No offense, but I spent weeks answering this kind of message when we moved from sunsite to metalab. Personally, I'm tired of typing meatbal instead of metalab, which being dyslexic I've done more times that can be counted;->
But seriously, both names will work -- in fact sunsite.unc.edu still works, but don't tell sun -- for a very very long time. Metalab, as a name, only existed since 1997 -- not a decade altho it seems like a decade sometimes.
Absolutely, (I didn't pay you to post that message, did I?)! We do want to add discussions and we do want something like/. and/or advogato. We're just getting started on that portion of the project so suggestions are certainly welcome.
errr. guess i should modify my/. profile to say:
http://ibiblio.org/pjones/
what we aim for is quite different from UofA, a place i was glad to help become a sunsite several years back. our goal is a contributor-run library using what we have learned from the linux archives (since 1992), the LSMs, advogato, even slashdot and sourceforge and of course successful projects like apache.
second, the new library idea is that we hope to use tools and experience familiar to those of us in open source development in other areas. we've done shared metadata, for example, for years in the LSMs and in the software archive on metalab/ibiblio sunsite (you pick).
we last changed our name, from sunsite.unc.edu, because sunsite was owned by sun. when we went to enter into a collaboration with red hat center, they thought that a new name that showed something of a larger direction would be appropriate. i agree. i can't type it yet either, but then i typed meatbal for metalab for the past three years too
it's is our hope to create a library as noisy and democratic as slashdot itself. it will take us a while to combine, develop and implement the great ideas from the LSMs, slashdot, advogato, apache, sourceforge and the multitude of projects on sunsite/metalab/ibiblio. and we want your help.
not a catchy title, but here are a few things that i hope will clear a little air:
first the gift/collaboration is with the red hat center, a private foundation founded by marc ewing and bob young. not from red hat inc.
second, the new library idea is that we hope to use tools and experience familiar to those of us in open source development in other areas. we've done shared metadata, for example, for years in the LSMs and in the software archive on metalab/ibiblio/sunsite (you pick). This article in the Chronicle of High Education gets it pretty much right. i have an article forthcoming in CACM which tells more and can post to folks who are interested.
we last changed our name, from sunsite.unc.edu, because sunsite was owned by sun. when we went to enter into a collaboration with red hat center, they thought that a new name that showed something of a larger direction would be appropriate. i agree. i can't type it yet either, but then i typed meatbal for metalab for the past three years too
it's is our hope to create a library as noisy and democratic as slashdot itself. it will take us a while to combine, develop and implement the great ideas from the LSMs, slashdot, advogato, apache, sourceforge and the multitude of projects on sunsite/metalab/ibiblio. and we want your help.
actually metalab/ibiblio has been one of the major distribution sites for Project Gutenberg for quite some time. we've enjoyed working with michael hart and we always learn from him
the unasked question here is: will Eric Brewer's search engine be open sourced? we could really use a powerful search engine for large diverse collections of material.
pooling of very unlike data - that is mixing apple and oranges of communites in such a way that individual creators of smaller projects are mixed with sophistocated complex projects like Apache and the kernel
inconsistant data gathering - as pointed out in other messages, whilst claiming to represent everything a collection of over 4K projects is missing (LSM projects which we looked at)
gross analysis of data - that is not trying to understand what data means what as that licenses are mixed with authors
more is more fallacy. that is saying that "we counted a lot, so we learned a lot" smart and focused sampling is always better and tells you more
gotta read more to tell you more
on the other hand, the collection of the data -- if it can be arranged in some meaningful manner and then processed in a reasonable way that will yield thoughtful conclusions -- is no small task and rishab and his associates should be applauded for the hard work they did on that portion of the project. i, for one, would be glad to work with them to try to pull out some meaningful reports from their well-meaning but, i think, misfiring project.
Were the Pinkies or their PR firm familiar with Ron Jones' famous classroom experience in fascism as cronicled in his book "No Substitute for Madness," in the 1981 tv-movie "The Wave" or the novelization by Todd Strasser? Aren't they concerned that their program evokes memories of many of the aspects of that experience? Are they aware that "the Wave" is taught in many classrooms nationally and internationally?
I just called and asked for a t-shirt and asked how many people did I have to turn in for a HAT! They refered me to another toll free number for their PR department (800) 527-1428 where I got a recored message. Give'm a call, They're lonely and the guy who answered at (888) 960-9600 sounded depressed!
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At the request of the Red Hat mirror folks, we've set the directory for RedHat-6.2 as non-readable.
We mirror automagically so's we picked up their permissions and of course we left them the way RH had them until they asked us to do otherwise. When RH tells us to open'em back up, we will.
The ever-genial Chicago native agrees that the Byrds albums never sounded better than they do now, but if you assume the 57-year-old Pete Seeger idolizer is sitting around contemplating the past, guess again. This morning alone, McGuinn's already answered hundreds of e-mails generated by his Mcguinn.com Web site, and is busy setting up microphones so he can record the latest addition to his continuing "Folk Den" song series, then make the results available for no-cost downloading. At Seeger's request, he's cutting another trad gem, "Dink's Song," adding that a "Best of Folk Den" project will see its way to retail shelves soon. The first three volumes of the series are available only on MP3.com.
"They retail for $7.99, because there's no middleman, and I get 50%," explains McGuinn. "If they sell 1,000 CDs, I get $4,000. It's unheard of! You know how long it would take to get $4,000 in royalties from a [label]? Maybe the answer is never."
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http://www.unc.edu/cci/ explains the whole thing. incoming freshmen are required to buy laptops. unc negotiated a very good deal with ibm which includes on-campus replacement parts and loaners and other nice support goodies. scholarship money and student loans can be used to pay for the computers.
http://linuxexpo.org/explanation.html is a longish explanation of the linuxexpo situation written by Donnie Barnes who has plenty to say. Highly recommended read.
Valenti is famous also for saying: "When I die, bury me in Texas so I can remain politically active." An allusion to the notion that voting is so crooked there that the dead vote. He should know from his experiences with LBJ there.
But to better understand Valenti, look at the BetaMax suits, Sony vs. Universal. We only won the right to have record heads on our VCRs by a single vote in the Supreme Court!
Check out a very good history "Fast forward : Hollywood, the Japanese, and the onslaught of the VCR" by James Lardner from WW Norton in 1987. Valenti is a major character in that history and Bruce Leman, now of the Patent Office, is a minor one. The MPAA arguments and methods are very similar to those they are using this time out.
I actually submitted the article citing Brooks' Law with the apost. after the s as we do in English, but it was copyedited to the wrong site at/. The link which cites Brooks's Law is not correct English but is not a terrible mistake for a non-native speaker, such as the keeper of that site, to be making.
Slashdot Mirror
you are right! i meant the entire Linux distribution including the very early kernel in 1992
But seriously, both names will work -- in fact sunsite.unc.edu still works, but don't tell sun -- for a very very long time. Metalab, as a name, only existed since 1997 -- not a decade altho it seems like a decade sometimes.
Absolutely, (I didn't pay you to post that message, did I?)! We do want to add discussions and we do want something like /. and/or advogato. We're just getting started on that portion of the project so suggestions are certainly welcome.
/. profile to say:
errr. guess i should modify my
http://ibiblio.org/pjones/
as you can see on our collection page, we chose the dewey system over the LC one
i strongly support this effort ;->
- sunsite - 4 years of working with sun, but trying to maintain our academic and non-commercial identity
- metalab - 4 years of scrambling for support and getting nice but smaller gifts of support from a variety of commercial entities
- ibiblio - 5 year committment from a private foundation to extend the ideas and projects for the past 8 years
after that i am close to retirementwhat we aim for is quite different from UofA, a place i was glad to help become a sunsite several years back. our goal is a contributor-run library using what we have learned from the linux archives (since 1992), the LSMs, advogato, even slashdot and sourceforge and of course successful projects like apache.
this article in Chronicle of Higher Education mostly gets it right.
first the gift/collaboration is with the red hat center, a private foundation founded by marc ewing and bob young. not from red hat inc.
second, the new library idea is that we hope to use tools and experience familiar to those of us in open source development in other areas. we've done shared metadata, for example, for years in the LSMs and in the software archive on metalab/ibiblio sunsite (you pick).
This article in the Chronicle of High Education gets it pretty much right. i have an article forthcoming in CACM which tells more and can post to folks who are interested.
we last changed our name, from sunsite.unc.edu, because sunsite was owned by sun. when we went to enter into a collaboration with red hat center, they thought that a new name that showed something of a larger direction would be appropriate. i agree. i can't type it yet either, but then i typed meatbal for metalab for the past three years too
it's is our hope to create a library as noisy and democratic as slashdot itself. it will take us a while to combine, develop and implement the great ideas from the LSMs, slashdot, advogato, apache, sourceforge and the multitude of projects on sunsite/metalab/ibiblio. and we want your help.
peace love and sharing
i know that if there were not already a case going on that we might try to see what we could to to accept it -- rather than to reject it out of hand.
actually we're trying to buy micr0soft
first the gift/collaboration is with the red hat center, a private foundation founded by marc ewing and bob young. not from red hat inc.
second, the new library idea is that we hope to use tools and experience familiar to those of us in open source development in other areas. we've done shared metadata, for example, for years in the LSMs and in the software archive on metalab/ibiblio/sunsite (you pick). This article in the Chronicle of High Education gets it pretty much right. i have an article forthcoming in CACM which tells more and can post to folks who are interested.
we last changed our name, from sunsite.unc.edu, because sunsite was owned by sun. when we went to enter into a collaboration with red hat center, they thought that a new name that showed something of a larger direction would be appropriate. i agree. i can't type it yet either, but then i typed meatbal for metalab for the past three years too
it's is our hope to create a library as noisy and democratic as slashdot itself. it will take us a while to combine, develop and implement the great ideas from the LSMs, slashdot, advogato, apache, sourceforge and the multitude of projects on sunsite/metalab/ibiblio. and we want your help.
peace love and sharing
Paul
actually metalab/ibiblio has been one of the major distribution sites for Project Gutenberg for quite some time. we've enjoyed working with michael hart and we always learn from him
the unasked question here is: will Eric Brewer's search engine be open sourced? we could really use a powerful search engine for large diverse collections of material.
on the other hand, the collection of the data -- if it can be arranged in some meaningful manner and then processed in a reasonable way that will yield thoughtful conclusions -- is no small task and rishab and his associates should be applauded for the hard work they did on that portion of the project. i, for one, would be glad to work with them to try to pull out some meaningful reports from their well-meaning but, i think, misfiring project.
Paul Jones
Were the Pinkies or their PR firm familiar with Ron Jones' famous classroom experience in fascism as cronicled in his book "No Substitute for Madness," in the 1981 tv-movie "The Wave" or the novelization by Todd Strasser? Aren't they concerned that their program evokes memories of many of the aspects of that experience? Are they aware that "the Wave" is taught in many classrooms nationally and internationally?
I just called and asked for a t-shirt and asked how many people did I have to turn in for a HAT! They refered me to another toll free number for their PR department (800) 527-1428 where I got a recored message.
Give'm a call, They're lonely and the guy who answered at (888) 960-9600 sounded depressed!
We mirror automagically so's we picked up their permissions and of course we left them the way RH had them until they asked us to do otherwise.
When RH tells us to open'em back up, we will.
should be http://www.auschron.com/issues/dispatch/2000-03-17 /music_roundupb9.html
The ever-genial Chicago native agrees that the Byrds albums never sounded better than they do now, but if you assume the 57-year-old Pete Seeger idolizer is sitting around contemplating the past, guess again. This morning alone, McGuinn's already answered hundreds of e-mails generated by his Mcguinn.com Web site, and is busy setting up microphones so he can record the latest addition to his continuing "Folk Den" song series, then make the results available for no-cost downloading. At Seeger's request, he's cutting another trad gem, "Dink's Song," adding that a "Best of Folk Den" project will see its way to retail shelves soon. The first three volumes of the series are available only on MP3.com.
"They retail for $7.99, because there's no middleman, and I get 50%," explains McGuinn. "If they sell 1,000 CDs, I get $4,000. It's unheard of! You know how long it would take to get $4,000 in royalties from a [label]? Maybe the answer is never."
http://www.unc.edu/cci/ explains the whole thing. incoming freshmen are required to buy laptops. unc negotiated a very good deal with ibm which includes on-campus replacement parts and loaners and other nice support goodies. scholarship money and student loans can be used to pay for the computers.
http://linuxexpo.org/explanation.html shoulda been a hot link if i were paying enough attention to what i was doing.
http://linuxexpo.org/explanation.html is a longish explanation of the linuxexpo situation written by Donnie Barnes who has plenty to say.
Highly recommended read.
I *do* want a Beaver t-shirt, before they change their name
"When I die, bury me in Texas so I can remain politically active." An allusion to the notion that voting is so crooked there that the dead vote. He should know from his experiences with LBJ there.
But to better understand Valenti, look at the BetaMax suits, Sony vs. Universal. We only won the right to have record heads on our VCRs by a single vote in the Supreme Court!
Check out a very good history "Fast forward : Hollywood, the Japanese, and the onslaught of the VCR" by James Lardner from WW Norton in 1987. Valenti is a major character in that history and Bruce Leman, now of the Patent Office, is a minor one. The MPAA arguments and methods are very similar to those they are using this time out.
I actually submitted the article citing Brooks' Law with the apost. after the s as we do in English, but it was copyedited to the wrong site at /. The link which cites Brooks's Law is not correct English but is not a terrible mistake for a non-native speaker, such as the keeper of that site, to be making.