Democracy actually worked here! The population seemed apprehensive about the bill, and congress decided that it was best to address the problem in smaller steps.
While watching C-Span today I think my favorite line was from Brad Sherman (D-CA): "Just because all of your constituents oppose this bill does not make it an act of courage to vote for it."
Meanwhile, Congress is going to keep trying to give $700B to the financial sector.
Don't worry, the Federal Reserve is to the rescue. While everyone was watching Congress on the bailout the FED decided to pump $630 billion into the financial system.
what else? outlaw encryption? so no one can use their bank online anymore?
If it were up to the Clinton appointed FBI Director Louis Freeh encryption would be outlawed, at least to the extent that the government would have a backdoor in any encryption scheme.
Remember when John Ashcroft defended encryption and was against Clinton wanting to listen to people's e-mails? Funny how things change so quickly when you get more power.
The at least once daily "survey" every corporate gas station in the US has to do everyday can't be passed off as anything but price fixing / a trust.
That's not ever going to happen. Composite government funds (investment funds and otherwise) own a majority stake in Exxon and probably most other publicly traded oil companies. The state of New York had 24.8 million shares of Exxon in 2006.
Could it be that our own Government over the last several decades has been promoting to those fortune 500 companies, of which Government owns most through Bond - Loan investment / stock ownership [EXAMPLES: 82% stock ownership of Microsoft Corporation, Disney 61%, AOL - Time Warner 58%, EXXON 72%] to manufacture abroad so that Government would realize greater returns on their investments at the Peoples of the USA's expense in jobs and wealth retention.
It should be pretty obvious why most corporations are allowed to run roughshod over the American people. If they properly investigated these companies it would cut into their bottom line. Welcome to the Corporation of the United States of America!
Just google CAFR with any state, city, country, school district, etc... to find out how much money they are hiding from you.
It is admitted that the first WTC bombing in 1993 was done BY the FBI. It even came out in the New York Times and in a CBS News broadcast.
The leader of the group to blow up the WTC in 1993 was an FBI informant. They were supposed to build a phony bomb and set the other guys up. When it came time to put in the fake powder, the FBI gave him real powder! The informant was so upset about it he secretly recorded his conversations with the FBI.
Of course the NYT and CBS didn't say the FBI did it. They claim the FBI failed to stop it, although its admitted that the FBI was supposed to supply the fake powder to the informant. The news stories fail to mention that the FBI gave him real powder. But I suppose that was an accident too.
SackBoy had to find his way up the monster, go through its digestive track while dodging stomach acid and eventually get on top of its head
FROG KING: Lemmiwinks, you must find your way out of this place, or you will surely die. This way has been closed off by the great sphinctor. To escape, you must journey up to the dark reaches of the intestine and pass the stomach! Who am I? Just a friend. Heed my words, Lemmiwinks. Your time is running out. Make for the large intestine. Start straight ahead.
SONG: A great adventure is waiting for you ahead. Hurry onward Lemmiwinks, for you will soon be dead. The journey before you may be long and filled with woe. But you must escape the gay man's ass, or your tale can't be told.
Lemmiwinks, Lemmiwinks, Lemmiwinks, Lemmiwinks!
Lemmiwink's journey is distant, far and fast! To find his way out of a gay man's ass! The road ahead is filled with danger and fright! But push onward Lemmiwinks with all of your might!
FROG KING: Lemmiwinks, you are coming to the enterance off the small intestine! There you must seek out The Sparrow Prince!
SONG: The Sparrow Prince lies somewhere way up ahead! Don't look back lemmiwinks, or you will soon be dead! Lemmiwinks, Lemmiwinks, the time is growing late. Slow down now, and seal your fate.
*Sparrow Prince Appears* SPARROW PRINCE: I am The Sparrow Prince! Long has my spirit been trapped within this place! Before you lies the maze of the small intestine. One path leads to the stomach, the other to certain doom. Take with you this helmet and torch. Let them be your guide! *Gives Lemmiwinks a helmet with a torch*
SONG: Take the magic helmet-torch to help you light the way, there's still alot of ground to cross inside the man so gay! Ahead of you lies adventure, and your stregnth still lies within! Freedom from the ass of doom is the treasure you will win!
DEEP SONG: Lemmiwinks came to the stomach now. 'neath the dance of the lungs and heart.
*Catata Fish appears*
CATATA FISH: You have chosen your path wisely Lemmiwinks! I am the Catata Fish!
DEEP SONG: Catata fish of the stomach's cove!
CATATA FISH: If you answer this riddle, the esophogus will let you pass.
DEEP SONG: Catata fish's riddle will soon be told!
Later...
FROG KING: Hang on Lemmiwinks! You solved the Catata Fish's riddle, your trials are nearly through!
MR. SLAVE: *coughs out lemmiwinks*
SONG: Lemmiwinks has made it out, his tale is nearly through!
CATATA FISH: Great job, lemmiwinks!
SPARROW PRINCE: Thanks to you we are all free!
FROG KING: But your adventures are just beginning! *Takes off Lemmiwinks' helmet* You are no ordinary gerbil Lemmiwinks, you are the Gerbil King! *Puts crown on Lemmiwinks' head*
ALL ANIMAL GHOSTS: All hail the gerbil king!
SONG: Now that you're the Gerbil king has more adventures to go on! Fly away to faraway lands and to the setting sun! So many enemies and battles yet to fight! For Lemmiwinks the Gerbil King's tale is told throughout the night!
Or, as some people have just shown in this post's immediate parent, plug in the my-boob-tube's-better-than-yours tube and far more productively spend your time lecturing others on online forums about how much better you are than them because you don't watch one specific form of digital entertainment.
I get paid to lecture others on online forums about how much better I am than others, just don't tell my employer.
Add up every other state, county and city that owns Microsoft stock and it could really pile up.
Could it be that our own Government over the last several decades has been promoting to those fortune 500 companies, of which Government owns most through Bond - Loan investment / stock ownership [EXAMPLES: 82% stock ownership of Microsoft Corporation, Disney 61%, AOL - Time Warner 58%, EXXON 72%] to manufacture abroad so that Government would realize greater returns on their investments at the Peoples of the USA's expense in jobs and wealth retention.
Joe Lieberman and his staff have been actively censoring youtube under the guise of Senate Bill 1959: Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 since May. The bill hasn't passed the Senate yet, but it hasn't stopped Lieberman from pressuring google to delete any video and accounts he wants.
This video describes what is going on pretty well.
This veteran gives Lieberman a piece of his mind on the issue.
MIT has been trying to track down what videos are being taken down and why. http://youtomb.mit.edu/
100% of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the Federal Debt... all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services taxpayers expect from government.
-Grace Commission report submitted to President Ronald Reagan - January 15, 1984
I'm sure I'll now be called crazy for simply reading a public document released by our own government.
Funny, I'm sick of third-party supporters telling me that the democrats are the republicans are "the same," which is an utter lie
Not every democrat and republican are the same, however the leadership of both parties are almost always controlled by the same interests. That's why the "Republican Revolution" in the 90's did nothing and why the Democratic Congress has done nothing thus far.
These seven Wall Street firms are (in order of money given): Goldman Sachs, UBS AG, Lehman Brothers, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley and Credit Suisse.
I won't bother looking up McCain's top donors because it'll be close to the same. Remember that McCain was also one of the Keating 5 (same type of scandal we see unfolding now except with a lot more money).
Neither are against pre-emptive war or leave anything off the table when dealing with Iran (including a nuclear first strike). Just listen to Obama's speech to AIPAC, which he gave the day after Hillary conceded defeat in the primaries.
They both want to "get out" of Iraq, which means keeping 50k+ troops in the permanent bases and the biggest embassy in the world. They both will add troops into Afghanistan.
Both support the NATO puppet Saakashvili (the guy who eats ties on TV and attacked S. Ossetia). Why is there a need to surround Russia with NATO and be belligerant towards them? Maybe you should read Obama's mentor and one time advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski's book The Grand Chessboard to find out.
I'm sick and tired of hearing people say that McCain is running for Bush's 3rd term (not because it isn't true), but because no one talks about Biden running for Dick Cheney's 3rd term.
Ex-Post Facto applies to Article 1 Section 9, which puts limits on what Congress can do.
No bill of attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed
Here is part of the wikipedia entry you forgot to read
Conversely, a form of ex post facto law commonly known as an amnesty law may decriminalize certain acts or alleviate possible punishments retroactively.
If we had a decent judicial system (which we don't) the FISA bill would be struck down pretty quickly.
This is the exact kind of thing the framers of the Constitution had in mind when writing it.
That's exactly what elections used to be like. You'd come in with a piece of paper, write down your candidate, put it in a box in the middle of the room and leave.
Now we have the 2 party system where the 2 parties do everything in their power to block 3rd party candidates from getting onto the ballot and in debates. That's how we came to get pre-printed ballots and the need for signatures and/or money to be on it (depending on the state).
Obama actually "won" his first race in 1996 by getting enough signatures scrubbed off of his opponents ballot initiative.
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I wonder if "covers" of songs made with Mario Paint ever get DMCA take down notices.
Democracy actually worked here! The population seemed apprehensive about the bill, and congress decided that it was best to address the problem in smaller steps.
While Democracy was working the Federal Reserve was creating $630 billion out of nothing and putting it into the financial system.
While watching C-Span today I think my favorite line was from Brad Sherman (D-CA): "Just because all of your constituents oppose this bill does not make it an act of courage to vote for it."
Meanwhile, Congress is going to keep trying to give $700B to the financial sector.
Don't worry, the Federal Reserve is to the rescue. While everyone was watching Congress on the bailout the FED decided to pump $630 billion into the financial system.
Democracy works!
what else? outlaw encryption? so no one can use their bank online anymore?
If it were up to the Clinton appointed FBI Director Louis Freeh encryption would be outlawed, at least to the extent that the government would have a backdoor in any encryption scheme.
Remember when John Ashcroft defended encryption and was against Clinton wanting to listen to people's e-mails? Funny how things change so quickly when you get more power.
The at least once daily "survey" every corporate gas station in the US has to do everyday can't be passed off as anything but price fixing / a trust.
That's not ever going to happen. Composite government funds (investment funds and otherwise) own a majority stake in Exxon and probably most other publicly traded oil companies. The state of New York had 24.8 million shares of Exxon in 2006.
Could it be that our own Government over the last several decades has been promoting to those fortune 500 companies, of which Government owns most through Bond - Loan investment / stock ownership [EXAMPLES: 82% stock ownership of Microsoft Corporation, Disney 61%, AOL - Time Warner 58%, EXXON 72%] to manufacture abroad so that Government would realize greater returns on their investments at the Peoples of the USA's expense in jobs and wealth retention.
http://cafr1.com/
It should be pretty obvious why most corporations are allowed to run roughshod over the American people. If they properly investigated these companies it would cut into their bottom line. Welcome to the Corporation of the United States of America!
Just google CAFR with any state, city, country, school district, etc... to find out how much money they are hiding from you.
It is admitted that the first WTC bombing in 1993 was done BY the FBI. It even came out in the New York Times and in a CBS News broadcast.
The leader of the group to blow up the WTC in 1993 was an FBI informant. They were supposed to build a phony bomb and set the other guys up. When it came time to put in the fake powder, the FBI gave him real powder! The informant was so upset about it he secretly recorded his conversations with the FBI.
Of course the NYT and CBS didn't say the FBI did it. They claim the FBI failed to stop it, although its admitted that the FBI was supposed to supply the fake powder to the informant. The news stories fail to mention that the FBI gave him real powder. But I suppose that was an accident too.
SackBoy had to find his way up the monster, go through its digestive track while dodging stomach acid and eventually get on top of its head
FROG KING: Lemmiwinks, you must find your way out of this place, or you will surely die. This way has been closed off by the great sphinctor. To escape, you must journey up to the dark reaches of the intestine and pass the stomach! Who am I? Just a friend. Heed my words, Lemmiwinks. Your time is running out. Make for the large intestine. Start straight ahead.
SONG: A great adventure is waiting for you ahead. Hurry onward Lemmiwinks, for you will soon be dead. The journey before you may be long and filled with woe. But you must escape the gay man's ass, or your tale can't be told.
Lemmiwinks, Lemmiwinks, Lemmiwinks, Lemmiwinks!
Lemmiwink's journey is distant, far and fast! To find his way out of a gay man's ass! The road ahead is filled with danger and fright! But push onward Lemmiwinks with all of your might!
FROG KING: Lemmiwinks, you are coming to the enterance off the small intestine! There you must seek out The Sparrow Prince!
SONG: The Sparrow Prince lies somewhere way up ahead! Don't look back lemmiwinks, or you will soon be dead! Lemmiwinks, Lemmiwinks, the time is growing late. Slow down now, and seal your fate.
*Sparrow Prince Appears*
SPARROW PRINCE: I am The Sparrow Prince! Long has my spirit been trapped within this place! Before you lies the maze of the small intestine. One path leads to the stomach, the other to certain doom. Take with you this helmet and torch. Let them be your guide! *Gives Lemmiwinks a helmet with a torch*
SONG: Take the magic helmet-torch to help you light the way, there's still alot of ground to cross inside the man so gay! Ahead of you lies adventure, and your stregnth still lies within! Freedom from the ass of doom is the treasure you will win!
DEEP SONG: Lemmiwinks came to the stomach now. 'neath the dance of the lungs and heart.
*Catata Fish appears*
CATATA FISH: You have chosen your path wisely Lemmiwinks! I am the Catata Fish!
DEEP SONG: Catata fish of the stomach's cove!
CATATA FISH: If you answer this riddle, the esophogus will let you pass.
DEEP SONG: Catata fish's riddle will soon be told!
Later...
FROG KING: Hang on Lemmiwinks! You solved the Catata Fish's riddle, your trials are nearly through!
MR. SLAVE: *coughs out lemmiwinks*
SONG: Lemmiwinks has made it out, his tale is nearly through!
CATATA FISH: Great job, lemmiwinks!
SPARROW PRINCE: Thanks to you we are all free!
FROG KING: But your adventures are just beginning! *Takes off Lemmiwinks' helmet* You are no ordinary gerbil Lemmiwinks, you are the Gerbil King! *Puts crown on Lemmiwinks' head*
ALL ANIMAL GHOSTS: All hail the gerbil king!
SONG: Now that you're the Gerbil king has more adventures to go on! Fly away to faraway lands and to the setting sun! So many enemies and battles yet to fight! For Lemmiwinks the Gerbil King's tale is told throughout the night!
Le-Le-Lemmiwinks Lemmiwinks Lemmi-Lemmiwinks Lemmiwinks, Lemm-Le-Lemmiwinks Gerbil King!
I thought he just had a wide stance.
It is impossible to visit a public restroom in Minnesota without seeing, "Larry Craig was here" written on the wall.
... and you've lost what you made with 12 years of college.
Fat, Drunk, and Stupid is no way to go through life, Son.
Sincerely,
Dean Vernon Wormer
Faber College
I'm proud that slashdotters have avoided the obvious Bea Arthur joke.
It is election season, yet no McCain jokes thus far. He even got his start in politics with his wive's beer money.
Now I'll have to wait even longer to welcome our new demonic overlords who were supposed to come out of the stargate that the LHC will create.
Or, as some people have just shown in this post's immediate parent, plug in the my-boob-tube's-better-than-yours tube and far more productively spend your time lecturing others on online forums about how much better you are than them because you don't watch one specific form of digital entertainment.
I get paid to lecture others on online forums about how much better I am than others, just don't tell my employer.
Haven't you seen the news? We need all the bucks we can get!
It's actually quite the opposite. We've printed too many.
Taco's starting the drinking early today.
Or has yet to stop from last night. :)
Saturn was more faithful than Zeus in the mythology, it makes sense that it would have had its ring for a while.
To be fair, it is easy to be faithful when you have 1000's of wives.
Composite government funds own 82% of Microsoft according to this website.
This file shows that the New York retirement investment fund had over $1,000,000,000 in MS stock in 2006.
Add up every other state, county and city that owns Microsoft stock and it could really pile up.
Could it be that our own Government over the last several decades has been promoting to those fortune 500 companies, of which Government owns most through Bond - Loan investment / stock ownership [EXAMPLES: 82% stock ownership of Microsoft Corporation, Disney 61%, AOL - Time Warner 58%, EXXON 72%] to manufacture abroad so that Government would realize greater returns on their investments at the Peoples of the USA's expense in jobs and wealth retention.
-cafr1.com
Joe Lieberman and his staff have been actively censoring youtube under the guise of Senate Bill 1959: Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 since May. The bill hasn't passed the Senate yet, but it hasn't stopped Lieberman from pressuring google to delete any video and accounts he wants.
This video describes what is going on pretty well.
This veteran gives Lieberman a piece of his mind on the issue.
MIT has been trying to track down what videos are being taken down and why.
http://youtomb.mit.edu/
A printing press and/or an entry into a spreadsheet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YAL-1
Oh, behave!
Honestly!
Nothing says 'rob me blind' than 'trust us'.
Everyone trusts them that it is the law that you must file your tax return. Wouldn't that violate the 5th amendment?
...nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself...
You can be criminally charged for not filing your taxes and for filing your taxes incorrectly.
However, I must stress that you should pay your taxes because the IRS probably has more guns, lawyers and judges than you do!
100% of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the Federal Debt ... all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services taxpayers expect from government.
-Grace Commission report submitted to President Ronald Reagan - January 15, 1984
I'm sure I'll now be called crazy for simply reading a public document released by our own government.
Funny, I'm sick of third-party supporters telling me that the democrats are the republicans are "the same," which is an utter lie
Not every democrat and republican are the same, however the leadership of both parties are almost always controlled by the same interests. That's why the "Republican Revolution" in the 90's did nothing and why the Democratic Congress has done nothing thus far.
Here is a good article explaining Obama's money cartel.
These seven Wall Street firms are (in order of money given): Goldman Sachs, UBS AG, Lehman Brothers, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley and Credit Suisse.
I won't bother looking up McCain's top donors because it'll be close to the same. Remember that McCain was also one of the Keating 5 (same type of scandal we see unfolding now except with a lot more money).
Neither are against pre-emptive war or leave anything off the table when dealing with Iran (including a nuclear first strike). Just listen to Obama's speech to AIPAC, which he gave the day after Hillary conceded defeat in the primaries.
They both want to "get out" of Iraq, which means keeping 50k+ troops in the permanent bases and the biggest embassy in the world. They both will add troops into Afghanistan.
Both support the NATO puppet Saakashvili (the guy who eats ties on TV and attacked S. Ossetia). Why is there a need to surround Russia with NATO and be belligerant towards them? Maybe you should read Obama's mentor and one time advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski's book The Grand Chessboard to find out.
I'm sick and tired of hearing people say that McCain is running for Bush's 3rd term (not because it isn't true), but because no one talks about Biden running for Dick Cheney's 3rd term.
Ex-Post Facto applies to Article 1 Section 9, which puts limits on what Congress can do.
No bill of attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed
Here is part of the wikipedia entry you forgot to read
Conversely, a form of ex post facto law commonly known as an amnesty law may decriminalize certain acts or alleviate possible punishments retroactively.
If we had a decent judicial system (which we don't) the FISA bill would be struck down pretty quickly.
This is the exact kind of thing the framers of the Constitution had in mind when writing it.
That's exactly what elections used to be like. You'd come in with a piece of paper, write down your candidate, put it in a box in the middle of the room and leave.
Now we have the 2 party system where the 2 parties do everything in their power to block 3rd party candidates from getting onto the ballot and in debates. That's how we came to get pre-printed ballots and the need for signatures and/or money to be on it (depending on the state).
Obama actually "won" his first race in 1996 by getting enough signatures scrubbed off of his opponents ballot initiative.