So long as you get the source code with the binaries, or they give it to you upon request, they can set it up to expire. I could write a "30 day expiration" demo version of EMACS if I wanted to. Of course, you could just hack the source code to remove that restriction and distribute it. Or distribute the ungimped one I frustrate you into buying.
That IBM, IBM of all companies, would be the company to bankroll the GPLs ultimate showdown.
SCO is fucked now. I knew IBM was planning some massive smackdown, thank god their legal team knows how to do this. Shut up, take notes, dot the i's and cross the t's before opening up. This is the 800 ton gorilla backed up by 800 pound gorillas facing off against a mouse. Darl McBride must have shit his pants.
SCO is digging their own grave. What drugs are they on? did they raid the stashes of every raver in California? Even that isn't enough drugs...
The SCO stockholders will probably have grounds for a lawsuit when the company collapses. SCO is gone. They are shooting themselves in the head. Corporate suicide at its finest. Even if their breach of contract suit against IBM has firm ground, the fud machine they are operating will kill them.
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We need it. Why do you think China hasn't invaded Taiwan yet? Or North Korea invaded South Korea? Because the US has such an overwhelming advantage militarily that it would be suicide for them to do so. We need to maintain a clear overwhelming advantage to make damn sure those wars don't happen. If we allow our rapid advance in state of the art military hardware, someone will jump ahead and we may find ourselves in a war that will take a lot more to win. Our enemies will be much more likely to attack us if they see weakness.
In combat operations, taking into account in flight reboots and incomplete code, will the F-22 be more effective than the F-15 it is set to replace? If so, big deal it has some problems, more effective is still more effective.
Assuming each side has an equally strong case under the law, I put my money on IBM.
They have a legal department that clearly is able to work with the PR department in keeping their mouths shut, and releasing only well timed and well thought out responses to SCO's fud. In other words, IBM acts more professional than MS. That can add an immense amount of credibility.
IBM also brings in more revenue and has more assets than Microsoft. I've looked over the financial statements(Disclaimer- Not an accountant, but I did take accounting in college) and IBM does look to be in the stronger position financially. Especially from a long term view. It would be a rough fight to be sure, but IBM can hold on and can afford to throw more on the line than MS can. Simply put, while Microsoft may be able to throw more money at it now, IBM can keep throwing money at the problem longer than MS can. IBM also has quite a bit more in assets they can sacrifice to raise money if the matter is that important to them. If they tighten the purse strings a bit, it wouldn't surprise me if IBM could outspend MS on lawyers even during the initial phase, not just the long term.
So, from the way they are handling themselves against SCO, and a look at their financial positions, I'd have to say IBM would crush Microsoft in the end. Microsoft would have to have an absolutely clear position legally, so clear that IBM would have been very hesitant to do the offending thing in the first place.
I agree with your points, however, you have some flaws in your thinking about how they apply.
SCO code may have gotten into the kernel w/o their authorization/knowledge. However, they kept shipping the kernel for at least a month after they announced the lawsuit. It is reasonable to believe they knew about the code at least a couple weeks prior while they were formulating their strategy to deal with it. So we are looking at them knowingly releasing a GPL product with their code in it.
For them to have a case that their code was improperly put under the GPL, they would have to immediately cease distribution of the offending product themselves once they confirmed internally that their code was in there.
Honestly, I think SCO realizes that they have absolutely no intellectual property angle to go on. They are going on about that to create fud while they go on with their breach of contract lawsuit.
The real problem is, it is entirely possible that IBM did breach their contract with SCO(or SCOs legal predecessors). So, it is quite possible SCO will score a legitimate courtroom victory on those counts. If they do, they will spin that as "linux is legally proven to be an IP theft"... Whether it is or not, they will have a massive fud hammer +5 of OSS slaying. AIX dies. Linux dies. BSD *should* be able to survive via the result of UNIX War I. Other OSS products will rapidly be beaten down. SCO moves into the breach and becomes a huge UNIX player, and may even be able to spin things to openly steal and use OSS IP without a succesful retaliation.
Honestly, I hope IBM opts for a jury trial. And then moves for a dismissal based on jury tainting due to SCOs pre trial antics. That would shatter SCO- if they can't run a lawsuit right, and investors realize that SCO had basically been lying all along... Dead SCO. Would kill it more surely than IBM winning at trial. And open up the door to a massive countersuit by IBM for unfair competition, maybe slander/libel, etc... SCO is dead if IBM pulls the jury tainting card and wins that. Its our best hope I think.
BSD code is in there, in full compliance with the license.
Microsoft actaully does use GPL code as well in some of their unix interopability software. Again, believe it or not, they actually comply with the license.
With the pressure on Microsoft, I don't think they would risk getting caught stealing code. If such an accusation came up and had even the slightest whiff of legitimacy, I'd expect to see several MS developers fired immediately and MS offering a large settlement deal.
Don't flame him for neglect, this is a draft. Its bound to have many small and some large omissions by the nature of the document. Drafts are like a JPEG with 99% compression- looks crappy but gives a solid idea of what it is supposed to be.
Fidget. People who fidget a lot are in measureably better shape than those who don't(and are otherwise similar exercise/diet wise). Just make sure not to do this at a meeting with the boss to discuss a raise/promotion:).
Try lifting your desk while sitting at it. You don't actually need to lift it off the ground, just put a lot of force into it as if you meant to, do many repetitions of that.
Volunteer for any odd jobs around the office that involve physical labor.
If you live close enough, walk or ride a bike to work whenever weather permits. If you have enough time during your lunch break, take a walk or bike ride somewhere.
Get up and stretch regularly.
Situps/pushups and the like can help, don't worry about what other people think. When you are in shape to pull that vital bit of overtime that gets a product out in time, and they arent, guess who is employee of the month?
XP home OEM installs normally use NTFS, and as far as I am aware(correct me if I am wrong please!) only Mandrake 9.1 can resize NTFS at the moment. Of course, Mandrake GPL'ing all of their own code means that feature will be in all of the distros rather soon, but at the moment, it does require third party windows apps to do it, or restricts you to a single distro(which, lucky me, IS my favorite)
I dual booted my XP home box from HP. Didn't need the windows CD. Just resize the partition with PM, install Linux, and there you go. As long as you can access the DVD drive, you are fine.
I suspect IBM is keeping quiet now so that SCO cannot pin them for pre trial antics. If it goes to a jury trial, which IBM can demand per the US constitution as the case is about more than 20 dollars, IBM in theory could move for dismissal based on jury tainting that SCO has been doing. Not sure if they would do that, but with SCOs big mouth its a possibility that I'm sure IBM has considered.
I really do not think that IBM will make any comments other than the occasional press release to comfort their customers, and whatever pretrial documents they must file with the court, regarding this case until it goes to trial. The less SCO knows about IBMs case, the better for IBM.
When I was in the Marines we took it out to a 55 gallon drum outside the scif, poured in some diesel, burned it, then poured water in and stirred the remnants.
The basic technologies behind security certainly shouldn't be secure. But some obscurity, like blocking people from figuring out what sort of server software you are running(or fooling them into thinking its something else) is certainly a good idea.
If someone is trying to crack a linux box running Apache they think is a windows box running IIS, they won't get very far. At the least, they will waste time figuring out what you are really running, thats time you can detect the intrusion in and gather information for any relevant response before he actually gets through. In a setup like this, using an open platform as a base but obscuring the deployment details, obscurity helps immensely.
Sometimes I scroll through a huge page... or a site with frames, or a situation that otherwise makes it incredibly difficult to bookmark the information I need.
I'd like to be able to bookmark a framed site with the exact set of frames I want to see.
Or bookmark a page, but automatically jump three screens down when I select that bookmark.
Perhaps for dynamic pages like slashdots comments, have the option to bookmark-to-cache so I can reliably bring up a specific comment even after it has been modded to oblivion or spilled over to another page.
Session bookmarking like has been mentioned would be awesome too. Sometimes I know vaguely remember when I was at a site or saw something on the web, but don't remember exactly when/where. The history file is helpful, but painful to look through sometimes.
I'd like to see session bookmarks done like this:
Option 1: You click on a "begin session bookmark". Then when you are done, click "end session bookmark". This would automatically record the entire session, in the order and heierarchy you surfed in...
Option 2: You click "begin manual session bookmark". Then you click "Send to session file" for each page you want.
Option 3: You click "Bookmark past" and tell it how far back in time to send your surfing to a session bookmark.
Option 4: Click "Bookmark Future" and tell it how long or how many clicks or whatever into the future to automatically throw things into the session bookmark.
Also, session bookmarks would be able to be given a name, date, or both. And either organized in pure chronological or heierarchical order of your surfing, or alphabetic... whatever.
I'd also add the ability to mix these types. so you could bookmark 3 screens down in a framed page, and cache the current page so you dont' have to worry about it dissapearing tommorow, and send it to a bookmark file for your current browsing session.
Gee... I should crack down on learning programming... maybe implement some of these ideas.
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So long as you get the source code with the binaries, or they give it to you upon request, they can set it up to expire. I could write a "30 day expiration" demo version of EMACS if I wanted to. Of course, you could just hack the source code to remove that restriction and distribute it. Or distribute the ungimped one I frustrate you into buying.
That IBM, IBM of all companies, would be the company to bankroll the GPLs ultimate showdown.
SCO is fucked now. I knew IBM was planning some massive smackdown, thank god their legal team knows how to do this. Shut up, take notes, dot the i's and cross the t's before opening up. This is the 800 ton gorilla backed up by 800 pound gorillas facing off against a mouse. Darl McBride must have shit his pants.
SCO doggie
IBM has bigger bite
SCO eaten
That costs more than my laptop.
SCO is digging their own grave. What drugs are they on? did they raid the stashes of every raver in California? Even that isn't enough drugs...
The SCO stockholders will probably have grounds for a lawsuit when the company collapses. SCO is gone. They are shooting themselves in the head. Corporate suicide at its finest. Even if their breach of contract suit against IBM has firm ground, the fud machine they are operating will kill them.
We need it. Why do you think China hasn't invaded Taiwan yet? Or North Korea invaded South Korea? Because the US has such an overwhelming advantage militarily that it would be suicide for them to do so. We need to maintain a clear overwhelming advantage to make damn sure those wars don't happen. If we allow our rapid advance in state of the art military hardware, someone will jump ahead and we may find ourselves in a war that will take a lot more to win. Our enemies will be much more likely to attack us if they see weakness.
In combat operations, taking into account in flight reboots and incomplete code, will the F-22 be more effective than the F-15 it is set to replace? If so, big deal it has some problems, more effective is still more effective.
I read the title as "Slashdot *wet* t-shirt contest"
SCO would have a point with this- IF they immediately ceased distribution of Linux upon discovering they let their code slip in.
Assuming each side has an equally strong case under the law, I put my money on IBM.
They have a legal department that clearly is able to work with the PR department in keeping their mouths shut, and releasing only well timed and well thought out responses to SCO's fud. In other words, IBM acts more professional than MS. That can add an immense amount of credibility.
IBM also brings in more revenue and has more assets than Microsoft. I've looked over the financial statements(Disclaimer- Not an accountant, but I did take accounting in college) and IBM does look to be in the stronger position financially. Especially from a long term view. It would be a rough fight to be sure, but IBM can hold on and can afford to throw more on the line than MS can. Simply put, while Microsoft may be able to throw more money at it now, IBM can keep throwing money at the problem longer than MS can. IBM also has quite a bit more in assets they can sacrifice to raise money if the matter is that important to them. If they tighten the purse strings a bit, it wouldn't surprise me if IBM could outspend MS on lawyers even during the initial phase, not just the long term.
So, from the way they are handling themselves against SCO, and a look at their financial positions, I'd have to say IBM would crush Microsoft in the end. Microsoft would have to have an absolutely clear position legally, so clear that IBM would have been very hesitant to do the offending thing in the first place.
Disclaimer: IANALBIPOOSD
I agree with your points, however, you have some flaws in your thinking about how they apply.
SCO code may have gotten into the kernel w/o their authorization/knowledge. However, they kept shipping the kernel for at least a month after they announced the lawsuit. It is reasonable to believe they knew about the code at least a couple weeks prior while they were formulating their strategy to deal with it. So we are looking at them knowingly releasing a GPL product with their code in it.
For them to have a case that their code was improperly put under the GPL, they would have to immediately cease distribution of the offending product themselves once they confirmed internally that their code was in there.
Honestly, I think SCO realizes that they have absolutely no intellectual property angle to go on. They are going on about that to create fud while they go on with their breach of contract lawsuit.
The real problem is, it is entirely possible that IBM did breach their contract with SCO(or SCOs legal predecessors). So, it is quite possible SCO will score a legitimate courtroom victory on those counts. If they do, they will spin that as "linux is legally proven to be an IP theft"... Whether it is or not, they will have a massive fud hammer +5 of OSS slaying. AIX dies. Linux dies. BSD *should* be able to survive via the result of UNIX War I. Other OSS products will rapidly be beaten down. SCO moves into the breach and becomes a huge UNIX player, and may even be able to spin things to openly steal and use OSS IP without a succesful retaliation.
Honestly, I hope IBM opts for a jury trial. And then moves for a dismissal based on jury tainting due to SCOs pre trial antics. That would shatter SCO- if they can't run a lawsuit right, and investors realize that SCO had basically been lying all along... Dead SCO. Would kill it more surely than IBM winning at trial. And open up the door to a massive countersuit by IBM for unfair competition, maybe slander/libel, etc... SCO is dead if IBM pulls the jury tainting card and wins that. Its our best hope I think.
BSD code is in there, in full compliance with the license.
Microsoft actaully does use GPL code as well in some of their unix interopability software. Again, believe it or not, they actually comply with the license.
With the pressure on Microsoft, I don't think they would risk getting caught stealing code. If such an accusation came up and had even the slightest whiff of legitimacy, I'd expect to see several MS developers fired immediately and MS offering a large settlement deal.
Agreed, that should be in there.
Don't flame him for neglect, this is a draft. Its bound to have many small and some large omissions by the nature of the document. Drafts are like a JPEG with 99% compression- looks crappy but gives a solid idea of what it is supposed to be.
Fidget. People who fidget a lot are in measureably better shape than those who don't(and are otherwise similar exercise/diet wise). Just make sure not to do this at a meeting with the boss to discuss a raise/promotion:).
Try lifting your desk while sitting at it. You don't actually need to lift it off the ground, just put a lot of force into it as if you meant to, do many repetitions of that.
Volunteer for any odd jobs around the office that involve physical labor.
If you live close enough, walk or ride a bike to work whenever weather permits. If you have enough time during your lunch break, take a walk or bike ride somewhere.
Get up and stretch regularly.
Situps/pushups and the like can help, don't worry about what other people think. When you are in shape to pull that vital bit of overtime that gets a product out in time, and they arent, guess who is employee of the month?
This stunt would fall into the "ethical but possibly illegal" category.
XP home OEM installs normally use NTFS, and as far as I am aware(correct me if I am wrong please!) only Mandrake 9.1 can resize NTFS at the moment. Of course, Mandrake GPL'ing all of their own code means that feature will be in all of the distros rather soon, but at the moment, it does require third party windows apps to do it, or restricts you to a single distro(which, lucky me, IS my favorite)
I dual booted my XP home box from HP. Didn't need the windows CD. Just resize the partition with PM, install Linux, and there you go. As long as you can access the DVD drive, you are fine.
It should point to the OSI position paper on the case.
Godwins law. You lose.
I suspect IBM is keeping quiet now so that SCO cannot pin them for pre trial antics. If it goes to a jury trial, which IBM can demand per the US constitution as the case is about more than 20 dollars, IBM in theory could move for dismissal based on jury tainting that SCO has been doing. Not sure if they would do that, but with SCOs big mouth its a possibility that I'm sure IBM has considered.
I really do not think that IBM will make any comments other than the occasional press release to comfort their customers, and whatever pretrial documents they must file with the court, regarding this case until it goes to trial. The less SCO knows about IBMs case, the better for IBM.
Different installations and units use different procedures.
What gets fun is the "bad guys are at the door" destruction policies. Basically, light the building aflame and hope for the best.
When I was in the Marines we took it out to a 55 gallon drum outside the scif, poured in some diesel, burned it, then poured water in and stirred the remnants.
Was a messy job disposing of the remnants.
Crumple the paper about a billion times and it will flush just like toilet paper.
The basic technologies behind security certainly shouldn't be secure
Should read:
"The basic technologies behind security certainly shouldn't be obscured"
The basic technologies behind security certainly shouldn't be secure. But some obscurity, like blocking people from figuring out what sort of server software you are running(or fooling them into thinking its something else) is certainly a good idea.
If someone is trying to crack a linux box running Apache they think is a windows box running IIS, they won't get very far. At the least, they will waste time figuring out what you are really running, thats time you can detect the intrusion in and gather information for any relevant response before he actually gets through. In a setup like this, using an open platform as a base but obscuring the deployment details, obscurity helps immensely.
Sometimes I scroll through a huge page... or a site with frames, or a situation that otherwise makes it incredibly difficult to bookmark the information I need.
I'd like to be able to bookmark a framed site with the exact set of frames I want to see.
Or bookmark a page, but automatically jump three screens down when I select that bookmark.
Perhaps for dynamic pages like slashdots comments, have the option to bookmark-to-cache so I can reliably bring up a specific comment even after it has been modded to oblivion or spilled over to another page.
Session bookmarking like has been mentioned would be awesome too. Sometimes I know vaguely remember when I was at a site or saw something on the web, but don't remember exactly when/where. The history file is helpful, but painful to look through sometimes.
I'd like to see session bookmarks done like this:
Option 1: You click on a "begin session bookmark". Then when you are done, click "end session bookmark". This would automatically record the entire session, in the order and heierarchy you surfed in...
Option 2: You click "begin manual session bookmark". Then you click "Send to session file" for each page you want.
Option 3: You click "Bookmark past" and tell it how far back in time to send your surfing to a session bookmark.
Option 4: Click "Bookmark Future" and tell it how long or how many clicks or whatever into the future to automatically throw things into the session bookmark.
Also, session bookmarks would be able to be given a name, date, or both. And either organized in pure chronological or heierarchical order of your surfing, or alphabetic... whatever.
I'd also add the ability to mix these types. so you could bookmark 3 screens down in a framed page, and cache the current page so you dont' have to worry about it dissapearing tommorow, and send it to a bookmark file for your current browsing session.
Gee... I should crack down on learning programming... maybe implement some of these ideas.