Done. I have a call in to join @home (filled in the www.rogers.com Web page Friday, waiting for callback). I called a sales weenie who forwarded me to a tech guy who took the UDP seriously. I let both of them know that I wouldn't go through with my installation until they resoved their UDP problem.
You can tell your usenet client to pick up its news items from any server. Performance is better from your ISP, but it is not the biggest concern. I'm not sure who the usenet (sometimes called "Internet News" or "newsgroups" providers are. I've picked up the impression that buying this service from someone other than your ISP costs real money. (my impression is about US$10 a month)
The author of the slashdot story misread the original DEJA reference. The 12th is the date of the posting of the usenet message, not the UDP. The UDP is set for 17:00 (local) on the 18th (GMT 0100 on the 19th)
Surely Deja has the volume to absorb a slashdotting. Their servers seem to have ground to a halt.
The tech support boiler-room for Rogers.com (one of the @home resellers) was unaware of the UDP call. There is no response yet at Rogers.
The Deja page is an archive of a usenet news posting. If Deja falls over, you should be able to pick up the usenet posting from your NEWS: server.( Posted to: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet ; news.admin.net-abuse.policy ; news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins ; news.admin.announce )
CP/M-86 was available for the Aug 81 roll-out of the PC, but the period we're discussing is late '80. What is the date on your 8" CP/M-86?
The "mythological" version of the story is that MS told IBM to go to DR becase "we don't do OS's". MS only came up with MS-DOS (aka SB-86, AKA QDOS 0.1, etc) when IBM was unable to negotiate a pre-release deal with DR.
When you say "several years" before Aug 81, that would imply 1978 or so.
While the 8086 was out in 1978, I don't believe your claim that the OS for it was out so early.
My response is, what the HELL? we settled over that!!! Especially when I ruminate over the fact that it only appears in a single beta, never saw a shipping customer, doesn't mention DR-DOS, AND allows you to continue unhindered.
I'm not sure what the equivalent version was for the production release of Win 3.1. I was a DR-DOS 6 user when I went to install !in 3.1. There was a spurious error that I could NOT continue from. If I booted from a MSDOS floppy before installing win 3.1, then the install process worked perfectly, and the installed windows worked perfectly.
As a retail customer of all three products, I was bitten by spurious errors during win 3.1 installation on DR-Dos. I forget what the actual error messages were. Eventually MS gave me a copy of DOS 6.0 in exchange for sitting through a presentation on how wonderful it was, and I stopped paying attention to DR. I forget what the spurious errors were.
Is caffeine still forbidden in citrus drinks? I seem to recall something from spring 99 or so where the rules were being channged to allow caffeine in citrus drinks. Is MD considered a citrus-flavoured drink?
Last time i checked, the UK was in Europe. Although lately i wish we wern't;)
I heard a preliminary news item about reports of a rumour... (eg I "heard somewhere)
suggesting that Britain was opening negotiations to try to get into NAFTA (or whatever we call it these days). Any reports on that side of the Atlantic?
If the end-user has switched on a function that will change frequencies based on the claimed content by the new channel, then the opportunities for abuse are wide-open.
Did the article really say This will allow them to find out precisely how the pirates operate their listener-stealing trick. Gak! The article says that there is a code you transmit to tell the recipient's radio that you are transmitting an announcement. Is the "how" any more complex than it looks on the surface?
Whether or not they come up with a spamblock technique at the regulatory level, the radios should have killfiles anyhow. "I want to listen to priority traffic announcements except for those on 102.7 MHz"
I was reading one story where the consensus was "the/. author got taken by a hoax". Within the next few days there was a story that accidentally rehashed something very old, another (consensus belief) hoax, and one that has ALREADY been reported and dealt with.
So the basis for story rating I wanted to see was the opinion by very-high-karma users on whether a story was (1) very old, (2) Duplicate of something already discussed to death, (3) probable hoax.
If we have down-moderation, we need grounds for up-moderation to even out the occasional outlier ratings by someone whose opinions do not match the consensus. The only reason I can think of to up-moderate in the case I'm discussing is "Story was unreasonably downed. It is *TOO* new and valid.
Summary: I want story moderation to down-check particular types of unwanted stories.
Some more of the context is I feel like a parent that has to take away a marketing tool, I mean benchmark, because no one is playing fair.
It sounds like the card makers are hacking the benchmark rather than writing better general purpose drivers/hardware. I seem to recall some issues with Number 9 doing something like this a half decade or so back (obtaining benchmark results 50X better than anybody else or some such)
People depend on benchmarks. Hardware companies can force-fit their stuff to match a particular benchmark. I think he was saying this between the lines, and implying that he thinks it is cheating.
As far as I can remember both articles mentioned that for online-gamers the card would have a slight delay
Toms had a "preview" and a full review of the release version. In the full review he goes in looking for this latency and failed to find any. He mentions that his search for latency was subjective, but he withdrew his earlier [statements?][predictions?]. Are you sure you read the latest version of the Toms review?
(My employer's URL blocker won't let me look at the sharky's site.)
"Hackers often have a reading range that astonishes liberal arts people but tend not to talk about it as much." Garbage. Why garbage? Many of my friends and aquaintances are "liberal arts people" and quite a few have been surprised when they beheld my library,
Why garbage? The dictionary says "astonishes". You say "surprised". It looks like an exact match!
The security is great, but it's done via a small proxy program from Entrust which is only available for Win32 - if you're a Linux or Mac monogamist, you're out of luck with Scotia Online.
A few years back, I was helping a foaf set up a modem in his Mac. None of the Mac programs were willing to even see the modem, but his Toronto Dominion OLB program was willing to dial up and do everything it was supposed to. All from within the MSDOS emulation box. Not being a Mac expert, I threw up my hands at that point and we all went out drinking.
It depends on what the original poster meant by "banking". I do everything that I think of as "banking" at Canada Trust on the Web, and have been doing so for at least two years. This gives me free bill payments to any vendor they're set up for (including competing credit cards), to-the-minute access to my mastercard statement, to-the-minute access to my bank accounts, shuffling money between accounts etc. I can see (but not shuffle) money in my registered pension mutual funds (RRSP in Canada, 401K to you people?) and the current balance on my mortgage. I can retrieve at least three months of detailed statements on any of these.
It sounded like the original poster was expecting stock trades through the "on-line banking". I don't think of day-trading as "banking", but definitions of such things are probably regional or generational. (At 42, I'm elderly online).
John W Campbell, Jr once wrote an editorial nominating the horse collar as one of the top inventions of this millennium. It allows the heavy-load work to be shifted from strong-but-slow oxen to strong-but-fast horses. Prior to the horse collar, you had to keep the load drawn by each horse very light to avoid choking the horse. Thus you get Roman chariots with two or four horses to draw some pretty lightweight chariots. With the right coupling, these loads can be drawn faster with a single horse.
Computers are not black box, consumer appliances in the same sense as cars.
Cars are not necessarily black boxes. When my Escort version 83 engine became corrupted, I hadn't saved a backup. My mechanic suggested an upgrade since he considered Escort Engine to be an unstable product in any pre-90 release. Based on availability, we installed Tempo Engine 85 instead. Apparently both use the same API set.
How special are all these? I live in a fairly geek town (Vancouver, BC, Canada) and the guy next to me has 4 Mb/s net access from an ethernet plug in the wall of his RENTAL apartment. A friend of mine has a down payment in on a condo apartment with a high speed (he works for an ISP, so his phrase "high-speed" would mean somthing above ADSL. I don't know telecom terminology well enough) connection in the basement to a cache server with ethernet to every apartment. But the name of the development ("Boulevard") sounds to be aimed at generic intelligentsia rather than tech geeks. Any neighborhood without the CHOICE between cable modem and ADSL is considered a ghetto.
Intricate telecom is mainstream. Or is that just my mistaken impression from living in a city that is at least not LOSING the geek wars too deeply.
(Our liability is a regional government that is actively hostile towards capital, and that has been openly corrupt through several administrations and two parties)(We also have weather problems... Spring/Summer are great, but autumn and winter are great grey masses of bleak depression. No snow -- that would be to clean and white and shiny)
I don't know what the Army's gonna use some of this stuff for (DVD??)
DVD is BIG. My employer has a dedicated DVD somewhere on the network permanently hosting a 10+ GB archive problems database that Microsoft provides. (Need a big db for MS problems?)
17 GB on a mass-printed medium versus 2/3 GB? It's a no-brainer. So long as the DVD is verified to read conventional CDR and CDRW. My own DVD is an early one that cannot read any CDR.
Suing over this is simply suing against the public's right to information.
I'm surprised that nobody is expressing the "links" issue as one of "freedom of the press".
Linking to information is a case of reporting that information exists. I don't think that you need to be a registered newspaper to have "freedom of the press", do you? Are there any constitutional lawyers who can address this?
An injunction against "links" is a prior restraint against reporting news. Can this possibly be legal in the United States?
I an not a lawyer, and indeed, not even American. Don't depend on my opinions when you should be consulting a lawyser.
Joe User will not be checking the discussions linked to the CNN article, but other journalists will. "CNN blew the ETOYS story" is an angle that a local journalist can take to further HIS career.
So keep the "Who is the real hijacker?" and "Who really denied service for an entire month?" questions at the top of the CNN discussion list.
Cyberpunk is not the issue. With Asimov, he fell into a vat of saccharine sometime about 1970. Coupled with the fact that he wrote no novels from Sputnik until about 1973 (?) you get either syrup or dated from him.
Other than a few problems with being pre-feminist, Asimov's first two "Caves of Steel" novels have held up OK. Other authors wrote stuff that have held up well over time.
For example, any of the first decade of Niven/Pournelle collaboration novels have held up well. (Ignore the PC references in Hammer -- they are not important to the plot).
Slashdot Mirror
Done. I have a call in to join @home (filled in the www.rogers.com Web page Friday, waiting for callback). I called a sales weenie who forwarded me to a tech guy who took the UDP seriously. I let both of them know that I wouldn't go through with my installation until they resoved their UDP problem.
You can tell your usenet client to pick up its news items from any server. Performance is better from your ISP, but it is not the biggest concern. I'm not sure who the usenet (sometimes called "Internet News" or "newsgroups" providers are. I've picked up the impression that buying this service from someone other than your ISP costs real money. (my impression is about US$10 a month)
A quick net search pointed to: National Usenet Newsgroup Providers
The author of the slashdot story misread the original DEJA reference. The 12th is the date of the posting of the usenet message, not the UDP. The UDP is set for 17:00 (local) on the 18th (GMT 0100 on the 19th)
Surely Deja has the volume to absorb a slashdotting. Their servers seem to have ground to a halt.
The tech support boiler-room for Rogers.com (one of the @home resellers) was unaware of the UDP call. There is no response yet at Rogers.
The Deja page is an archive of a usenet news posting. If Deja falls over, you should be able to pick up the usenet posting from your NEWS: server.( Posted to: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet ; news.admin.net-abuse.policy ; news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins ; news.admin.announce )
The faq for UDP is
http://www.stopspam.org/usenet/faqs/udp.html
Last I checked, 7up and Sprite HAD caffeine...
I remember an authoritative black guy in early eighties(?) 7Up advertising. "Caffeine? Never had it. Never will.". Did they change?
Is "never will" a promise we can hold them to?
CP/M-86 was available for the Aug 81 roll-out of the PC, but the period we're discussing is late '80. What is the date on your 8" CP/M-86?
The "mythological" version of the story is that MS told IBM to go to DR becase "we don't do OS's". MS only came up with MS-DOS (aka SB-86, AKA QDOS 0.1, etc) when IBM was unable to negotiate a pre-release deal with DR.
When you say "several years" before Aug 81, that would imply 1978 or so.
While the 8086 was out in 1978, I don't believe your claim that the OS for it was out so early.
My response is, what the HELL? we settled over that!!! Especially when I ruminate over the fact that it only appears in a single beta, never saw a shipping customer, doesn't mention DR-DOS, AND allows you to continue unhindered.
I'm not sure what the equivalent version was for the production release of Win 3.1. I was a DR-DOS 6 user when I went to install !in 3.1. There was a spurious error that I could NOT continue from. If I booted from a MSDOS floppy before installing win 3.1, then the install process worked perfectly, and the installed windows worked perfectly.
As a retail customer of all three products, I was bitten by spurious errors during win 3.1 installation on DR-Dos. I forget what the actual error messages were. Eventually MS gave me a copy of DOS 6.0 in exchange for sitting through a presentation on how wonderful it was, and I stopped paying attention to DR. I forget what the spurious errors were.
Is caffeine still forbidden in citrus drinks? I seem to recall something from spring 99 or so where the rules were being channged to allow caffeine in citrus drinks. Is MD considered a citrus-flavoured drink?
Last time i checked, the UK was in Europe. Although lately i wish we wern't ;)
... (eg I "heard somewhere)
I heard a preliminary news item about reports of a rumour
suggesting that Britain was opening negotiations to try to get into NAFTA (or whatever we call it these days). Any reports on that side of the Atlantic?
If the end-user has switched on a function that will change frequencies based on the claimed content by the new channel, then the opportunities for abuse are wide-open.
Did the article really say This will allow them to find out precisely how the pirates operate their listener-stealing trick. Gak! The article says that there is a code you transmit to tell the recipient's radio that you are transmitting an announcement. Is the "how" any more complex than it looks on the surface?
Whether or not they come up with a spamblock technique at the regulatory level, the radios should have killfiles anyhow. "I want to listen to priority traffic announcements except for those on 102.7 MHz"
I was reading one story where the consensus was "the /. author got taken by a hoax". Within the next few days there was a story that accidentally rehashed something very old, another (consensus belief) hoax, and one that has ALREADY been reported and dealt with.
So the basis for story rating I wanted to see was the opinion by very-high-karma users on whether a story was (1) very old, (2) Duplicate of something already discussed to death, (3) probable hoax.
If we have down-moderation, we need grounds for up-moderation to even out the occasional outlier ratings by someone whose opinions do not match the consensus. The only reason I can think of to up-moderate in the case I'm discussing is "Story was unreasonably downed. It is *TOO* new and valid.
Summary: I want story moderation to down-check particular types of unwanted stories.
Some more of the context is I feel like a parent that has to take away a marketing tool, I mean benchmark, because no one is playing fair.
It sounds like the card makers are hacking the benchmark rather than writing better general purpose drivers/hardware. I seem to recall some issues with Number 9 doing something like this a half decade or so back (obtaining benchmark results 50X better than anybody else or some such)
People depend on benchmarks. Hardware companies can force-fit their stuff to match a particular benchmark. I think he was saying this between the lines, and implying that he thinks it is cheating.
As far as I can remember both articles mentioned that for online-gamers the card would have a slight delay
Toms had a "preview" and a full review of the release version. In the full review he goes in looking for this latency and failed to find any. He mentions that his search for latency was subjective, but he withdrew his earlier [statements?][predictions?]. Are you sure you read the latest version of the Toms review?
(My employer's URL blocker won't let me look at the sharky's site.)
"Hackers often have a reading range that astonishes liberal arts people but tend not to talk about it as much." Garbage.
Why garbage? Many of my friends and aquaintances are "liberal arts people" and quite a few have been surprised when they beheld my library,
Why garbage? The dictionary says "astonishes". You say "surprised". It looks like an exact match!
The security is great, but it's done via a small proxy program from Entrust which is only available for Win32 - if you're a Linux or Mac monogamist, you're out of luck with Scotia Online.
A few years back, I was helping a foaf set up a modem in his Mac. None of the Mac programs were willing to even see the modem, but his Toronto Dominion OLB program was willing to dial up and do everything it was supposed to. All from within the MSDOS emulation box. Not being a Mac expert, I threw up my hands at that point and we all went out drinking.
It depends on what the original poster meant by "banking". I do everything that I think of as "banking" at Canada Trust on the Web, and have been doing so for at least two years. This gives me free bill payments to any vendor they're set up for (including competing credit cards), to-the-minute access to my mastercard statement, to-the-minute access to my bank accounts, shuffling money between accounts etc. I can see (but not shuffle) money in my registered pension mutual funds (RRSP in Canada, 401K to you people?) and the current balance on my mortgage. I can retrieve at least three months of detailed statements on any of these.
It sounded like the original poster was expecting stock trades through the "on-line banking". I don't think of day-trading as "banking", but definitions of such things are probably regional or generational. (At 42, I'm elderly online).
John W Campbell, Jr once wrote an editorial nominating the horse collar as one of the top inventions of this millennium. It allows the heavy-load work to be shifted from strong-but-slow oxen to strong-but-fast horses. Prior to the horse collar, you had to keep the load drawn by each horse very light to avoid choking the horse. Thus you get Roman chariots with two or four horses to draw some pretty lightweight chariots. With the right coupling, these loads can be drawn faster with a single horse.
Computers are not black box, consumer appliances in the same sense as cars.
Cars are not necessarily black boxes. When my Escort version 83 engine became corrupted, I hadn't saved a backup. My mechanic suggested an upgrade since he considered Escort Engine to be an unstable product in any pre-90 release. Based on availability, we installed Tempo Engine 85 instead. Apparently both use the same API set.
This site gave me good information an hour ago, but it appears to be down now (11:25 Pacific time).
Are they equipped for the hit volumes? Who is IY2KCC?
How special are all these? I live in a fairly geek town (Vancouver, BC, Canada) and the guy next to me has 4 Mb/s net access from an ethernet plug in the wall of his RENTAL apartment. A friend of mine has a down payment in on a condo apartment with a high speed (he works for an ISP, so his phrase "high-speed" would mean somthing above ADSL. I don't know telecom terminology well enough) connection in the basement to a cache server with ethernet to every apartment. But the name of the development ("Boulevard") sounds to be aimed at generic intelligentsia rather than tech geeks. Any neighborhood without the CHOICE between cable modem and ADSL is considered a ghetto.
... Spring/Summer are great, but autumn and winter are great grey masses of bleak depression. No snow -- that would be to clean and white and shiny)
Intricate telecom is mainstream. Or is that just my mistaken impression from living in a city that is at least not LOSING the geek wars too deeply.
(Our liability is a regional government that is actively hostile towards capital, and that has been openly corrupt through several administrations and two parties)(We also have weather problems
I don't know what the Army's gonna use some of this stuff for (DVD??)
DVD is BIG. My employer has a dedicated DVD somewhere on the network permanently hosting a 10+ GB archive problems database that Microsoft provides. (Need a big db for MS problems?)
17 GB on a mass-printed medium versus 2/3 GB? It's a no-brainer. So long as the DVD is verified to read conventional CDR and CDRW. My own DVD is an early one that cannot read any CDR.
Suing over this is simply suing against the public's right to information.
I'm surprised that nobody is expressing the "links" issue as one of "freedom of the press".
Linking to information is a case of reporting that information exists. I don't think that you need to be a registered newspaper to have "freedom of the press", do you? Are there any constitutional lawyers who can address this?
An injunction against "links" is a prior restraint against reporting news. Can this possibly be legal in the United States?
I an not a lawyer, and indeed, not even American. Don't depend on my opinions when you should be consulting a lawyser.
Joe User will not be checking the discussions linked to the CNN article, but other journalists will. "CNN blew the ETOYS story" is an angle that a local journalist can take to further HIS career.
So keep the "Who is the real hijacker?" and "Who really denied service for an entire month?" questions at the top of the CNN discussion list.
The version of the story on the NY Times says that the son thought that the unit was a gift from a friend AT microsoft. Not a retail purchase.
(Don't mod me up for finding this story. RedX posted it way above)
Cyberpunk is not the issue. With Asimov, he fell into a vat of saccharine sometime about 1970. Coupled with the fact that he wrote no novels from Sputnik until about 1973 (?) you get either syrup or dated from him.
Other than a few problems with being pre-feminist, Asimov's first two "Caves of Steel" novels have held up OK. Other authors wrote stuff that have held up well over time.
For example, any of the first decade of Niven/Pournelle collaboration novels have held up well. (Ignore the PC references in Hammer -- they are not important to the plot).
I occasionally worked for Canada Robotics, named (I believe) after the modem company, in turn named after the Asimov corporation.