This was a low justice "dice" court. If you go to the pirate bay's website, they have a video broadcast up explaining more clearly what has happened. They are not going to jail because they can still move up to the higher courts for appeal. Once the highest court has made a decision, then it will be set in stone.
Near the end of the video, a gathering is mentioned on a website. Pirate Party, check the below link to see if there is anything in the external links listed there that you may want to participate in, or rally against.;)
Yeah, I don't see the problem. I don't know about other LUGs around the country, but my LUG holds an "install-fest" at a nearby school facility on the second Saturday of every month. Any Jane or Joe can walk in with a computer and get help installing Linux of just about any flavor, get help using the system, and/or fixing some random trouble they have gotten themselves into. No charge, they have been doing this for longer than I have been part of the LUG and I participate in it myself about 5-8 times a year, depending.
So yeah, I don't see what people are complaining about here, if you need Mac/Linux/Windows help/training, there is almost always a local user group willing to help you in these areas. Just because Microsoft does this once or twice a decade, its no reason to get excited, it's likely your own community has had similar support for a much longer time. Also, there is networking to be achieved at these sorts of social events which could land you a nice job.
I'm thinking people missed the sarcasm in my post.
I meant to bring attention to the fact that their particular "Speedlimit Plan" is about as clear as mud, COMPLETELY inaccurate and uninformative. To find actual rates, I ended up looking to some random thread on DSLreports.com. The fact that they say you need "Turbo with Powerboost" to "watch videos" is completely insane, mind-boggling, and ludicrous. It seems like some monkey of a manager randomly throwing fecal matter at multiple options on a wall was used in order to decide what was put up there for each category. Seriously, you could move any of the check marks around in that chart and it would still technically be accurate and useless to a potential customer. It completely disregards things like bandwidth, up speed, down speed, email accounts, amount of public ip addresses, or port-blocking policies. You know, the little important details?
2. Why do you care what they do with water they pay for? I would not care if they used bottled water to cool their data center. The water is not destroyed, in fact it is still drinkable water, just a little warmer.
If you've seen some of the sump basins that the waste water flows into, you wouldn't say that.:)
I have been using dvd::rip for a long time, and it really is a great tool. If you ever set up a cluster, you will get some serious encoding power! I currently have three machines working in parallel to encode my rip, works blazing fast.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. No matter what OS you use, you are bound to run into driver problems if you don't do your homework before hand. I know it is tedious, but it will save you from hassles like those. If you have existing hardware and you want to change your OS, you need to do your homework again before you even bother installing the new OS. If you can't find information about drivers for that OS, you are taking a risk installing it anyways and your results will never be guaranteed. If someone were to ask me to build them a new (windows based) computer, I would still build them to spec for Windows XP x64 edition. It is still the best performing windows platform for an average gamer.
It is very likely that any hardware supported by XP x64 will be supported under Windows 7 in the future. I let them know this before-hand, but also include the standard "no guarantees" caveat. I am not a fortune teller, but there is a bit of logic in thinking that any vendor providing 64-bit drivers for Windows XP will be on the bandwagon for Windows 7--unless the hardware is particularly old. At that point, you need to ask yourself why you are buying old hardware for a new system.
XP x64 is very stable and very fast if you keep this in mind, and I have more than a few friends who will vouch for that. As always, your experience may vary, but yeah, drivers can really, really, suck and I feel your pain there.
Unless you run Virtual Machines or play video games with large textures. WoW alone takes up about 2GiB of RAM on my machine when running for a good hour... not that I play WoW or anything... >_> Add firefox with 20 some plus tabs open, about 5 terminals to other machines and I am starting to run out of that nice 4GiB pool.
So what have we learned? Situations vary from person to person and the whole argument is relative to the user and their computing needs. One size does not fit all. Personally, I am glad we have multiple applications to choose from to suit the various needs of this diverse array. Vuze has its place, as does uTorrent, as does... btdownload-curses in screen (hehe, had to sneak that in somewhere).
You are correct, in a non-trivial environment that is the case. However, you brought up a Linux update issue relative to a Windows XP Pro update issue. I don't believe anything as mission critical as you are stating would be hosted on Windows XP Professional workstation, so I made a comparison to a similarly trivial Linux machine that hosted a backup to the actual live production machine. Truly, I should have actually made a comparison of a Linux workstation to make things fair but I don't have any highly out-dated versions of those laying around.
I did not assume "everything running on the old system will be supported under the newer release". This is why I read release notes for 5 different releases, and created a complete and full backup of the system which I could revert to in less than 2 minutes if shit hit the fan.
I apologize for the misunderstanding, I try to keep my posts kind of short, and end up not fully explaining myself.
From what I have been told, Military type defense practice "Defense in Depths". There are multiple layers of security. In other words, it is not enough to simply have encryption, or tight firewalls, or a secured facility with controlled access levels, or a private network. You can expect a good military controlled facility to have *all* of these things, and likely more.
Your best, and possibly only way into this sort of setup is through the users. However, I hear the military is researching a fix for this. I think they were calling it Skynet. It is supposed to remove the error prone human access from critical resources such as these with a more competent and logical artificial intelligence. Our salvation is nearly at hand!;D
Migrating to a different distro is typically much easier, and cheaper. I worked on a machine in 2008 that was a version of RHEL from 1999. I made a full system backup to a separate partition on the same disk, migrated it to CentOS, cleaned up dependencies, rebooted into a new kernel, then ran yum to update CentOS. After that, it was just a matter of time taken to download updates for each release up.
It really involves a bit of research, I spent about 2 hours reading release notes before actually starting the operation. Then spent another 2 hours downloading and installing updates (carefully watching for conflicts). I am not a kernel hacker and was able to accomplish this. Now that this is done, the updates and upgrades are much easier!
Well, personally I'd mod this whole thread funny. However, the AC has a point. Your post appears to belittle an entire group of people. Whether or not that was your intended goal doesn't really matter. I shouldn't be surprised if you get a "fuck you" here and there for it though.
By saying that Swedish doesn't have a concept of Habeus Corpus--the liberty to not be detained unlawfully--is insulting, I would think.
The Sapir-Whorf hypothesis doesn't mean you can't think outside of your language, but the translation may be rough. For example, if someone literally translated Habeus Corpus to english without understanding its meaning, you get "You have the body". "Of course I have my body! Are you on crack?", someone who understands both languages and cultures would translate the concept, and not just the words.
You should also take into consideration that the parent mentioned they have to "send" the computer to HQ. Meaning there is a shipping delay for going back and forth. Even with overnight shipping, the earliest you could get a computer to them would be three days. At my office, we would send them another computer the same day loaded with the standard stable image, so they would have a working machine the next day or day after (depending on when the machine got shipped out).
In my experience with Windows Vista, transfering many small files, be it from disk to disk or to network, results in transfer speeds of less than 100KiB/s. For instance, anytime I have to transfer a users Quark profile (full of thousands of small font stubs for files), I generally get less then 10KiB/s transfer speeds until it can get past the font stubs, at which point it shoots up to MiB/s speeds. Haven't tried this in Windows 7 Beta, but I probably will at some point. It would be nice to see that go away.
Seriously, half of the code in the Linux source resides in the drivers directory.. haha.
I think a lot of people don't realize that windows doesn't really support their hardware, the manufacturers do (sometimes). Linux drivers come compiled into the kernel or as modules if you like.
Just yesterday I was having an idle conversation with a co-worker who was mentioning that her printer doesn't work in Vista because the manufacturer doesn't provide Vista drivers. Here at the office, we have an old Xerox printer (docucolor12) that has no Vista driver, yet we have tons of vista machines that depend on this printer. Our SysAdmin used a driver for a DocuColor40 instead, which causes tons of issues for everyone.
Drivers will always be a problem in both Linux and Windows. Not Mac so much since they severely limit the hardware the OS is allowed to run on, meaning less support is needed (but also severely limiting your selection as a consumer, which may or may not be a good thing, depending on who you are). The best thing you can do, is be a smart consumer. Do your research, make sure your OS supports your hardware *before* you buy it or before you upgrade your OS.
I have been running Ubuntu as a desktop for a couple of years now. At work and at home. I am a gamer, and I have to say that for my purposes wine has been working superbly.
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At Home: Last night, just for curiosity sake, I mounted my old windows partition (the one riddled with tons of game, ssshhh). I was able to run Spore, Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, WoW (duh), Thief III: Deadly Shadows, Vampire: The masquerade, Kingdom O' Magic, NWN : Windows Client (I have the linux client as well).
I was able to run all of these games with no custom wine modifications (except for KOM, which has to run in dosbox on both Linux and Windows because of its age). Played each for a level, or stage, or what have you. Some of them were slower than if they had been running straight from Windows, but given the development rate of wine, I wouldn't be surprised to see this lessened by the end of the year. I can get over 30 fps in each game, some more than others obviously. For instance, if I were to boot into my Windows XP installation and run nwn I get less FPS than if I booted into linux and run nwn natively. I wish I could run more tests, but I don't have any other games that have a native windows *and* linux client.
Oh, did I mention I have desktop cube (among other things) enabled while I played all of these?
I am very, very, happy with my 3 year old desktop running Ubuntu. With the improvements in the 2.6.29 kernel, I think things will get even better once I have configured and compiled this (currently using stock ubuntu kernel).
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At work: I am using ubuntu on a full blown windows network. I'm talking exchange (no IMAP), SMB shares, etc (standard office environment). Evolution using OWA has a lot of problems, but it works. Changing your preferences a bit (Set Inline forwarding, Outlook style replies, etc) will make it emulate an Outlook install. It crashes pretty often, but thats probably because it has to interface with OWA rather than connecting directly with IMAP. Been running this setup for quite some time. I keep a file smb.credentials (rw-------)for easy rdesktop.
There are two mainstream expansions for this acronym I know of. "Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt" and "Fucked Up Disinformation". Substituting either of these into the GP's post produces a proper statement. Acronyms are often very ambiguous.
Using ubufox on intrepid, amd64, never had this issue with right-clicking. Tried right clicking all over the place on the page, and on different objects, but it performed as expected! I feel so left out.:(
I agree, no one goes crying foul when teenagers go through puberty and the hormones change them into stupid little whipper snappers that won't STAY THE HELL OFF MY LAWN!
Yeah, I don't really know. My only point was that copyright protection isn't the only concern of all software vendors. Sometimes that does make sense. But like you said, that would belong in the TOS (completely forgot about that).
Except for online video games where the companies have to tell users upfront that if they hack the game and get banned, they aren't getting money back for lost time on gaming.
Your online (or lack thereof) experience may vary!:)
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This was a low justice "dice" court. If you go to the pirate bay's website, they have a video broadcast up explaining more clearly what has happened. They are not going to jail because they can still move up to the higher courts for appeal. Once the highest court has made a decision, then it will be set in stone.
TPB Press conference video -> http://thepiratebay.org/special/2009epicwinanyhow.php
Near the end of the video, a gathering is mentioned on a website. Pirate Party, check the below link to see if there is anything in the external links listed there that you may want to participate in, or rally against. ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party#Official_sites.2C_documents
In short, The pirate bay crew is not in jail, and the true trial is FAR from over.
I'm curious how they handle charging for unsolicited traffic. If someone decides to flood my connection offline, will I be stuck with the bill?
Yeah, I don't see the problem. I don't know about other LUGs around the country, but my LUG holds an "install-fest" at a nearby school facility on the second Saturday of every month. Any Jane or Joe can walk in with a computer and get help installing Linux of just about any flavor, get help using the system, and/or fixing some random trouble they have gotten themselves into. No charge, they have been doing this for longer than I have been part of the LUG and I participate in it myself about 5-8 times a year, depending.
So yeah, I don't see what people are complaining about here, if you need Mac/Linux/Windows help/training, there is almost always a local user group willing to help you in these areas. Just because Microsoft does this once or twice a decade, its no reason to get excited, it's likely your own community has had similar support for a much longer time. Also, there is networking to be achieved at these sorts of social events which could land you a nice job.
I'm thinking people missed the sarcasm in my post.
I meant to bring attention to the fact that their particular "Speedlimit Plan" is about as clear as mud, COMPLETELY inaccurate and uninformative. To find actual rates, I ended up looking to some random thread on DSLreports.com. The fact that they say you need "Turbo with Powerboost" to "watch videos" is completely insane, mind-boggling, and ludicrous. It seems like some monkey of a manager randomly throwing fecal matter at multiple options on a wall was used in order to decide what was put up there for each category. Seriously, you could move any of the check marks around in that chart and it would still technically be accurate and useless to a potential customer. It completely disregards things like bandwidth, up speed, down speed, email accounts, amount of public ip addresses, or port-blocking policies. You know, the little important details?
I don't understand. What is not clear about this pricing plan?
http://www.timewarnercable.com/SanDiego/learn/hso/roadrunner/speedpricing.html
2. Why do you care what they do with water they pay for? I would not care if they used bottled water to cool their data center. The water is not destroyed, in fact it is still drinkable water, just a little warmer.
If you've seen some of the sump basins that the waste water flows into, you wouldn't say that. :)
I have seen this problem in dvd::rip before, however, you should give it a second chance and check out http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/doc/gui-gui_transcode.cipp#gui_tc_aud_targtrack which may guide you to properly discarding the other tracks when ripping your DVD.
I have been using dvd::rip for a long time, and it really is a great tool. If you ever set up a cluster, you will get some serious encoding power! I currently have three machines working in parallel to encode my rip, works blazing fast.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. No matter what OS you use, you are bound to run into driver problems if you don't do your homework before hand. I know it is tedious, but it will save you from hassles like those. If you have existing hardware and you want to change your OS, you need to do your homework again before you even bother installing the new OS. If you can't find information about drivers for that OS, you are taking a risk installing it anyways and your results will never be guaranteed. If someone were to ask me to build them a new (windows based) computer, I would still build them to spec for Windows XP x64 edition. It is still the best performing windows platform for an average gamer.
It is very likely that any hardware supported by XP x64 will be supported under Windows 7 in the future. I let them know this before-hand, but also include the standard "no guarantees" caveat. I am not a fortune teller, but there is a bit of logic in thinking that any vendor providing 64-bit drivers for Windows XP will be on the bandwagon for Windows 7--unless the hardware is particularly old. At that point, you need to ask yourself why you are buying old hardware for a new system.
XP x64 is very stable and very fast if you keep this in mind, and I have more than a few friends who will vouch for that. As always, your experience may vary, but yeah, drivers can really, really, suck and I feel your pain there.
Windows XP Pro, 64-bit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_xp_tablet_pc_edition#Windows_XP_Professional_x64_Edition
Unless you run Virtual Machines or play video games with large textures. WoW alone takes up about 2GiB of RAM on my machine when running for a good hour... not that I play WoW or anything... >_> Add firefox with 20 some plus tabs open, about 5 terminals to other machines and I am starting to run out of that nice 4GiB pool.
So what have we learned? Situations vary from person to person and the whole argument is relative to the user and their computing needs. One size does not fit all. Personally, I am glad we have multiple applications to choose from to suit the various needs of this diverse array. Vuze has its place, as does uTorrent, as does... btdownload-curses in screen (hehe, had to sneak that in somewhere).
You are correct, in a non-trivial environment that is the case. However, you brought up a Linux update issue relative to a Windows XP Pro update issue. I don't believe anything as mission critical as you are stating would be hosted on Windows XP Professional workstation, so I made a comparison to a similarly trivial Linux machine that hosted a backup to the actual live production machine. Truly, I should have actually made a comparison of a Linux workstation to make things fair but I don't have any highly out-dated versions of those laying around.
I did not assume "everything running on the old system will be supported under the newer release". This is why I read release notes for 5 different releases, and created a complete and full backup of the system which I could revert to in less than 2 minutes if shit hit the fan.
I apologize for the misunderstanding, I try to keep my posts kind of short, and end up not fully explaining myself.
From what I have been told, Military type defense practice "Defense in Depths". There are multiple layers of security. In other words, it is not enough to simply have encryption, or tight firewalls, or a secured facility with controlled access levels, or a private network. You can expect a good military controlled facility to have *all* of these things, and likely more.
Secured Facility, Private isolated network, secured switching, end-to-end IPSEC encryption, tightly controlled network resources based on Access Levels, unscrupulous automated monitoring.
Your best, and possibly only way into this sort of setup is through the users. However, I hear the military is researching a fix for this. I think they were calling it Skynet. It is supposed to remove the error prone human access from critical resources such as these with a more competent and logical artificial intelligence. Our salvation is nearly at hand! ;D
Migrating to a different distro is typically much easier, and cheaper. I worked on a machine in 2008 that was a version of RHEL from 1999. I made a full system backup to a separate partition on the same disk, migrated it to CentOS, cleaned up dependencies, rebooted into a new kernel, then ran yum to update CentOS. After that, it was just a matter of time taken to download updates for each release up.
It really involves a bit of research, I spent about 2 hours reading release notes before actually starting the operation. Then spent another 2 hours downloading and installing updates (carefully watching for conflicts). I am not a kernel hacker and was able to accomplish this. Now that this is done, the updates and upgrades are much easier!
Well, personally I'd mod this whole thread funny. However, the AC has a point. Your post appears to belittle an entire group of people. Whether or not that was your intended goal doesn't really matter. I shouldn't be surprised if you get a "fuck you" here and there for it though.
By saying that Swedish doesn't have a concept of Habeus Corpus--the liberty to not be detained unlawfully--is insulting, I would think.
The Sapir-Whorf hypothesis doesn't mean you can't think outside of your language, but the translation may be rough. For example, if someone literally translated Habeus Corpus to english without understanding its meaning, you get "You have the body". "Of course I have my body! Are you on crack?", someone who understands both languages and cultures would translate the concept, and not just the words.
You should also take into consideration that the parent mentioned they have to "send" the computer to HQ. Meaning there is a shipping delay for going back and forth. Even with overnight shipping, the earliest you could get a computer to them would be three days. At my office, we would send them another computer the same day loaded with the standard stable image, so they would have a working machine the next day or day after (depending on when the machine got shipped out).
Yeah, who in there right mind would ever do that?
In my experience with Windows Vista, transfering many small files, be it from disk to disk or to network, results in transfer speeds of less than 100KiB/s. For instance, anytime I have to transfer a users Quark profile (full of thousands of small font stubs for files), I generally get less then 10KiB/s transfer speeds until it can get past the font stubs, at which point it shoots up to MiB/s speeds. Haven't tried this in Windows 7 Beta, but I probably will at some point. It would be nice to see that go away.
Since when is making light of flamers an act of trolling?
You remind me of Mel Gibson when he was arrested for DUI. Another classic example of why drinking and posting is a bad idea.
Seriously, half of the code in the Linux source resides in the drivers directory.. haha.
I think a lot of people don't realize that windows doesn't really support their hardware, the manufacturers do (sometimes). Linux drivers come compiled into the kernel or as modules if you like.
Just yesterday I was having an idle conversation with a co-worker who was mentioning that her printer doesn't work in Vista because the manufacturer doesn't provide Vista drivers. Here at the office, we have an old Xerox printer (docucolor12) that has no Vista driver, yet we have tons of vista machines that depend on this printer. Our SysAdmin used a driver for a DocuColor40 instead, which causes tons of issues for everyone.
Drivers will always be a problem in both Linux and Windows. Not Mac so much since they severely limit the hardware the OS is allowed to run on, meaning less support is needed (but also severely limiting your selection as a consumer, which may or may not be a good thing, depending on who you are). The best thing you can do, is be a smart consumer. Do your research, make sure your OS supports your hardware *before* you buy it or before you upgrade your OS.
I have been running Ubuntu as a desktop for a couple of years now. At work and at home. I am a gamer, and I have to say that for my purposes wine has been working superbly.
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At Home:
Last night, just for curiosity sake, I mounted my old windows partition (the one riddled with tons of game, ssshhh). I was able to run Spore, Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, WoW (duh), Thief III: Deadly Shadows, Vampire: The masquerade, Kingdom O' Magic, NWN : Windows Client (I have the linux client as well).
I was able to run all of these games with no custom wine modifications (except for KOM, which has to run in dosbox on both Linux and Windows because of its age). Played each for a level, or stage, or what have you. Some of them were slower than if they had been running straight from Windows, but given the development rate of wine, I wouldn't be surprised to see this lessened by the end of the year. I can get over 30 fps in each game, some more than others obviously. For instance, if I were to boot into my Windows XP installation and run nwn I get less FPS than if I booted into linux and run nwn natively. I wish I could run more tests, but I don't have any other games that have a native windows *and* linux client.
Oh, did I mention I have desktop cube (among other things) enabled while I played all of these?
I am very, very, happy with my 3 year old desktop running Ubuntu. With the improvements in the 2.6.29 kernel, I think things will get even better once I have configured and compiled this (currently using stock ubuntu kernel).
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At work:
I am using ubuntu on a full blown windows network. I'm talking exchange (no IMAP), SMB shares, etc (standard office environment). Evolution using OWA has a lot of problems, but it works. Changing your preferences a bit (Set Inline forwarding, Outlook style replies, etc) will make it emulate an Outlook install. It crashes pretty often, but thats probably because it has to interface with OWA rather than connecting directly with IMAP. Been running this setup for quite some time. I keep a file smb.credentials (rw-------)for easy rdesktop.
As always, Your Mileage May Vary.
There are two mainstream expansions for this acronym I know of. "Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt" and "Fucked Up Disinformation". Substituting either of these into the GP's post produces a proper statement. Acronyms are often very ambiguous.
That said, don't be a dick.
Using ubufox on intrepid, amd64, never had this issue with right-clicking. Tried right clicking all over the place on the page, and on different objects, but it performed as expected! I feel so left out. :(
I agree, no one goes crying foul when teenagers go through puberty and the hormones change them into stupid little whipper snappers that won't STAY THE HELL OFF MY LAWN!
Yeah, I don't really know. My only point was that copyright protection isn't the only concern of all software vendors. Sometimes that does make sense. But like you said, that would belong in the TOS (completely forgot about that).
Except for online video games where the companies have to tell users upfront that if they hack the game and get banned, they aren't getting money back for lost time on gaming.
Your online (or lack thereof) experience may vary! :)