot of other people (like the memory leaks that I never seemed to have for some reason, even though I do pretty much the same stuff that a lot of /.ers do).

    15. Re:And this is why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chances are that the reason is not that it's bug-free, but that it's still buggy.

      Chances are that you are not a developer.

      "He who is without a sin throw the first stone."

      Its funny that when FF has a bug, people have the attitude of 'He who is without a sin throw the first stone', however if its a MS product, the stones start flying immediately - developer or not.

    16. Re:And this is why... by kesuki · · Score: 1

      i've been using firefox 3 since ubuntu went 8.04 LTS, i waited a wile to upgrade windows to FF3 ubuntu simply didn't leave me any choice.

    17. Re:And this is why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "He who is without a sin throw the first stone."

      no no no,

      It's:

      "If a man among you has no sin upon his hand, let him cast a stone at me for playing in the band."

    18. Re:And this is why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because that's where context comes in. History, mentality, past offenses - they all count. While I will be among the first to bash MS most of the time, I will also be first to bash Apple even more.

      I have no respect for corporate assholes.

      (Yes, I know about Mozilla. Read sentence #1 again).

    19. Re:And this is why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was simply too taxing to install the firefox-2 package, or even not upgrade to Ubuntu 8.04 for a couple of months?

    20. Re:And this is why... by kesuki · · Score: 1

      in a word: Yes.

      do not underestimate my laziness.

    21. Re:And this is why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      is there such a thing as bug-free software?

      didn't think so...

    22. Re:And this is why... by theMatrix777 · · Score: 1

      ... I didn't download Firefox 3 when it came out. In fact, I'm still on Firefox 2, and I'm sure a good percentage of fellow /.ers are as well.

      Um... the carpet bombing vulnerability also affects Firefox 2. It looks like someone is in trouble :)

      Lucky you. Stay with 2. I downloaded 3 and it was the biggest mistake I've ever made. My computer ran like a dog (when it would run) and it would freeze up about every 30 minutes. I finally went back to 2 and am as happy as can be. Now all my add-ons work, the computer stopped crashing.

      Why do they put out new products that are so buggy?

  7. "awesome bar" by Cantras · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So have they given us the option to disable their "awesome bar" yet?

    1. Re:"awesome bar" by -Tango21- · · Score: 5, Informative

      Hmm, a Google search reveals that while the "awesome bar" is still the default, you can disable it by following the directions below (but, maybe you already knew this):

      1. Type about:config into the location bar and change the value browser.urlbar.matchOnlyTyped to true. After this, you need to restart Firefox. All this does is make it so that Firefox only searches the URLs you have typed and not the titles of pages.

      2. Install the Old Location Bar extension. This changes the location bar so that it looks like how it looked in Firefox 2. As of me writing this post, it is an experimental addon so you will need to register to the Firefox addon service to install it.

    2. Re:"awesome bar" by Darkness404 · · Score: 1

      Yes, and there are tons of posts about it. Just Google, remove awesome bar. And you will get tons of ways to make it like the FF 2 toolbar.

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    3. Re:"awesome bar" by Qzukk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, well, the FF2 bar wasn't all that hot either. The only thing more annoying than waiting for the list of sites to never come up because you started typing while another tab was still loading, is having the list of sites popup while you're typing and since you had the mouse in the wrong location when you hit enter you went to some completely different place than you had expected.

      I don't care whether it's awesome or not, give me an option to make it not appear unless I press down or alt-down or tab or something that indicates that I want it to appear.

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    4. Re:"awesome bar" by pembo13 · · Score: 1

      I kinda like the so called awesome bar. What's wrong with it?

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    5. Re:"awesome bar" by tehBoris · · Score: 2, Funny

      I kinda like the so called awesome bar. What's wrong with it?

      The oldies want their URL bars to match URLs and those pesky kids to GET OFF THEIR LAWNS!

    6. Re:"awesome bar" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't find an "Old Location Bar" extension. But that's not really the point. The awesome bar doesn't bother me that much. However, I do miss the yellow SSL indicator. Is there a way to get that back?

    7. Re:"awesome bar" by ShadowRangerRIT · · Score: 3, Insightful
      1. Type 'co' in the Awesome bar. Marvel at how it "awesomely" returns every site in the .com TLD.
      2. If you are the type who remembers the URL of sites you visit, it just means a bunch of false positives.

      I've used it once to date, when going back to a walkthrough page on gamefaqs. 99% of the time, I know the address I'm going to, or I have it bookmarked, so the "awesomeness" is wasted on me.

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    8. Re:"awesome bar" by MMC+Monster · · Score: 1

      Matching co to .com is obviously a bug. As for those that remembers URLs, it is admittedly not too useful.

      That being said, if you are someone with a lot of bookmarks, it can really speed up looking for something in your bookmarks. It also brings this search ability to every page in your history, which is great for the unwashed masses that either don't understand bookmarks (really!) or just don't use them for whatever reason.

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    9. Re:"awesome bar" by andy9701 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Lifehacker has instructions on how to restore the yellow for SSL sites, among other nice UI changes (such as removing the Go and Search buttons from the Address and Search bars, respectively). It does require an extension (either Stylish or Greasemonkey), but it definitely works, I've been using this at home for a few weeks now.

    10. Re:"awesome bar" by woot+account · · Score: 2, Informative

      Which still doesn't fix it. Like the person below me said, type "co" in and watch it match every site you've typed that ends in ".com".

      Unfortunately, it seems that the Mozilla developers don't care if people dislike it.

    11. Re:"awesome bar" by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1

      1. Type about:config into the location bar and change the value browser.urlbar.matchOnlyTyped to true. After this, you need to restart Firefox. All this does is make it so that Firefox only searches the URLs you have typed and not the titles of pages.

      This doesn't seem to work on any FF3 install I have tried it - I have that value set to true (and I have restarted Firefox), and my URL bar still matches page titles as well as urls (example: I type 'the' intending to go to thedailywtf.com, and I get 'EADS NV - The latest press releases', 'The Boeing Company', 'isoHunt - the bittorrent and p2p search engine', 'Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia' among others, none of which have 'the' in the url, and all of which have 'the' in the page title highlighted in the drop down results box).

      And thats just on my home laptop, the same is true of both my works desktops - even with the value set to true the 'awesomebar' is still in effect.

      Firefox 3.0.1 incase anyone is wondering - on all machines. Not that matters, the setting has never made a difference for me. Oh, and its a clean Firefox install, I don't have any addons installed.

    12. Re:"awesome bar" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the bigger problem with "awesome" is that not everyone wants to have all their bookmarks show up when someone that's not them is using their computer. Lets say I bookmark my favorite site hotfeetsmooshingfecesonpuppiestrainingforthearmyandeatingjam.com
      and that I've bookmarked a few of my favorite pieces of erotica there for easy retrieval when I'm in the mood.

      A friend, or spouse even, sees me on my laptop and says "hey, can I check my email real quick?"

      I say yes and they go to Awesome Bar, type in hot (for hotmail)... and crap, how did that site get there? Let's try ya for my yahoo account... whoops.

      Now, I could make them sign off my account and reload windows or firefox in a new profile... but if you were to ask someone to use their computer for three minutes to check your email but they insist on shutting down programs and switching profiles, etc. it makes you wonder what they're trying to hide.

      At least pre-awesome hiding your pr0n was easy.

    13. Re:"awesome bar" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's wrong with it is that they took yet another idea from Opera to go ahead and implement badly.

    14. Re:"awesome bar" by woot+account · · Score: 1

      This is correct behaviour for the setting, which is why it pisses me off that people are still saying it's a fix. All that about:config entry changes is that it doesn't match your bookmarks, and it only matches pages you've visited by typing the URL in.

    15. Re:"awesome bar" by bunratty · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, you're doing what so many have taken to, misrepresenting what Mozilla developers say. As far as I can tell, two Mozilla developers responded in that bug report. One asked for specific details about exactly what about the Awesome Bar the user didn't like so preferences could be added to remove those aspects. When a user responded that certain about:config settings had the desired effect, another Mozilla developer agreed that the preferences already existed and concluded that there are no preferences to add. Most of the comments in that bug report (as in most Mozilla Bugzilla bug reports) are not from Mozilla developers. Is there a specific comment from a Mozilla developer that indicates they "don't care"?

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    16. Re:"awesome bar" by kesuki · · Score: 1

      but if you type 'co.' it shows all the co.uk co.jp or whatever you've been going to... is typing '.' after co such a pain?

    17. Re:"awesome bar" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you are the type who remembers the URL of sites you visit, it just means a bunch of false positives.

      Only the first few times you use it. The more you visit the site or select an entry based on what you type, that URL moves to the stop. I can now get most of the sites I go to by typing one character and then pressing enter.

    18. Re:"awesome bar" by bunratty · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I finally did what you suggested and typed "co" into the address bar. It gives fifteen suggestions, although I'm sure I go to many more than fifteen .com sites. The top suggestions were for COmputer documentation for where I work, COnsumer Reports magazine, COmputer Cable Store, two sites I frequent that are .com domains, and Weather Forecast and COnditions for my city. I fail to see the problem. Care to explain?

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    19. Re:"awesome bar" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about you type more than two letters of the URL or page title you are looking for, even for a slow typist it shouldn't take long to add an extra couple of letters. I'm not saying you have to like the new search behaviour, but if your going to give an example of it failing for you don't give one that seems contrived, you didn't even give an example of where the old behaviour would have got what you were looking for.

    20. Re:"awesome bar" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      If you are the type who remembers the URL of sites you visit, it just means a bunch of false positives.

      Eh, it was kind of disappointing the first time I typed "s" and slashdot didn't come up. But then after hitting the down arrow a couple times and then enter (tough I know), the next time I typed "s", slashdot came right up. Magic.

      Let's see: s=slashdot y=youtube g=gmail r=rapidshare t=TPB

      I couldn't be happier.

    21. Re:"awesome bar" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's really worth trying to adapt to make use of its features. In particular, you might find that "starring" sites you visit often and maybe giving it a relevant tag will be quite useful. I used to bookmark everything, but trying to keep them organised was too much of a hassle so I gave up on that, and started just remembering URLs.

      This worked fairly well, and what I'd read about people complaining about how the "awesome bar" finds every site you've ever been to made me hesitant of upgrading to Firefox 3, but I actually have found it is easier to use in a lot of cases. For example, recently I was playing with Linux-HA and every now and then needed to refer back to the site for documentation on particular agents. This previously would've required browsing through my history (after trying to remember how long ago I visited the site) and hoping the page titles were sane, or going to the site and navigating through it to what I want. Now I can just type "ha ipaddr" and up comes the pages describing the IPaddr resource agents. Nice.

      Or, when I want to check if anything has happened with the bug report I filed on squid, I can just type "squid bug" and get a list of the bugzilla page. (Nup, nothing's happened.)

      It's like having bookmarks for every page you've ever visited, with a convenient search interface. And if traditional bookmarks are your thing, it's easy to "star" a page and that makes it show up at the top of search results.

      Also, if you know the address you're trying to get to, you can usually think of a fairly unique or specific portion of it and save yourself some typing.

      ~ totally bogus dude (AC because I've been moderating you bastards)

    22. Re:"awesome bar" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're really freaking lucky?

      "CO" for me brings up a bunch of ".com" sites with no instances of "CO" in the page title until it finally hits "bestbuy.com" which has a page title of "bestbuy.com" so I guess that doesn't count.

      In fact, the only site it lists that actually has "co" in the page title, other than "bestbuy.com", is the Dilbert website. The title on that page is "The official Dilbert website with Scott Adams' color comic strips, animation, mashups and more!:" and so it hits on the "co" in "Scott", "color", and "comic".

      Other than that, every single hit on the list is listed due to ".com" in the address. Including, for reasons I don't want to speculate on, some random Google Maps search I made. Not "maps.google.com" but a random search. Awesome.

    23. Re:"awesome bar" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want millions of preferences, and every possible combination of features, then get Seamonkey, or write a Firefox extension to do that. Firefox was explicitly created to be a simplified browsing experience that covers what 99% of us need 99% of the time.

  8. To to prevent the issue I need to use Firefox? by techess · · Score: 5, Funny
    From http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2008/mfsa2008-35.html

    Workaround
    This attack only works if the user is using another internet-connected application with Firefox not running. Using Firefox, or making sure it is at least running, prevents this attack.

    I had to giggle at the workaround. To prevent a firefox flaw from biting you, you need to have firefox open. Phew, I'm so glad I'm safe.

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    1. Re:To to prevent the issue I need to use Firefox? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had to giggle at the workaround. To prevent a Firefox flaw from biting you, you need to have Firefox open. Phew, I'm so glad I'm safe.

      I imagine on Windows the bug you mention could be pretty serious. Especially if you are the one that told your Windows friend to install Firefox. And when said friend uses IE, and since Firefox is not running when he uses IE , the bug bites him.

      Moving on to Linux, i wonder if chkrootkit ( or similar ) will, in the future, start checking for things like this.

  9. When will Microsoft fix IE? by argent · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So far as I know, the only application that normally runs with its current directory on the desktop (and is thus a potential target for any successful exploit of this issue) is Internet Explorer.

    1. Re:When will Microsoft fix IE? by initdeep · · Score: 1, Interesting

      maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but I know a lot of people that change their download directory default in Firefox to the desktop.

    2. Re:When will Microsoft fix IE? by dnwq · · Score: 2, Informative

      You're misunderstanding him, he means working directory

    3. Re:When will Microsoft fix IE? by argent · · Score: 3, Informative

      When you run an application from Windows Explorer, it is normally run with its current directory set to the directory that the executable is located in. The vulnerability exposed by the "carpet bombing" attack involved attacking Internet Explorer, because Internet Explorer runs with its current directory set to the desktop... not the directory containing the IE executable. There is no obvious reason why IE does this, nor any reason I can come up with for Microsoft not to change it.

  10. Workaround by brunes69 · · Score: 3, Informative

    This attack only works if the user is using another internet-connected application with Firefox not running. Using Firefox, or making sure it is at least running, prevents this attack.

    So as long as you use Firefox all day long, you will not be affected.

    1. Re:Workaround by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      As more and more applications are becoming Web Based. Developers having 1 browser open is stupid, as they need to test different environments.

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    2. Re:Workaround by snl2587 · · Score: 1

      Or use the IE tab extension...switches rendering in a heartbeat. That takes care of two of the browser.

    3. Re:Workaround by thrillseeker · · Score: 1

      Well, there's VirtualBox, for example.

    4. Re:Workaround by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *browsers

    5. Re:Workaround by Nos. · · Score: 1

      Developers are a relatively small subset of users. Arguably, they should be somewhat more aware of the risks/vulnerabilities in the browsers they are using.

    6. Re:Workaround by igaborf · · Score: 2, Funny

      So as long as you use Firefox all day long, you will not be affected.

      "But boss, I have to browse the Web all day."

    7. Re:Workaround by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Or you just click on the Firefox icon, Opera icon, and Internet Explorer icon. Then you just use them. Why do you want to make things more complex

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    8. Re:Workaround by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you, sir, are a fucking idiot. there is no way launching another browser (and typing the URL in or copy\pasting it) is faster than clicking the rendering icon to change from firefox -> IE and back. also a great way to convert people to firefox as they quickly realise how lagged IE is on all operations.

      btw you can find the IE tab addon here

    9. Re:Workaround by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Yes there is it is called a script. Once Click 3 browsers load up. and display it. Beside normal usage for development has him trying a fix for the broken browser (ie, IE) then just go back to see if the fix didn't break the others. So normally just having them loaded you just hit the refresh until it renders the way that you wanted. Also there are other issues to test out too. the default browsers have different heights of tool bars and sometime widths as well. If you want the page to defaultly fit on a say 1024x768 screen you need to make sure that the buttons and tabs of the different browsers don't interfere with that.

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  11. Ironic timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    As I was reading this post, the update was auto-downloading.

  12. Another software release post? by dnwq · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Slashdot needs a "important software updates" section.

    1. Re:Another software release post? by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      Slashdot needs a "important software updates" section.

      In addition, or as a replacement for, the "stuff that matters" section?

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  13. Re: head in the sand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    (released the day before yesterday)
    http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox20.html
    Fixed in Firefox 2.0.0.16
    MFSA 2008-35 Command-line URLs launch multiple tabs when Firefox not running
    MFSA 2008-34 Remote code execution by overflowing CSS reference counter

    (released yesterday)
    http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox30.html
    Fixed in Firefox 3.0.1
    MFSA 2008-36 Crash with malformed GIF file on Mac OS X
    MFSA 2008-35 Command-line URLs launch multiple tabs when Firefox not running
    MFSA 2008-34 Remote code execution by overflowing CSS reference counter

    Whew! Good thing you didn't upgrade! You might have been vulnerable for a whole extra day! (Wait, you did take the 2.0.0.16 update already, right?)

  14. Re:I am with Linus on this one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Clever name troll twitter.

    We should have a new mod option, -1 twitter

  15. crash crashing or? by Fallen+Andy · · Score: 4, Informative
    OK, if you saw the following I may have an answer for you. If you installed FF3 and around a day or two later mysteriously it seemed to put up the hourglass cursor with the disk thrashing a lot, then you got bitten by the urlclassifier db (anti-phishing sqlite database) being downloaded. After a day or so things go back to normal. (It would look more like a temporary freeze of the program rather than a crash to the desktop).

    For anyone on a slow connection or with an old machine (like me) that was almost a showstopper. Thankfully, *seems* to be fixed now.Haven't seen any real crashes to the desktop even with the betas...

    A workaround is to go Tools->Options-> Security and turn off the attack site and forgery options.

    Andy

    1. Re:crash crashing or? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Fx 3 completely freezes my laptop, puts up the hourglass, and the HDD activity light goes solid every time I open it. It does that for about 30 seconds and then it works. As soon as I click the URL bar it does it again and then stops. Once I try to load the page, it locks up yet again. My Fx 3 install on my laptop (XP SP2) is completely broken. I unchecked the boxes under the options that people recommended, I also tried the Linux fix of changing the size of something (can't remember) sqllite related in about:config. I tried reinstalling it and I tried running it in safe mode without addons. I eventually had to download and start using Fx 3 portable, which is working so far. Fx 3 standard continues to work ok on my desktop. I don't know what the deal is, but it's been very disappointing.

    2. Re:crash crashing or? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      You need to remove antiphishing filter, delete it's database file, finger it, and chmod it uneditable on Linux.

      On windows, create an empty file, replace the antiphishing database with it, set it as read only and preferably change permissions so you cannot edit it.

      Or, if you're using XP Home, you're fucked.

    3. Re:crash crashing or? by inode_buddha · · Score: 1

      I dunno how to help directly but I do offer a data point. I've been using FF since day one, and Netscape before that, all on linux boxes. They generally don't like any kind of scripting in my experience, either Flash or Java. I do use a decent hosts file and script blocking but it still chokes on some sites. FWIW my hardware is older but respectable: dual intel coppermines at 1 gHz and big RAM on a cable modem.

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  16. I didn't even know there was a problem. by DamienNightbane · · Score: 2, Informative

    Now if only they could get around to fixing the much bigger memory issues that seem to get worse and worse with every release. I'm getting tempted to go back to IE for the first time in years.

    1. Re:I didn't even know there was a problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would a little encouragement help you make up your mind?

      JUST FUCKIN' GO BACK TO IE, YOU PUSILLANIMOUS PUTZ!

      hth,

      AC

    2. Re:I didn't even know there was a problem. by snl2587 · · Score: 1

      Ok, seriously: what are these memory issues everyone keeps bitching about? I keep open a considerable selection of tabs myself with low memory usage...and I haven't even made the optimizations for lower memory usage. I'm yet to see any evidence of these "memory issues".

    3. Re:I didn't even know there was a problem. by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 3, Informative

      Nice to repeat the same ol' FUD, but you do realize that FF3 memory usage is significantly lower than FF2 and IE, don't you? You /did/ know that, right?

    4. Re:I didn't even know there was a problem. by maxume · · Score: 1

      You are using a broken plug in or extension. Memory usage in 3.0 is better than it was in 2.0, and the later 2.0.0.x releases saw reductions in leaks.

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    5. Re:I didn't even know there was a problem. by galaxia26 · · Score: 1

      I can personally attest to lower memory usage by Firefox 3. I usually keep upwards of fifteen tabs open (I visit a lot of sites regularly, several times a day). On FF2, I was getting upwards of five-hundred megabytes of memory usage. Now with FF3 it stays well below 250 meg. MUCH better than FF3. It's not fantastic, but it's better.

    6. Re:I didn't even know there was a problem. by Lorkki · · Score: 1

      Flash eats memory and CPU in gleeful amounts and is the only way I've gotten similar results, so my wild guess is that people aren't bothering to filter ads and just leave them running in old tabs while they continue browsing. Can't confirm it, though, since I've never been able to get much details out of someone who claims to experience this.

  17. Don't worry. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been using the Firefox 3 nightly builds since they introduced the new theming (the Mac version started looking decent at that point). In all that time--remember, this is a nightly build--I've had about three crashes. I've had no crashes since installing Firefox 3.
     
     

    Remember: if there aren't any patches for it, chances are that the reason is not that it's bug-free, but that it's still buggy.

    What's that supposed to mean? We're not talking about a whole new project here, or a brand-new operating system--Firefox 3 is a bunch of patches over Firefox 2. Give it a chance.

  18. You may find this useful by p3d0 · · Score: 3, Informative
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  19. Ubuntu Repos by martinw89 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I could swear that I was notified of a security update regarding Firefox a few days ago. After the update, I checked Firefox and it's own About dialog reported it was 3.0.1. Can anyone else confirm this or am I going bonkers? I'm certainly on 3.0.1 now and I only received some mundane updates this morning.

    1. Re:Ubuntu Repos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to this: http://marilab.hp.infoseek.co.jp/buildfx/index_en.html I've been using 3.0.2pre since the 4th, which leads me to believe it was released shortly before that day.

    2. Re:Ubuntu Repos by pablomme · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I would guess you have the 'proposed' repository enabled.

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    3. Re:Ubuntu Repos by Flyers2391 · · Score: 0

      Yes, you are not alone, I received it over this past weekend if I remember correctly

    4. Re:Ubuntu Repos by traabil · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing you downloaded the Beta of FF3 before it was released. This tags you as a "tester" of some sorts, and you are eligible to receive pre-releases. Atleast this is what happened to me. YMMV

    5. Re:Ubuntu Repos by andy9701 · · Score: 1

      This happened to me as well. From what I recall, there was some text on the dialog indicating that since I installed some Betas/RCs of 3.0, that they pushed the beta of 3.0.1 out to me as well.

      I'm not sure if there is anyway to toggle this "feature" on or off (other than manually installing a non-final build), but it seems like a good idea - get some more random testing done on even the security releases can't hurt.

    6. Re:Ubuntu Repos by martinw89 · · Score: 1

      Yup, that would be it. I didn't realize proposed applies to getting security updates early as well. Thanks

    7. Re:Ubuntu Repos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I expect the only way to turn it off is by downloading and installing a release build. I got an update for Thunderbird a day or two ago, and the release notes page tells you how to check if you're in the beta channel, but it also says (Note: The effective value cannot be changed through the Config Editor. If you wish to exclude yourself from the beta program you must download and install the latest production release as mentioned above.)

      For Firefox, you can check by entering about:config in the location bar, and then in the filter put in app.update.channel

      Mine says "release" so I guess I installed a release build of Firefox on this PC; if it says "beta" you'll get earlier builds.

      I also concur that this is a pretty good idea.

  20. Re:I am with Linus on this one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Stop being such a dick twitter.

  21. Addons? by anuj2202 · · Score: 1

    Okay, just downloaded the version 3.0.1. What do I see now? My Google toolbar is gone, adblock not working, all other add-ons seem to be dead. Any idea when will the add-ons be updated?

    1. Re:Addons? by slimjim8094 · · Score: 3, Informative

      when the authors update them?

      of course, you could google for a couple of seconds and fix it yourself (hint: you can force it to ignore the version)

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    2. Re:Addons? by thedistrict · · Score: 1

      I echo your sentiments, but for the time being, I think that we're just going to have to wait it out. I mean, many of the developers of these addons have other jobs anyway. Eventually the updates will come. For the time being though, I really like the product

    3. Re:Addons? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just installed 3.0.1 on Vista and Adblock plus worked fine. Have you tried tools -> addons -> find updates? Are you using Adblock plus 0.7.5.5?

    4. Re:Addons? by molecularaz · · Score: 0

      funny all my add-ons still work including the ones you stated. Even my Aero theme still works fine.

  22. Hear hear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The other day I had about 180 tabs open (cleaning up my del.icio.us) and memory usage was about 600MB. That's a whole three megabytes per tab! What's wrong with these people?! :)

  23. Slashmeat by tepples · · Score: 1

    Slashdot needs a "important software updates" section.

    I thought it was called "Freshmeat".

  24. Yup, opposite of what I expected by davidwr · · Score: 1

    I expect Slashdot to either have news of events before they go live or after a 7-day delay, depending on the phase of the moon and CowboyNeal's health.

    I never expect it to be "right on time."

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  25. Yeah that's way too much by davidwr · · Score: 1

    Back in my day we had to squeeze all our tabs in 640KB!

    And there were only 5 computers on the whole planet!

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    1. Re:Yeah that's way too much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you had to carry web sites between computers on stacks of punch cards, with no labels to let you know what order they go in. And the computers are all uphill from each other, both ways. Through a raging blizzard. And wild dogs. Starved wild dogs that have been taunted by the neighbour's kid for the past month.

      And we liked it!

  26. FF2 *got the same fix*. Tuesday. by rickst29 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The update for FF2 was pushed out a day before the FF3 update (on Tuesday morning, versus Wednesday afternoon). If you aren't using 2.0.0.16, you're prone to the same attack.

  27. Ah, I see by p3d0 · · Score: 1

    Usually when people say "ironic" I assume they're using it incorrectly, and I think this is the first time I've been wrong. :-)

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    1. Re:Ah, I see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's ironic.

  28. HHGTTG by JoCat · · Score: 1

    Who would want to bomb a carpet company?

  29. Never been carpet bombed. by Peow · · Score: 1

    Except for on Windows 98... I didn't even know Mozilla had a carpet bombing issue. My only issue with Mozilla is the fact that it just randomly crashes out of nowhere. For no reason that I can think of. Not often, but it happens. I'm on Vista, I expect everything to crash! :((

    Even The Sims 2 crashes unexpectedly, along with every other game I own. Stupid Dell. Stupid Ranting. Stupid Vista! STUPID ME! :(

    Sorry, getting off topic ^_^

  30. Re: URL bar. by rickst29 · · Score: 1

    if it's just the appearance changes (i.e., SSL sites not shown in yellow, big layout) you can use "old location bar", but you might also look at changing your theme: "classic compact" looks pretty much as Firefox 2 did, and it saves a lot of vertical space too. (Nice on laptops.) I use it, and install it on all my customer's machines. Instructions below, to prevent pop-up of matches, are excellent.

  31. Re: URL bar. by woot+account · · Score: 1

    The appearance doesn't really bother me. It's the matching algorithm. Typing in "ca" should match carrionfields.com, but it shouldn't match chewbac.ca in my opinion.

  32. whenever Firefox is mentioned on slashdot .. by rs232 · · Score: 1

    Whenever Firefox is mentioned on slashdot, make sure to bring up the memory leak issue .. :)

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  33. Re:Nothing to say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    http://slashdot.org/moderation.shtml go learn something. damn fool kids...

  34. Re:"awesome bar" -- try using it more than once by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For those who can't memorize every URL, the awesome bar works perfectly!

    Typing in "cnet" shows the *.cnet.* you visited. You don't have to remember to prefix it with www./asia./news. first to get the correct selection ... and typing "cnet eee" will show you that review you wanted to read again (cnet is part of the URL, eee is part of the title, works like tagging).

    And if you type "co", like your example, and select the "compiz.org" page you actually wanted and ignore every .com it also highlights, it will give compiz prio over .com the next time and put it first.

  35. cywin allows permission changes on XP Home by Steve+J+83 · · Score: 1

    Install cygwin to get full chmod support, even on XP Home...

  36. Good... by morari · · Score: 1

    Now fix the Awesome Bar so that I can revert back to the way address bars should work!

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  37. Re: URL bar. by brunascle · · Score: 1

    eventually that should change.

    I used to type just "ma" to get mail.myemployersdomain.com, but it was bringing up slashdot ("Slashdot: News for nerds, stuff that matters"). eventually, after typing "mail" for long enough, now mail.myemployersdomain.com is the first thing that comes up when I just type "ma".

  38. Re:Nothing to say by MikeDirnt69 · · Score: 1

    It's sad, but in the last couple of months a lot of trolls and flamers are screwing with /. topics. If you don't have nothing good to say or want to be the first to post, please keep it for yourself and don't mess with the thing. []Âs

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  39. Re:I am with Bjarne on this one by leenks · · Score: 1

    http://developer.yahoo.net/blog/archives/2007/07/yahoo-hadoop.html

    Besides, Google's search engine doesn't run on MapReduce - they use MapReduce to build the indexes. The key with Google is the GFS...

  40. Just a tip. by Hillgiant · · Score: 1

    Truecrypt + portable Firefox = pr0n hidden

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  41. The browser, much like the OS... by ElboRuum · · Score: 1

    Is not subject to the "my blank is cooler and better than your blank" ethos.

    Slashdot, of course, must be contrarian on this point. "My blank is the best of all possible blanks, and you can blank off if you don't blanking think so."

    Tell me, do you want to spend the rest of your life window shopping for the awsumest browser or do you just want to pick one that doesn't splash buttcrack juice all over your hard drive and use the bloody thing?

    You know, that question I just asked seems rhetorical, but /. rules of etiquette demand a response.

    1. Re:The browser, much like the OS... by Vectronic · · Score: 1

      lol... I "switched"... my first "Web browser" was Netscape Navigator (around 1994, Mac) then when I got my own PC, it was Windows, so IE, followed shortly by Linux (uh, wasnt IE), but basically IE, bit of NetNav (2000), then Opera, then Pheonix came out, switched to that strictly, till it became Firefox, then went back to (and remain with) Opera.

      However, I have IE7, and FireFox 3.01 (along with Maxthon, and K-Meleon) installed along side Opera 9.52, there's the odd time I may need one of them for something, even if its just to verify some Browser War debate.

      Personally, I like to know what they are all 'up to' and am interesting in hearing about new ones, even if they are for OS's I dont use anymore, or ever (ie: Mac, Solaris, etc).

      I dont have any reason to leave Opera at the moment, it works for me great, but that doesnt mean its a blind faith, and I shun all other browsers as inferior, nor do I consider a web browser that might be better at something as being heresy to 'my beloved browser'.

      But maybe I missed your point, or possibly im just rambling to myself.

  42. No more carpet bombing? by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 1

    Well it's too late for the Afghanis and the Iraqis, but I'm sure the Iranians are relieved that there is a patch to stop them getting carpet bombed.

  43. DEFENDER of the favicon fixed by BOFslime · · Score: 1

    3.0.1 resolves the problem of "[Firefox3] suffers from garbage collection hick up" in Defender of the favicon

    Now I can get back to gaming in the corner of my address bar.

  44. A brief future history of the awesome bar by violet16 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Let me save you some time and map out your journey to acceptance of the awesome bar.

    First you hate it, because it's new and different to what you expect. You are trained to use it as an address bar and nothing else, so it acting like a search bar is confusing and suboptimal to you.

    At this point many people decide to trial the new bar, but you are the kind of person who tends to think he (forgive me, but he) knows what's good and what's not, and even quite enjoy the idea of customizing your Firefox. So you look for a way to preserve your old behavior. There are enough people like you to make worthwhile a mass solution: a config option and an extension.

    You and your anti-awesome fellows make use of these. You occasionally grumble that the awesome bar shouldn't be default at all, but you are basically satisfied so the rest of the world hears from you less and less.

    As time passes, you occasionally find yourself using other people's computers that have Firefox in a default state. This annoys you at first and if you are spending any serious time on them, you disable the awesome bar. But sometimes you're only using them briefly, so it's not worth modifying. Then, all of a sudden, you find the awesome bar useful. It's a surprise, like a door opening: you suddenly see that if you alter your behavior a little, the awesome bar could be quite useful.

    From this point you never disable the awesome bar again, although you leave it disabled on your main desktop, as a matter of principle.

    A new version of Firefox is released. The "Disable Firefox Awesome Bar" extension hasn't yet been updated to work on it. But by now you don't really mind. You now prefer the awesome bar. When you have to use Internet Explorer, or Firefox 2, the lack of an awesome bar bugs you. It seems so inflexible, so archaic.

    A while later, the author of the awesome-disabling extension stops updating it. People forget that anybody ever didn't like the awesome bar. But this new Firefox feature, the predictive URL form mapping--oh man, that's just so horrible, why is it on by default?

  45. Re:Nothing to say by Baruch+Atta · · Score: 0
    OH SOOOOO SERIOUS. Get a life. Like if i take /. with a little irreverence, it will affect the blog.

    And if you have been paying attention, a good majority of the posts are "funny". Even the ones moderated otherwise.

    Do some research, moron. DSRM.

    /. is a place to have fun, as much as anything else - that's exactly the attraction.

    And if you haven't caught on by now, (and obviously you haven't) my first post was a comment on the article itself. Who picks these anyway? Regardless, get a SOH. Or go post somewhere els.

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  46. Update was late -1 day late in Europe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    proof* Posted by CmdrTaco on Thursday July 17, @12:29PM The update was Today,July17 For Europe time @20:50mm ,and im working at my comp from 19:00mm..whats rong? is not 1 or 2 hours its a hole day!