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Decent DVD-Ripping Solution For Linux?

supersloshy writes "I'm a user of Ubuntu Linux and I have been for a little while now. Recently I've been trying to copy DVDs onto a portable media player, but everything I've tried isn't working right. dvd::rip always gets the language mixed up (for example, when ripping 'Howl's Moving Castle,' one of the files it ripped to was in Japanese instead of English), Acidrip just plain isn't working for me (not recognizing a disc with spaces in its name, refusing to encode, etc.), Thoggen is having trouble with chapters (chapter 1 repeated twice for me once), and OGMRip has the audio out of sync. What I'm looking for is a reliable program to copy the movie into a single file with none of the audio or video glitches as mentioned above. Is there even such thing on Linux? If you can't think of a decent Linux-based solution, then a Windows one is fine as long as it works."

501 comments

  1. DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Try running DVDFab under WINE.

    1. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I recommend DVDshrink under WINE; very similar program, but I prefer that one myself.

    2. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      DVDshrink isn't supported anymore, though (I think the author got bought out by Macrovision and then the product was killed), while DVDFab still is.

      That doesn't matter most of the time (a DVD is a DVD... usually), but DVDFab is still being updated to keep up with new copy protection schemes.

    3. Re:DVDFab by BrokenHalo · · Score: 3, Insightful


      The submitter was asking for a Linux solution. I can't say I'm an obsessive purist, but if a piece of software needs to run on Wine, I'd rather just do without.

    4. Re:DVDFab by Belial6 · · Score: 5, Informative

      I say that the solution is a Linux solution since the Author supports the application running on Wine. If the Author supports it, then to me it is as much a Linux solution as any other app that uses external libraries.

    5. Re:DVDFab by theillien · · Score: 1

      Try running DVDFab under WINE.

      How is this offtopic?

    6. Re:DVDFab by Hal_Porter · · Score: 3, Informative

      Back when I did this I used DVDDecrypter to strip out protection that DVDShrink couldn't handle.

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    7. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why? I think the idea is that windows developers can build their software against a stable wine version and then you have software for linux as well. Google knows this and it seems to work well. There are many suitable solutions through wine, all functioning just fine.

    8. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use dvdshrink and dvd decrypter (both windows programmes) running under wine. I tried K9COPY, but I couldn't figure it out. No documentation, and it wasn't intuitive. DVDRIP didn't work for me either.

      This has been the best, most reliable (and easy) thing I have found. Good Luck.

      Wayno
      http://www.pkill-9.com

    9. Re:DVDFab by frieko · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I can't say I'm an obsessive purist

      Then what IS the reason? I run Linux exclusively, and I independently reached the same conclusion as AC: The best Linux DVD ripper is DVDFab.

      If DVDFab isn't a "Linux solution" because it requires WINE, then KDE isn't a Linux solution because it requires Qt.

    10. Re:DVDFab by glitch23 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      He also said a Windows solution would be sufficient as long as it works. But he wants a single file as output though so dvdshrink won't work.

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    11. Re:DVDFab by Ardrad · · Score: 5, Informative

      OR you could run a program that actually runs native under linux. Download handbrake. I believe the site is handbrake.fr (google to make sure) you also need VLC for dvd decryption, it works perfectly. I have even ripped Howl's flying castle. and many many more.

    12. Re:DVDFab by Miseph · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I realize that there are about a thousand other posts saying something similar, but...

      I think Wine might be the best thing that can possibly happen to Linux. The fact of the matter is that a small project just isn't likely to have the means of producing functional software on multiple platforms (at least not without sacrificing performance to go with Java or some alternative), and Wine makes it so that they don't have to by creating a target that will work equally on *nix and Windows. While I realize that similar projects exist to allow for Linux-based software to run in Windows, none of them are able to run as cleanly or transparently as Wine, and there just isn't as much demand for software going in that direction. Plus, as it gets better and more software actually performs better under Wine than Windows (I have seen it with a few things), it could become a wedge for FOSS to embrace extend and extinguish on Microsoft, and that's just funny.

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    13. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      erm... the submitter did ask for a windows solution:

      If you can't think of a decent Linux-based solution, then a Windows one is fine as long as it works.

    14. Re:DVDFab by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 5, Informative

      That could cause problems. VLC is crippled in the latest Ubuntu. While the VLC people blame Ubuntu on their mailing lists, it turns out that the FFMpeg library uses different names for some codes in their newer version -- and on the latest Ubunut (Intrepid), that version of VLC doesn't use the newer names.

      I was on both mailing lists for a while (VLC, FFMpeg) and the latter admitted to changing the names but did have all the codecs available under Ubunut. The VLC people claim some of those codecs are not available under Ubuntu (even with extra repositories), but they're there -- just with different names.

      Until Ubuntu gets this straightened out, anyone using Intrepid or following versions will have trouble with video codecs, including ripping DVDs and, in my case, trying to read files from my HD camcorder that were easily readable in Ubuntu Hardy, but which nobody was quite sure how to read (or what settings to use) in Intrepid.

      After wasting several days of my life on this issue, I gave up, ordered an iMac, and since switching, have spent more time doing what I want on my computer and less time at the computer overall. I no longer have to spend time trying to make sure the tools taht are supposed to help me are set up properly or if I'm using the right settings.

      It's nice to have more time for real life than to be spending time adjusting my tools.

    15. Re:DVDFab by digitalchinky · · Score: 4, Interesting

      QT doesn't need a whole bunch of wrappers and libraries to fake a windows environment, DVDFab does. End of story.

      What is it with DVD ripping software anyway, the vast majority of it assumes people are frigging experts at bit rates, codecs, containers, video formats, audio formats, and on and on. Most of it also lets you blindly click away at a hundred options no matter how borked and demented the logic is. While an exceedingly small number of applications might actually tell you your choices wont work out so good, the vast majority of it simply goes off and does the stupid and you only find out it wont work after it's done.

    16. Re:DVDFab by walshy007 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think Wine might be the best thing that can possibly happen to Linux. The fact of the matter is that a small project just isn't likely to have the means of producing functional software on multiple platforms (at least not without sacrificing performance to go with Java or some alternative),

      Being cross platform on the same architecture really isn't that difficult, so long as you only use libraries that are also supported on those different platforms. It's essentially a design consideration, if you plan things right being cross platform is a case of simply another compilation.

    17. Re:DVDFab by DogDaySunrise · · Score: 1

      Haven't used it in a while, but I'm sure DVDShrink can be set to compile a single .iso file and clear the intermediate output files at the end of the process.

    18. Re:DVDFab by Greyor · · Score: 1

      Or you could go to GetDeb and download their cutting-edge VLC packages, which haven't caused any problems for me at least.

    19. Re:DVDFab by pjt33 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      at least not without sacrificing performance to go with Java

      The 1990s called: they want their benchmarks back.

    20. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      After wasting several days of my life on this issue, I gave up, ordered an iMac, and since switching, have spent more time doing what I want on my computer and less time at the computer overall. I no longer have to spend time trying to make sure the tools taht are supposed to help me are set up properly or if I'm using the right settings.

      You know, you could've compiled ffmpeg and vlc if it was that much of an issue. Surely, if you've given up several days of your life, downloading the source and opening the install file should've occurred to you.

      Yes, the packages may be broken, and yes they shouldn't be. But what have you done in several days that couldn't be solved with ye olde ./configure && make && make install ?

      Enjoy your mac.

    21. Re:DVDFab by tsa · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's Linux for you and the reason why I switched to a Mac. Linux is a fantastic OS but many of the applications that run on it are just not mature enough to be used by laymen.

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    22. Re:DVDFab by Rue+C+Koegel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      DVDFab is a newer DVDDecrypter with more features.

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    23. Re:DVDFab by supernova_hq · · Score: 1

      Considering he mentioned transfering it to a portable device, I think by "single file" he meant "single video file".

      I can take anything and put it in an iso, but turning a DVD into a single video file is not nearly as easy.

    24. Re:DVDFab by Yfrwlf · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If the issue was an ffmpeg or VLC issue, then that would qualify as a dependency issue. The newer VLC should have required the newer ffmpeg. If, however, it was an Ubuntu packaging naming issue, I completely blame proprietary Linux packaging for that.

      This is one of the many reasons Linux packaging standards are needed. Distros should be offering the same exact software that you can get easily online. If they want to modify a program, they need to change it's name, but if it's simply distros having different package names then they need to fucking stop it. Metapackages are fine, but fucking around with software names just so you can make your repository be proprietary is wrong. Until Linux users are really free to choose what software to install no matter their distro, and the focus is shifted to making the default software work correctly for all Linux users, you sadly will have more freedom in some ways on a proprietary OS.

      Thank you distro wars for giving everyone less freedom and making Linux suck more.

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    25. Re:DVDFab by Cylix · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm afraid they are all very relevant option once you understand them.

      The reason some configurations work over others falls back to compatibility. For instance, it's perfectly reasonable to use wav, mpg or ac3 for the audio encoding, but not all players actually support wav.

      Another interesting tidbit is the support for analogue closed caption. This relies on the dvd player decoding a cc file and generating the captions on the fly. A very large chunk of players do not implement this despite it being part of the specification. Mastering or re-mastering a dvd has many options which can sometimes be a bit intricate.

      With that said, MythTv's built in ripper is fairly simplified. Select the chapter, audio and quality and then boom. (Though I have varying degrees of success at times)

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    26. Re:DVDFab by sanyacid · · Score: 1

      Well, at least he provided a solution which works on Linux, while you provided none. If you would just do without - that's probably fine with you, though, most people use their computers just to get things done, and for them the solution that gives best results is often the best solution.

    27. Re:DVDFab by centuren · · Score: 1

      k9copy has no documentation and isn't intuitive? Really? Did you try searching Google for "k9copy tutorial"?

      There are plenty of highly detailed guides.

    28. Re:DVDFab by DogDaySunrise · · Score: 1

      True - a week of early shifts has narrowed my sense of context down to only the post I was replying to... :o(

    29. Re:DVDFab by mikechant · · Score: 1

      I'm sure there's other stuff you didn't mention but you give the impression that hardy was working fine for you; intrepid gave serious problems - so you bought an iMac. Errr... why didn't you just stick with hardy?

    30. Re:DVDFab by Computershack · · Score: 0, Redundant

      I'm afraid they are all very relevant option once you understand them.

      In the meantime, while you're still figuring out how to configure your Linux ripping program the Windows user has installed one, ripped the DVD, transferred it to their iPod/whatever and watched it.

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    31. Re:DVDFab by Shadowmist · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's probably likely that the problems he was having in this case was the tipping point of a long series of personal annoyances. What this story seems to illustrate is that Linux is still in the rough Harley Davidson stage, in that almost every Harley Davidson owner I ever met was a fairly decent mechanic as the cycles are famous for requiring a lot of mechanic knowhow. One respondent's answer in brief was "compile your own". While this works for a certain group of user, there are a lot of users which it won't. With Mac OSX now having a lot more common with the 'Nix OS's and featuring software which simply "just works". I can understand why he finally made the switch. (OS X even has it's own versions of WINE working for it now that it's main architecture is Intel based.) and OS X has shed most of what made the original Mac OS such a hostile environment to develop for, as seen from the explosion open source code for the platform. "Stuff just works" is a good benchmark on the maturity of an OS as a user system for other than "Harley Davidson home mechanics." OS X is a good example of that benchmark as a UNIX type OS you can give your grandmother to use. Linux's progress towards that goal has slowed down considerably if not stopped altogether.

    32. Re:DVDFab by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Metapackages are fine, but fucking around with software names just so you can make your repository be proprietary is wrong.

      There are many reasons why packages aren't compatible across distros, but that is not one of them. The issue is dependencies, dependencies, dependencies. Ffmpeg might be big, but when you upgrade something like mplayer it tends to drag with it a dozen or more video/audio/subtitle/container/wtf packages. Through my own screwing around and matching of repositories I've managed to get newer versions of a media player installed, but that isn't compatible with any of the plugins and then it becomes very useless. More backports would be what I want, so that I could upgrade one application without upgrading my own distro or messing around with a ton of source packages.

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    33. Re:DVDFab by kno3 · · Score: 1

      Ha, yes, that's like saying "Well if you want a single file why don't you just RAR all the output files together once its done!" I don't think he wanted any old archive of a load of files, I think he wants a video file.

    34. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I second that - especially if you're trying to rip DVDs that have advanced copy protection. There's no tool on linux that will rip DVDs with ARccOS for instance - except DVDFab under Wine.

    35. Re:DVDFab by kno3 · · Score: 1

      You should listen to some of Ryan Gordon's podcasts (really do, he is very knowledgeable of this subject). Wine will never be able to successfully emulate a windows platform. It is so far behind, and Windows is accelerating off into the distance and Wine is getting further and further behind. Windows is going 64bit, while Wine is still struggling to get many 16bit elements to function properly. Also, if you setup a decent team of coders (it does not have to be big, just a good mix) then it is very simple to get a program to run natively of Windows, mac and linux. Wine is just not the way forward, and it can never be. The only way forward is to entice companies to start coding more native cross platform apps (and this is happening, many small app companies have started releasing linux software, games developers are doing the same) and this can be done.

    36. Re:DVDFab by Frnknstn · · Score: 1

      [blockquote]End of story.[/blockquote]

      Oooh, now you done got me mad...

      Qt IS A FUCKING BUNCH OF WRAPPERS AND LIBRARIES, and lo, it can 'fake' a WINDOWING EVIRONMENT. Hence its use in KDE, the fucking acronym for The K DESKTOP ENVIRONMENT. Perhaps if the GP had gone one chain up the dependency ladder and used 'Konqueror' and 'KDE' instead of 'KDE' and 'Qt', his point would have been clearer.

      I apologise for the shouting, but sometimes I just want to be heard.

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    37. Re:DVDFab by hairyfeet · · Score: 2, Informative

      What it sounds like he wants is Fair Use Wizrd. if he buys the full version it rips to iPod, cell phones, etc otherwise it rips to DivX.

      Does it run in Wine? Hell if I know, you Linux guys can answer that. but it sounds like he wants a butt simple way to rip to a single video file in the format of his choice. Fair Use Wizard does EXACTLY that. But if you are ripping DVDs and want something butt simple, spend the money as Fair Use Wizard is worth it. DVDFab and the other can be complex or not convert to the format you need. As you can see here Fair Use Wizard converts to pretty much anything and it has the simplest layout I have ever seen. It is what I recommend to my customers when they ask about converting DVDs. So try it, they have a light version for free that converts DVD to DivX that will let you see if it is right for you. But from the sounds of it this is EXACTLY the tool you are looking for.

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    38. Re:DVDFab by frieko · · Score: 1

      Qt is a "wrapper and library"! I don't see any syscalls in my Amarok source. You speak of the "windows environment" like it has some divine spark of life that can only be truly achieved by Microsoft, and merely approximated by anybody else. In fact, it's just a library that wraps NT.

    39. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > It's nice to have more time for real life than to be spending time adjusting my tools.

      Man, I don't know about you, but I spend a good deal of my life having fun "adjusting my tool".

    40. Re:DVDFab by myz24 · · Score: 0

      Why is this funny? It's true. How many CD/DVD burning apps have come out in the past 5 years but we still don't have a DVD ripping tool worth a damn?

    41. Re:DVDFab by NotBornYesterday · · Score: 5, Funny

      "95% of all Harley Davidsons ever made are still on the road.
      The other 5% made it home okay."

      - found floating around somewhere on the interwebs

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    42. Re:DVDFab by cayenne8 · · Score: 2, Informative
      Ripping is simple.

      dvdbackup -> mkisofs -> growisofs

      Rip them...create .iso image.....burn to a dvd.

      With dual sided dvd's so cheap these days, why bother 'shrinking' the dvd? I keep dual layer and single layer blanks around. I look at the size of the .iso image, and choose the size disk I need.

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    43. Re:DVDFab by tepples · · Score: 1

      With dual sided dvd's so cheap these days, why bother 'shrinking' the dvd?

      Laptop with 1-layer burner perhaps, and not willing to pay the USB premium for a burner?

    44. Re:DVDFab by tepples · · Score: 1

      If DVDFab isn't a "Linux solution" because it requires WINE, then KDE isn't a Linux solution because it requires Qt.

      Qt runs on ISAs other than i686. Wine doesn't. This will become especially important once machines with ARM Cortex CPUs come to market in 2009. Or would you claim that any computer that 1. is large enough to have an optical drive and 2. doesn't require all binaries to be digitally signed is necessarily x86?

    45. Re:DVDFab by Uzik2 · · Score: 1

      A lot of the software authors cause this. They never distribute the full dependencies they built and tested their code against and don't build in version requirements. I've talked about this and been universally ignored. I just want the **** to work. I could care less about how 'cool' their code is.

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    46. Re:DVDFab by jedidiah · · Score: 2, Informative

      Alternatively:

            To extract content: mencoder -dumpstream

            To compress content: mencoder or handbrake

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    47. Re:DVDFab by Yfrwlf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But why are dependencies a problem? The reason is because *those* packages are proprietary. If a package used a universal naming convention, like the actual names of the programs the developers named them, then a program could simply say "I want this, this, and this" and the manager would know what the hell they wanted and install it all easily. Distro repositories should be nothing more than mirrors of sourceforge basically, for the packages they wanted to support, but it should be able to hook into the outside world to pull dependencies when users wanted/needed those. If I wanted, I shouldn't HAVE to install Firefox updates from distro repos, I should be able to get system updates directly from Mozilla. Bad example as Mozilla actually does have a Ubuntu repo, but that's proprietary, I want universal formats so that ALL Linux users can easily install, remove, and update any and all Linux software they want.

      A Mandriva user shouldn't have to install Ubuntu just because OMGAwsomeGame version 5.125.53.325 that they want or need for some reason isn't in Mandriva's repos. These distro companies aren't caring about this problem because they want the size of their repos to *cause* this to happen, for users to switch just for their access to software. That barrier is opposed to Linux's principals and to truly free software. Not to mention, you know, it makes Linux *suck*. Unless you use Ubuntu. But even then, things still suck, and user's freedoms are very much lessened.

      And of course again, yeah yeah, you can compile, but only like 5% of users really care about that, and they're mostly developers. Linux needs more features, and this is a big one. Software packages "just work" on Windows and OS X, Linux users can and should have that same freedom, and there is no reason whatsoever that it's not possible and can't be solved through better programming and standards.

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    48. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh blow me. I hope you know more about computers than you do about HD.

    49. Re:DVDFab by jotok · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There are a lot of new Linux users who are comfortable enough with Ubuntu, and even dicking around in bash, but who are not comfortable compiling stuff from source because it's not immediately clear how you go about removing, upgrading, etc. without the package manager. Yum and Apt are a hell of a crutch.

      Right now I'm in dep hell on a CENTOS box because there is no slick way to install php 5.2 from any of the repos. So I know I will have to track down all the dependencies myself (two of the seven have their own deps...le sigh) which I'm just dreading. And then what happens when I need a new version of PHP? I have to jump through these hoops again?

    50. Re:DVDFab by robosmurf · · Score: 1

      There is no need to emulate a particular windows platform, you just need a stable win32 library for compatibility.

      It's pretty easy to write windows software that will work on any windows version from 2000. It's not much harder to support 95+. The basics of win32 have been stable for years.

      The 16bit elements are now irrelevant (unless you want to run some very old windows games). Even Microsoft doesn't support 16bit software on the 64bit Windows versions.

    51. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      QT is a whole bunch of wrappers and libraries to fake a QT environment, DVDFab needs wine. End of story.

      Fixed that for you?

    52. Re:DVDFab by Daniel_Staal · · Score: 1

      at least not without sacrificing performance to go with Java

      The 1990s called: they want their benchmarks back.

      Maybe he meant developer performance.

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    53. Re:DVDFab by s0l1dsnak3123 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ImgBurn is another (fork?) of dvddecrypter that is still developed by the original guy (lightningUK! I think he was called...) But seriously, use a Linux native solution. Actually supporting a windows program is like saying "hey, I LIKE windows".

    54. Re:DVDFab by Tynam · · Score: 1
      Yfrwlf is absolutely right here. One of the huge things holding linux back is how much work it is to just get the software you want running with your favourite distro.

      If we ever want to bring the Windows users over into Infinite Fun Space, we have to get over this.

      Somebody mod parent up, please.

    55. Re:DVDFab by Tikkun · · Score: 1

      Ubuntu offers support huge amount of software, but handbrake currently isn't one of them. Software doesn't naturally "just work", you have to have programmers and QA staff work to support something, so that it does work.

      Personally I'm quite comfortable with CMMI. I find that this is a good solution for a lot of bleeding edge software (using another distro that focuses on new software like Arch Linux is usually more productive, but sometimes you have to compile from the latest source code no matter what). If you are not comfortable with it, you'll have to wait for official support from your distro of choice, or for a third party to step in and do it, or pay someone to do so.

      Just like any other OS.

    56. Re:DVDFab by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "Laptop with 1-layer burner perhaps, and not willing to pay the USB premium for a burner?"

      Are there that many people with only ONE computer...that is a laptop?

      Geez...even people that aren't geeky that I know have at least 2 computers around the house, one is a desktop. I know I'm a bit unusual, in that I have on average, more than one computer per room of the house.

      But really, don't even most laptops today come with dual layer dvd burners? And a standalone burner is only like $100 these days.....hardly an impediment to anyone buying one.

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    57. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The fact I use Linux exclusively and ride a Harley as my primary mode of transportation seems to make a more sense now.
      Hooray tinkering!

    58. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Insightful? A clueless post like this?

    59. Re:DVDFab by frieko · · Score: 1

      Yes, that will be disappointing. But that's an open vs closed source problem, not specifically a Wine problem. Google Earth is Qt but you're still gonna be waiting for Google to release an ARM binary. And yes, as a more practical issue, I would expect the sort of things that one tends to use wine for just coincidentally happen to not fit the netbook paradigm. I for one use it for LTSpice and DVDFab and that's about it. Don't get me wrong, as a diehard Linux fanboy I do much prefer native solutions.

      That brings up an interesting sidenote though: I wonder how hard it would be to port winelib to ARM? It is all userspace after all.

    60. Re:DVDFab by Wrath0fb0b · · Score: 3, Interesting

      QT doesn't need a whole bunch of wrappers and libraries to fake a windows environment, DVDFab does. End of story.

      You are comparing things on two different levels of abstraction here. QT is a set of libraries that provides a certain API on which applications are built. WINE is a set of libraries that provides a different API on which some other applications are built. KDE requires the QT APIs in the same fashion that DVDFab requires the WIN32 APIS. There is no principled difference between running an application that's NIX-QT-KDE and one that's NIX-WIN32-DVDFab.

      You wouldn't say that QT creates a "fake" QT environment for applications like KDE so why would you say that WINE provides a "fake" WIN32 environment for DVDFab? The application doesn't care what's underneath the API that it sees, it only wants function calls to result in the documented behavior and is agnostic about the rest. I write multi-platform OpenGL and OpenSSL code, when I call SSL_check_private_key(ssl_ptr) or gluNewQuadric() , I don't care what lower-level function is called. In fact, I'm quite happy that some kind soul has decided to hide as much of that as possible from me so I can focus on getting my actual work done.

      TL;DR version: It would be a wonderful world if all the OSs have compatibility layers for all the APIs (JVM/JNI, Mono/CLR, GTK, QT, WIN32, Carbon, Cocoa ...) so the application devs would write in whatever they want and computer users could run in whatever they want -- because that's what computers are for: not doing "computer stuff" but using computers to accomplish things.

      PS: Saying end of story does not, contrary to popular belief, actually mean that it's the end of the story. In fact, most of the time it signals that the writer has decided that she doesn't need to logically justify her statements and is a good idea to subject them to more scrutiny.

    61. Re:DVDFab by DrgnDancer · · Score: 1

      Submitter was willing to accept a pure Windows solution in a pinch (read the last line), I'm thinking a developer support WINE version would be acceptable for him.

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    62. Re:DVDFab by MLS100 · · Score: 1

      That is the adventure of Linux man! You haven't lived until you've rebuilt library dependencies from glibc up for an app update only to find your glibc update broke something else and had to do it all over again for another app.

      I like to think of it like I'm flying around a big circuit board with lasers shooting every which way and giant columns I have to constantly fix the structural integrity of as I go.

    63. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WINE crashes my desktop on CentOS 5.2 here at least. x86_64

    64. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      You seem to be a bit confused, as you are claiming that somehow feature-completeness is a sign of lack of maturity. If a tool not only works perfectly but also offers you countless ways to configure the end result then it is a sign of maturity, not lack thereof.

      The problem you describe may be seen as learning resistance by the end user. Nonetheless, there are also other applications available that fulfil the needs of those users such as front-ends. Applications such as k3b, apt, synaptic or any network managers are there to make things easier for some users. The great thing about that class of applications is that they are based on those tools you accused of being immature. The front-ends rely on those applications and perform nothing more besides user interface tasks, enabling any user to use any application while shielded from the gory details.

      Try to do that on a Mac or Windows.

    65. Re:DVDFab by MrPhilby · · Score: 1

      If only more coders and software architects would understand this basic tenet, for some of us the machine is a tool, not the artwork/creation/project itself. This is also the same reason people switch back to XP from Vista etc

    66. Re:DVDFab by CharlieHedlin · · Score: 1

      I haven't tried yet, but some run wine on Playstation 3's using Qemu for the processor emulation.

    67. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the best is k9copy and k3b. They work wonderfully and you don't need to emulate some windows program in linux. They are both native programs that work really really well. K9copy can rip it to any format including iso / avi, and it basically just works and is very easy to use.

      With k3b... need I say more?

    68. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yfrwlf (998822) says:
      "Thank you distro wars for giving everyone less freedom and making Linux suck more."

      Well you have a choice between rolling your own, and between many distros. Try that with BSD-encumbered OS X or with XP or Vista.

      The power of that choice brings with it the responsibility of either accepting it or improving it. It seems to me you are good at neither, and belong in the land of No Choice. PS watch the licence text on all those products; you can become so encumbered as to make it a lot of work for nothing in terms of distribution of your work. And if any of them don't meet your expectations, tough.

    69. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use DVD shrink to produce single file output all the time. just check your options during backup.

    70. Re:DVDFab by Golddess · · Score: 1

      With dual sided dvd's so cheap these days, why bother 'shrinking' the dvd?

      Because one has no intention of burning it off, one just wants to dump it to ones computer? Although this raises an interesting point. What costs less, ripping the disc and compressing the contents, or buying more HDDs to store full DVD discs? Will you use less electricity powering the extra HDDs and playing back an MPEG2 (iirc, DVD is MPEG2?) than you would use re-encoding the DVDs into a more compressed format and playing back that?

      To get back to the original question, I don't remember off the top of my head what I use to rip the disc, and this is a Windows solution I am providing, but MediaCoder works well for me, although as I discovered the hard way, depending on the codecs chosen the audio could be out of sync with the video after compression.

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    71. Re:DVDFab by godefroi · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's funny. People like to talk about "DLL Hell" on windows, but they fixed it over there, everyone just keeps a copy of everything they need in their folder.

      Linux, on the other hand, has "lib Hell" where you have to be really careful about upgrading an app because it might bust another one, and maybe your old app won't compile right against the new lib, and maybe the dependency tree is 12 deep, and maybe your package manager works right, or maybe not. It's much more fun this way.

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    72. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      After wasting several days of my life on this issue, I gave up, ordered an iMac, and since switching, have spent more time doing what I want on my computer and less time at the computer overall.

      Gee, if I had that sort of money just sitting in the petty cash, I wouldn't be bothered with illegally copying DVDs in the first place. WHY DO YOU THINK PEOPLE COPY DVDs? Oh yes, "backup copies". Like I risk wearing out my Oceans 11 DVD by playing it every day. Jeez.

      As for the original poster, I've got by reasonably well with K9Copy. YMMV.

    73. Re:DVDFab by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      I've ripped my DVD's to MP4 format for use on my home media server (and AppleTV). I can stream these over 802.11n to machines around the house. Also, MP4's take up less room than DVD iso's. Approaching 400 movies now.

      Really need to come up with a decent storage/backup solution for 2TB of data files (only using 800 MB currently but if laying out cash, gotta' plan for future growth).

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    74. Re:DVDFab by windsurfer619 · · Score: 1

      Huh. Try connecting to a bluetooth network. Then you'll be wishing you had Blueman back ;)

    75. Re:DVDFab by Gilmoure · · Score: 2, Informative

      Latest version of Handbrake (.0.9.3) has all the options but it also has a decent selection of presets. So far, haven't had any real problems with it, with almost 400 DVD's ripped. Only that Neemo movie was a little tricky. Had to pick the correct track to rip, to get audio to sync.

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    76. Re:DVDFab by Jurily · · Score: 1

      If the Author supports it, then to me it is as much a Linux solution as any other app that uses external libraries.

      No, it's still a workaround. You need at least ELF binaries for a "Linux solution".

    77. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This has nothing to do with Linux per se (okay, most Linux distros do suffer from a similar mindset). This is pretty much universal in any video conversion software I've seen on any platform. There are some small inroads being made with intelligible presets in some apps, but most of them really assume a high level of knowledge about low level video conversion concerns.

    78. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      jotok: Les RPM de Remi are all you need. Remi is a dude.

    79. Re:DVDFab by PRMan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Are you talking about DVD Rippers or FFMPEG and Mencoder?

      It took me 3 days to find a set of parameters that would let me process the weird Quicktime format from my digital camera and be able to play it on my PS3 and DirecTV DVR.

      Device profiles, anyone?

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    80. Re:DVDFab by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Just for beer and skittles, I loaded Red Hat Enterprise 5 on VMWare, on my Mac and then Handbrake and VLC on Linux. Was able to burn a DVD. It ripped ok, but was just a few frames/sec slower than ripping same DVD via Handbrake on Mac side of things. Cool!

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    81. Re:DVDFab by an+unsound+mind · · Score: 1

      Handbrake has a PSP preset problem with the latest PSP firmware.

      In general, I wouldn't use it for consoles without double-checking.

    82. Re:DVDFab by metamatic · · Score: 1

      There are a lot of new Linux users who are comfortable enough with Ubuntu, and even dicking around in bash, but who are not comfortable compiling stuff from source because it's not immediately clear how you go about removing, upgrading, etc. without the package manager. Yum and Apt are a hell of a crutch.

      Yeah, if only there were some APT-like tool for installing source code and necessary dependencies, and then compiling the source into a .deb package.

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    83. Re:DVDFab by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Waht? No glowing frisbees?

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    84. Re:DVDFab by Dextrously · · Score: 1

      I have seen this problem in dvd::rip before, however, you should give it a second chance and check out http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/doc/gui-gui_transcode.cipp#gui_tc_aud_targtrack which may guide you to properly discarding the other tracks when ripping your DVD.

      I have been using dvd::rip for a long time, and it really is a great tool. If you ever set up a cluster, you will get some serious encoding power! I currently have three machines working in parallel to encode my rip, works blazing fast.

    85. Re:DVDFab by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      "Why don't the British build computers?

      They haven't found a way to make them leak oil."

      Found on Brit Bike list.

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    86. Re:DVDFab by b0bby · · Score: 1

      With dual sided dvd's so cheap these days, why bother 'shrinking' the dvd?

      Because he's not looking to copy the disc, he's "trying to copy DVDs onto a portable media player" ie rip & convert. It's a much trickier problem; I've had pretty good luck luck with handbrake on XP, but it's never as simple as just making an iso would be.

    87. Re:DVDFab by Mix+Master+Nixon · · Score: 1

      Dual-layer blanks have crappy compatibility with many stand-alone players. A shrunk DVD might lose a bit of quality when it's compressed down to one-layer size, but it least it can generally be depended on to play. DL blanks, not so much.

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    88. Re:DVDFab by PitaBred · · Score: 1

      You don't need VLC for decryption with Handbrake. You only need to install the libdvdcss2 library.

    89. Re:DVDFab by kiatoa · · Score: 1

      Wine is the elf binary part. The rest is libraries. The issue I see with DVDFab is it costs $$. Some of us don't have much of that stuff these days.

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    90. Re:DVDFab by goltzc · · Score: 1

      Not really. It's more like saying hey I like this app, but it only runs on windows.

      See the gamers argument for not switching to Linux

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    91. Re:DVDFab by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      That's the reason most people in this thread are recommending Handbrake, because at least they *slightly* understand the KISS principle. Sadly, the newer versions of it are an order of magnitude more complex than the older ones-- I still keep Handbrake 0.8 on my media server Mac G5, just because it fucking works, the first try, every time.

      The newer versions are a lot more complicated on all platforms, and the Windows version is just crummy over-all. It's actually tragic that the only DVD ripper that didn't suck is actually sucking more as time goes on-- I agree with you, what's up with this particular software ecosystem? It's not just poor usability, it's closer to user hostility.

      Converting a .AVI file into a .MP4 file using, say, VLC is an exercise in trial-and-error frustration, and moronic UI bugs. (Also related to having a space in the filename-- WTF, developers? Do you even bother to even slightly QA your products at all?) Why does VLC bother to let me mix audio and video formats that won't work? Why does it write out an entire obviously-wrong file instead of telling me in the first 10 seconds, "hey this file has only audio and no video, it's probably wrong!"

      Or put a slightly different way: if your GUI ripping application includes the word "mux" *anywhere* in the UI, you've failed.

    92. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "95% of all Harley Davidsons ever made are still on the road. The other 5% made it home okay."

      "Wartburg - the most wide-spread car in the German roads!"

    93. Re:DVDFab by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      Latest version of Handbrake (.0.9.3) has all the options but it also has a decent selection of presets. So far, haven't had any real problems with it, with almost 400 DVD's ripped. Only that Neemo movie was a little tricky. Had to pick the correct track to rip, to get audio to sync.

      Really? I have had very little luck with Handbrake... I don't know, maybe I'm doing something wrong...

      Basically the only rip-and-encode I've successfully done with Handbrake was to Matroska format with H264 encoding. All other encodings I've tried have resulted in files that won't even play in VLC or mplayer. But half the point of trying to use Handbrake was to take MKV files (often with soft-subtitles) and re-encode them in something my less-powerful computers could handle...

      I also tried the PS3 preset - sadly, it didn't produce a file I could play on my PS3.

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    94. Re:DVDFab by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Bullcrap. While being able to muck around with all that crap is certainly useful, I don't think anybody would deny that, the *real* problem is that the vast majority of video applications don't have sensible defaults.

      That is to say, if you put in a DVD and hit "rip", it'll either spit out a useless file (all-black video, no video only audio, no audio only video, video and audio out-of-sync) or, even worse, you can't even hit "rip" until you've already fiddled with 3 dozen options you don't give a flying shit about.

      Look, all iPods are the fucking same. All Zunes are the fucking same. Just have ONE BUTTON that says "Rip to iPod". Period. The reason Handbrake is popular is because that's what it did back when it was a Mac program: you put in your DVD, you hit "Rip", and it worked every time, with every disk.

      It's obviously possible, Handbrake *did it*! Years ago!

      (Stupidly, Handbrake now almost never works, especially on Windows. They got their working program and made it into shit. Meaning there's now *no* simple way to just insert a disk, and hit a button that says "put this on my iPod.")

    95. Re:DVDFab by kno3 · · Score: 1

      Much of windows is still 16bit. Even Vista64 has many 16bit parts of the OS. XP still has 8bit in it!

    96. Re:DVDFab by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      I've only used Handbrake for DVD to MP4. Never tried to convert another format/container.

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    97. Re:DVDFab by s0l1dsnak3123 · · Score: 1

      There is an ancient Greek word "sarkazo" which literally means "to tear flesh". I was using this word to bring forward my own opinion in a less aggressive way.

      Wikipedia (god bless) states here that understanding in subtle sarcasm are known to be lacking in "in people with brain damage, dementia and autism, and this perception has been located by MRI in the right parahippocampal gyrus."

      My point? You are lacking in the right parahippocampal gyrus, my friend.

    98. Re:DVDFab by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      Stupidly, Handbrake now almost never works, especially on Windows.

      Would you care to elucidate? The reason why I ask is because I put dvd ripping on the back burner about a year ago (having failed to get any of the options I tried - which did not include handbrake - to work nicely on Linux), but a number of posters below seem to highly recommend it.

    99. Re:DVDFab by gknoy · · Score: 1

      What is it with DVD ripping software anyway, the vast majority of it assumes people are frigging experts at bit rates, codecs, containers, video formats, audio formats, and on and on.

      Many immature or domain-specific software tools assume that the user is an expert within that domain. Many engineering or technical analysis codes assume this. We tend in this direction because:

      - The author is a domain expert, and wants optimal flexibility
      - The author(s) are interested in making sure it is technically correct. Being user-friendly can come at a later version.
      - The software, when it is young, might be only used by domain experts, and they often ask for the myriad options.
      - The authors may not have had funding to continue making it Nice to use, when their initial contract was just to demonstrate capability.

      When the user pool expands, the expertise of the pool tends to drop, and only as the software matures will the interface get improved (if ever) to make this more friendly to non-experts. Outside of volunteers, sometimes it's not easy to get follow-on funding to make something "easy to use".

    100. Re:DVDFab by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 1

      With dual sided dvd's so cheap these days, why bother 'shrinking' the dvd?

      Because removable discs suck and are inconvenient to use. That's the whole point of ripping; why else would you be doing it?

      The reason you shrink, is so that you don't have to keep installing more hard discs in your fileserver, quite as often.

      Blank DVDs could be literally free, and I still wouldn't use them as my primary playback media. But I still gotta shrink or else I have to install more hard discs.

      And blank DVDs might be ok for backups of things much smaller than movies, but for movies, unless you shrink, you're only going to be able to fit one movie on there. DVDs suck. (Where's my 20 dollar terabyte tape cartridge?!)

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    101. Re:DVDFab by rockbottoms · · Score: 1

      He also said a Windows solution would be sufficient as long as it works. But he wants a single file as output though so dvdshrink won't work.

      Ive' never had a problem using DVD shrink to output to a single iso file, with only a couple of clicks

    102. Re:DVDFab by moderatorrater · · Score: 1

      I agree, and I'm technical enough to get those applications to run. I just hate the OS making me hack it to make it work. I love the ability to recompile the kernel or manually configure my network settings, but I hate being forced to. Ubuntu is by far the best I've ever tried in this regard, but it's still miles away from Windows or OSX.

    103. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A more apt description would be - "Linux IS a fantastic OS but many of the laymen that use it just aren't mature enough to wield it's power." The U.S. government run educational system was originated to educate the indigent population to the level of being a good little worker. Unfortunately, that system has seemingly reduced the entire population to that same dismal level. Now we have a populous of button pushers (i.e. Windows/Mac users), completely incapable of READIND, COMPREHENDING and IMPLEMENTING written instructions (i.e. man pages). I have no issues using ffmpeg or mencoder to convert media to use on my Sansa media player, Nokia phone or any other device using these very simple scripts. In fact I find them much easier and faster to use than many of the other limited GUI programs. I am duly impressed by my 65 year old mother's self-taught skill level using Linux on her own PC. Please, look upon new challenges as opportunities to improve yourself rather than an excuse to remain one of the functioning illiterate.

    104. Re:DVDFab by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      I have no idea. All I know is that when I ran version 0.8 on Mac, it worked 100% of the time, and when I tried the newer version (0.9 I think) on Windows, it never worked. (It's been a couple years, I can't even remember how it failed. Sorry.)

      That could be because the newer version simply doesn't work, period. Or it could be because the Windows port of it is broken. Or it could be because my Windows box is 64-bit and it doesn't like that, I don't know. Since my media server is a Mac G5, and since 0.8 actually does work, I've never tried to upgrade it.

      I'm sure if I uber-geeked-out and edited all the source code, and learned what the 50,000 kajillion options they added all did, and installed yadda yadda yadda I could get it to work, but why bother? I want software that works the first try, so I use the version of Handbrake that works the first try.

      Ripping on my PC would be nice, since it's something like 4 times faster than the G5, but oh well.

    105. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because dual-layer discs are still more than twice as expensive as single-layers discs.

      http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817507003
      http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817130046

      For ripping DVDs, I'd rather spend the 30 minutes it takes on my old P4 system (while I'm doing something else, like food shopping, or reading a book) to shrink the DVD down to single-layer size, then burn it.

    106. Re:DVDFab by wedgeshot · · Score: 1

      I just ripped Nemo quite a few times recently (Just beginning to rip movies for my media center server) with no problems so far other than I tried picking the longest title once with HandBrake but that title wound up being the movie with commentary. hehehehe.

      Now I have started to use -dumpfile option with mplayer to stream the DVD to an mpg and do a quick check to make sure the correct language is expected which allows me to rip three DVD's in a row and just loop them through HandBrake to create the mp4 files. I think it is faster and also saves some wear and tear on the DVD drive.

    107. Re:DVDFab by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Yup, same thing happened with me. Out at handbrake site, found out which track was the good one to get.

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    108. Re:DVDFab by Barsteward · · Score: 1

      You could try PirateBay, i think they may have a few big servers you could use for offsite backup

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    109. Re:DVDFab by LarryRiedel · · Score: 1

      QT doesn't need a whole bunch of wrappers and libraries to fake a windows environment, DVDFab does. End of story.

      You are comparing things on two different levels of abstraction here. QT is a set of libraries that provides a certain API on which applications are built. WINE is a set of libraries that provides a different API on which some other applications are built.

      I think the point is a typical application needs more than the libraries to successfully run under WINE. The application using WINE requires emulation at that higher level of abstraction.

      You wouldn't say that QT creates a "fake" QT environment for applications like KDE so why would you say that WINE provides a "fake" WIN32 environment for DVDFab?

      Fake Windows environment.

    110. Re:DVDFab by Taxman415a · · Score: 1

      Good point. I didn't catch that the OP wanted to play files on a portable media player. Handbrake might be exactly what he wants then. And while you can take anything you want and put it in an iso, creating an iso that plays on the widest range of DVD players isn't trivial either.

    111. Re:DVDFab by Taxman415a · · Score: 1
      That doesn't look like a bad option, and as of version 2.8 of the free version that just does DVD to divx, it does indeed work great in Wine. http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=4309 and I tested version 2.9 that is available for download on the website now.

      You have to buy the $29.99 version to get the features you mentioned, going to portable players etc. They say the full version works on Wine as well.

    112. Re:DVDFab by spitzak · · Score: 1

      Um, I think he is complaining about *all* DVD ripping software, including stuff that is not for Linux!

    113. Re:DVDFab by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "Dual-layer blanks have crappy compatibility with many stand-alone players. A shrunk DVD might lose a bit of quality when it's compressed down to one-layer size, but it least it can generally be depended on to play. DL blanks, not so much."

      REally?

      What brands/models have you run into that have problems?

      I've never had a problem with discs I've burned not working on stand alone players....unless the disc itself was scratched/messed up....

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    114. Re:DVDFab by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "Because removable discs suck and are inconvenient to use. That's the whole point of ripping; why else would you be doing it? "

      Personally, I'm backing up the dvds as a service to Netflix. You know..in case they lose theirs and need a copy back some day.

      :)

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    115. Re:DVDFab by spitzak · · Score: 1

      Another problem with the limited domain and the author being an expert:

      They are adding a new feature, and they realize "I think it is possible this won't work with hardware X and disk Y. I know the old version works because the users did not complain, but I don't have X or Y and can't test this new one. So I will put in this switch to make it work the old way".

      Another similar one is "I just realized there is a chance that somebody made a disk that works this strange way but I have never seen one so I can't test it. Better put in a switch the user can throw if they encounter this non-existent disk".

      Another huge problem is "I am really scared somebody will yell at me for not being back compatible, so even though I have designed this amazing new feature, I will leave it off by default and they will have to find the switch to turn it on. Then I am blameless. Besides I know how to turn it on and I leave it on and everything looks great to me!"

    116. Re:DVDFab by spitzak · · Score: 2, Informative

      Breaking existing applications has not been a problem at all, because the libraries are versioned. You may be confused by the result of replacing/upgrading the operating system, as this often deletes all the "old" libraries and thus gets you into the situation below where your software stops running.

      The real problem Linux has is that the given library version are not included with the programs, and thus to install a given program you often have to download and install a whole bunch of libraries. To make it further annoying often those libraries require even more libraries. I agree with lots of people here that it is an endless hopeless mess. Repositories are basically ways of automating this but don't solve the basic problem.

      I usually give up I often symbolically link whatever version number I have to the version number the program is looking for. Who knows how safe this is, but it has worked for me.

      Linux can certainly work the Windows way by including the library in the same directory as the executable, and linking with the special switch that makes it look in that directory first for them. That is what we do with our commercial software. I don't know why there is so much resistance to this in Linux but it seems commercial users (such as GoogleEarth) are doing this. Expert end users can remove or hide these files if they want to use the version installed with their system, just like Windows experts do.

      Even if people do that, both Linux and Windows have the problem where we don't include some library because we "know" it will be on the system. I would say this has bit us equally on both platforms.

    117. Re:DVDFab by MagusSlurpy · · Score: 1

      Linux is a fantastic OS but many of the applications that run on it are just not mature enough to be used by laymen.

      Many would argue that Linux is too mature to be used by laymen, and that the developers realize people sometimes need access to these options. Windows usually just locks people out of these options altogether, and the user is just SOL if something might require tinkering.

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    118. Re:DVDFab by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 1

      That's part of the overall issue, though. It's as bad as "The Great Driver Hunt" I have to do whenever I put together a new Windows machine and have to either download the latest drivers for each piece of hardware or go through all my CDs to pull out what I need and so on.

      Linux on the desktop has come a LONG way. But it's still only "almost there," and won't be "there" until you can do the things a lot of "Joe Users" want to do without having to add extra repositories or jump through hoops to make it happen.

    119. Re:DVDFab by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 1

      I've done programming in C++ and released it as FOSS before. Yet, for some reason, EVERY time I ever try compiling someone else's project from source, I run into problems with it.

      As for several days, well, you go down one path and hope it'll be solved in 5 minutes and it isn't. If I started trying to compile it, then I might run into other issues that could take me just as long. It's easy to say that in hindsight, but not when you're solving the problem.

      Plus, as I stated in another reply, this is part of the issue that many people on the development side don't see: End users should not have to put up with that. It's why Linux has such a small market share and until that is understood, the market share will always be small.

      I LOVE open source and could not have started my business with it. I've noticed, though, that whenever I or anyone else says, "This is an issue here," nobody wants to figure out how to keep it from being an issue. The answer is usually, "Do this, this and this." That stuff is easy for someone who is trained, but not for others. I've seen "/.configure && make & make install" go wrong more times than I've seen it go right and sometimes when it goes wrong, it can really screw up the package that was there.

      And there's one other issue with that path: When you build it yourself, it can be wiped out with the next set of updates if that's a package that was updated.

    120. Re:DVDFab by Greyor · · Score: 1

      You've a good point there. It's not so much of an issue for me since I'm pretty experienced with computers, but for the "grandma" Linux adoptions it's more of an issue. Unless, of course, you have your whiz kid grandson around to clean up the mess, which is generally an unrealistic expectation.

    121. Re:DVDFab by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 1

      if rebuilding libraries from glibc up is your idea of living, that's fine. Mine is that I'd rather sit at the computer and get my work done quickly, then go out and ride my bike or walk the dog and spend the evening dancing something like tango and foxtrot with a pretty woman.

      I spent a number of years as a developer, seeing how one program can get bigger and bigger and working on it can take more and more time out of life. I don't know how long I'll be on this green Earth before I get buried in it, but I'd rather spend what time I have left to be vertical and above ground doing the tango to some sexy music than rebuilding dependencies. A computer is a tool and when it gets to the point that I have to spend more time fixing tools than using them to do what I want, something is wrong.

    122. Re:DVDFab by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 1

      Man, you REALLY need a girlfriend.

    123. Re:DVDFab by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 1

      Actually, I do have that kind of cash laying around and what copying I'm doing comes under fair use. But it took me a lot of work in front of a computer to get to having that cash laying around and now I'd much rather enjoy LIFE than spend more and more time staring at an LCD screen. When I'm on my deathbed, am I going to look back and say, "Wow. I loved re-compiling this program and patching that one and getting this to work so I could import my HD camcorder files?" Not bloody well likely. But if I spend my life with friends and doing things I that keep me moving and teach others and see other countries, then when I'm on my death bed, I probably won't be wondering why I pissed away so much of my life alone, in a small room, with 5-7 computers and several monitors clustered around me.

    124. Re:DVDFab by glitch23 · · Score: 1

      The way I read "single output file" was not of an ISO but of an AVI-type file which DVDShrink does not do.

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    125. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bullshit. What this discussion shows is the total and complete utter ignorance of the posters up to now. There are great linux point and click dvd rippers, but the great slashdot crowd is too self-immmersed in its own narrative about computing platforms to see this. Instead of admitting ignorance about the topic at hand, they just diverge into a diatribe about how linux is hard to use and OSX makes them coffee every morning while giving them a blow job.

      Give it a break. Every real linux user knows that k9copy and OGMRip exist and they are both extremely simple to use. No esoteric options needed.

    126. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MOD UP. This is what I use.

    127. Re:DVDFab by digitalchinky · · Score: 1

      That I was sir!

    128. Re:DVDFab by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      Well the reason I recommend it to my customers is its ease of use. Sure you can tweak bitrates and such if you want to, but they already have presets for quality, size, etc so there really isn't any need to tweak anything. Just pick say iPod or Zune or PSP and pick what kind of quality you want and let it go.

      So for usability I'd say Fair Use Wizard is as close to "clicky clicky" as one can get when dealing with video conversion. And since from the tone of his question he seems to want quick and easy that is what I would recommend over DVDFab. Can you find other tools to do the same? yes. Cheaper or maybe even free? Yes again. Will it be as simple and easy as Fair Use Wizard? I really doubt it.

      I have used just about every kind of video converter known to man and the 2 I keep coming back to are Fair Use Wizard and Nero Recode. Recode for files I'm going to watch on PC and Fair Use Wizard for my youngest PSP and everything else. It really is a "pick and go" kind of tool, and with so little free time I'd rather give them the $30 than waste time dicking around with tools that may or may not work. Fair Use Wizard always gives me the results I want time after time. So IMHO it is worth the $30 if you want an easy to use DVD converter that does just about any format you could desire.

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    129. Re:DVDFab by budgenator · · Score: 1

      Linux can certainly work the Windows way by including the library in the same directory as the executable, and linking with the special switch that makes it look in that directory first for them. That is what we do with our commercial software. I don't know why there is so much resistance to this in Linux but it seems commercial users (such as GoogleEarth) are doing this. Expert end users can remove or hide these files if they want to use the version installed with their system, just like Windows experts do.

      By using shared libraries, installed program space is minimized and we don't have to check a gazillion files every time a security flaw or a bug is found in a library.

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    130. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was watching the discussion, and found people argumenting about windows and linux.. But my opinion is open source morality is no more about exclusions, it is all about inclusions so that every one gets a chance to live in this world.. we can fuse windows apps and linux apps in the linux machines so that we can make linux more usable.. atleast for now... and later when we get better technologies available... we might avoid the current win apps and use the alternatives.. for example i use dreamweaver in linux using wine, since there are no better alternatives... Look at things from different directions positively.. Can we have a firefox version which will not accept pages from windows servers ??? yeah i mean exclusion will only narrow possibilities...

      NextDoorNerd

    131. Re:DVDFab by celtic_hackr · · Score: 1

      I just use K9Copy. It just works. I did make a few changes (I use the AC3 for sound instead of the default), and it has few quirks based on how movie studios label and group stuff. I just find the part I want to copy, click on it, then click on a specific language (this is a necessary step, for some odd reason, I left it off once and part of the rip was in French), and click on the subtitles I want (I'm predominately deaf). Then rip it to an iso. Once that's done I burn it off to a disk. Easy as pie and no stupid commercials, menu copyright warnings you can't zip through, extra features, blah blah blah. Sure I could do all that, but why? I just want the movie.

    132. Re:DVDFab by bh_doc · · Score: 1

      The way Mac apps hold your hand all the time in a "Trust us, you didn't really want to have that option" kind of way is why I always get frustrated using it. Sure, it's nice if an app says "That's a really stupid idea" and does it anyway, but "I can't let you do that, Dave" gets really annoying. Of course, that's very likely not representative of the general consumer. It's just to say, Linux apps suit me, and I'm sure a number of other people, precisely *because* they aren't taylored to suit the general consumer.

    133. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      who's that trip tropping over my bridge?

    134. Re:DVDFab by thejam · · Score: 1

      Linux is a fantastic OS but many of the applications that run on it are just not mature enough to be used by laymen.

      Maybe some laymen are just not mature enough to use applications?

    135. Re:DVDFab by toddestan · · Score: 1

      The problem I have with the Mac is that if you actually know what all those obscure settings are and want to play with them, or if you have a situation where you actually need to go and tweak them to get a good result because the defaults aren't working, you can't because the interface is so dumbed down. That's the problem I have with a lot of Mac software.

    136. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DvdShrink is able to generate a .ISO file, so it should work

    137. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Linux != Linux/x86-32.

    138. Re:DVDFab by lduvall · · Score: 1

      Ah, but Islam has a God, so are we a Islamic nation? Or Hindu's have Gods, so are we a Hundu nation? And some of the most "moral" people I knew are Communists, or at least their governments are, so does that make us a communistic nation? Christianity doens't have a corner on mottos, morals, or laws.

    139. Re:DVDFab by dpastern · · Score: 1

      It's not running natively in Linux. WINE is intended to run Windows binaries. That alone should give you enough of a hint.

      I agree with the parent - not a lot works under Linux - so much of it's alpha, or not even alpha quality, very dodgy quality, very unreliable.

      As I've strongly said in the past, it would be far better for Linux users if it dropped the "we must have 50 types of applications to do X" mentality, and everyone just worked together on the one killer app. Better development, faster development, less bugs, more features.

      Dave

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    140. Re:DVDFab by Yfrwlf · · Score: 1

      Thanks. :P

      It's annoying though how ignored this problem is. Piracy and file sharing got Windows to where it is today, and if standardized packaging formats were created that any distro could install, file sharing would help out Linux too.

      User 1: Have you tried out the new beta version of Firefox?
      User 2: No, I'm stuck with Firefox 3.0.8, because that's what my repo gives me, and I couldn't cleanly upgrade and replace it easily.
      User 1: Yes you can, it's a universal package format, it will give you the option to easily upgrade your current version. No menu item changes or tinkering needed like for straight binary archives, it does it all in just a few clicks!
      User 2: Cool! Linux rocks!

      Is what is needed. It needs to tie in with the package manager so that you can *replace*/upgrade packages on your system. When newer versions of certain libraries are needed, it should have the original developer's source to pull them from as well as many mirrors like sourceforge and such.

      There are just so many ways in which this will give all Linux users much more freedom that I can't even begin, and all the technical questions to get this done are small and easily answered, like from a few problems the way I understand them:

      Q) What if two different libraries are needed, so that the newer library cannot replace the older one?
      A) Libraries should be able to be easily installed side-by-side, and there should be a good API for the library so that compatibility in general will never be broken. If there *is* truly a legitimate need to have a cut off, where one program needs an older library, and another needs a newer one, so be it.
      Q) But that will slow my computer down some to be running older software, more current software, and bleeding edge software.
      A) If a certain program isn't being maintained anymore lets say, and there was some huge library change which made it so that an old library version was required for this old program, would you rather have your computer load a possible additional library, or not use the program at all if you're a basic user who doesn't understand the command line or how to compile or simply doesn't want to fuck with doing that? If it's possible that the program can be compatible with the newer library after it is recompiled, so be it, someone will helpfully do that, but a normal desktop user should definitely, definitely NOT be *forced* to learn to use the command line and compile, otherwise Linux has failed to bring easy desktop Linux to the masses. Just because someone hasn't updated that program shouldn't mean that *you're* the one who has to do so, you should still have free/quick/easy access.
      Q) But what about different config files? Different "flavors" of different packages? Won't installing certain things make breaking my current set-up possible?
      A) Where ever there is a different *program*, there should be a different name. If someone actually *modifies* a certain program, that program should be released under a different name. Not only is it polite and simple netiquette, but it's also what the GPL requires (in the countries that require adhering to copyright law that is). If a certain "module" of a certain program is needed, if it is actually modular, those "sub-dependencies" should be called for and easily installed if the program actually IS a modular program. If it isn't, the lowest common denominator to get what is needed should be downloaded/installed automagically. This puts focus on individual software projects instead of being simply buried behind the scenes by a distro company, and gives them more reason to care about making modular software, instead of creating these static software stacks that don't use APIs/standards. As for the config file thing, the same thing applies, config files should be done away with or made *dynamic*, like the program itself, so that static configuration isn't required. In the short term though, these configuration files can have their own packag

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    141. Re:DVDFab by Yfrwlf · · Score: 1

      Fully agreed. Dependencies and "playing nice" with the Linux community in every way to ensure that your program can be easily installed and used is critical. Proprietary Linux can go to hell. Linux spawned in the community and that's where it should play nicely as that's its strength. If someone doesn't want to, I hope their program doesn't get used and that a better program pops up, or that someone else takes over or forks it.

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    142. Re:DVDFab by Yfrwlf · · Score: 1

      Having many "software bundles" is a good thing, it allows you to get closer to the set of software that you want as a base before you further add or remove more to customize it. I don't want restrictive software, you didn't understand my post.

      Standards give users freedom. The ODF document standard, as an example, or HTML, those standards give users choice. Users can still choose to communicate with other protocols like FTP though. Because the *communication protocol* is standardized, it allows any program to be made compatible with it. Hundreds of web browsers, hundreds of FTP programs, hundreds of office suites. Those are all very good things, and give users more choice. Those standards grant us all freedoms.

      The problem is that Linux needs to be Linux. POSIX standards means that you can run Linux binaries on any system (provided dependencies are met), and there is ***NO*** reason why package managers cannot be made compatible with one or more standardized packaging formats. Right now, these formats are proprietary even though they are open because they do not address or are designed for openness and implementation by the world at large. They lack important metadata, they don't care about pulling directly from project homepages and mirrors, they are not designed with openness and universal naming conventions and other features to enable universal Linux packaging.

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    143. Re:DVDFab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The latest versions of Handbrake now require VLC to run properly (VLC does the DVD/Media playback). The upshot is, Handbrake can now encode anything that VLC can play.

    144. Re:DVDFab by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      I don't want it to encode 500 different file types or whatever, I just want to put in a disk, hit Go, and end up with a file my iPod can play. Anything more than that is added complexity I don't want- so I use the old version.

    145. Re:DVDFab by kage82 · · Score: 1

      Ah, but Islam has a God, so are we a Islamic nation? Or Hindu's have Gods, so are we a Hundu nation? And some of the most "moral" people I knew are Communists, or at least their governments are, so does that make us a communistic nation? Christianity doens't have a corner on mottos, morals, or laws.

      I agree with what you wrote but i think your replying to the posters sig, not his comment.

    146. Re:DVDFab by BuckaBooBob · · Score: 1

      So what your saying is you consider pretty much every app out there as being "Linux Native" as you are pretty hard pressed to find a OS that doesn't run in a VM..

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  2. Funny you should ask... by darpo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just this morning, Lifehacker posted about this very topic: http://lifehacker.com/5205221/acidrip-for-linux-rips-dvds-with-two+click-ease

    1. Re:Funny you should ask... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      RTFS!

      The OP specifically stated that Acidrip does not work.

    2. Re:Funny you should ask... by darpo · · Score: 1

      You have much to learn about karma whoring, young padawan.

  3. Use Handbrake by SuperNothing307 · · Score: 5, Informative

    You won't find one better than Handbrake, works great for me. Here's a howto I wrote on the topic: http://spareclockcycles.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/handbrake-for-dvd-ripping-on-ubuntu/

    1. Re:Use Handbrake by Reddragon220 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Just bumping Handbreak since it's my personal favorite. Here's a nice vid tutorial incase your lazy like the rest of us and don't feel like reading: Methodshop - Handbreak . It is the OS X version but not that far off from what you'd expect to see in Linux

    2. Re:Use Handbrake by bcat24 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Indeed. Handbrake and libdvdcss are all you need.

    3. Re:Use Handbrake by mrsalty · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I will second this. I used this to encode all of my Kid DVDs so that the original copies are never ruined. My movies too, but for reasons of convenience rather than worries about damage. Combine this with a Popcorn Hour(my choice), MythTV, etc and you have your entire movie library at your fingertips.

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    4. Re:Use Handbrake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another vote for Handbrake. I Find it hard to believe that in 2009 Handbrake is not what one immediately thinks of when they want to rip DVDs for use on portable media devices.

    5. Re:Use Handbrake by Elfich47 · · Score: 2, Informative

      windows users need DVD43 in place of libdvdcss.

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    6. Re:Use Handbrake by forgottenusername · · Score: 5, Informative

      /agree

      I'm really impressed with Handbrake. I actually use it to transcode a bunch of stuff so my ps3 will play it. They have a bunch of really handy presets for various device, such as ps3, iPod video, xbox 360 long with things like tv/animation etc.

      They have a CLI mode which is useful for scripting.

      HandBrake GUI on Linux is now a full fledged port, not just a hacky frontend to the CLI tool.

      Job managment is great too, with a real time adjustable queue, ability to pause/resume etc.

      One thing I haven't found out how to do is splice AVIs, I use avidemux for that. Which is another amazingly awesome program.

      3 people who figure this AV crap out that I have 0 interest in. I just want the friggin' thing to do the thing, man.

    7. Re:Use Handbrake by scotch · · Score: 2, Funny

      You love it so much that you misspelled its name twice? :)

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    8. Re:Use Handbrake by poopie · · Score: 1

      Handbrake is definitely the best free DVD ripping software under Linux

    9. Re:Use Handbrake by the_macman · · Score: 1

      Just another Handbrake bump. Best DVD ripping app I've used in Windows and OS X. The developer is pretty damn smart and knows his shit. Best of all he has an irc channel and you can talk to him and get one on one support. He has helped me resolve several issues! just don't ask dumb questions)

      -Anon

    10. Re:Use Handbrake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop the madness! Handbrake is only good when it comes to mac, on win/lin it sucks. Use VLC (my favorite), Mencoder/Mplayer or dd (then vlc or mencoder to convert).

    11. Re:Use Handbrake by Le+Fol · · Score: 1

      Handbrake burns the subtitle into the film and doesn't allow to easily include several audio languages and subtitles. I'm multilingual and enjoy to see films with friends speaking various languages. The recent versions of OGMrip doesn't set the sound out of sync unless you jump back and forth inside the film.

    12. Re:Use Handbrake by bubbaD · · Score: 1

      on my Mac, with admittedly low memory, HB can be slow. HD rips take forever. The fact that it is cross-platform FOSS and continues to be actively developed is pretty cool though.
      On those counts alone I wouldn't recommend anything else.

    13. Re:Use Handbrake by sustik · · Score: 2, Informative

      Handbrake probably works for most people. I also tried x264enc which I prefer over Handbrake.

      But presently I do not use either: I use mencoder directly. I write scripts based on
      mencoder forum comments and ones that x264enc generated.

      I got better results (quality and control) with x264enc. This was end of 2008. Since then I am using my scripts only. I posted one to the mencoder list (search on gmane) which I used to encode over the air HD broadcasts. I extract the closed captions as well and reencode the audio (6 channels if availabale) into ogg. (See oggenc, ccextractor.)

      Regarding DVD-s the only issue is the closed caption extraction. I use OSS OCR software (tccat, tcextract, subtitle2pgm) and the quality is far from perfect. I lot of spell checking (ispell) and editing is needed.

    14. Re:Use Handbrake by AlXtreme · · Score: 5, Funny

      You love it so much that you misspelled its name twice? :)

      Handbreak is what the MPAA will do to you if they find out you use Handbrake.

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    15. Re:Use Handbrake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Got to be Handbrake. Works beautifully on OS X and Windows too.

      (AC because have moderated this topic)

    16. Re:Use Handbrake by dtrace4linux · · Score: 1

      I can echo that handbrake is brilliant - especially good for ipods, although i have an issue with volume on the movies being created - they are sometimes too quiet. (European ipod volume limiter is criminally negligent).

    17. Re:Use Handbrake by drb_chimaera · · Score: 1

      I use Vobcopy with it as well - rip a bunch of DVDs to HDD then I can queue up a buch of transcodes in Handbrake.

    18. Re:Use Handbrake by lytir · · Score: 1

      Two problems with Handbrake:
      - It doesn't recognize titles with no audio.
      - The autocrop feature doesn't allow you to choose a different frame (like dvd::rip does), so that if the frame is mostly black the crop will be too aggressive.

      These issues render it useless.

    19. Re:Use Handbrake by ByTor-2112 · · Score: 1

      Handbrake is good, but in my experience it has some drawbacks. The crop detection is not robust. Try ripping a movie like "the usual suspects" that has almost all black opening credits and you'll get something like an 80x80 file. It also doesn't support some of the more esoteric quality options and video filters like mencoder.

      I used to use handbrake for an easy solution, but I've spent the past year or so slowly creating a sh script that works using a combination of lsdvd, awk, sed, mplayer and mencoder that will basically transcode anything you throw at it. Then you either rip straight from your dvd or an ISO.

      If you check the mencoder-users mailing list you can find several of those type scripts out there.

    20. Re:Use Handbrake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try AutoBrake: http://autobrake.info/

      Its a more or less idiot proof interface to handbrake

    21. Re:Use Handbrake by sglow · · Score: 1

      I use mencoder also, The following script has worked for virtually every DVD I've tried:

      mencoder dvd://$1 -o "$2" -aid 128 -oac copy -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=msmpeg4:keyint=100:mbd=1:vbitrate=1800

      The first parameter is the track number (use lsdvd and pick the longest track), the second parameter is the file name

    22. Re:Use Handbrake by markdavis · · Score: 1

      I don't think Handbrake will work with ARCCOS and other types of copy protection based on intentionally corrupting certain DVD sectors. So it might not be "all you need".

      In any case, the HandBrake site has a Linux command line binary that will run on most any Linux. But the GUI version (ghb) is only offered as a .deb. And even if you use "alien" to install it on non-Debian based distros, it might not work (ghb: error while loading shared libraries: libxcb-render-util.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory).

      If you need an RPM that will work on Mandriva, and probably on Fedora & SuSe, see this: http://home.linuxtech.net/downloads/handbrake_mandriva_rpm.html it is a build from SVN, but it seems to work.

    23. Re:Use Handbrake by ByTor-2112 · · Score: 1

      Splicing AVIs: mencoder -oac copy -ovc copy -forceidx -o spliced.avi file1.avi file2.avi ... filen.avi

    24. Re:Use Handbrake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HandBrake doesn't allow you to choose a different frame for autocrop because it doesn't rely on only one frame to make its decision. It analyses several frames and picks the median. This is very accurate an overwhelming majority of the time. If you don't like the choice it made. You can manually tweak the crop settings. It will show you what it looks like in the preview window.

    25. Re:Use Handbrake by grege1 · · Score: 1

      Handbrake has one feature I use a lot, making a widescreen version of 4:3 video. I use it for my own videos, but it could be used for any original. DVD:Rip can also do this, but just for DVDs, Hnadbrake can do it for any avi or mpeg.

    26. Re:Use Handbrake by dpastern · · Score: 1

      But, I believe handbrake will NOT work with encrypted DVDs, which is 99% of DVDs on the market. I've tried the Windows version of handbrake, and it doesn't work. Maybe I missed something, but OOTB, it is an epic fail.

      Dave

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    27. Re:Use Handbrake by SuperNothing307 · · Score: 1

      You have missed something:P. All DVDs are encrypted via what's known as CSS, a very weak encryption but an encryption nonetheless. On Linux, libdvdcss will take care of that decryption for you transparently, but you do need to already have it installed for any of these ripping tools to work (including Handbrake). On Windows, you need to get something like AnyDVD or DVD43 to decrypt the DVD for you.

    28. Re:Use Handbrake by dpastern · · Score: 1

      My bad, I was referring to using Handbrake on Windows - it's as useless as the proverbial on Windows.

      Yes, I know DVDs are encrypted, and I konw about libdvdread, decss etc etc. I've used Linux quite extensively for the better part of the last decade and more.

      Thanks for the reply though.

      Dave

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    29. Re:Use Handbrake by SuperNothing307 · · Score: 1

      No prob, easy mistake. I remember experiencing the same thing on Windows a long while back, very annoying at the time.

    30. Re:Use Handbrake by dpastern · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I know. I'm using Vista atm, quite like it, it's been rock solid for the past year. I do a lot of photography, so I use Photoshop CS2, which up until very recently, would not run under WINE. Yes, I could have done a VM, but decided not to. After many years of using Linux, I've given up on it - it's a half baked effort imho, with some critical problems that no one wants to resolve. I have very firm beliefs that until these core issues are resolved, Linux will go no where.

      Linux, imho, has missed the boat, and OS X has left port at the right time. Many Linux users are either migrating to OS X, or have already done so. Linux numbers will continue to dwindle, especially since hardware vendors and software vendors are still not porting drivers/software to the platform.

      There'll always be some Linux users - those who hate Macs, those who don't/won't, or can't, spend money on an O/S, or those that believe in the GPL. I think in the long run, most of those with probably migrate to freeBSD, which despite the licence, is better in many respects.

      Dave

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  4. This will help. by FictionPimp · · Score: 3, Funny
    1. Re:This will help. by teh+moges · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't think the "Let me google that for you" joke applies when you add a different keyword in.

    2. Re:This will help. by masshuu · · Score: 0

      http://live.lmgtfy.com/

      hmmm

      handbreak just appeared 23 times in a row, and the streak was broken by "amish porn"

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    3. Re:This will help. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      That's nothing. I just saw a bunch of handbrake's, followed by "hot pics of a woman being fucked in the ass with a rifle". I'm familiar with rule 34 and all, but come ON.

    4. Re:This will help. by ignavus · · Score: 1

      http://lmgtfy.com/?q=handbrake

      If you use Debian add the debian-media site to your /etc/apt/sources.list and ...

      apt-get install handbrake-gtk

      (This works on Debian testing)

      It is very easy to use. Even I can use it. Want a movie in mp4 format for an ipod? No problems. Anime with Japanese soundtrack only - must get the English subtitles? No problem.

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    5. Re:This will help. by atraintocry · · Score: 1

      So many handbrake searches. I wonder how many people heard of lmgtfy for the first time today.

      Seeing one for "dog helmets" :)

    6. Re:This will help. by Facegarden · · Score: 0, Redundant

      http://lmgtfy.com/?q=handbrake

      Fail. Let me google that for you is only funny when its something stupidly obvious to google for. How the hell was the guy supposed to already know to google "handbrake"?
      -Taylor

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    7. Re:This will help. by SpaghettiPattern · · Score: 1

      FYI, it's french and is to be pronounced with a francophone accent: Andbrick

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    8. Re:This will help. by dmomo · · Score: 1

      Fail indeed! And it should be hidden behind an obfuscated url...

    9. Re:This will help. by maxume · · Score: 1

      Sorry, English is not prescriptive.

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    10. Re:This will help. by jriding · · Score: 1

      ok now I am hooked and sitting here wondering what is prompting some of these requests to lmgtfy.com ....

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  5. Handbrake! by imac.usr · · Score: 4, Informative

    Live it, learn it, love it.
    http://handbrake.fr/

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    1. Re:Handbrake! by spandex_panda · · Score: 1

      +1 Handbrake. It is packages with a GUI for Ubuntu (Debian?) it is fast (multi threaded), you can line up several runs to go one after the other (baatch processing) and it 'just works'.
      I used it the other day to rip 3 .iso's (of Charlie and Lola) down to my custom 1GB avi (using h264 and vbr mp3) and it ran and finished in what seemed like ~1 hr! This was on 2 pass, and they look fantastic!
      I wonder if it only works so well because it was made for mac first?

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    2. Re:Handbrake! by MacColossus · · Score: 2, Funny

      "I wonder if it only works so well because it was made for mac first?" Actually it was made for Be OS first.

    3. Re:Handbrake! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I wonder if it only works so well because it was made for mac first?" Actually it was made for Be OS first.

      OUCH !

    4. Re:Handbrake! by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      Handbrake has one major deficiency which I find completely inexplicable: it only allows one subtitle track even when working with container formats which allow multiple subtitle tracks. I'd really love to be able to abandon DVDs and just make only mkvs or even ogms but Handbrake does not appear to have this small piece of obvious functionality. Unfortunately I still don't know how to do this, so I'm still transcoding DVDs, so Handbrake won't help me. Actually, it may be the best RIPPER out there (I still normally just run dvdbackup) for Linux... So it might HELP but it's not a complete solution. Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, neither is anything else.

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    5. Re:Handbrake! by EddydaSquige · · Score: 1

      I alway thought it was great that they kept updating the Be OS version for so long too, way after Be OS left the market.

    6. Re:Handbrake! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder if it only works because it is based on "libraries from the linux world..."

    7. Re:Handbrake! by dhasenan · · Score: 1
  6. Handbrake has a Linux GUI by Ian+Alexander · · Score: 3, Insightful

    http://handbrake.fr/

    I use it on my Mac and it produces pretty decent encodes, even with the presets.

    1. Re:Handbrake has a Linux GUI by Bald-Headed+Geek · · Score: 1

      I have to say that Handbrake is my favorite desktop application. Of course it gets a lot of use since I rip all my DVD/bluray purchases and put them on my media server. Of course it cannot rip the bluray but I use it to re-encode them to save some disk space. Also use it to encode my AVCHD video files from my Sony HD camera so I can play them on Linux. Try Handbrake!!

  7. Handbrake by broken_chaos · · Score: 2, Informative

    I find Handbrake works excellently under OSX, and, seeing as it has a Linux/GUI version, it may be worth trying out.

    http://handbrake.fr

    1. Re:Handbrake by broken_chaos · · Score: 1

      Geeze, in the time it took me to post that, there were four replies suggesting the same thing. I'm guessing you may have found your solution.

    2. Re:Handbrake by samkass · · Score: 1

      I clicked on this story to recommend Handbrake then realized 5 other people had already done so.

      It's worth noting that with Handbrake 0.93 you'll want libdvdcss around so it can still do DVD decryption, as they removed that from the core codebase.

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    3. Re:Handbrake by B5_geek · · Score: 1

      I will second the vote for Handbrake.

      It's the best tool for the job.

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  8. Thoggen by Peter_J_G · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Thoggen is good, it works just perfectly, just search in synaptic. And obviously you will need libdvdcss.

    1. Re:Thoggen by Ian+Alexander · · Score: 2, Informative

      According to the summary Thoggen is having issues with the chapters on his discs.

    2. Re:Thoggen by Peter_J_G · · Score: 1

      my apologies, I only read the first bit.

    3. Re:Thoggen by Urza9814 · · Score: 1

      Yea, I was all ready to suggest Thoggen before reading the summary. It's actually the only DVD ripper I've ever gotten to work on Linux. But then, maybe his problem is Ubuntu - that's the only distro I've every tried that I couldn't even get the installer to start up. Though to be fair, that was a few years ago.

  9. Windows + AnyDVD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Have a look at AnyDVD for Windows with your ripper of choice.

  10. Mencoder? by DjangoShagnasty · · Score: 5, Informative

    Mencoder (mplayer package) works pretty well.

    Following the docs gave me decent quality rips without too much hassle.

    http://web.njit.edu/all_topics/Prog_Lang_Docs/html/mplayer/encoding.html

    1. Re:Mencoder? by PiSkyHi · · Score: 1

      because its all command line, I wrote a script that leaves the DVD tray open and whenever I pop a disc in, it is automatically transferred and encoded to x264/mkv in the background.

      after doing a dvdbackup to a tmp directory, the DVD tray is ejected whilst encoding proceeds, allowing me to pop a few in before I go to sleep.

      mkv now supports VOB subtitles, so I just use that for all subtitles for now - I can always develop another tool chain to convert the current mkvs to new mkvs with ocr on the subtitles converting them to srt format.

      certainly saves a lot of space over storing DVDs raw.

    2. Re:Mencoder? by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 1

      If you just want a quick copy on a hard drive and don't care about shrinking, you don't even need to bother with mencoder:

      $ dd if=/dev/dvd of=my_dvd.iso
      ...
      $ mplayer -dvd-device my_dvd.iso dvd://1

    3. Re:Mencoder? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now if only those docs would be on the mplayer/mencoder site rather than on some random .edu site.

    4. Re:Mencoder? by qwertyatwork · · Score: 1

      Check out tovid. Its a script that simplifies mplayer.

    5. Re:Mencoder? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mencoder is the most reliable solution by far. Being based on mplayer it has incredible flexibility and configurability, but the downside is that you often need to tweak the parameters to get a rip just right. Unfortunately, I haven't seen many good GUI front ends for it but it's definitely the most powerful ripping software I've seen for linux.

      As far as GUIs go, k9copy is a solid application but I normally use it to rip ISOs. I'm not sure if it's good at ripping them to mpegs or not.

    6. Re:Mencoder? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As an added benefit, reading the man page will give you something to do over the long weekend.

    7. Re:Mencoder? by LarryRiedel · · Score: 1

      Now if only those docs would be on the mplayer/mencoder site rather than on some random .edu site.

      ???

      Chapter 11. Encoding with MEncoder

  11. Why bother? by wampus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    BitTorrent. Its probably faster and definitely easier.

    1. Re:Why bother? by Hurricane78 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Unfortunately, most encoders (the people, not the programs) out there seem to be idiots. Most of the time, you still get XviD with MP3, in a AVI container. No chapters, problems with the aspect ratio (because many encoders cut off some pixels on the border, for optimization reasons), and most of all, a totally shitty quality.

      Nowadays, I expect my videos to be in this format:
      - 700-1400 MB size
      - Matroska container
      - H.264 encoded video
      - AC3 5.1 Dolby Digital or better audio
      - no visible quality difference from the original DVD, even for experts
      - includes chapters and other metadata.
      If possible, there should also be
      - Two audio streams. one in my language, one in the original language
      - Subtitles for the original language included in the container.
      - Cover and infos included in the metadata.

      If the original medium exists in a HD format, I want that quality too (of course with a bigger file size).

      No reason to own a home cinema, when you watch YouTube videos on it. ^^

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    2. Re:Why bother? by gparent · · Score: 1

      You need to look for better torrents, honestly. You can find really good quality 720p rips with 5.1 Dolby on piratebay, and that's a pretty low standard when it comes down to trackers. I personally do not pay attention to chapters, subtitles and all that stuff I don't use, so that might be harder to find, but if quality is what you're mainly looking for, it's definitely there.

    3. Re:Why bother? by evilviper · · Score: 1

      BitTorrent. Its probably faster and definitely easier.

      If you know the slightest thing about video encoding, you can do VASTLY better than the hordes of drag-n-drop encoding kiddies keeping P2P networks supplied with new releases. Think: movies half the size, that look vastly better.

      And encoding yourself is also very likely much faster, unless you insist on using the oldest machines, in combination with the newest video codecs. Frankly, H.264 provides minimal quality improvements, and simply isn't worth the order-of-magnitude performance hit on both encoding AND playback... but I digress.

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    4. Re:Why bother? by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      I know. I use btjunkey.org, which basically indexes priatebay, mininova and tons of other trackers. But it's very rare that I find a something good. Usually i try to find at least AC3 5.1 and x264. But then the resolution is a bit weak, or they are in AVI and I have to re-package, and so on. Rarely do I find something that I am completely happy with.
      The hardest thing is, to get the own language audio (German here) in 5.1.

      Luckily, mkvmerge and just pulling more than one version solved many problems for me. I just merge the best of them together. It's really quick too.

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    5. Re:Why bother? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're the idiot. People make those Xvid/MP3 AVIs for a simple reason, they will play on many standalone DVD players.

    6. Re:Why bother? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While I agree that the majority of rips out there at places like TPB, etc, are of poor quality and you are right to be annoyed by that, there are smaller private communities out there where you can get tons of high quality rips.

      Actually XviD is an excellent standard and the preferred standard of the world's most elite cinema (and ripping) snobs, the members of karagarga.net. You won't find too many serious P2P junkies out there who are FOSS purists so don't expect Matroska to sweep the bitTorrent world anytime soon.

      And while AC3 sound is good for modern films, you actually are better to go with smaller mp3 files for an older (let's say pre-1970) mono soundtrack film. The extra size for AC3 quality adds nothing to mono sound and just wastes space on drives, and more time to download.

      If you want chapters, menus and all that why would you use a 700 - 1400MB file size? You're better to go with a full DVD rip at around 5+ GB and get an exact copy of the disc.

      Also you will never find a 700MB rip that is equivalent to DVD resolution, just technically not gonna happen. Some 1400MB rips can be close though if they're done properly.

    7. Re:Why bother? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You... Want?!?.. a dub?
      No wonder you aren't finding what you want.
      Nobody provides that in a pre-packaged deal.

      >Two audio streams. one in my language, one in the original language

      So, what you're saying is that there should be 50 versions of the movie. One with Original+French, one with original+German, one with ....

      What you need is to do is either:
      Figure out that ALL dubs suck (don't give me that Cowboy Bebop bs), problem solved.
      Or, find a community that provides individual audio tracks and mux them into the file yourself.

    8. Re:Why bother? by mellon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Encoding yourself is dangerous. What if you forget the key?

      Seriously, H.264 may not be ideal for personal use, but it rocks if you're actually doing video production for online distribution, and there are USB dongles you can get that will encode faster than realtime without using up all your CPU.

    9. Re:Why bother? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lofrikinl.
      I don't know what's funnier. The fact that you think all P2P=Inexperienced script kiddies, that you think you can make a good encode in an amount of time that actually makes it cost effective, or that you think H.264 provides a minimal quality improvement.

      http://mirror05.x264.nl/Dark/website/compare.html

    10. Re:Why bother? by Animaether · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "If you want chapters, menus and all that why would you use a 700 - 1400MB file size? You're better to go with a full DVD rip at around 5+ GB and get an exact copy of the disc."
      Hear, hear - I was thinking the exact same thing: just make an ISO of the DVD and mount that whenever you want to play it.

      The only criteria that this doesn't meet is the file size... big deal, get another 1TB drive... they're stupid-cheap now. On the up side, you're not re-encoding anything and if something better comes along down the line, you can still transcode from that ISO to that format without any further quality loss.

      But I guess GP was talking about downloads (torrents/otherwise), in which case he probably doesn't have the original (DVD) media to begin with; in which case, sure, you may prefer the high quality MKV over a low-ish quality DiVX.. if you can't find the ISO anyway.

    11. Re:Why bother? by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, most encoders (the people, not the programs) out there seem to be idiots. Most of the time, you still get XviD with MP3, in a AVI container.

      Because that's exactly what most people want. XVid+Mp3 is supported on most OSs AFAIK and it works on a lot of DVD players too.

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    12. Re:Why bother? by bazorg · · Score: 1
      well, I happen to bother because I like the distinction between the buyer of a DVD ripping the content to the media of their choice vs. the freeloader grabbing unauthorized copies and aiding in their distribution.

      If I don't bother, then I really should not be seen on slashdot saying that anti-piracy measures are bad because they affect honest buyers more than they affect illegitimate distributors of copyrighted works.

    13. Re:Why bother? by Yfrwlf · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      But H264 is a patented codec, so they can fuck off. Support open codecs, help make patents worthless.

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    14. Re:Why bother? by NotBorg · · Score: 1

      So some random dude standing up and awkwardly edging to one side of the screen in the middle of the movie... that's out? Where's your sense of adventure?

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    15. Re:Why bother? by BlackPignouf · · Score: 1

      Interesting. Any hint as to how you achieve this?
      Please???

    16. Re:Why bother? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use an mp4 container with H.264 level 4.1 video and 128kbps aac audio. Also I have to keep the file size below 2 GB. This is mainly because that's what my PS3 supports in the PS3 OS. Now if i could get boxee or something like intel's quick booting whatever, i might be inclined to change that.

      I have been using mplayer to dump the dvd to a file and ffmpeg 2 pass constant q encoding. The raw dvd dump is only around 6 GB, and i'd just keep it at that if anything other than mplayer and maybe VLC knew how to play it.

    17. Re:Why bother? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately, most encoders (the people, not the programs) out there seem to be idiots. Most of the time, you still get XviD with MP3, in a AVI container. No chapters, problems with the aspect ratio (because many encoders cut off some pixels on the border, for optimization reasons), and most of all, a totally shitty quality.

      Nowadays, I expect my videos to be in this format:
      - 700-1400 MB size
      - Matroska container
      - H.264 encoded video
      - AC3 5.1 Dolby Digital or better audio
      - no visible quality difference from the original DVD, even for experts
      - includes chapters and other metadata.
      If possible, there should also be
      - Two audio streams. one in my language, one in the original language
      - Subtitles for the original language included in the container.
      - Cover and infos included in the metadata.

      If the original medium exists in a HD format, I want that quality too (of course with a bigger file size).

      No reason to own a home cinema, when you watch YouTube videos on it. ^^

      Hurricane_78 says:
      Unfortunately, most encoders (the people, not the programs) out there seem to be idiots.

      I await with interest a detailed list of your own contributions. I don't doubt that it will be fewer than the count of letters in the word few. I do doubt that a reply will be posted

    18. Re:Why bother? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DVD->700-1400mb with "no visible difference even for experts"...lol.

    19. Re:Why bother? by evilviper · · Score: 1

      or that you think H.264 provides a minimal quality improvement.

      http://mirror05.x264.nl/Dark/website/compare.html

      It does indeed.

      See 300.

      The Xvid rip is much more faithful to the original than any of the H.264 rips. ALL the H.264 encoders are simply heavily blurring the picture, so you lose substantial detail. If you want that, you can do that before your Xvid encodes and get the same "feature".

      And I'm not a fan of Xvid, it's actually pretty over-hyped (but less so than H.264 these days). Libavcodec's MPEG-4 encoder is much, much better.

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    20. Re:Why bother? by mellon · · Score: 1

      Certainly it would be nice if Theora support were more widespread. However, with patents there are no guarantees - just because the author didn't patent it doesn't mean you won't get sued.

    21. Re:Why bother? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please, please, please do Bittorrent releases.

      You'd be the most popular pirate in the world.

    22. Re:Why bother? by toddestan · · Score: 1

      Not to mention most computers. You pretty much have to have a decent dual-core machine or a high end video card to play h.264 in .mkv containers, while Xvid/Avi will play on much older PCs.

    23. Re:Why bother? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showthread.php?tid=11790

      It's semi-actively developed, written in ugly bash (with optional bits of python) and released into public domain.

    24. Re:Why bother? by Yfrwlf · · Score: 1

      Any lawsuit would fail. XIF or whatnot has promised that they are open, that they are copy-left, royalty-free, community software. If they suddenly tried to sue others for using them, the court would laugh at them.

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  12. Fairuse Wizard by neorush · · Score: 1

    Fairuse Wizard. I gave acidrip a serious try and always had issues. Mostly the stupid subtitles were always wrong. Fairuse wizard always works for me and gives you "click and rip" or you can manually edit any codec parameter. Oh yea, and it lets you rip in any codec on your windows box, Xvid, Divx, whatever. I never had a problem with it. I really like being able to queue several DVDs at once then going to bed which made my initial archiving much much faster. I currently run this under XP Pro vmware on Ubuntu 8.10.

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  13. k9copy + k3b, my friend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Through much trial and error I've found that k9copy is the most reliable and functional program for ripping DVDs. You can customize what you want or don't want and it puts everything into VOB that can easily be burned as a video dvd in k3b. Happy Burning! :)

    1. Re:k9copy + k3b, my friend by NoobixCube · · Score: 4, Informative

      Seconded. k9copy is the best DVDShrink replacement there is, no contest. You can rip to video files, or to a whole compressed disc image, or a VIDEO_TS folder, and then just burn to a disc the way you'd burn anything.

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    2. Re:k9copy + k3b, my friend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      K9Copy is GREAT! I have tryed so many different apps to copy DVD's and the only one that works right for me is K9Copy. I especially like the fact that I can copy a DVD to an ISO file and set the file size I want. Even after shrinking the DVD the quality is as close to perfect as you can get.

    3. Re:k9copy + k3b, my friend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amen, brother.

    4. Re:k9copy + k3b, my friend by centuren · · Score: 1

      I was actually surprised to see this question on Ask Slashdot, since the k9copy / k3b combo is the fastest, most reliable free method I've found for ripping and burning DVDs across any operating system. You ca set k9copy to automatically burn with k3b when the rip is done, making it more or less a one-step process (there might be an OK dialog or two in there, I don't remember off hand).

      One of the reasons I've been using KDE as a desktop environment for a few years now is that I know I'll be regularly firing these applications up anyway, so I might as well have the KDE background noise there anyway.

    5. Re:k9copy + k3b, my friend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. Somebody apparently figured out how to get it to rip an entire DVD without segfaulting.

    6. Re:k9copy + k3b, my friend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Total agreement.

      However, when a DVD is scratched, sometimes K9copy will lockup while copying. When that happens, all bets are off. What really gets my goat, is that the same DVD will play pretty good in my TV's DVD player, but not on any computer I have.

      What do the DVD player manufacturers do that the K9copy group doesn't? They probably are just better at skipping over the bad data and not locking up. I dunno.

    7. Re:k9copy + k3b, my friend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Absolutly!!! K9copy is the best for doing it. You can rip to any format including iso's... and it is extremely easy to use.

    8. Re:k9copy + k3b, my friend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not only that, but I found k3b to do the best mpeg4 rips, with the least amount of fine tuning.

    9. Re:k9copy + k3b, my friend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree, Simple to use, feature loaded and I have never had a rip turn out badly.

    10. Re:k9copy + k3b, my friend by HermMunster · · Score: 1

      Segfaults are unique and specific to KDE. You won't find that in gnome. FYI, I use KDE 4.2 which is pretty cool and though I have segfaults at times it is no different than any other platform encountering problems.

      When you criticize others, look within.

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    11. Re:k9copy + k3b, my friend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      K9Copy was good but I didn't like the fact that it was resampling the video. If you just want to make an ISO duplication of your DVDs then I've found the "dvdbackup" that comes with (well, sudo apt-get install dvdbackup) the Ubuntu 8.10 is the best; about 10 discs in 250 that it couldn't rip due to crypto or other protection based errors.

    12. Re:k9copy + k3b, my friend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Absolutely. Though it's still not as good as DVD FAB and sometimes (about 2%) the best encoder in my opinion (h264enc) doesn't read the iso stucture in k9copy made isos properly, no idea why. But mostly it's fine and its definately fine for copying.

      FYI the KDE 3 version works well if you don't have KDE4.

      Take a look at http://k9copy.sourceforge.net/
      and http://h264enc.sourceforge.net/

    13. Re:k9copy + k3b, my friend by nybronx · · Score: 1

      Why did I have to scroll all the way down here for this easy solution. /. ers you guys are slipping.

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  14. For Windows by Da+Cheez · · Score: 1

    Try DVD Decrypter to rip disk images. Handy little program.

    1. Re:For Windows by acroyear · · Score: 1

      taking the CSS out of the files is one thing (which DVDDecrypter and DVDShrink do), but that's not necessarily solving the media file encoding problem because it still leaves us with a gigantic (4gig) iso file or collection of .nfo/.vob files.

      even with a decrypted system, i've still got similar problems to the original poster: any attempt to rip has sound of out sync (or skipping with silence blocks), or chapters it simply won't rip at all.

      i'm going to give automvk a try, myself and see if that's better than what i've got so far.

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  15. English by hansamurai · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    for example, when ripping 'Howl's Moving Castle,' one of the files it ripped to was in Japanese instead of English

    As much as I love Christian Bale, nothing wrong with the Japanese in this movie, of course, if you also didn't rip the subtitles, that might be an issue.

  16. Handbrake by gers0667 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Without a doubt, Handbrake will do the job. I used it on an Ubuntu box in tandem with a Mac OS X box to rip my entire DVD collection.

    http://handbrake.fr/

    I only encountered one problem, with the third disc of the Monty Python Fly Circus set.

  17. Image that sucker. by palegray.net · · Score: 1, Informative

    Plain vanilla dd is your friend. This is by far the simplest way of transferring DVDs around; I've used this method for years to archive discs to file servers.

    1. Re:Image that sucker. by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      k3b also has good _duplication_ capabilities. But what the original poster has neglected to mention is that he wants to strip off the encryption and region encoding so that he can play it anywhere or share with friends and leave off the troublesome bits. I've actually wanted to to do that when traveling, with my own DVD's so I could watch them with friends in another country, or when the 10 mninutes of enforced copyright notification and age-inappropriate previews would interfere with viewing of my purchased material.

      That requires some dynamic editing of the original content, not merely a byte-for-byte duplication of the material, and a good DVD editing and ripping program can be very useful for that.

    2. Re:Image that sucker. by physicsphairy · · Score: 1

      dd unfortunately does not support error correction. (Have you examined all of those backups for sound and video glitches? :p)

      And, anyway, it is usually the transcoding part that has issues, mostly because there are so many different transcoding options to choose from and test against. But I can't remember the last program I used that couldn't at least get a proper .iso copied to the drive.

    3. Re:Image that sucker. by sayfawa · · Score: 1

      Bad modding for this to be offtopic. Parent's solution works fine for personal viewing. Just doesn't get rid of the encryption, or shrink it. For years I did the GUI version of this, which is just right-clicking the dvd icon in GNOME and selecting "copy disk". Sure, the poster may have wanted something more portable, but seriously, when you want to copy something, nothing beats bit-for-bit.

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    4. Re:Image that sucker. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True that.

      Of course, the questioner was talking about css protected movie dvds, but dd is pretty practical for everything else.

      But...

      gzip is better, and it understands block devices, so you really don't need dd.

    5. Re:Image that sucker. by palegray.net · · Score: 1

      Good reply. I was brain-dead when I posted the original reply, although upon further consideration a portable media player that can handle raw ISO images would be an awesome toy in my book :).

    6. Re:Image that sucker. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seconded. This transfers copies bit by bit, no screwing around with lossy codecs or losing info between containers.

  18. Rips as fast as your DVD drive.... by rampant+mac · · Score: 3, Informative

    MakeMKV. No loss in quality (think Ogg). Simple, easy and high quality. Hope you have a big hard drive.

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    1. Re:Rips as fast as your DVD drive.... by andy19 · · Score: 2, Informative

      According to their site, MakeMKV isn't available for Linux yet.

    2. Re:Rips as fast as your DVD drive.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ogg is lossy?

    3. Re:Rips as fast as your DVD drive.... by Randle_Revar · · Score: 1

      >No loss in quality (think Ogg).

      What on earth does that mean? I have trouble believing that the use of a particular container format could result in lower quality.

    4. Re:Rips as fast as your DVD drive.... by evil_core · · Score: 2, Insightful

      MKV and OGG are both containers, and not audio/video formats! Another thing is that usually in OGG is Vorbis Audio stream.

    5. Re:Rips as fast as your DVD drive.... by testerus · · Score: 1
    6. Re:Rips as fast as your DVD drive.... by dlapine · · Score: 1

      You saw that this was released for Linux just yesterday??

      1. Thanks for the very timely info
      2. Have fun beta testing.

      That being said, hopefully the linux version will perform up to the standards of the other version.

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    7. Re:Rips as fast as your DVD drive.... by rampant+mac · · Score: 1

      Here's the link for the download: http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=224

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  19. dvd::rip by gsn · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    http://exit1.org/dvdrip/

    Never had a problem with it.

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    1. Re:dvd::rip by ekimd · · Score: 1

      Another vote for dvd::rip. I've used it tons of times and *never* had a problem.

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    2. Re:dvd::rip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never had a problem with it.

      I wonder if the submitter has had problems though. Maybe he says so.

    3. Re:dvd::rip by cfriedt · · Score: 1

      I agree - I've been using this software for close to a decade. It rocks. It's simple, effective, feature-rich, and easy to configure.

  20. Favorite right now is k9copy by physicsphairy · · Score: 4, Informative
    And to address some of the issues:

    dvd::rip always gets the language mixed up (for example, when ripping 'Howl's Moving Castle,' one of the files it ripped to was in Japanese instead of English),

    What makes you think it is dvd::rip that has the language mixed up? It is a Japanese movie and it is not surprising that the first audio track is Japanese. Fortunately you can select to rip a different audio track.

    Acidrip just plain isn't working for me (not recognizing a disc with spaces in its name, refusing to encode, etc.)

    I am betting you set it up wrong, since the disc name really shouldn't effect anything. It could be your ripper program should point at /dev/dvd (or equivalent), not "/mnt/Mounted File System"

    1. Re:Favorite right now is k9copy by henni16 · · Score: 1

      dvd::rip always gets the language mixed up (for example, when ripping 'Howl's Moving Castle,' one of the files it ripped to was in Japanese instead of English),

      What makes you think it is dvd::rip that has the language mixed up? It is a Japanese movie and it is not surprising that the first audio track is Japanese. Fortunately you can select to rip a different audio track.

      Yeah, that sounds more like a user error to me.
      I have used dvd::rip a lot and never had an issue with the languages, even when creating rips with more than one language.

    2. Re:Favorite right now is k9copy by supersloshy · · Score: 1

      What makes you think it is dvd::rip that has the language mixed up? It is a Japanese movie and it is not surprising that the first audio track is Japanese. Fortunately you can select to rip a different audio track.

      Actually, I set the language to English. And for some demented reason, dvd::rip rips my movies into multiple files of the exact same size (except for the last one) and one of the files was in the wrong language.

      I am betting you set it up wrong, since the disc name really shouldn't effect anything. It could be your ripper program should point at /dev/dvd (or equivalent), not "/mnt/Mounted File System"

      I always have it set to point to /dev/dvd, but that never works and claims it cant find anything. Only if that doesn't work I set it to /media/[insert mounted filesystem here].

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    3. Re:Favorite right now is k9copy by Eythian · · Score: 1

      I've ripped DVDs in the wrong language before too (I got Das Boot with French dialogue, that was strange.) I think some disks mis-identify the language of the audio track, particularly foreign-language ones, the primary track claims to be English but isn't. Now I always use the preview feature before I start the rip.

      AcidRip has (probably had by now) a bug that makes it fail if the DVD title contains spaces. It's just not quoting spaces somewhere when creating the output files. This is very easily worked-around: in the box that lets you edit the title, remove the spaces.

  21. These work for me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    k9copy and mencoder works for me 95% of the time

  22. Ripit4me by dostert · · Score: 1
    Sorry to repeat some of the other things said, but I haven't found a good Linux solution either. I still use my windows box to do it. I use RipIt4Me, which in turn uses DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink. Works on 99.9% of all DVDs. Only thing I had an issue with was Wall-E (chapters were all out of order for some reason!).

    In general, I go to http://www.videohelp.com/ [videohelp.com]

    for any information about ripping, converting, or anything to do with audio/video help (as the name would imply).

    1. Re:Ripit4me by loutr · · Score: 1

      Last I checked (maybe 1 year ago), doom9 was another very good resource. Concept explanations, tutorials for about anything transcoding-related, software comparison, ... Unfortunately it is very windows-centered.

  23. Could be the disc itself... by Bones3D_mac · · Score: 1

    I've been researching DVD ripping solutions for an upcoming project to finally end the horrors of constant disc swapping (Mac Classic relapse anyone?) lately, and one of the discussed issues that kept coming up was problems users had with ripping Disney published movies. Apparently they do something in the process of making the discs that introduces a ton of bad sectors into the finished disc as a form of copy prevention. Some rippers simply can't handle it.

    Another possibility is that you are trying to perform a rip straight from the DVD itself. In my experience, ripping directly from the disc itself fails about 75% of the time, even on a desktop machine. If this is the case with you, your best bet is to first find an app that can extract the Video_TS content from the DVD to your hard drive, then use whatever ripping software you have on the extracted dvd content stored on your hard drive to a video file.

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    1. Re:Could be the disc itself... by paxswill · · Score: 1

      The problem with Disney is they screw up the discs so it looks like there's ~100 titles, all with close to the correct running time. Granted, this isn't a linux solution, but on my Mac, the included DVD player will play the correct title. Note which is playing, then select the correct one in MacTheRipper/Handbrake.

  24. K9Copy by sayfawa · · Score: 1

    K9Copy. Once I found that, that's all I ever used. If it doesn't work, it's because it's one of those DVDs with intentional defects to stop rippers from ripping them. The idea is that a standalone, consumer dvd-player isn't sophisticated enough to fail on the defects, but a computer-based software player is. Or something like that. Unfortunately, Howl's Moving Castle was one of those, if I remember correctly. Had to reboot into Windows and use DVD Decrypter for that one.

    Anyway, K9Copy. If DVDshrink on Windows can do it, so can K9Copy, in my experience. It's simple and easy. It can do mpegs or just shrunken dvds. It's so good that the fact that it's qt based didn't bother this Gnome user.

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    1. Re:K9Copy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I second the vote for k9copy. Full DVD backup made easy.

  25. mencoder example by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this will rip title $TITLE to $FILENAME using the H264 video codec with bitrate $BITRATE (800 will give you about 1 GB for a 2-3 hours movie in acceptable quality) and put the subtitle ID 0 subtitles into the move (remove "-sid 0" if you don't need that)

    mencoder dvd://$TITLE -o $FILENAME -of lavf -ovc x264 -oac faac -x264encopts bitrate=$BITRATE:threads=auto -faacopts br=128 -sid 0 -spuaa 20 -quiet

  26. If all else fails... by Flynsarmy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If all else fails you could just WINE DVD Shrink. It works like a charm.

    1. Re:If all else fails... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seconded.

  27. Acid Rip by StormReaver · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Give AcidRip another try. I have yet to encounter a DVD it couldn't rip. More accurately, I have yet to encounter a DVD that mencoder, the encoding program behind most (all?) of the DVD rippers on Linux, couldn't rip. For some DVD's, it may appear as if AcidRip has malfunctioned, as the entire system can become unresponsive or very jerky for long periods of time, and the system log will fill with sector error messages.

    If you check the size of the video file, however, you will notice that it is slowly growing. This is mencoder making its way through the access restrictions on the disk, but encountering a lot of resistance. It is succeeding, though. For these disks, I let AcidRip run overnight.

    1. Re:Acid Rip by evilviper · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is mencoder making its way through the access restrictions on the disk, but encountering a lot of resistance.

      If you compiled MPlayer with Dvdnav support, you can specify the title number with dvdnav:// instead of dvd:// and you won't have to wait for your drive to time-out reading endless bad sectors.

      And BTW, this almost exclusively occurs on DVDs produced by Sony companies.

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    2. Re:Acid Rip by troll8901 · · Score: 1

      This is mencoder making its way through the access restrictions on the disk, but encountering a lot of resistance. It is succeeding, though. For these disks, I let AcidRip run overnight.

      Pardon me, but ...

      How often does your DVD drive work overnight?

    3. Re:Acid Rip by Randle_Revar · · Score: 4, Funny

      Very interesting. And I am shocked, _shocked_ to hear that Sony does disc mangling.

    4. Re:Acid Rip by stevied · · Score: 1

      I finally gave up on acidrip, because a lot of the time the a/v sync in the output seems to be substantially off. I really liked it because of its speed, but in the end I went with dvd::rip - in 1 pass cluster mode using our spare machine it actually runs a little bit faster..

    5. Re:Acid Rip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Lost seasons three and four box sets from Buena Vista have some kind of hideous copy protection. I wasn't trying to rip them, just play them on the DVD player under my TV. Every time it seeked to a new section (which it has to do about six times just to start playing the first episode) it was liable to fail. I thought my DVD player was crapping out but every DVD I've played since has been fine. Fucking Disney.

    6. Re:Acid Rip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you check the size of the video file, however, you will notice that it is slowly growing. This is mencoder making its way through the access restrictions on the disk, but encountering a lot of resistance. It is succeeding, though. For these disks, I let AcidRip run overnight.

      This is the sort of thing that really puts me off. Tools like DVD Decrypter combined with FixVTS were(*) excellent in capable hands for removing these kind of "mangled" dvd structures (often used as copy protection, with dummy cells somtimes strategically placed on damaged sectors) that made conventional DVD manipulation software puke their guts out and crash/hang. The fact that you have to wade through the copy protection for hours on end is going to hurt the lifespan of your drive BADLY and is a sure sign that your tools simply aren't capable enough. DVD Shrink was excellent for ripping standard compliant DVD's and handled CSS perfectly, it also had a remarkably intuitive GUI which made simple stream processing a snap. But if you fed it a "mangled" DVD it was useless. DVD Decrypter on the other hand was brilliant for some low-level editing and had the excellent feature of cell manipulation, so if DVD Shrink choked then DVD Decrypter was the next tool to come out. The worst thing about DVD Decrypter was that the output wasn't always playable (which is where FixVTS comes in), and the fact that the GUI was rather terrible and clunky. Also, IfoEdit and VobEdit were the editors of choice for very advanced stuff, they pretty much exposed everything on a DVD (but sadly didn't do CSS decryption), unfortunately they had GUI's so scary that grown men were known to burst out in tears of horror. With these tools I worked around every single copy protection scheme I came across back when I used to do this kind of stuff.

      The one thing I'd love to see on Linux is a GUI program that combines the functionality of DVD Shrink, DVD Decrypter and FixVTS (preferrably with an intuitive GUI like that of DVD Shrink) along with companion programs implementing the functionality of IfoEdit and VobEdit and you'd have the perfect set of tools for manipulating, ripping and creating DVD's (for both advanced and basic users alike). But no such luck. Hell, I'd write it myself if I was a half-decent programmer.

      * DVDShrink and DVD Decypter have both been abandoned. They can still be used, of cource, but bugs can't be fixed (do they even work on Vista?). I haven't ripped/manipulated DVD's for a long time so I'm a bit out of the loop.

  28. DVDShrink + Acidrip by anjilslaire · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Run the movie through DVDShrink via wine (works flawlessly) in Reauthor Mode, selecting the main movie + just the audio track you want (i grab the 5.0 audio for simplicity, then encode at No Compression, and rip to files on the hard drive. When you have the video_ts folder on your hard drive, run it through Acidrip at will. You can of course correct the folder name so there's no issues with acidrip loading the (now) unencrypted) files. I use this process to encode all my movies to xvid .avi format, so they can easily be streamed to my XBMC box via a samba share and viewed on the living room TV.

  29. Command Line Solution by Mr_2_718281828459045 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    vobcopy -i /folder/to/copy/to -m [executed where the dvd is mounted]
    mkisofs -dvd-video -udf -o desired_iso_name.iso /directory/to/put/iso
    Done.

    1. Re:Command Line Solution by BroncoInCalifornia · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This will rip:

      bronco@ubuntu:~$ dvdbackup -v -i /dev/scd0 -M -o Videos/

      And this will burn what was ripped:

      bronco@ubuntu:~$ growisofs -speed 1 -dvd-compat -Z /dev/scd0 -dvd-video Videos/[name of DVD]

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    2. Re:Command Line Solution by thuerrsch · · Score: 1

      This, my friend, is not ripping, it's copying to a disk image and definitely not what the submitter wants.

      I for one have had very few problems with dvd::rip, although I found it somewhat confusing at first. But it's a very rewarding experience when you put a little effort into it. Selecting the right audio track(s) is easy once you understand how the options work. Also be sure to RTFM.

      Handbrake isn't quite as flexible as dvd::rip, but easier to use and it can deliver good quality too, even in those rare cases where dvd::rip fails.

      Both programs, however, will probably fail on DVDs encumbered with heavy copy-prevention (through sector defects, structure violations, etc.). AFAIK there's no Linux equivalent for AnyDVD yet, so sometimes I still have to boot Windows for that.

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    3. Re:Command Line Solution by uigrad_2000 · · Score: 1

      vobcopy -i /folder/to/copy/to -m [executed where the dvd is mounted]

      mkisofs -dvd-video -udf -o desired_iso_name.iso /directory/to/put/iso

      Done.

      ^^^^^ Best answer.

      I usually would boot reboot into linux when I wanted to copy CDs, because it was so much easier than Windows.

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    4. Re:Command Line Solution by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 0

      Uh, he's asking about ripping the DVDs *TO PUT ON A MEDIA PLAYER*.

      Last I checked, no media players play ISO formats. I dunno, maybe I'm wrong and they added ISO support to iPods-- although it's a lot more likely you didn't read the question before popping off your smug, useless, CLI answer.

    5. Re:Command Line Solution by williamfrantz · · Score: 1

      Uh, he's asking about ripping the DVDs *TO PUT ON A MEDIA PLAYER*. Last I checked, no media players play ISO formats. I dunno, maybe I'm wrong and they added ISO support to iPods

      Well, iPod was never mentioned but supersloshy wasn't very specific. Many portable DVD players might be described as portable media players in which case, copying a DVD to a DVD-R would certainly be an option. For example, my own portable media player is a Philips DCP750 It's cheap, plays DivX from SD cards, video from iPods and (surprise) plain-ol-DVDs.

      Also CNet has a category for ISO Portable Video Players. There are a few.

    6. Re:Command Line Solution by Jearil · · Score: 2, Insightful

      MythTV using MythVideo will play .iso files just fine. Technically on the backend it's mplayer, vlc, or xine that's playing it, but still they play.

    7. Re:Command Line Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, he's asking about ripping the DVDs *TO PUT ON A MEDIA PLAYER*.

      Last I checked, no media players play ISO formats. I dunno, maybe I'm wrong and they added ISO support to iPods-- although it's a lot more likely you didn't read the question before popping off your smug, useless, CLI answer.

      LinuxMCE. Plays iso files.

  30. DVD::RIP by anonymousNR · · Score: 0

    is one of the best on Linux.
    gets your job done and has some neat features
    that commercial software provide

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  31. Problems finding OSS Lossless DVD ISO ripper by zorac80 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    All of the Linux solutions I have seen encode to another format. Because of lack of alternatives for ripping encrypted DVDs, my solution for years has been Windows DVD Decrypter. I just need an equivalent of DD for encrypted disks but searching only comes up with programs that re-encode. I would love to not power-on my Windows laptop for this.

    I prefer lossless iso rips for several reasons. Disk space is cheap these days so why not go with lossless. ISO files work in a greater variety of players and can be burned if need be. ISO is the only format that works with Apple DVD player on my Mac Mini.

    1. Re:Problems finding OSS Lossless DVD ISO ripper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      dvdbackup is your friend. If you really really really require it be packaged into a pretty ISO, then run "mkisofs -dvd-video" against the resulting directory.

    2. Re:Problems finding OSS Lossless DVD ISO ripper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      k3b rips to iso.

    3. Re:Problems finding OSS Lossless DVD ISO ripper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just do:

      dd if=/dev/$DVD_DRIVE of=~/$TITLE.iso

      and then watch in VLC (on whichever platform).

    4. Re:Problems finding OSS Lossless DVD ISO ripper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      vobcopy -i /folder/to/copy/to -m [executed where the dvd is mounted]
      mkisofs -dvd-video -udf -o desired_iso_name.iso /directory/to/put/iso
      Done.

    5. Re:Problems finding OSS Lossless DVD ISO ripper by zorac80 · · Score: 1

      I haven't found this works for encrypted disks

    6. Re:Problems finding OSS Lossless DVD ISO ripper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you *just* want to do that, run dvdbackup.
                Typical run is "dvdbackup -M". (-M tells it to get the whole disk, as opposed to only certain chapters or whatever.) It makes a directory with the DVD's name (which is something like "UNTITLED" more often than it should be...) then puts the VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS stuff in there.

                It's a big waste of space though... good for pulling DVDs into the system quickly to encode at the machine's leisure, not so good for keeping permanent copies -- MPEG2 is just too inefficient.
         

    7. Re:Problems finding OSS Lossless DVD ISO ripper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dvdbackup

      or the modified dvdbackupx to skip to defective sectors on sony discs.

    8. Re:Problems finding OSS Lossless DVD ISO ripper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      vobcopy + mkisofs, done

    9. Re:Problems finding OSS Lossless DVD ISO ripper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately, the only way to get an .ISO that you can burn to disc from a CSS-encrypted DVD is by ripping and re-authoring. If you just take an ISO image, it is going to be encrypted, and writing it to disc will break (due to the unwritable key portion of the blank DVDR)

      I'm not sure if you just took the encrypted disc and dd'ed it to a file whether or not the dvdcss library would be able to work with it to mount it.

      Note that k3b *can* copy an encrypted DVD - you could do that, and then straight dd-rip the copy. Also k9copy can copy and recode from a double-layer original to a single layer.

    10. Re:Problems finding OSS Lossless DVD ISO ripper by ADRA · · Score: 1

      All discs should work as long as there aren't errors on the disc. If there are, make sure to get dd to skip errors. I believe this should work out.

      There's still CSS on the ISO, so you'll need to play it through a player that can decrypt it, or find a tool to strip them out.

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    11. Re:Problems finding OSS Lossless DVD ISO ripper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are right, this is a real problem. There is no tool that would simply remove the CSS and output an .iso file. All the existing tools require one to remaster the resulting individual .vob files. I don't like this.

    12. Re:Problems finding OSS Lossless DVD ISO ripper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      tccat is your answer. It doesn't produce an .iso file, but it will produce an unencrypted MPEG-PS stream. I've never tried burning that stream directly to disc, but it might work.

    13. Re:Problems finding OSS Lossless DVD ISO ripper by pyite69 · · Score: 1

      This is trivial, I use dvdbackup to do this. It is especially easy if you start with Linux Mint which pre-installs all of the dvd decryption and codecs you will need.

  32. anydvd for windows by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

    sorry, but they HAVE worked out all the issues and they ARE good guys. they deserve the small license fee for the commercial programs.

    I use the anydvd program along with clonedvd. it just plain works and I have enough control to do what most people would need to do.

    I use unix mostly for work but when there are no world class copiers for unix, you seek other platforms.

    I don't get upset about what o/s my oscilloscope is written in. think of windows as a lower (support) layer to the anydvd app ;)

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    1. Re:anydvd for windows by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      I'd recommend AnyDVD as well. It's Windows-only, but they update often because new DVD copy protection comes up practically daily. I've found if I can't rip a DVD, it's because I have to update AnyDVD and it'll work.

      If you want a single file, CloneDVD, or if you want it in another format, CloneDVD Mobile (also by SlySoft) works great in a few clicks. It's not Linux at all, and there's no fiddling with a million options, but if you want DVD in, file out, it's a simple enough solution that Grandma can do it. Well, other than having to update frequently.

      Plus, paying helps keep Blu-Ray honest because they keep breaking Blu-Ray encryption as well...

  33. mplayer + avidemux by skwang · · Score: 1

    I use mplayer for ripping the DVD and avidemux for the transcoding the video.

    Specifically I use mplayer to dump the VOB files on the disk. Then I use avidemux, which in turn uses x264, ffmpeg, lamemp3, etc. to transcode the video to any format I want. This process is not a "one-click solution," but I find that going through the process for each DVD title manually gives fine-grain control over the final product.

  34. Rip, shrink and convert with K9Copy, burn with K3B by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    K9Copy is the best solution for DVD ripping in Linux I have seen yet.

    I used to use DVD Decrypter under Wine, and DVDShrink under Wine. That work good, but it can be tricky to set up.

    K9Copy is the same idea as DVDShrink. One stop decrypt, convert, shrink and re-encode. Don't forget to install libdvdcss.

    Once you have ripped, and converted, you use K3B to burn your discs. K3B is much like Nero, or at least what Nero was four years ago. I have found that all the things I need to do I can do in Linux these days, so I haven't run Windows at all for three years.

  35. Mencoder by chadruva · · Score: 1

    mencoder and one of its GUI frontends, it is all you need really, audio language selection, subtitles, lots of video/audio codecs, libdecss, etc, etc.

    It is a swiss army knife.

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    1. Re:Mencoder by Tokerat · · Score: 1

      Real men turn to Mencoder for all their manly encoding needs!

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  36. dvdbackup or dvdbackupx by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    dvdbackup.sf.net

    or dvdbackupx to backup some defective sony discs.

  37. Solution - Handbrake? by dimension6 · · Score: 1

    I remember ripping DVDs about 4 years ago in Linux, and it was a painless GUI affair (can't remember the exact software I used then, sorry). I'm using OS X now, and I usually use Handbrake, which is also available for linux. It, however, doesn't offer anything but hard-encoded subtitles, which is a big pain in a multilingual environment.

    In your case, however, I'd probably recommend just going ahead and learning Japanese. That way, you'd never have to worry about which audio/subtitle track you rip; both would do just fine.

  38. easy done by godrik · · Score: 1

    dd if=/dev/cdrom of=toto.iso
    everything in one file. no video or audio glitches.

  39. k9copy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try k9copy, which is for KDE but works in GNOME.

  40. Just mplayer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    mplayer -dumpstream -dumpfile Movie.mpg dvd://

    you will need to play with the settings to get the right subtitle and audio id to play, and optionally pass a number after "dvd://" to start with the right title.

    you can then use mencoder to reduce it (2-pass mpeg4 encoding, keeping existing audio). just put your audio and other settings after each command and it should get sucked in correctly.

    # mencoder -oac copy -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=1200:mbd=2:v4mv:qpel:trell=yes:autoaspect=1:vpass=1:turbo -vf expand=0:0:0:0:1 -passlogfile passfile.log -o /dev/null Movie.mpg
    # mencoder -oac copy -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=1200:mbd=2:v4mv:qpel:trell=yes:autoaspect=1:vpass=2 -vf expand=0:0:0:0:1 -passlogfile passfile.log -o Movie.avi Movie.mpg

  41. dd by mben · · Score: 1

    dd if=/dev/dvd of=dvd_image.iso
    No loss of quality, fast, simple.. Playback with mplayer -dvd-device dvd_image.iso dvd://1

    1. Re:dd by Ysangkok · · Score: 1

      try adding "conv=noerror" to make dd handle I/O errors

  42. OGMRip by MiKM · · Score: 1

    OGMRip has been my favorite for a while. The only downside, as of now, is that you have to manually tell it if the video source is progressive/telecined/etc (the author is working on that feature). However, I might have to try handbrake again. When I last tried it, there was no good Linux GUI.

  43. We're way off topic by symbolset · · Score: 1

    But for Windows, Gordian Knot (or for beginners, AutoGK) might have what you need. Or so I heard.

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  44. Similar Issue by Praeluceo · · Score: 1

    I was actually researching a very similar problem earlier today. I have a bunch of copies of DVDs that I own, and made in Linux using a combination of xine & dd, xine to grab the css keys, and dd to copy /dev/hdd. I lost one of my original DVDs and wanted to burn the DVD image to a new DVD-R DL so I can play it on a regular DVD player. Of course I realized too late that the CSS keys weren't copied with the rest of the title, and after many discussions and searches have found that what I'm now looking for is a CLI tool for removing region encoding, CSS, and disabled user options. I haven't found anything yet but I'm looking into the options DVD::RIP provide. Does anyone else have any software we can look at for removing these hindrances from our DVD images while leaving the actual content unmolested and suitable for burning as an iso back onto a DVD disc?

  45. lxdvdrip by __1200333 · · Score: 1

    I've had pretty good luck with lxdvdrip, a command-line based dvd ripper/shrinker.

  46. Why Matroska? by kinema · · Score: 1

    What benefits does Matroska provide?

    1. Re:Why Matroska? by BetterSense · · Score: 2, Informative

      Flexibility. Matroska is wildly popular in anime fansubbing because you can have an arbitrary number of audio tracks (english, japanese, Dolby surround, all the commentary tracks) and subtitles (including multiple versions with toggle-able onscreen translation of text). With the benefits that Matroska provides, it annoys me that people use anything else. You can literally put anything into a matroska container. It surprises me that people haven't found more ways to put malware in them.

    2. Re:Why Matroska? by civilizedINTENSITY · · Score: 4, Informative

      The Matroska Multimedia Container is an open standard free container format, a file format that can hold an unlimited number of video, audio, picture or subtitle tracks inside a single file.[1] It is intended to serve as a universal format for storing common multimedia content, like movies or TV shows. Matroska is similar in conception to other containers like AVI, MP4 or ASF, but is entirely open in specification, with implementations consisting mostly of open source software.

    3. Re:Why Matroska? by Randle_Revar · · Score: 5, Informative

      First of all, Matroska is an open spec, and most implementations (including the reference implementation, libmatroska) are Open Source (lgpl for libmatroska).

      Mkv supports B-frames, Variable bit rate audio, Variable frame rate, Chapters, and Subtitles. Not all containers support all of these, and AVI only supports any of those with workarounds, modifications or just nasty hacks.

      The mpeg container can't do chapters or subtitles, and obviously only holds media in the mpeg (1 or 2) format.

      MP4 has limited chapter and subtitle support and only deals with mpeg media (basically 1, 2, and 4 ASP/AVC).

      Ogg/ogm is designed for simplicity, streaming and specifically for Vorbis and Theora (although most/all other codecs can be used), while Mkv is meant as a completely general-purpose distribution container, and wants to replace avi, asf, mp4, mov, etc.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matroska
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_container_formats
      http://www.matroska.org/technical/guides/faq/index.html
      http://xiph.org/container/
      http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t10426.html

    4. Re:Why Matroska? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use avidemux because I usually want to cut parts out. I use XVid/AC3/OGM, because with most sources avidemux crashes on my machine when I create MKV.

    5. Re:Why Matroska? by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1
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    6. Re:Why Matroska? by Yfrwlf · · Score: 1

      Not that you should fear software patents, since they should be abolished, but yes, OGM and MKV are good completely legally open (in the U.S.) containers, Vorbis is much better than MP3 of course though I'm not sure about it vs. AC3, but what really needs more love are the actual video codecs. Theora is OKish but Dirac and others are where the future seems to be with open video codecs.

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    7. Re:Why Matroska? by Lesrahpem · · Score: 1

      To my understanding, Matroska is sort of meant to replace the physical DVD medium. Most of the things which can be done with a DVD can be done with Matroska. Chapters, subtitles, menu's, and all that goodness.

  47. AnyDVD + DVD Decrypter/ Windows solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was confronted with the same problem for my Mythbox/Home Theater System. After inconsistent rips from many open source alternatives I eventually ended up using Slysoft's AnyDVD in combination with DVD Decrytper. This combination allows for a very consistent RIP to ISO image that also plays quite nicely via VLC. The ISO is also convenient for burning back to DL DVD with very little quality loss.

  48. Mencoder+Handbrake by jmccarty · · Score: 1

    A shell script I use for iPod videos:

    echo -n "Please enter DVD name: "
    read name
    mplayer dvd://1 -dumpstream -dumpfile $name.vob ./HandBrakeCLI -i $name.vob -r 24 -B 128 -X 320 -Y 240 -I -o $name.mp4
    rm $name.vob
    echo "Completed"


    And if you want a regular DVD...

    echo -n "Please enter DVD name: "
    read name
    mencoder dvd:// -oac mp3lame -ovc xvid -xvidencopts pass=1 -o /dev/null
    mencoder dvd:// -oac mp3lame -ovc xvid -xvidencopts pass=2:bitrate=800 -o $name.avi

    1. Re:Mencoder+Handbrake by jmccarty · · Score: 1

      Sorry, typo on 3rd line of iPod, starting with ./HandBrakeCLI should be on new line.

  49. DivX players are cheap. MKV players are scarce. by williamfrantz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Most of the time, you still get XviD with MP3, in a AVI container.

    To be clear, "Xvid" is an encoder (like DivX) and it makes MPEG4 ASP video streams. Calling a file an "Xvid" file is like calling a photocopy a "Xerox". It might have been created with a genuine Xerox machine but just looking at the paper, you wouldn't know or care.

    MKV is still the bleeding edge. The reason AVI/ASP/MP3 is popular is because over 100 million DivX certified devices can play those files. DivX DVD players start around $30 at Wal-mart and are by far the cheapest way to move video from your computer to your living room.

    There are also "DivX Ultra" devices that play AVI/ASP/AC3 with chapters, interactive menus, multiple audio and multiple subtitles. Other than the ASP codec, DivX Plus offers most of what you want.

    Just recently "DivX Plus" was launched which is MKV/H.264/AAC/AC3. Some day DivX Plus devices might also cost $30 but for now MKV is only useful for people with a PC connected to their TV. Sure it has a lot of advantages over AVI/ASP/MP3 but broad compatibility trumps minor improvements in compression ratios.

  50. K9COPY is the one! by nudepenguindotnet · · Score: 1

    I didn't go through all the messages so if it's been mentioned I second it. K9COPY is the most awesome dvd ripper/copier out there. http://k9copy.sourceforge.net/

  51. DVD Decrypter by smoker2 · · Score: 1

    I use DVD Decrypter under Wine, and AutoGK to encode to xvid. AutoGK is just a wrapper around AviSynth and VobSub, using lame etc anyway, but takes care of all those nasty command line switches. Remember to use the hidden Ctrl+F9 menu for extra options.

  52. k9copy by mocoloco · · Score: 1

    Looks like I need to check out Handbrake, but I really like k9copy, much cleaner than dvd::rip, and more featureful than thoggen but still simple to use and effective.

  53. No need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Depending how much disk space you're willing to sacrifice...

    I use these, in this order:

      - Play the DVD. For some reason, sometimes, starting the rip process while the disc is still spinning after playing will work, whereas trying to rip it cold won't.

      - cp /dev/dvd foo.img
      - cp -a /media/cdrom/ foo
      - mplayer dvd://1 -dumpstream -dumpfile foo.vob

    The first just takes a disk image, which you can either burn verbatim (if you have media that will fit it), or play with mplayer (use the -dvd-device flag), or with VLC (open it as a dvd device). The second creates a directory -- mplayer's -dvd-device still works, and VLC used to explicitly allow you to choose a VIDEO_TS folder to play. The third method dumps a single title in raw vob form -- this is nice because it's purely WYSIWYG; you can drop '-dumpstream -dumpfile foo.vob' to see what it will look like, but I think it's going to include all languages/subtitles anyway.

    Honestly, terabyte storage is getting cheap enough that I don't much care. I can always re-encode it later if I run low on space -- or just delete a pile of South Park episodes. But half the time I try to use the commandline tools -- mencoder, ffmpeg, the mkv tools, or the ogg tools -- I seem to end up with AV sync messed up.

    One other thing you're going to want:

    mplayer -nosound -vo null -benchmark -vf cropdetect -dvd-device foo.img dvd://1

    Let it run for awhile, maybe through the entire movie -- it'll end up with a '-vf crop' argument that should work. That's for the annoying DVDs (or other videos) which add letterboxing to the video stream itself. Any decent video player on a computer can do that, too, but some of us have widescreen monitors, and if you do re-encode, you don't want to be wasting space on black bars.

  54. DVDDecrypter + WINE + VLC by w0mprat · · Score: 1

    DVDDecrypter works fine to extract the .VOB. VLC will convert VOB to most practical formats, slowly, but it works and the quality/options satisfactory.

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  55. mencoder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    # if you don't mind a command line
    man mencoder

    In particular you can set audio language, which you mentioned..

    Otherwise I use vlc's transcode feature.

  56. Handbrake by Theolojin · · Score: 1

    Handbrake is the hands-down option for DVD ripping under Linux. It has presets for iPod, PSP, etc. I have tried lots and lots of apps for this, including my beloved commandline. Nothing beats Handbrake. See http://handbrake.fr/ for more info.

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  57. Bandwidth: Station wagon. Backups by symbolset · · Score: 1

    Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of backup tapes. Or, in modern terms, NAS. Nothing replaces the obvious answer: Lend your NAS to a friend with equal quality standards for a few days, and let nature take its course. If that friend doesn't have your rip, back up the NAS to your media center and repeat until all your friends have offsite backups of each other's valuable media for disaster recovery purposes and you have what you want.

    Not that I would advocate watching the backups of DVD's that you don't have purchased media for... oh, no. That would be immoral. Not quite as immoral as charging $16 bucks for Waterworld: Director's Cut or Glitter [4:3], but immoral still.

    After all these years why are we even having this talk? Kids these days. /lawn, onion, etc.

    Since I'm already offtopic, I might as well go whole hog: using an old computer, the free OpenFiler app and a 4 port ESATA card you can turn 4 of these NAS+eSATA devices into RAIN: a Redundant Array of Independent NAS, for 27TB of massively parallel striped redundant hot swappable SATA goodness for about 6 grand served up as iSCSI. If you've been pricing that class of storage in the enterprise lately, you should now be going... wait, what did he say? Yes, I did say iSCSI SAN for $250/TB with redundancy, failover, striped performance and a scalable architecture that goes as big as you like. Yes it includes web management, clustering, unlimited snapshots, resizeable LUNs, static and dynamic replication and all the other SAN goodness. Though I'm not quite sure about data dedupe yet, at this rate for raw storage does it matter? Data dedupe is about making the most of that precious investment. If the investment is out of petty cash you don't need that kludge any more than you need Full Disk Compression, RLE, or any of those technologies built to get around the high cost of storage. Of course it runs in Linux, and of course it's available as a virtual machine, and naturally since the software is FREE there's no per-terabyte licensing. The license doesn't expire, run out, require keys or maintenance or accounting, it doesn't require a license server and when the array needs expansion or an upgrade in technology they can't tell you that you have to upgrade to the new version and buy licenses all over again. It's all about knowing what you're doing - a lot of the Top500 use OpenFiler to serve disk to their supercomputers.

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  58. Simple and easy by crustymonkey · · Score: 1

    mount the dvd
    vobcopy -m -o .

    Instant VIDEO_TS folder (well, maybe not "instant").

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  59. K3b by brap999 · · Score: 1

    K3b is a KDE based DVD/CD burning app, but it also has the ability to rip dvd's to AVI. I've been using it for along time to rip all my dvd's to AVI, and from there I can use other apps to convert the AVI to what ever format I want. Though usually I just stored the AVI on an external Disk for backup purposes.

  60. vobcopy and handbrake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Use vobcopy to copy and decrypt the disc. This is lossless.

    Use Handbrake to transcode the video to another format. This can be done off the disc directly, or from the vobcopied image.

  61. Try K3B by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    K3B is a KDE application that Ive found handles burning tasks nearly perfectly. Its part of the KDE, and you are *probably* on GNOME. It works just fine standalone though.

  62. HandBrake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't Know if it has been suggested but try HandBrake. I use it on my Mac and Ubuntu laptop. Really nice.

  63. Another possibility... by bziman · · Score: 1

    Disk space is so cheap that I don't bother "ripping" my DVDs -- I use the "dd" command to make a byte-for-byte copy of the DVD, and then play the iso directly. MPlayer will play the movie, though it doesn't do so well with DVD menus. I mostly use XBMC these days, and it handles DVD menus flawlessly.

    To rip: $ dd if=/dev/dvdrom of=My.Movie.iso

    To play: $ gmplayer -dvd-device My.Movie.iso dvd:///

    1. Re:Another possibility... by Terminus32 · · Score: 0

      Another choice would be Ogle, one of the first Linux DVD players which is good at playing DVD Movie ISOs with the menus.

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    2. Re:Another possibility... by Ysangkok · · Score: 1

      the ogle project is abandoned. it's better to use VLC or something similar. latest official release of ogle is from 2003. source: http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/dist/

    3. Re:Another possibility... by Ysangkok · · Score: 1

      try adding "conv=noerror" to make dd continue if there is a I/O error. also, the gmplayer frontend for mplayer is horrible imho. might as well use mplayer without the gui or SMplayer.

    4. Re:Another possibility... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, from the O'Reilly book, Mastering Cat,

      cat /dev/sr0 >some_dvd

      I forget why cat is better than dd in some cases.

      Most dvd's are dual layer and use about 8G each.

  64. dvdbackup by sdhoigt · · Score: 1

    I've used dvdbackup for a few years to make 1:1 copies of my DVDs (menus and all).

    Something like this works (adjust the '-i/dev/scd1' part point to your DVD)
    dvdbackup -v -M -i/dev/scd1 -o/"`pwd`"

  65. dvdrip by stonedcat · · Score: 0

    dvdrip works just fine for me, and is packaged it most modern distros.

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  66. SubCC ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anyone know of a GNU/Linux ripper which is able to rip SubCC and either add them to the ripped video or generate subtitles files ?

  67. 3 Tools under WINE by spymagician · · Score: 1

    As others have mentioned: You can try using the following 3 applications under WINE, and barring any emulation issues, you should be able to rip any DVD providing it is not physically damaged- DVD Shrink, DVD Fab, DVD Decrypter

  68. Handbreak by motang · · Score: 1

    Handbrake they have .deb file on their site and it works like a charm.

  69. H264/vorbis/MKV do-it-all Perl script by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A Perl script that handles most aspects of transcoding...

  70. K9Copy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why has no one mentioned it yet?! Arguably the best DVD ripper for Linux (uses libvamps for DVD9-to-DVD5 compression like DVD Shrink). Lets you pick either the whole disc or lets you pick only the main title and/or remove annoying trailers, etc. Also offer's encoding to a file via mencoder with profile support.

  71. vobcopy + transcode by speedtux · · Score: 1

    If you want a GUI solution, you can use Handbrake.

    If you want a Linuxy solution, something that is a little tricker to set up but saves you time overall, you may want to use vobcopy and transcode.

  72. K3b /wine dvdshrink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    K3b rips fine.
    The only thing missing is shrinking.
    wine and dvdshrink
    with disk so cheap who need to burn/shrink them anyhow..

  73. k9copy is basically the best for Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stick in the DVD, choose the size + parameters and off you go.

    http://k9copy.sourceforge.net/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K9copy

    It's very nice if you want to watch your movie with your portable mp3/video player.

  74. What about The Teaching Company DVDs? by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We have almost 100 DVDs purchased from The Teaching Company (courses in astronomy, geology, math, physics, etc.)
    So far, we have no tool for easily ripping them onto our LAN server (sorry, no P2P). I have tried acidrip, dvd::rip, handbrake, thoggen, and VLC's convert function. None of them can rip these DVDs properly, but we can rip any other DVD we have with any of these tools.

    With a DVD from TTC, all of them just see one title with a length of 43 seconds - the FBI warning. The DVDs play fine in VLC or any other player, but the structure information (IFO file?) is deliberately corrupt or obfuscated, on every single TTC DVD!

    If I use chapter mode in dvd::rip or handbrake, or use convert mode in VLC, then individual "chapters" can be ripped, one at a time. Unfortunately, the chapter structure also appears to be obfuscated. Chapters in the table of contents according to handbrake or dvd::rip vary from a few seconds to 15 minutes in length, whereas the actual chapters/lessons when played are all about 25 minutes. Moreover, to assemble the chapters/lessons as viewed, from the individual "chapters" as ripped, one must combine them in a nearly random non-numerical-sequence order, and often split a ripped "chapter" between two actual chapters/lessons. It's labour-intensive and very annoying, since what we're trying to do is a legitimate fair-use (format shift for play on PCs, DVDs then left on shelf).

    Does anyone have a ripping solution which works easily on DVDs from The Teaching Company, or on other DVDs with an obfuscated table of contents?

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    1. Re:What about The Teaching Company DVDs? by hoyty · · Score: 1

      Try DVDFab, it has Path Player to find hidden titles. Specifically to deal with this issue.

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    2. Re:What about The Teaching Company DVDs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try AnyDVD (trial available) and DVDShrink on top of that. Rip it to an ISO or IFO/VOB. I have done more than 700 commercial DVD with this (yes I own them) and this has yet to fail me. Yes, it's a Windows solution but the results play just fine on Linux using XBMC...

    3. Re:What about The Teaching Company DVDs? by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      While AnyDVD is certainly useful for those problem DVDs that
      don't even rip correctly in other Windows tools, it is gross
      overkill for the average rip (even in Linux).

      Of about 1000 DVDs, I have only encountered about 18 cases where
      mplayer couldn't extract the content. Half of those were from the
      same batch of disks, made by the same source and bought at the
      same time from the same retailer.

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    4. Re:What about The Teaching Company DVDs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DVD Shrink is the best software to actually rip DVDs. You can pick and choose which parts of the DVD to rip and then rip it to a VOB file. Then I use Handbrake to re-encode that VOB to mp4 to stream on my home network. Works great.

    5. Re:What about The Teaching Company DVDs? by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Have you tried mencoder? Anything mplayer can play, mencoder should be able to rip. It will take some work getting the command set up right, but once you do it, it should be easy to batch 100 DVDs with a small shell script.

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    6. Re:What about The Teaching Company DVDs? by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      I've seen a few cartoon collection DVD's that I have to go in and select individual tracks to rip, rather than try and rip the entire DVD. If these DVD's are like some college course ones I supported about 10 years ago (Linux server with a bunch of CD drives hanging off of it), the menu system is a bit more complex than a standard movie DVD. Unfortunately, might take some time with one of them to find the correct tracks to rip and such.

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    7. Re:What about The Teaching Company DVDs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not linux but dvdfab keeps very up to date
      with copy protection schemes

    8. Re:What about The Teaching Company DVDs? by Taxman415a · · Score: 1

      Try dvddecrypter running on wine if the above options don't work for you. It can rip to an iso file that most players can play directly. Your other option is to try looking around at doom9.org and asking on their forums if you can't find what you're looking for.

    9. Re:What about The Teaching Company DVDs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I second this - any time I have a disc that DVDShrink can't deal with, I use DVDFab HD Decrypter to extract the whole thing. It seems to clean it up nicely, then I can run DVDShrink on the extracted files.

    10. Re:What about The Teaching Company DVDs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      try DVD Catalyst (www.a3vs.com) and enable the start scene/stop scene checkmark.

    11. Re:What about The Teaching Company DVDs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An easy solution would be to convert these to .iso images. Note that I haven't tried it the TTC DVDs.

      VLC can read image files directly, and usually works fine.

    12. Re:What about The Teaching Company DVDs? by Trixter · · Score: 1

      A windows PC connected to the LAN, and DVDDecrypter. Assuming the DVD doesn't attempt any silly anti-copy stuff, just rip an ISO image. I've backed up my purchased DVDs this way; to play them, just open the .ISO with VLC player. I've been doing this for over three years, so I know it works well.

  75. Learn Japanese by bigblackcar · · Score: 1

    It's high time you start learning Japanese. That's the best solution.

  76. x264 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://h264enc.sourceforge.net/

  77. Disney vs The Teaching Company by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 2, Informative

    The problem with Disney is they screw up the discs so it looks like there's ~100 titles, all with close to the correct running time.

    I've used that technique with our Disney DVDs, and it works fine.

    The Teaching Company seems to take the opposite approach. They have only one title which contains the FBI warning, 43 seconds long. That's it, there are no other titles listed. There are many chapters listed in the structure, but not contained in any title, and with bizarre lengths. They are also in random numerical sequence and don't correspond to the chapters/lessons as viewed.

    I'd really like to find a solution which reads the DVD structure the same way it is read while being played - i.e. using the information in the stream and/or menus, not just the structure as given in the table of contents. All of these DVDs play fine in VLC or mplayer or anything else, just the contents information is obfuscated making them near-impossible to rip.

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    1. Re:Disney vs The Teaching Company by kryptkpr · · Score: 1

      Assuming you've got access to a Windows machine (which is sadly the only platform for which 'hardcore' dvd ripping tools are written for), you should be able to attack the disk with a combination of AnyDVD (installs a device driver that will remove all known protection) and vStrip.

      A word of warning: vStrip is NOT an easy tool to use (there are guides all over the place though), but it's by far the most powerful DVD ripping software I have ever found.

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  78. Handbrake by cybereal · · Score: 4, Informative

    Available in a linux flavor, I ripped 462 movies for my private use (streaming from my 1tb hdd to an apple tv) from DVD last fall. At the time Handbrake used its own decoder which didn't always work for certain types of highly standard breaking locking schemes (read: broken dvd's). However the recent version, at least for my mac, has no troubles as it is using VLC player for the dvd decoding engine.

    I found the best success using constant quality, around 59% plus a bunch of other handy settings I found under the "best settings and why" section in the forums for handbrake.

    I strongly recommend this avenue as the results are magnificent AVC encodes in iTunes, iPod, iPhone, PS3, etc. compatible container and they are literally indistinguishable from their DVD counterpart (save a few exceptionally difficult to rip movies like Pi). Good software, and free too.

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  79. DVD::RIP by OliWarner · · Score: 1

    http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/ Looks a little intimidating at first but considering its immense filtering, output and batch-clustering options, it's a pretty simple interface.

  80. A couple of things by AnalPerfume · · Score: 1

    You could try vobcopy from the CLI with the command vobcopy -l which looks at the single largest title which tends to be the movie, and copies it to the HD as a single .vob which can then be opened in either Avidmux, OGM, AcidRip or Handbrake. Some can work direct from the DVD but it is slower. I've noticed some copy protection like parts of chapters repeating on the Matrix, and the ONLY application to spot th movie is 2:10 correctly is OGM, all the rest fell for the copy protection and gave files at 2:20mins. I have not tried Handbrake yet but AcidRip is certainly poor, OGM is simple but produces good results and Avidmux is a much bigger toolbox than I'd ever need. Avidmux is damn handy for resizing video files.

  81. Why on slashdot? simple answer is easy to find by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Why is this on slashdot? Google "linux rip dvd" for many many solutions.

    If you are a button clicker, use Handbrake. Download the binary or build from source.

    If you are a linux user, use mencoder. RTFMP

  82. BR ripping for Linux by Yfrwlf · · Score: 1

    Is what many users would like to see. ^^

    Not that you should support buying discs that make it difficult to view their contents and require giving Hollywood more money in order to view those precious movies which you purchased and instead should download them all from someone else who has ripped them, but still.

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  83. OGMRip by RoCKeTKaT · · Score: 0

    OGMRip uses mencoder, part of mplayer. Some versions of mplayer have issues and the audio is always out of sync, same with ffmpeg. Just try a new version or older one.

  84. k9copy by AlgorithMan · · Score: 1

    k9copy

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    The MAFIAA is a bunch of mindless jerks who will be the first up against the wall when the revolution comes
  85. I use cp -r by bcmm · · Score: 1

    If you want lossless, you could always just copy the files on the DVD to your hard disk. Mplayer and various other programs can play such a directory exactly as if it were an actual DVD (but with less seek time, obviously).

    --
    # cat /dev/mem | strings | grep -i llama
    Damn, my RAM is full of llamas.
  86. Ubuntu?The Gnome desktop sucks... by settantta · · Score: 0, Troll

    Your real problem is that you are trying to use Ubuntu + Gnome = no chance. Try using a decent distro with KDE - I've always found K3B works perfectly every time, even on encrypted DVDs

  87. Probably the result of copy protection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They fuck about with the disc definition and the sectors et al so that ripping the vob files and decrypting them will fail.

    Rather like the Safedisc protection schemes, IIRC. At least the older ones, that did the same to the CD to stop it being copyable.

    This would require a Linux port of something like AnyDVD to linux, where it has a database and heuristics to work out how the DVD format has been fucked about to make it uncopyable.

    It's not the ripper, it's the copy protection, over and above CSS.

  88. AutoMKV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    AutoMKV under Wine works well for me, for both DVD and high-def discs.

  89. Acid::Rip by David+Gerard · · Score: 1

    Acid::Rip splits the disc up by feature, rather than by VOB. Does very nicely for me.

    The interface is horrible - "user friendly" is not taking every command line option and making a button for it. Setting bitrate for each feature and fragment in turn is a PITA.

    But apart from that it's the best and easiest I've found.

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    http://rocknerd.co.uk
  90. transcode utilities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you're not afraid of the commandline, you might give transcode a try. Although the full program will transcode your material into lower-grade re-encoded crap, the separate helper utilities will do exactly what you (well, what I) want.

    tccat -i /dev/dvd : produces an unencrypted stream matching the data on the DVD (on stdout)
    tcdemux -A [ids] : "filters" the stream so that only the given stream IDs will be in the output file (0x80=first audio stream, 0xE0=file video stream)
    tcextract : extracts the contents of (multiple) streams (similar to tcdemux, but without the PS headers)

    To go further, you can use tcscan do determine which stream IDs are present and what content they have, and with the utilities subtitle2pgm and pgm2txt you can convert VOB-based subtitles into .srt-based subtitles.

    Transcode Wiki

  91. ourobourous by pimpimpim · · Score: 1
    Indeed, what good is an answer to a question when it actually brings you something.

    I have many times googled for technical questions where the first result in google was a forum post with the only answer: "why don't you google it". This is partly the fault of google, obviously it ranks the pages incorrectly, but it is also the fault of the person who apparently took the energy to answer, but left it completely useless. Really, if you're helping a newby with a question, give at least just a few better keywords then the ones in the original question. The internet will thank you.

    --
    molmod.com - computing tips from a molecular modeling
  92. Re:Oh! hohohohoh! by shentino · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Taking a likely -1 Offtopic mod for violating "Do not feed the trolls"... ...But I have to speak on this.

    Companies that want to be commercial dickheads and force you to pay for content you already own are at fault here, not linux.

    First we have the patent holders on the codecs. They get royalties, both from the media stampers that produce the media, as well as the companies that make the hardware that plays said media. You pay for both of these, on top of the part of the sales $$$ that actually goes to the companies that create the content. A classic case of rent seeking, let alone how much the actual creative people themselves are getting screwed over and are effectively sharecroppers using the company roster as a field.

    Then we have the content producers themselves. By making outlandish EULA's and enforcing abusive DRM, they force you to buy the same material multiple times if you want to move it around between formats. That's what DRM does, it makes it a pain in the ass to do anything but bend over and pay $$$ for multiple copies of the same stuff, just in different formats. Yet more rent seeking.

    Linux, by being FOSS, is shut out in the cold because it doesn't dirty itself with such stupid palm-greasing fiddle faddle.

    Unfortunately, if you're a saint in a corrupt world, you will be left out of lots of stuff if you aren't willing to play dirty.

    So rant and rave all you like, but don't blame linux. It's just an innocent bystander in the civil war that is corporate america.

    Personally, I'm glad linux isn't getting involved in it.

  93. Handbrake not so good at the end of the day. by Chrispin · · Score: 1

    I liked the look of Handbrake so downloaded it [Linux Mint] and installed it OK. Made sure the other required files were installed and did a test conversion using a random DVD. The process said it would take over 2 hours and when it had only achieved 75% in 3 hours I binned it. Sure I was using a Lap Top of recent vintage but 3 hours is of no use to me. I also downloaded the window$ version and ran a similar test concurrently with the Linux install. This time it was going to take 4 hours and I binned this version at 3 hours too. Dual Core processor and 4GB RAM this time so it looks like DVDFab has nothing to worry about, so far anyway. Chris.

    1. Re:Handbrake not so good at the end of the day. by Prototerm · · Score: 1

      That's why you should have tried it early in the morning, and not the end of the day.

      --
      "My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right." --Senator Carl Schurz (1872)
    2. Re:Handbrake not so good at the end of the day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This just in: Ripping and encoding video takes longer than just ripping!

  94. There's nothing wrong with dvd::rip by ido50 · · Score: 0

    dvd::rip is simply excellent. There's nothing wrong with it, and I've never had any problem with the 200+ DVD's I have ripped with it. If you get the wrong language, it's either your fault (selecting the wrong language, improper use) or the DVD's fault (bad language titles, etc.).

  95. lxdvdrip by Paralizer · · Score: 1
    lxdvdrip is a one line DVD5 ripper.
    1. Put DVD in drive.
    2. Open terminal.
    3. Type "lxdvdrip"
    4. Press enter.
    5. Wait a while.
    6. Done.

    It will rip it as a DVD5 and also offer to make a backup copy (or copies) at the end if you wish. I just keep the DVD5 stuff it makes and don't make copies though since I'm just using it for central storage.

    One thing I did notice though is that I can't even play some DVD's on my linux box, so how can I rip it? Even with the patched libdvdread I get some DVDs that are just all scrambled and I can't make a backup. Oh well.

  96. DMCA in 2/3 of Anglophonie by tepples · · Score: 1

    How many CD/DVD burning apps have come out in the past 5 years but we still don't have a DVD ripping tool worth a damn?

    Most big-budget movies are produced in the English language, and among industrialized countries with English as the primary language, the one with 2/3 of the population has both software patents and the Digital Millennium Copyright Act in force.

    1. Re:DMCA in 2/3 of Anglophonie by myz24 · · Score: 1

      I don't have any trouble finding one for Windows

  97. HandBrake + VLC by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

    It's a bit slow, but I don't typically sit around and wait for it to rip.

    --
    There are two types of people in the world: Those who crave closure
  98. K3B by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Create an ISO image of the disk in K3B.
    Mount the ISO and watch it with Xine or whatever.

    You can transcode with FFMPEG too.

    This was a stupid question...

  99. Handbrake by MBGMorden · · Score: 1

    Late in the discussion yes, but on both Mac and Linux I've found Handbrake to be great for my ripping needs. The Windows version doesn't have output previews which severly limits it's usefullness to me.

    --
    "People who think they know everything are very annoying to those of us who do."-Mark Twain
  100. HandBrake! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HandBrake is the best!

  101. Handbrake by Akita24 · · Score: 1

    Handbrake http://forum.handbrake.fr/http://forum.handbrake.fr from them or one of the PPAs or DVD95 if you just want to go from a double-sided to a single-sided DVD.

  102. HANDBAKE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://handbrake.fr/?article=download

    You want the GUI.

    What is wrong with you people, stop arguing and just friggin suggest the real deal, handbrake.

  103. Handbrake is the way to go. by Heishiro · · Score: 1

    Don't know if you want to do the same as I do.. I rip my DVD's to an XVID avi file using Handbrake. I don't need to create a copy of my DVD, cause I just play the video i ripped from my PS3 wirelessly using a PnP Server (MediaTomb). I can rip a DVD in an hour more or less. Hope this helps

  104. k3b by whitroth · · Score: 1

    Haven't done any ripping, mostly recording, and copying music, but k3b works very nicely, and is ridiculously easy to use. I'm happy with it.

              mark

  105. Disney DVDs Chapters Rip in Wrong Order by JMcJames · · Score: 1

    Many Disney DVDs attempt to fool DVD rippers by having a fake chapter file that puts the chapters out of order. For these discs, you need to find and load the correct chapter file.

    I've had this problem with Bolt and with Wall-E, though I can't speak specifically to Howl's Moving Castle.

    So, this problem, at least, may not be the fault of your Linux rippers.

  106. I had the same issue by freetolio · · Score: 1

    Days ago I realized that the built-in apps couldn't rip a DVD. My solution: http://pcprob.blogspot.com/2009/04/rip-encrypted-dvds-under-linux-ubuntu.html is geared toward Ubuntu. After installing lsdvd and ddrescue (1 command) you can rip any DVD to an iso with just 2 commands. This solution rips to one file, preserves all audio tracks (no sync issues), preserves all subtitles, and it is lossless.

  107. HandBrake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HandBrake both cli and gui are excellent dvd rip programs. They have defaults to automatically set the appropriate flags for a variety of platforms (though the psp one needs updating since it now supports h.264), They let you select the title and language even subtitling.

  108. Languages by catbertscousin · · Score: 1

    dvd::rip always gets the language mixed up (for example, when ripping 'Howl's Moving Castle,' one of the files it ripped to was in Japanese instead of English)

    Is there any other way to watch a Miyazaki?

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    No good deed goes unpunished. - Avon, Blake's 7
  109. simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I haven't read the other replies, but gosh dude, vobcopy works just fine. Do some more research next time.

  110. You have 2 choices - both under Windows by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 5, Informative

    What nobody will tell you is that to prevent some older, free ripping tools from working, some studios (mostly for DVDs released in region 1 - USA and Canada - but also sometimes seen elsewhere) use a copy protection method called ARCCOS or something similar to protect their DVDs. The only rippers I know of that can defeat this are DVDFab HD Decrypter (they have a free version available) and AnyDVD (don't know if there is a free version or only the commercial version). Both are updated regularly to deal with new variations in ARCCOS. ARCCOS uses deliberately placed bad sectors on the disc to thwart copying. It's quite complicated, but it relies on a difference between how standalone DVD players and PCs read discs to thwart copying attempts. DVDFab and AnyDVD get updated because they are produced in countries that are currently free from MPAA enslavement. I am unaware of any programs other than those that can correctly rip DVDs and those only work on Windows. I don't keep up with Handbrake as it's mostly for Mac fanboys (but they do have a Windows version), so I have no idea if Handbrake is actually able to deal with ARCCOS or not. The people I know who use it do not rip DVDs that I know to use ARCCOS, so I have no idea if Handbrake can even deal with ARCCOS correctly or not.

    1. Re:You have 2 choices - both under Windows by esarjeant · · Score: 1

      This is an important observation -- we have quite a few discs that simply cannot be copied as a result.

      My best success has been with VLC, although DVDFab works fairly well also. Unfortunately, there are a few discs that we can't even *play* in the DVD-ROM drive on any computer. This level of "protection" is starting to border on ridiculous. While our new $74 DVD player seems to play them fine the media center PC is now a virtual brick when it comes these discs.

      I can't believe we had to buy a separate player just to watch certain movies. Be wary of the movies you backup, if it's a Sony disc you might want to think twice before you even bother to purchase it.

      --

      Eric Sarjeant
      eric[@]sarjeant.com

    2. Re:You have 2 choices - both under Windows by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      I have seen DVDs with bad sectors in them. I can't tell you if they were ARCCOS or not, but I do know that my Sony DDU1621 DVD-ROM drive has yet to meet a disc that it can't turn into a good ISO. I will be very sad when this drive bites the dust.

  111. Mencoder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mencoder from the command line would be suitable perhaps? I haven't used it for dvd-ripping personally, but I know it can do that, and it's quite reliable for things I have used it for.

  112. Ogmrip audio out of sync by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know the ogmrip audio out of sync problem. It is caused by the fact that NTSC dvds are sometimes encrypted with a mix of telecine and progressive. Clearly if you rip European PAL dvds you will never experience that problem. As far as I know, ogmrip 0.12 does not handle it, but the developer fixed that in the 0.13 version, so just download the subversion version and give it a try. Ogmrip has been my choice for quite sometime now.

  113. mencoder does rock by Kludge · · Score: 1

    There is nothing AV-wise that I have not been able to do w/ mplayer/mencoder.
    Of course you do have to read the documentation, and try the options, but the power is yours.

  114. cp? by ArmorFiend · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't understand why people want to "rip" with anything more complex than "cp /dev/cdrom GoneWithTheWind.iso". When you play back the file, you get the exact same quality and options as on the DVD. Other than choosing a filename, it is zero-click. What am I missing?

    1. Re:cp? by LarryRiedel · · Score: 1

      What am I missing?

      Mitigating copy protection?

    2. Re:cp? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dd!
      dd if=/dev/dvd of=dvdimage.iso

      Bit-to-bit copying and better for block devices than cp.

    3. Re:cp? by gregconquest · · Score: 1

      You're missing a few GB of hard disk space for each DVD you've ripped.

  115. Re:DivX players are cheap. MKV players are scarce. by kylemonger · · Score: 1

    To be clear, "Xvid" is an encoder (like DivX) and it makes MPEG4 ASP video streams. Calling a file an "Xvid" file is like calling a photocopy a "Xerox". It might have been created with a genuine Xerox machine but just looking at the paper, you wouldn't know or care.

    You hope.

  116. Handbrake by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

    Handbrake is a decent ripper. Has both CLI and GUI controls, can be scripted, etc. Has lots of presets for whatever use you want from your DVD's (PSP, web, Apple TV, iPod, HD-TV, etc.).

    --
    I drank what? -- Socrates
  117. Burn360 by redtux1 · · Score: 1

    How about using dvd(un)author
    I have a gui app which wraps this (amongst) loads of other stuff at http://burn360.sourceforge.net/
    Called obviously enough Burn360

  118. Thoggen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was surprised to read through the comments and not see Thoggen http://thoggen.net/ mentioned. It's pretty much as simple as you can get, just check which titles you want and adjust a quality setting. It makes an ogg/theora video (.ogv). You can later use mencoder to convert it to an mpeg or some other format.

    I've been using it for a while since I didn't find acidrip or handbrake in my distro repositories (lazy).

  119. Ubunut.... by bagofbeans · · Score: 1

    Gotta ask... is an Ubunut someone who really hates other distis?

  120. mencoder & command line by pyite69 · · Score: 1

    I went through this same agony a few years ago, and I ended up with an mencoder command line that does a good job.

    The only problem is that it can't auto detect the media you are encoding, which is mainly a problem with frame rates. e.g. some are 30000/1001 and some are 24000/1001.

  121. Why does Linux hate compatibility? by efalk · · Score: 1

    OK, seriously, what is it with the Linux community and arbitrarily renaming packages? It's like they *heard* of software compatibility, but decided they wanted no truck with it.

    Recently they renamed "libglib1.2" to "libglib1.2dbl" in Debian (although the dev library was not renamed), breaking anything linked against glib. For what possible purpose was this done?

  122. Tuxrip by AllGNU · · Score: 1

    Tuxrip is a Linux bash script for ripping and encoding DVD in mpeg4 format (XviD, libavcodec). http://tuxrip.free.fr/apropos_en.html --

  123. Fast and easy to use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://handbrake.fr/

    Only thing I have found that does fast, easy DVD ripping to my ipod. Supports all generation of iPods as well as many other formats. No mucking with wine, works great natively.

    K9Copy works decently as well, but ipod support was spotty.

  124. Related question by dramaley · · Score: 1

    What software can rip DVDs while preserving the subtitles correctly? I don't mean HandBrake's style of "hard burning" the subtitles into the image. I want all of the subtitle tracks copied and stored in the same MKV container as the video and audio track(s) so that i have the option of turning the subtitles on and off just as i do with the original DVD.

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    ----- "I'm still sane on three planets and two moons."
  125. DVD ripping in general by Majestic+Fear · · Score: 1

    When I read this question it sounded like a question I had when I first got into ripping DVDs. After researching interfaces I settled on OGMRip as I didn't want all the bells and whistles that other rippers like dvd::rip offers. I also found myself needing to get a better understanding of video recording and playback such as interlacing and progressive. I qualify this by saying this was self study up to the point where I was able to successfully rip DVDs 95% of the time so if I misuse terminology you were warned. I should also say that this is for NTSC DVDs.

    With the option "Ensure A/V Synchronization" checked in OGMRip and an understanding of how the DVD was created I've not had many issues. The only trouble I get is from the not so well mastered workout videos which are interlaced. I have two such videos and both had audio synchronization issues. I was able to fix one by going into the Matroska video container I created and set a delay, the other I just haven't gotten around to messing with yet. One other issue I'll run into with OGMRip is if the DVD isn't quite right it will fail ripping it prior to encoding. For this I just use dvdbackup (dvdbackup -M -i /dev/dvd -o /directory/to/save/to) and then point OGMRip to the DVD directory on the harddrive.

    The one URL I strongly suggest looking at is http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/menc-feat-telecine.html#menc-feat-telecine-ident as it briefly explains the various ways a video is originally recorded and the DVD mastered along with how to determine this with your video. With most popular DVDs released today they are typically progressive and so when it comes time to rip it I pick how I want it encoded and then check progressive and away it goes. When encoding I use a matroska container, keep the original audio, use x264 for video, and based on the length of the video the rule of thumb of 700MB per hour (increasing if I'm pulling several audio tracks). For your portable player these are probably not the settings you would use.

    So the point I'm wanting to make is having the basic understanding of the entire process from recording to the final encoding is what will make any one of the tools work for you. You can then decide how much control you want in the ripping/encoding process. For me the end product is what I want, something I can stream to my TV, not the joy some get spending lots of time getting all the options set for each DVD.

  126. K9copy by arunsub · · Score: 1

    I'm using K9Copy for a long time and it's pretty good both in GNome and in KDE, though it's a KDE application.

  127. Dvdshrink by Taxman415a · · Score: 1

    But he wants a single file as output though so dvdshrink won't work.

    That's not true. By default dvdshrink creates the video_ts and audio_ts folders, but if you select the option, you can choose an iso image as the backup target. Pretty much every media player on Linux can now play a DVD iso image directly. Dvdshrink running on Wine works pretty well, though it crashes after it's done and the previews don't always work very well. The output is much higher quality than what K9copy will do last I checked though, so so far that's what I use for the unencrypted DVDs that I watch. It doesn't do decryption, so I suppose you'd have to get something like dvddecrypter first if you had an encrypted DVD. But I don't bother to watch those. :)

    Unfortunately while handbrake looks like a great program to rip and encode to various containers, it doesn't give an iso image as an output option, so if I want to back up a DVD to another physical disk that I can play in my DVD player, that doesn't seem to be an (easy at least) option.

    1. Re:Dvdshrink by jonadab · · Score: 1

      Okay, but if all you want to do is turn the DVD into an .iso image of the DVD, what do you need ripping software for? Most Unix systems come with this nifty little command called dd that will do just as well.

      --
      Cut that out, or I will ship you to Norilsk in a box.
    2. Re:Dvdshrink by Taxman415a · · Score: 1

      Okay, but if all you want to do is turn the DVD into an .iso image of the DVD, what do you need ripping software for?

      For the 'shrink' part in the name is a big part. Getting a dual layer dvd to fit on a single layer backup medium. Then presumably some people want to watch encrypted disks on linux so you need some software that can handle that as well, also I find the PUOs highly annoying, so I typically remove those. You need other software to do the last two, dvdshrink only handles the shrinking part, but it does that at good quality. That's what ripping software is for, and when I'm done I still want an iso that I can backup so my original disk doesn't get scratched to oblivion.

      Oh, and quick tip. If you're going to be snarky, make sure you know what you're talking about first.

  128. K9 Copy Assistant by HermMunster · · Score: 1

    I tried K9 Copy Assistant just to see how well it worked. I downloaded it from getdeb.net.

    I inserted the DVD, launched the program, clicked a few options relating to which language, told it I wanted an .ISO (though it looks to support .mp4), and started the process. I went to get a few things done and when I came back it was finished. I dragged the .iso onto VLC and it presented me with the menu. I clicked play and off it went. The video looked good.

    The size of the .iso file was 4.3 gigs. I then used brasero to burn the .iso to a DVD to see if it played well.

    Playback off the new backup dvd worked great too.

    As for a comment regarding those that think the purist linux movement is bad (or good). First, a mixture of both is necessary but whenever you can get a native app for your OS you should. Linux is an OS in and of itself and it stands on it's own. That's the direction we are taking it and the direction everyone should view it.

    Just because one category on the platform is lacking doesn't mean the whole OS has a problem. As far as I can see the K9 copy assistant did a fantastic job of keeping it simple and performing the job well. It had enough options to customize things yet did the job flawlessly. I've only tried one commercial DVD to see if it worked. I can't guarantee that any others won't cause issues, but hell, it worked and it was simple, straight forward, and a native linux app.

    Linux is an OS in and of itself and it has no dependency on Windows or any other platform and that's the way it should be and stay. I do use a combination of programs on linux and a few games on linux in wine, but I don't make a habit of trying to get programs to run under wine. I'm here to support and promote Linux to the future.

    This is LINUX not windows.

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    You can lead a man with reason but you can't make him think.
  129. vob copy and k9copy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    both are native to linux.

    vobcopy (http://vobcopy.org/projects/c/c.shtml) is a very simple command line too that rips a dvd. when i say simple i mean simple. if you can use cp and ls, you can use vobcopy.

    to shrink or convert a dvd, k9copy(http://k9copy.sourceforge.net/) is a very simple gui application that does this.

    both are extremely simple to use, and most distributions have packages and dependencies for these already.

  130. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you have a good converter, you could try vobcopy it has always worked for me.

  131. Make ISOs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just make ISOs of these discs with a tool such as K3B. Play them back with VLC or XBMC or something similar.

  132. easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just run dvd decrypter under the latest version of wine with the version of windows set to NT4.

    Then just use whatever encoder, ffmpeg maybe, do convert the loads of .VOB's into an mpg/avi. /win

  133. Karlan Mitchell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had the exact problem years ago here, become fed up with It I decided to just make my own program using libdvdread and mencoder...

    unfortunately you must compile the code yourself ;)

    here it is:
    http://3dstoneage.com/index.cgi?page=DVD

  134. Re:Handbrake and OSX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am a OSX and Linux user and a very beautiful solution to DVD ripping under OSX is Fairmount.

    http://www.metakine.com/products/fairmount/

    You non Mac folks should look at this.

    Fairmount is a small open source application which uses VLC to decrypt a DVD on the fly.

    You insert a DVD and instead of the disc appearing on your desktop, a hard drive mounts there. Fairmount opens a web server on your machine and uses VLC to automatically decrypt the drive on the fly.

    Ripping the DVD is now a simple drag and drop copy operation, or you can open the Video TS folder from any application which can handle it to do whatever processing/playback you want.

    Elegant Solution and completely open source!

    Of course you still might want to convert the information, but both VLC and DVD Player can open and play the TS folder.

  135. Howl's Moving Castle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "for example, when ripping 'Howl's Moving Castle,' one of the files it ripped to was in Japanese instead of English"

    How could you watch that stuff dubbed to english, you lose half the movie by doing that.
    Subtitles are your friend.

  136. dv_cool_fuel by dv_cool_fuel · · Score: 1

    I've not had any problems using acidrip under Ubuntu, I have been using it for about 12 months

  137. dvd::rip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DVD::Rip has worked flawlessly for me and I've got to choose the audio and video tracks I want to rip.

  138. k9copy... by mauser1891 · · Score: 1

    Hello Folks, I use k9copy on Debian 4r6, though my gui is gnome.

  139. file a bug report by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you can't find the software which can't fit your requirements fully, may by it's time to start fixing the best existing software then? That way work really well in Linux and that's why it's open source. Fix it yourself and contribute back, hire some one or simply bug report to be author of the best software. Choose the software with the best programmer/community and fix everything!

  140. dvd::rip is fine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    dvd::rip works fine for me. i've ripped many dvd's, with various different language/audio/subtitle options, and have not had any problems. if you don't trust it, rip a small clip first and test that the language is how you want it, then tweak the options if it isn't. even the most idiot-focused windows software can't read your mind and rip a dvd exactly how you want it, given the range of different setups and different things you may want to extract. i don't see the problem: dvd::rip is already a "decent dvd-ripping solution for linux"

  141. Is that you Bill? More FUD? by celtic_hackr · · Score: 1

    I've backed up DVDs from all the major studios on popular titles, with varying types of protection and not had any trouble with any of them. Perhaps if you could name some specific titles that use ARCCOS, according to you, we can disprove your fallacious claim? Just like Groklaw, IBM and Novell decimated SCO's claims. While what you say is true; if you try to just copy a Disney DVD from one disk to another it simply won't play, however, you can use K9Copy to make one that doesn't skip anything. I know. I have a small child who watches Disney videos, much to my disapproval, and thus need to make backups often. A DVD can only take so much abuse from an elementary age child. They are highly destructive beings and UL aught to hire some of them to test products with.

  142. h264enc and xvidenc by sumanc · · Score: 1

    I like h264enc and xvidenc - the interactive shell script rippers

  143. use HandBrake with the Television or other preset! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HandBrake's got several presets, and if you're ripping DVDs for your desktop/notebook, try the Television preset!

    It's good!

    They've got a preset for the MID machines, too, and others..

  144. Ah, a diversion, answer: DVDFab/Wine! by lpq · · Score: 1

    You wouldn't say that QT creates a "fake" QT environment for applications like KDE so why would you say that WINE provides a "fake" WIN32 environment for DVDFab?

    There is a difference when a problem comes up. If I'm running an app that uses Qt, I don't usually have the
    app person tell me "oh, that may be a problem in Qt, and emulating an undocumented behavior, so the Qt developers won't be able to tell you, either, what's really going on, so you're screwed." The developer deals with the bug in their app and chases down the stream back to the source (or using the source if so motivated).

    With a bug in DVDFab, even if the company suppports running on Linux via WINE, if they reproduce the bug there, they might only have a Win Devel env, and well, they don't _really_ support it on linux -- just happens it worked -- because Wine worked for the calls they thought they were using, but ..ooo...

    That's a weird case, why would anyone do it that way? You shouldn't use the product that way, you should do something different that you wanted to do with our product and only use it in some other way you weren't thinking of (like the way we intended when we designed to work in our narrow test cases).

    Even if they can push back to the Wine devels or fix it themselves in wine, they can ultimately get stuck with ...Hmmm....... I wonder what that's doing? ...

    "Hey Joe, we still have the reverse engineering team around to figure out this windows call?"
    "Um...what team?"
    "Oh, that's right, it was already done for us by volunteers who spent countless hours developing Wine in the first place...oh well". Back to customer...

    [weeks later]... "sorry we don't support it being used that way on linux". ***

    So back to the issue of a good ripper on Linux?

    Doesn't sound like there is one.

    -l

  145. no problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    k9copy to rip and k3b to burn...no problems...

  146. DVD Reading on GNU/Linux by bytelogic · · Score: 1

    The system is GNU+Linux, since Linux is just the kernel. You can find software for DVD related work listed in the Free Software directory at: http://directory.fsf.org/ Improving the support for DVD reading on GNU/Linux is a useful thing to do.

  147. encode2mpeg, k9copy, and how to fix Acidrip by wdef · · Score: 1

    encode2mpeg uses mencoder and can re-encode *anything* to a file, including ARCCOS protected (or whatever) dvds. It takes a little homework to work out how to use the myriad command line switches, but it's an incredibly powerful script. k9copy (user friendly gui) also can rip these problematic dvds AND copy menus. OTOH I never had much trouble getting dvd::rip or Acidrip to work, just some practice and homework. To make sure you get the english soundtrack you just need to add -aid 128 in the mencoder options box in Acidrip. You also need to make sure Acidrip is patched with the patches from the Ubuntu sources. Acidrip is no longer maintained; those patches fix a number of incompatibilities with relatively recent mplayer versions. An older dvd commandline copying program that works well is lxdvdrip.