I used to keep inkjet-on-normal-paper printed pictures of my ex-girlfriends faces in my wallet and drop one in the urinal while at a bar or club. It was always fun to hit the restroom right before leaving and see how distorted the images got. Even funnier when the current girlfriend sees them and says "what do you carry these for?" as I am explaining, a buddy usually pipes in "I thought that looked like so-and-so in the urinal on the right"
As a targeted attack against a commercial venture any support team worth their salt will do patching as part of routine maintenance - don't we guys'n'gals? As an attack against mom and pop PCs there are so many hardware variants that any one piece of malware will have a very limited target.
To me this looks like talking up a non existent problem - but I'm open to persuasion otherwise.
If the trojan carried the payload onboard, sure, the target audience would be small. However, if the trojan read the PC info, and the downloaded bad firmwares from an external site or database of them, and then bricked your broadband device, your router, your dvd drives, your soundcard, your video card, your raid array, then your MB, we could say you got phukked.
As the GP said, "virtualisation is not the answer to everything".
That's true. but nobody has made a good case for why it isn't an acceptable answer for THIS.
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Maybe I (or one of the above posters) missed something, but I thought the point of this submission was to get advice on a mobile device. As I understand it, its a little difficult to drop the VM in your pocket and run off for coffee with friends (or in most/.ers cases, co-workers).
Awwww, did I insult your precious "Lost" or did someone simply piss in your frosted flakes this morning? It's not an accurate reflection of my ego, it's an observation I made and continuously re-evaluate, secretly hoping that the world will spontaneously get smarter or the general public will suddenly die off but fail to take us with them.
Damn, I guess you are still here, maybe we'll have better luck tomorrow.
Ok, so we set a cancel/allow feature for every app. that may work for skilled or intelligent users, and most slashdotters would be OK.
The REST of the users out there are not as program/os/security savvy and would tell their PC to allow the app so they can watch that adult video or so they can have that pretty screensaver. They become so trained to just click allow that it defeats the purpose. As a sysadmin and a former helpdesker, I can tell you that the majority of computer users are a bunch of crack-tards who barely understand the mechanics of their machines. They would have no clue if a program asking for access is legit or not.
We as a community CANNOT use ourselves as a standard to base security(or perceived common sense) against. really, just look at society as a whole and ask yourself, do you consider yourself part of the norm, or are they just a bunch of petty, mindless sheep. Look at what they consider entertainment as a clue. Lost and American Gladiator- one gives them excitement and watercooler talk and the other allows them to imagine themselves doing better on those challenges so they feel good about themselves. Fabricated dreams. What would you say the average slashdotter IQ is and what is the world average?
Your statement sounds like a lack of pride in your country and people. The administrators of this program would do well to foster that pride and perhaps make a contributory stipulation where those who benefit from the schooling have to make a contribution to their country's wellbeing.
I have never met anyone who has dumped a scooter. A few people who have been hit by a car, one who was hit by a dog, but never anyone who dumped the scooter on their own.
(shameless plug) While you are at it, check out his normal comic strip, set aside a few day to go back to the beginning and read them all. http://www.somethingpositive.net/
I perceive this bill as some lawmaker going " China et. all is censoring the Internet, OH SHIT, what a missed opportunity, that right is OURS, let's secure legal rights to do so for our parent corporations, and lay the groundwork to get rich off it. We can say free energy is a national threat, ban it!! Dissident (anti-american-goverment) views are a national threat, ban it!!! They are slamming the Christers, its a national threat, BAN IT!!11111!!!
You get the picture.
Perhaps I am merely a pessimist, but as Dilbert says, an optimist is simply a pessimist with no experience.
"herd" is an action, like herding cattle, but small crazy convulsing cattle, with sharp points on 5 of 6 ends. The term "trying to herd spastic epileptic cats" was used to conjure a specific mental image. That all of those organizations are not being actively organized with a REAL attack plan to counter the lobbying, FUDing and warmongering that the AAs do simply proves my point.
We would need a few good project managers, sympathetic politicians (or professional political theorists), and the heads of the organizations you mentioned to sit down and form a coherant plan with well defined roles and actions. (any volunteers?)
Alternatively, we can involve the 2400(or similarly styled) groups to make the AAs their main focus for a while, digging up and publishing information on them for others to use in nefarious ways. I, for one, would be highly amused to see the officers of the AAs consituents all end up on a state run sexual predators list. If that fails, well, there is always violence. As a general rule, people seem to understand your displeasure with them when you destroy all they own.....
So, since they seem to have a plan for pushing their agenda, we should start an anti-MafiAA group, form counter strategies to push our anti-AA agendas like letter campaigns to senators, lawyers and universities. Or we could just fight dirty and hijack their sites, turn their servers into FTP shares of the most popular songs, destroy the officer's credit, burn their houses, rape, pillage.... Oh sorry, getting a little carried away. The above would never happen. Organizing nerds is like trying to herd spastic epileptic cats. Just look at the variety of open source projects and the speed at which things get done there.
I hear you. I started out as a telemarketer- inbound, working at a huge call center in Omaha. After many customer service jobs and a few years at an automobile insurance claims handling call center, I wound up with a help desk job. Great experience, it really fleshes out your troubleshooting skills. I tend to work a job for a while to learn the ropes, then move up or over. I jumped between desktop support and help desk positions and contracts for a little while, and 6 months ago I got a Sys Admin job for a local branch of a large company. I love it. I'm not on the phones, I have control over what priorities are set on problems, my own office, the boss is not onsite and I only talk to her once a week, I am a corporate employee and have no one to answer to at the branch office. It's great. I think that working the help desk got me here. I don't intend to stay here more than a few years, again, moving up or over, but I really appreciate the time I spent working the help desk. So I'd have to say its a launchpad, just not usually within the same company.
I assume you mean me. No, I had to look him up on Wikipedia. It just makes sense. The Devil would be too busy to collect on his own, so why not outsource. The names, places and rules of conduct were purely based on dim recollections of AD&D Planes rules a good dose of humor and some magical common sense.
It's funny you said that. When I read the headline, I imagined a giant trebuchet flinging the satellites into their respective positions like a bucket of rocks. Now mine isn't as Non-PC as yours, but its the same concept.
Actually, its not the Devil himself, he is more of a salesman. You are looking for Infernos Perpetual Collections from the 7th plane of Hell. It is run by an Arch-Demon who (for obvious reasons) cannot be named. These guys are viewed as being soft, since the down payment is a little blood, but they are willing to stop collecting if you give them a good fight or an arm and a leg, preferably yours.
I like that definition, I'd rather be called a Fundamentalist than a fanatic, like the Church of Mac zealots (or Macies/Apple-ists as I prefer to call them)
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In my part of the forest, we say:
"Dude, you got Delled!"
I used to keep inkjet-on-normal-paper printed pictures of my ex-girlfriends faces in my wallet and drop one in the urinal while at a bar or club. It was always fun to hit the restroom right before leaving and see how distorted the images got. Even funnier when the current girlfriend sees them and says "what do you carry these for?" as I am explaining, a buddy usually pipes in "I thought that looked like so-and-so in the urinal on the right"
As a targeted attack against a commercial venture any support team worth their salt will do patching as part of routine maintenance - don't we guys'n'gals? As an attack against mom and pop PCs there are so many hardware variants that any one piece of malware will have a very limited target.
To me this looks like talking up a non existent problem - but I'm open to persuasion otherwise.
If the trojan carried the payload onboard, sure, the target audience would be small. However, if the trojan read the PC info, and the downloaded bad firmwares from an external site or database of them, and then bricked your broadband device, your router, your dvd drives, your soundcard, your video card, your raid array, then your MB, we could say you got phukked.
I assume that there's an IT professional somewhere that looks over these released files prior to their release?
Well, it was an IT guy, but no-one calls him a professional.
Not a definition of what they classed as malware, but 3 pages of Trojans would seem to indicate that they found something, no?
Sounds like someone got royally F**KED.
As the GP said, "virtualisation is not the answer to everything".
/.ers cases, co-workers).
That's true. but nobody has made a good case for why it isn't an acceptable answer for THIS.
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Maybe I (or one of the above posters) missed something, but I thought the point of this submission was to get advice on a mobile device. As I understand it, its a little difficult to drop the VM in your pocket and run off for coffee with friends (or in most
Awwww, did I insult your precious "Lost" or did someone simply piss in your frosted flakes this morning?
It's not an accurate reflection of my ego, it's an observation I made and continuously re-evaluate, secretly hoping that the world will spontaneously get smarter or the general public will suddenly die off but fail to take us with them.
Damn, I guess you are still here, maybe we'll have better luck tomorrow.
Ok, so we set a cancel/allow feature for every app. that may work for skilled or intelligent users, and most slashdotters would be OK.
The REST of the users out there are not as program/os/security savvy and would tell their PC to allow the app so they can watch that adult video or so they can have that pretty screensaver. They become so trained to just click allow that it defeats the purpose. As a sysadmin and a former helpdesker, I can tell you that the majority of computer users are a bunch of crack-tards who barely understand the mechanics of their machines. They would have no clue if a program asking for access is legit or not.
We as a community CANNOT use ourselves as a standard to base security(or perceived common sense) against. really, just look at society as a whole and ask yourself, do you consider yourself part of the norm, or are they just a bunch of petty, mindless sheep. Look at what they consider entertainment as a clue. Lost and American Gladiator- one gives them excitement and watercooler talk and the other allows them to imagine themselves doing better on those challenges so they feel good about themselves. Fabricated dreams.
What would you say the average slashdotter IQ is and what is the world average?
I understand the sado and the necro bit, but why are you dragging bestiality into it?
Would not the correct term be "Equine Necrosadism"?
At no point in beating a dead horse should your zipper drop.
sicko.
Your statement sounds like a lack of pride in your country and people.
The administrators of this program would do well to foster that pride and perhaps make a contributory stipulation where those who benefit from the schooling have to make a contribution to their country's wellbeing.
just my $.02
I have never met anyone who has dumped a scooter.
A few people who have been hit by a car, one who was hit by a dog, but never anyone who dumped the scooter on their own.
THAT takes talent.
I seem to recall different rootkits disabling each other, around the time that mytob was released (may have been related to mytob)
Yelling out "I Rule!!" after news is released may not be the best strategy for anonimity.
Just ask Randy Millholland : http://www.superstupor.com/sust04282008.shtml
(shameless plug)
While you are at it, check out his normal comic strip, set aside a few day to go back to the beginning and read them all.
http://www.somethingpositive.net/
"So, does Google pay *YOU* when someone clicks on your link?"
Only in Soviet Amerika!!
I perceive this bill as some lawmaker going " China et. all is censoring the Internet, OH SHIT, what a missed opportunity, that right is OURS, let's secure legal rights to do so for our parent corporations, and lay the groundwork to get rich off it. We can say free energy is a national threat, ban it!! Dissident (anti-american-goverment) views are a national threat, ban it!!! They are slamming the Christers, its a national threat, BAN IT!!11111!!!
You get the picture.
Perhaps I am merely a pessimist, but as Dilbert says, an optimist is simply a pessimist with no experience.
"herd" is an action, like herding cattle, but small crazy convulsing cattle, with sharp points on 5 of 6 ends.
The term "trying to herd spastic epileptic cats" was used to conjure a specific mental image. That all of those organizations are not being actively organized with a REAL attack plan to counter the lobbying, FUDing and warmongering that the AAs do simply proves my point.
We would need a few good project managers, sympathetic politicians (or professional political theorists), and the heads of the organizations you mentioned to sit down and form a coherant plan with well defined roles and actions. (any volunteers?)
Alternatively, we can involve the 2400(or similarly styled) groups to make the AAs their main focus for a while, digging up and publishing information on them for others to use in nefarious ways. I, for one, would be highly amused to see the officers of the AAs consituents all end up on a state run sexual predators list. If that fails, well, there is always violence. As a general rule, people seem to understand your displeasure with them when you destroy all they own.....
So, since they seem to have a plan for pushing their agenda, we should start an anti-MafiAA group, form counter strategies to push our anti-AA agendas like letter campaigns to senators, lawyers and universities. Or we could just fight dirty and hijack their sites, turn their servers into FTP shares of the most popular songs, destroy the officer's credit, burn their houses, rape, pillage.... Oh sorry, getting a little carried away. The above would never happen. Organizing nerds is like trying to herd spastic epileptic cats. Just look at the variety of open source projects and the speed at which things get done there.
Sorry dude, it looks like you missed the Robo-Rochambeau party.
I hear you. I started out as a telemarketer- inbound, working at a huge call center in Omaha. After many customer service jobs and a few years at an automobile insurance claims handling call center, I wound up with a help desk job. Great experience, it really fleshes out your troubleshooting skills. I tend to work a job for a while to learn the ropes, then move up or over. I jumped between desktop support and help desk positions and contracts for a little while, and 6 months ago I got a Sys Admin job for a local branch of a large company. I love it. I'm not on the phones, I have control over what priorities are set on problems, my own office, the boss is not onsite and I only talk to her once a week, I am a corporate employee and have no one to answer to at the branch office. It's great. I think that working the help desk got me here. I don't intend to stay here more than a few years, again, moving up or over, but I really appreciate the time I spent working the help desk. So I'd have to say its a launchpad, just not usually within the same company.
I assume you mean me. No, I had to look him up on Wikipedia. It just makes sense. The Devil would be too busy to collect on his own, so why not outsource. The names, places and rules of conduct were purely based on dim recollections of AD&D Planes rules a good dose of humor and some magical common sense.
It's funny you said that. When I read the headline, I imagined a giant trebuchet flinging the satellites into their respective positions like a bucket of rocks. Now mine isn't as Non-PC as yours, but its the same concept.
Actually, its not the Devil himself, he is more of a salesman. You are looking for Infernos Perpetual Collections from the 7th plane of Hell. It is run by an Arch-Demon who (for obvious reasons) cannot be named. These guys are viewed as being soft, since the down payment is a little blood, but they are willing to stop collecting if you give them a good fight or an arm and a leg, preferably yours.
Well, from a layman's perspective, it sounds like a replacement for Metamucil.
I like that definition, I'd rather be called a Fundamentalist than a fanatic, like the Church of Mac zealots (or Macies/Apple-ists as I prefer to call them)
I'd rather that than release the sordid details of a patient's copraphagia.
especially if it involved video evidence.