Brings to mind the Tom Lehrer song "Oedipus Rex"...
From the Bible to the popular song, There's one theme that we find right along, Of all ideals they hold as good, The most sublime is motherhood. There was a man, though, who it seems, Once carried this ideal to extremes, He loved his mother and she loved him, And yet his story is rather grim.
There once lived a man named Oedipus Rex, You may have heard about his odd complex, His name appears in Freud's index, 'Cos he loved his mother!
His rivals used to say quite a bit, That as a monarch he was most unfit, But still in all, they had to admit That he loved his mother!
Yes he loved his mother like no other, His daughter was his sister And his son was his brother, One thing on which you can depend is, He sure knew who a boy's best friend is!
When he found what he had done, He tore his eyes out one by one, A tragic end to a loyal son, Who loved his mother!
So be sweet and kind to mother, Now and then have a chat, Buy her candy or some flowers, Or a brand-new hat - But maybe you'd better let it go that... Or you might find yourself with a quite complex complex, And you may end up like Oedipus, I'd rather marry a duck-billed platypus, Then end up like old Oedipus Rex!
Linux cannot write NTFS partitions. You could run ths thing on XP Embedded, but I'm sure that would not be help the cost if it "cost" the same amount of work from the designers as did Linux. If the design time was less with XPE such that the money saved was more than the cost of XPE, then, it very well may have made the thing cheaper, with NTFS, to boot.
Then again, you could use EXT3 or XFS, which cost nothing.
gravity alone could be used to generate electricity
That's what we do now.
- Fern from 1M years ago dies and washes down a sandy stream. - It's covered in layers and layers of dirt and sand. - It gets pressed and pressed by the material on top of it. - We dig it up as oil and put it in our cars and power plants.
Hmm..so what about trying to get user groups together?
For instance, users 3-1000 (I know who users 1 and 2 are. They already know each other), or, in your case, users 4900-4999. It would at least keep things small and manageable.
However, few of the.25M users in all would probably attend a general get-together, so even fewer would attend a "block of users" get-together.
How about doing something like what 2600 does with their meetings on a specific day at a specific time all around the world? Slashdot Michigan, Slashdot NY. Hey! Slashdot Maine could wear those shirts that say "Slashdot ME"!
What about the tapes used to do backups on servers? That's the same kind of tape (mylar, afaik), and it's computer files which are much less resistant to errors than video.
Won't they just have a "re-tension" option on the players?
Note that I REALLY recommend that people NOT hack/DoS/otherwise mess with their site
Hm. You know, you're right. I was really only just pointing that out to those who cared, but it would make things harder for those who already have it hard enough (the one's being sued). And that's EXACTLY what we don't want. Thank you for that bit of sanity.
showing off your l33t hacking skills
Thank you even more for the mere suggestion that I have l33t hacking skills. I never knew that typing in the URL bar was considered to be a l33t hacking skill.;-)
I don't know who would actually PAY for their crappy product.
Simple. The people who pay for RA are the ones that don't have 2 hours to maneuver their site looking for the little link that goes to the free Real Audio player.
It was rather humorous once when I was in a local computer shop and a tech told the customer to just download and install Real Audio (to do..whatever). After a while, I noted to the tech that the link on their site IS there, but is also very difficult to find. So, the customer and tech went over to a net-connected PC and started searching on the Real site. I was in the place for 10-15 minutes, and when I left, they were still looking. Actually, it's probably easier to just download Netscape 4, which gives you Real Audio as an option.
As with most topics, a cursory search of Google popped up this link. The relevant part:
Caffeine is a central nervous system stimulant that interferes with a neurotransmitter in the brain called adenosine. Caffeine also acts at other places in the body to increase heart rate, constrict blood vessels, relax air passages, and affect muscles. An overdose of caffeine is lethal to the coqui frog.
There is a link there to another page with examples of what they sound like. Though I'm rather against killing anything just to kill it, these ARE an alien species...so...erg. It's still a tough call. Damn conscience!
Wouldn't it have been better to compare these distrubutions to, say, Windows 2000 or XP Home? Or at least 98SE?
I mean, I think ME is pretty widely regarded as the suckiest Windows there is. It's also based on the old DOS kernel. Wouldn't it be better to compare Linux to Microsoft's more robust NT? There would at least be newer drivers in 2000 and XP.
Also, checking Mandrake and Redhat's sites, it seems as though these reviewers were comparing fairly new distributions against a fairly old Microsoft OS (released before W2K, AFAIK).
I just don't think that saying that these distributions were easier to install than Windows ME is saying too much. Besides, people will still want to install Windows, regardless of the ease of installation of these distributions. Now, if the machines came preloaded with Mandrake, or something like that, it MIGHT be SLIGHTLY different. But, I just don't see where many "regular" users are going to install Linux. They like Windows, it works, and they've got the old CD already. Their friends use it, too. And they use it at work, as well.
What if your file manager could sort files by type by looking at their "actual" type?
That way, regardless of their extension, you could search for all files of type "jpeg" or, hell, make it heirarchical, and search for all "images" or "movies".
So, you could call your cats Bob and your dogs Bob, and then search for them by looking for "felines" and "canines", or "animals".
Of course, all this searching through the files based on their makeup could strain the machine, so you'd make a database of files, their type, and their location in the tree of types, where it should then only be slow due to the speed of the database, rather than how fast your disk can read.
From what I've heard, BeOS and some Linux software (KDE?) can do this, already.
It could be that, or maybe your phone company put multiplexers on your lines so that they didn't have to run more copper. Those multiplexers kill your chances of getting 56k or DSL. That's the problem we have here (28.8 max), except that we gave in and got cable.
From what I've heard, when the phone companies (ours is SBC/Ameritech) use these multiplexers, it means that they can get 8 phone "lines" per copper wire. Therefore, they couldn't care less that you can't get 56k or DSL, it's making them a crapload more money and they are providing at least 14.4 (the minimum -- think "fax"; fax's go at 14.4). I've heard that you can get a wire all of your own, if you ask, but it's likely hard to get them to do something special just for one silly customer. Actually, if DSL is as costly for the phone companies as I've heard, it's unlikely that the phone company would even bother even if your entire neighborhood wanted 56k/DSL, you probably couldn't make them run more wires.
Perhaps this means that fiber/wireless could be a good answer to that problem. Run fiber to the neighborhood and set up 802.11a (max 54Mbit) WAP's around. Then sell Internet and VoIP services to the neighborhood. When 802.11a is out of date, install whatever is new. Since [todays] fiber technology is unlikely to go out of date too soon, the slowest link should be the WAP.
Of course, I'm no phone company tech or accountant, just a silly student, so of course it sounds like a simple solution to me!:-)
5x5?
Is that code for "well" or what?
Brings to mind the Tom Lehrer song "Oedipus Rex" ...
From the Bible to the popular song,
There's one theme that we find right along,
Of all ideals they hold as good,
The most sublime is motherhood.
There was a man, though, who it seems,
Once carried this ideal to extremes,
He loved his mother and she loved him,
And yet his story is rather grim.
There once lived a man named Oedipus Rex,
You may have heard about his odd complex,
His name appears in Freud's index,
'Cos he loved his mother!
His rivals used to say quite a bit,
That as a monarch he was most unfit,
But still in all, they had to admit
That he loved his mother!
Yes he loved his mother like no other,
His daughter was his sister
And his son was his brother,
One thing on which you can depend is,
He sure knew who a boy's best friend is!
When he found what he had done,
He tore his eyes out one by one,
A tragic end to a loyal son,
Who loved his mother!
So be sweet and kind to mother,
Now and then have a chat,
Buy her candy or some flowers,
Or a brand-new hat -
But maybe you'd better let it go that...
Or you might find yourself with a quite complex complex,
And you may end up like Oedipus,
I'd rather marry a duck-billed platypus,
Then end up like old Oedipus Rex!
Girl: What were you doing at my girlfriend's place!?
Guy: Uhh.. uhm..
Girl: You never told me you liked her! This is so awesome!
Guy: Heh, uh, what?
Girl: Next weekend, the three of us should get together for some fun!
Guy: !
Linux cannot write NTFS partitions. You could run ths thing on XP Embedded, but I'm sure that would not be help the cost if it "cost" the same amount of work from the designers as did Linux. If the design time was less with XPE such that the money saved was more than the cost of XPE, then, it very well may have made the thing cheaper, with NTFS, to boot.
Then again, you could use EXT3 or XFS, which cost nothing.
gravity alone could be used to generate electricity
That's what we do now.
- Fern from 1M years ago dies and washes down a sandy stream.
- It's covered in layers and layers of dirt and sand.
- It gets pressed and pressed by the material on top of it.
- We dig it up as oil and put it in our cars and power plants.
Tada! Gravity as a power source.
Or, you could wear these!
Hey, its another 49xx user!
.25M users in all would probably attend a general get-together, so even fewer would attend a "block of users" get-together.
Hmm..so what about trying to get user groups together?
For instance, users 3-1000 (I know who users 1 and 2 are. They already know each other), or, in your case, users 4900-4999. It would at least keep things small and manageable.
However, few of the
How about doing something like what 2600 does with their meetings on a specific day at a specific time all around the world? Slashdot Michigan, Slashdot NY. Hey! Slashdot Maine could wear those shirts that say "Slashdot ME"!
What about the tapes used to do backups on servers? That's the same kind of tape (mylar, afaik), and it's computer files which are much less resistant to errors than video.
Won't they just have a "re-tension" option on the players?
http://www.xxxchurch.com/ labels itself as "The number 1 christian pornography site."
Yes, it's actually an antiporn site.
Interesting approach, nonetheless.
I believe you meant www.wehavethewayout.com.
www.weknowthewayout.com is an Anti-MS/Unisys site with links to places where you can get more information about Linux and BSD and commercial Unixes.
Note that I REALLY recommend that people NOT hack/DoS/otherwise mess with their site
;-)
Hm. You know, you're right. I was really only just pointing that out to those who cared, but it would make things harder for those who already have it hard enough (the one's being sued). And that's EXACTLY what we don't want. Thank you for that bit of sanity.
showing off your l33t hacking skills
Thank you even more for the mere suggestion that I have l33t hacking skills. I never knew that typing in the URL bar was considered to be a l33t hacking skill.
You could always download the largest file from their public ftp server:
ftp://www.panip.com/lib32/libc.so.1
it's only a little over 2MB, though.
But, if most people use the username "Default User", the script could simply, for example, do:
cd ~/.mozilla/Default\ User/ [ENTER]
cd [TAB] [ENTER]
Tadaa! It's found your user directory. Most everything from there is standard.
I don't know who would actually PAY for their crappy product.
Simple. The people who pay for RA are the ones that don't have 2 hours to maneuver their site looking for the little link that goes to the free Real Audio player.
It was rather humorous once when I was in a local computer shop and a tech told the customer to just download and install Real Audio (to do..whatever). After a while, I noted to the tech that the link on their site IS there, but is also very difficult to find. So, the customer and tech went over to a net-connected PC and started searching on the Real site. I was in the place for 10-15 minutes, and when I left, they were still looking. Actually, it's probably easier to just download Netscape 4, which gives you Real Audio as an option.
Slashdot line of reasoning:
"The judge said something good about Microsoft... That *proves* that she is biased against *us*! Any impartial judge would always be on our side!"
If this exceeds $400 (or $800 for a couple travelling together)
Why the distinction for couples? Couldn't they just say $400/person?
I mean, isn't it obvious that, if it's $400 for one person, it will be $800 for a couple?
As with most topics, a cursory search of Google popped up this link. The relevant part:
Caffeine is a central nervous system stimulant that interferes with a neurotransmitter in the brain called adenosine. Caffeine also acts at other places in the body to increase heart rate, constrict blood vessels, relax air passages, and affect muscles. An overdose of caffeine is lethal to the coqui frog.
There is a link there to another page with examples of what they sound like. Though I'm rather against killing anything just to kill it, these ARE an alien species...so...erg. It's still a tough call. Damn conscience!
Wouldn't it have been better to compare these distrubutions to, say, Windows 2000 or XP Home? Or at least 98SE?
I mean, I think ME is pretty widely regarded as the suckiest Windows there is. It's also based on the old DOS kernel. Wouldn't it be better to compare Linux to Microsoft's more robust NT? There would at least be newer drivers in 2000 and XP.
Also, checking Mandrake and Redhat's sites, it seems as though these reviewers were comparing fairly new distributions against a fairly old Microsoft OS (released before W2K, AFAIK).
I just don't think that saying that these distributions were easier to install than Windows ME is saying too much. Besides, people will still want to install Windows, regardless of the ease of installation of these distributions. Now, if the machines came preloaded with Mandrake, or something like that, it MIGHT be SLIGHTLY different. But, I just don't see where many "regular" users are going to install Linux. They like Windows, it works, and they've got the old CD already. Their friends use it, too. And they use it at work, as well.
Don't think of it as failing to find E.T., but rather as succeeding in checking off one more place where E.T. isn't.
After all, I think I can say with some certainty that we'll find what we're looking for in the last place we look!
Moving back?
Does that mean the return of the oh-so-popular Geeks in Space ?
What if your file manager could sort files by type by looking at their "actual" type?
That way, regardless of their extension, you could search for all files of type "jpeg" or, hell, make it heirarchical, and search for all "images" or "movies".
So, you could call your cats Bob and your dogs Bob, and then search for them by looking for "felines" and "canines", or "animals".
Of course, all this searching through the files based on their makeup could strain the machine, so you'd make a database of files, their type, and their location in the tree of types, where it should then only be slow due to the speed of the database, rather than how fast your disk can read.
From what I've heard, BeOS and some Linux software (KDE?) can do this, already.
swinging both ways at ONCE
Do you mean, like, a quantum swing? Where you're not swinging forwards or backwards, but both simultaneously?
I can't wait to try one of those!
It could be that, or maybe your phone company put multiplexers on your lines so that they didn't have to run more copper. Those multiplexers kill your chances of getting 56k or DSL. That's the problem we have here (28.8 max), except that we gave in and got cable.
:-)
From what I've heard, when the phone companies (ours is SBC/Ameritech) use these multiplexers, it means that they can get 8 phone "lines" per copper wire. Therefore, they couldn't care less that you can't get 56k or DSL, it's making them a crapload more money and they are providing at least 14.4 (the minimum -- think "fax"; fax's go at 14.4). I've heard that you can get a wire all of your own, if you ask, but it's likely hard to get them to do something special just for one silly customer. Actually, if DSL is as costly for the phone companies as I've heard, it's unlikely that the phone company would even bother even if your entire neighborhood wanted 56k/DSL, you probably couldn't make them run more wires.
Perhaps this means that fiber/wireless could be a good answer to that problem. Run fiber to the neighborhood and set up 802.11a (max 54Mbit) WAP's around. Then sell Internet and VoIP services to the neighborhood. When 802.11a is out of date, install whatever is new. Since [todays] fiber technology is unlikely to go out of date too soon, the slowest link should be the WAP.
Of course, I'm no phone company tech or accountant, just a silly student, so of course it sounds like a simple solution to me!
This is the online equivalent.
Or, to quote a response to my post to this thread, "it explains what masturbation is."
Anyone wish to inform those of us too wimpy to try this what this is?
Thanks.
We've gone with Earthlink cable here. It's quite nice. Archive.org is much nicer when your downloads take minutes rather than hours.
This in particular makes me fear that Earthlink may go the way of TWC. And then what, back to 28.8? Oh, please, no!