You have to PRINT stuff in order to keep it alive. I tried this. HP's really sneaky, eh? You have to print gobs and gobs of stuff so you can keep your fish alive. Then you go and buy more printer cartridges. Thus HP gets your money....HP, sneaky sneaky.
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I must agree. Some of the opening noises(music?) wouldn't be so annoying if they weren't played for so long. It kind of reminds me of Conan O'Brian's opening schpeal, it would be good if he didn't stand up there so long (he needs Andy to help him out. Too bad Andy will be leaving.:( ).
Other than that, I'm really enjoying the shows. Thanks!
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To me, the whole point of GNU/Linux is that it is basically the same as all of the commercial options. It's just that we get to change stuff if we want to and that it's cheaper to obtain.
Will GNU/Linux ever come out with stuff that's different from that of it's competitors?
Maybe.
Will it copy stuff from it's competitors? Yes.
It's easier/cheaper to let someone else design something and then design a product that works just like it. That's why PCs are so popular (and everywhere - you don't even call them IBM Clones anymore..just PCs). IBM designed an architecture and then there were copies made of it.
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And also, brain cells are not too fond of alcohol. I think they're important for any serious work, too. Not that anyone who drinks is immediately going to go brain dead...but I would think of someone's drinking habits being like someone's sexual habits...they're there, you just ignore them(don't ask "So, what's your favorite beer?" I would answer "I don't drink. I prefer Coke. It's much cheaper!(The cola, I mean.)" ).
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He mentioned getting rid of the 8.3 package names in favor of something more descriptive. While I agree that something more descriptive would be more helpful, typing in all that stuff can be annoying. It's just simpler to type "installpkg workbone.tgz". Having to do "installpkg workbone-final-4.2.1.tgz" seems like more than it's worth. Well, maybe they could include some symlinks to the long filenames.
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Where'd you download it? I wrote to them to ask if they had it available and they just sent me their ad schedule and told me about their cute screensaver...blah!
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The article said that they'd be letting them down over uninhabited areas. I think it would be more interesting to let them down over peoples' houses..err..backyards...given that those people signed lots of papers that said that it was okay. Hey, these people could get some nifty stuff!
Or, I was wondering why they couldn't possibly use some of the materials in these in the International Space Station. There's got to be some useful metals or maybe they could scrap it for the screws.:)
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About glass flowing: Don't forget that you're thinking of windows. Large panes of glass that are sitting still for many many years. These are small little spinning disks. The only real possible problem would be that it would bend or that the glass would be thicker at the outside of the drive than at the inside (the disks are SPINNING, not sitting still). But, if this was possible, maybe it could be prevented by setting up the drive vertically. Anyway, my.02...
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I'm not really sure how good/bad the Mindspring/Earthlink thing would be, though. It didn't last long enough.
Correction!!! We'll see how good/bad this new company is. I guess I disregarded the foot icon and took it as fact. Oh well, my comments still stand. Mindspring is/was an awesome ISP.
Now that I think about it. The article did read rather oddly and the quotes did not sound like something someone would say to the press. Oh well, that was fun!
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Speaking from experience, Sprynet/Mindspring/Earthlink is a VERY good ISP. Very VERY Linux-friendly. They have an awesome online tech support thing (except that it's Java)
Well, first there was Compuserve. They then had this little ISP branch called Sprynet. Sprynet later merged with Mindspring. Everything was cool. I'm not really sure how good/bad the Mindspring/Earthlink thing would be, though. It didn't last long enough.
I haven't had much/any experience with national ISPs other than Sprynet/Mindspring/Earthlink but I would suggest them as they are reliable and they have awesome tech support. They're also pretty cool people. I guess some of them have roadrunner (cable modem) at home, too and when my uncle called to tell them that he was cancelling his account, they were like "Oh, you got roadrunner, eh. Pretty nice!"(Well, something like that. Similar to a[n] MS employee saying "Oh, you're putting Linux on that box? Spiffy!").
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That's Aflac. Not Affleck. And it's a duck. The guys are talking about their insurance and wondering what to do. The duck is trying to get them to get Aflac. They ignore him (It's a DUCK! What does it know about insurance?!). IMO it's a damn funny commercial(most are dull and unimaginative. Sort of like an average school reseearch paper...blah). Okay, okay, (Offtopic, -1)...but it IS on topic for this particular thread.
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A couple of people have mentioned that this is reminiscent of our beloved AOL CDs. Yeah? So? This is great! AOL CDs are ubiquitous (everywhere) and look at them! AOL is (they say) the largest ISP there is! Making Linux CDs ubiquitous, too, can be nothing but good!
Next 2 months at McDonalds: A different flavor of Linux every week! Collect all eight!!!
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Remember who owns ABC? Disney. Maybe that's why they have to be so careful? Although I thought ABC and Disney were related to Paramount which has put out lots of movies that were R...maybe worse? I dunno. Also, these are broadcast stations, they have to try to appeal to as many people as possible. And even if they do turn some people off because they are lot liberal enough, they will still look good because you can't say "Hey, you cut out all of the cuss words!! That's wrong!!!" They |did/will do| the right thing either way by being so picky.
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Telnet? Blech! You can't download anything. I kind of miss watching the CPS go around 1000 to 2000 CPS or more (I'm still on a modem...but it's not the same).
What I'm talking about is a real dialup BBS. The coolest thing about those was that most of those people lived right in your area. For all I know, the webservers I download from could be on the other side of the planet (that might explain some terrible download speeds). Also, no matter how cheezy the ANSI graphics looked at the time, they still required some really good skills. Now, just download Photoshop from warez.slashdot.org (Pater/Potter/CowboyNeal said it existed in one episode of GiS), and you can make all the nifty title grapgics you can. Blah, boring.
[Going off on a tangent]
In a way, I feel like I missed out on a lot of the BBS stuff. Just when I was really getting in to it, some of the boards I used were starting to become parttime ISPs. CompuServe was SOO cool because you could search an encyclopedia (WOW. find ANYTHING you WANT!). Then C$ gave everyone 5 hours of all services p/month. So we got on the web. Wow! We can download pictures and see them at the same time....woooaahhhh! Now, it's all glitzy. I want to go back to my roots.
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This could be a really interesting scenerio(sp?). They could pick, say, the top 30 people and announce their names. Then, say some company is looking for a web designer. So, they say "hey, these people know what they are doing and can save us bandwidth money! hire 'em!" Imagine how wonderful the web would be if there weren't so much useless crap being sent around.
On a slightly related note (in that BBSs were really cool-looking despite the constraints) I wish BBSs would come back. Sometimes, the web just seems too big for me. I know they won't. (At least, not like they were when I was in to them (right before they all started to die ): ))
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Thanks. I honestly didn't know what it meant. Although, later on in this thread, someone mentioned something about Australia's money compared to America's money. So, I would have understood had I waited a little while.
Oh well. Thank you for your explanation.
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The Geeks in Space interview was pretty close to zero content.
Agreed. And so it has been with the last three or four episodes. I enjoy the techie banter (is banter the word? I don't know. Rambling, maybe.) but these last couple shows have had a rather low signal:noise ratio(low signal:high noise).
Also, they used to scramble the cussing or watch their mouths. I don't think that, being the influential group that we/they are, I want people who are putting on a radio show, and saying that their typical geeks, to be using that language (ACK! I sound like an old-timer parent!) For example, in one of the earlier shows, I think it was Rob who said 'holy shit' (using asterisks is stupid, you can still tell what I'm saying) and they scrambled it. Okay, I will admit that scrambling 'shit' is a bit much (although, you could have just said 'holy crap' but, as the maid on the original "The Parent Trap" said, "What's done is done.") but, come on, Emmet says 'fuck' and it's left alone. Personally, I think there are something like levels of 'badness' with cuss words. 'Fuck', 'bitch', etc, are more 'bad' than 'shit', 'ass', 'damn', 'hell'. Besides, why use the F word when we have FSCK!?
[/me steps down from soap box]
Anyway, watch the language(scramble it out, use other words), and more signal, less noise.
Thanks!
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OTOH if it does come out like that at that price, I'm going to buy one and butcher it for components for my current (P200) PC.
At that price, I doubt they are going to be using standard parts. I'm willing to bet that making proprietary parts, while expensive because they have to design it themselves, would end up making things cheaper for us because we cannot use them in any way other than in this box. Of course, you could hack it, but that's illegal. Not like that's ever stopped people before...but still, it IS illegal. Unless you were designing a box to play the same games and the box ran Linux...then reverse engineering for purposes of interoperability might come in to play.
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"Linux is a free Unix-type operating system originally created by Linus Torvalds with the assistance of developers around the world. Linux is an independent POSIX implementation and includes true multitasking, virtual memory, shared libraries, demand loading, proper memory manegment, TCP/IP networking, and other features consistent with Unix-type systems. Developed under the GNU General Public License, the source code for Linux is freely available to everyone." - linux.org
"Linux is a free Unix-like operating system orinally created by Linus Torvalds with the assistance of many developers from around the world. Linux is POSIX certified implementation and includes true multitasking, virtual memory, shared libraries, demand loading, modern memory management, TCP/IP networking, and other features consistent with Unix systems. Published under the GNU General Public License, the source code for the Linux operating systems freely available to everyone." - ppclinux.apple.com
Ah! But the best part is how he got in trouble. His science teacher asks the class who first thought of the concept of asexual reproduction. He mumbles something to Ally(I've forgotten her character...too lazy to look it up) and his teacher asks him what they are laughing about. He answers "Your wife?" That was great! Then he goes to the principals office and looks up his password. He later dials into the schools network(through his 300 baud coupler modem)
And I don't remember anything about absences. I do, however, remember him presenting his report card to his obliviously proud parents. Then he gives the girl an A and she falls in love with him. Bah!
I don't think Ferris was that much of a geek. He just didn't want to go to school. But I'm no authority on movies...
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some sort of paper-eating fish
:)
Yeah. And I think it lives better when you print a four-page poster in full color on your HP Laserjet 5000c color laser printer.
And don't forget to make copies for your friends!
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You have to PRINT stuff in order to keep it alive. I tried this. HP's really sneaky, eh? You have to print gobs and gobs of stuff so you can keep your fish alive. Then you go and buy more printer cartridges. Thus HP gets your money....HP, sneaky sneaky.
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I must agree. Some of the opening noises(music?) wouldn't be so annoying if they weren't played for so long. It kind of reminds me of Conan O'Brian's opening schpeal, it would be good if he didn't stand up there so long (he needs Andy to help him out. Too bad Andy will be leaving. :( ).
Other than that, I'm really enjoying the shows. Thanks!
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To me, the whole point of GNU/Linux is that it is basically the same as all of the commercial options. It's just that we get to change stuff if we want to and that it's cheaper to obtain.
Will GNU/Linux ever come out with stuff that's different from that of it's competitors?
Maybe.
Will it copy stuff from it's competitors?
Yes.
It's easier/cheaper to let someone else design something and then design a product that works just like it. That's why PCs are so popular (and everywhere - you don't even call them IBM Clones anymore..just PCs). IBM designed an architecture and then there were copies made of it.
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And also, brain cells are not too fond of alcohol. I think they're important for any serious work, too. Not that anyone who drinks is immediately going to go brain dead...but I would think of someone's drinking habits being like someone's sexual habits...they're there, you just ignore them(don't ask "So, what's your favorite beer?" I would answer "I don't drink. I prefer Coke. It's much cheaper!(The cola, I mean.)" ).
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The contestants were "Katy the Kangaroo," "Elmo the Elephant," "Newt the Gnu"...
...or something like that.
..ah..nevermind.
Too bad they didn't choose the Gnu. "Opensource Kernels of Korn"
Or "Cheesy Shells of Korn"?
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He mentioned getting rid of the 8.3 package names in favor of something more descriptive. While I agree that something more descriptive would be more helpful, typing in all that stuff can be annoying. It's just simpler to type "installpkg workbone.tgz". Having to do "installpkg workbone-final-4.2.1.tgz" seems like more than it's worth. Well, maybe they could include some symlinks to the long filenames.
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Where'd you download it? I wrote to them to ask if they had it available and they just sent me their ad schedule and told me about their cute screensaver...blah!
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The article said that they'd be letting them down over uninhabited areas. I think it would be more interesting to let them down over peoples' houses..err..backyards...given that those people signed lots of papers that said that it was okay. Hey, these people could get some nifty stuff!
:)
Or, I was wondering why they couldn't possibly use some of the materials in these in the International Space Station. There's got to be some useful metals or maybe they could scrap it for the screws.
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About glass flowing: .02...
Don't forget that you're thinking of windows. Large panes of glass that are sitting still for many many years. These are small little spinning disks. The only real possible problem would be that it would bend or that the glass would be thicker at the outside of the drive than at the inside (the disks are SPINNING, not sitting still). But, if this was possible, maybe it could be prevented by setting up the drive vertically. Anyway, my
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I'm not really sure how good/bad the Mindspring/Earthlink thing would be, though. It didn't last long enough.
Correction!!! We'll see how good/bad this new company is. I guess I disregarded the foot icon and took it as fact. Oh well, my comments still stand. Mindspring is/was an awesome ISP.
Now that I think about it. The article did read rather oddly and the quotes did not sound like something someone would say to the press. Oh well, that was fun!
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Speaking from experience, Sprynet/Mindspring/Earthlink is a VERY good ISP. Very VERY Linux-friendly. They have an awesome online tech support thing (except that it's Java)
Well, first there was Compuserve. They then had this little ISP branch called Sprynet. Sprynet later merged with Mindspring. Everything was cool. I'm not really sure how good/bad the Mindspring/Earthlink thing would be, though. It didn't last long enough.
I haven't had much/any experience with national ISPs other than Sprynet/Mindspring/Earthlink but I would suggest them as they are reliable and they have awesome tech support. They're also pretty cool people. I guess some of them have roadrunner (cable modem) at home, too and when my uncle called to tell them that he was cancelling his account, they were like "Oh, you got roadrunner, eh. Pretty nice!"(Well, something like that. Similar to a[n] MS employee saying "Oh, you're putting Linux on that box? Spiffy!").
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Even more offtopic...here's a shot from the commercial.
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That's Aflac. Not Affleck. And it's a duck. The guys are talking about their insurance and wondering what to do. The duck is trying to get them to get Aflac. They ignore him (It's a DUCK! What does it know about insurance?!). IMO it's a damn funny commercial(most are dull and unimaginative. Sort of like an average school reseearch paper...blah). Okay, okay, (Offtopic, -1)...but it IS on topic for this particular thread.
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A couple of people have mentioned that this is reminiscent of our beloved AOL CDs. Yeah? So? This is great! AOL CDs are ubiquitous (everywhere) and look at them! AOL is (they say) the largest ISP there is! Making Linux CDs ubiquitous, too, can be nothing but good!
Next 2 months at McDonalds: A different flavor of Linux every week! Collect all eight!!!
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Funny...I didn't notice that spelling error until you pointed it out. I probably filtered it out :)
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Remember who owns ABC? Disney. Maybe that's why they have to be so careful? Although I thought ABC and Disney were related to Paramount which has put out lots of movies that were R...maybe worse? I dunno. Also, these are broadcast stations, they have to try to appeal to as many people as possible. And even if they do turn some people off because they are lot liberal enough, they will still look good because you can't say "Hey, you cut out all of the cuss words!! That's wrong!!!" They |did/will do| the right thing either way by being so picky.
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Telnet? Blech! You can't download anything. I kind of miss watching the CPS go around 1000 to 2000 CPS or more (I'm still on a modem...but it's not the same).
What I'm talking about is a real dialup BBS. The coolest thing about those was that most of those people lived right in your area. For all I know, the webservers I download from could be on the other side of the planet (that might explain some terrible download speeds). Also, no matter how cheezy the ANSI graphics looked at the time, they still required some really good skills. Now, just download Photoshop from warez.slashdot.org (Pater/Potter/CowboyNeal said it existed in one episode of GiS), and you can make all the nifty title grapgics you can. Blah, boring.
[Going off on a tangent]
In a way, I feel like I missed out on a lot of the BBS stuff. Just when I was really getting in to it, some of the boards I used were starting to become parttime ISPs. CompuServe was SOO cool because you could search an encyclopedia (WOW. find ANYTHING you WANT!). Then C$ gave everyone 5 hours of all services p/month. So we got on the web. Wow! We can download pictures and see them at the same time....woooaahhhh! Now, it's all glitzy. I want to go back to my roots.
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This could be a really interesting scenerio(sp?). They could pick, say, the top 30 people and announce their names. Then, say some company is looking for a web designer. So, they say "hey, these people know what they are doing and can save us bandwidth money! hire 'em!" Imagine how wonderful the web would be if there weren't so much useless crap being sent around.
On a slightly related note (in that BBSs were really cool-looking despite the constraints) I wish BBSs would come back. Sometimes, the web just seems too big for me. I know they won't. (At least, not like they were when I was in to them (right before they all started to die ): ))
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Thanks. I honestly didn't know what it meant. Although, later on in this thread, someone mentioned something about Australia's money compared to America's money. So, I would have understood had I waited a little while.
Oh well. Thank you for your explanation.
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A CD in oz
Oz? I'm sorry, but where exactly is Oz? I thought that was all a dream.
Also. Does the Lollipop Guild sell the MiniDiscs?
(if you're confused, these are in reference to The Wizard of Oz. That's what I thought of when I read that. Ha..ha..)
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The Geeks in Space interview was pretty close to zero content.
Agreed. And so it has been with the last three or four episodes. I enjoy the techie banter (is banter the word? I don't know. Rambling, maybe.) but these last couple shows have had a rather low signal:noise ratio(low signal:high noise).
Also, they used to scramble the cussing or watch their mouths. I don't think that, being the influential group that we/they are, I want people who are putting on a radio show, and saying that their typical geeks, to be using that language (ACK! I sound like an old-timer parent!) For example, in one of the earlier shows, I think it was Rob who said 'holy shit' (using asterisks is stupid, you can still tell what I'm saying) and they scrambled it. Okay, I will admit that scrambling 'shit' is a bit much (although, you could have just said 'holy crap' but, as the maid on the original "The Parent Trap" said, "What's done is done.") but, come on, Emmet says 'fuck' and it's left alone. Personally, I think there are something like levels of 'badness' with cuss words. 'Fuck', 'bitch', etc, are more 'bad' than 'shit', 'ass', 'damn', 'hell'. Besides, why use the F word when we have FSCK!?
[/me steps down from soap box]
Anyway, watch the language(scramble it out, use other words), and more signal, less noise.
Thanks!
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OTOH if it does come out like that at that price, I'm going to buy one and butcher it for components for my current (P200) PC.
At that price, I doubt they are going to be using standard parts. I'm willing to bet that making proprietary parts, while expensive because they have to design it themselves, would end up making things cheaper for us because we cannot use them in any way other than in this box. Of course, you could hack it, but that's illegal. Not like that's ever stopped people before...but still, it IS illegal. Unless you were designing a box to play the same games and the box ran Linux...then reverse engineering for purposes of interoperability might come in to play.
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"Linux is a free Unix-type operating system originally created by Linus Torvalds with the assistance of developers around the world. Linux is an independent POSIX implementation and includes true multitasking, virtual memory, shared libraries, demand loading, proper memory manegment, TCP/IP networking, and other features consistent with Unix-type systems. Developed under the GNU General Public License, the source code for Linux is freely available to everyone." - linux.org
"Linux is a free Unix-like operating system orinally created by Linus Torvalds with the assistance of many developers from around the world. Linux is POSIX certified implementation and includes true multitasking, virtual memory, shared libraries, demand loading, modern memory management, TCP/IP networking, and other features consistent with Unix systems. Published under the GNU General Public License, the source code for the Linux operating systems freely available to everyone." - ppclinux.apple.com
Where's the acknowledgement to linux.org?
Ah! But the best part is how he got in trouble. His science teacher asks the class who first thought of the concept of asexual reproduction. He mumbles something to Ally(I've forgotten her character...too lazy to look it up) and his teacher asks him what they are laughing about. He answers "Your wife?" That was great! Then he goes to the principals office and looks up his password. He later dials into the schools network(through his 300 baud coupler modem)
And I don't remember anything about absences. I do, however, remember him presenting his report card to his obliviously proud parents. Then he gives the girl an A and she falls in love with him. Bah!
I don't think Ferris was that much of a geek. He just didn't want to go to school. But I'm no authority on movies...