The cascading implications of this disclosure actually indicate that "Free Leonard Peltier" is the superior battle cry.
Doubt is the long term opponent, and simple faith does not sooth sophisticated minds - a true shortcoming of Sophistry in times of epic crisis.
At some point there needs to be some signs and wonders for the overly educated. Peltier would fit the bill as a symbolic reparation to an indigenous population that has proven capable of harboring organizations of armed, disenfranchised people without seeing sermons of violence cover the land.
Manning should sit as long as the responsible instigators remain hidden. They should all be held accountable for the outcome, not the action.
It won't take long for a majority of people to arrive at the stunning conclusion that the leaks demonstrate an economy of governance that lacks the means to satisfy their communities without reformation.
Since we aren't just going to die when that happens, I suggest standing with the spirit of the Magna Carta, the idea of the Constitution, and the wisdom of Lincoln at Gettysburg.
At that point Manning can walk.
If we fail to get there it doesn't really matter what happens to any of us. The dream of the U.S. will be beyond reach and controlled secession should probably be embraced to head off the chaos.
There aren't any pics for anyone that grew around here because you are used to seeing trails over the years.
My nearing retirement father didn't understand what the uproar was about because after seeing the first pic he thought he knew what he was looking at... another launch.
I only cared because of the intrigue around the launch.
I never was in ROTC or anything but I can ID choppers by sound because El Toro, Tustin, Pendelton etc formed a pretty solid web of air traffic, and the high alititude vehicles coming out of Vandy or China Lake or wherever are visible in the upper atmosphere.
I saw stealths in person very soon after they were first acknowledged ( on the ground at El Toro), a blackhawk once landed in my neighborhood after mechanical trouble and was there until mechanics could come out and get it flight worthy again. The Black Knights would occasionally be seen among the other F-18 squadrons that would fly in under the shadow of Saddleback. Troop transports on ground and air along with occasional convoys carrying heavy equipment were just part of the daily routine in much of so-cal, and especially what is now considered the affluent S.O.C. and San Diego areas.
Hell, most everybody on the maternal side of my family worked in Aerospace during and after the war, and many families with no current military personnel could have grandpa get them into the officer's mess and exchanges.
Millions of people just grew up with knowledge of the military and their vehicles. There wouldn't be any reason to snap a pic until it came out that something was fishy.
Just for the memories, does anyone else remember trading the 8 1/2 X 11 glossy jet photos with stats on the back like baseball cards? Most kids where I grew up had at least some of those from airshows and what-not.
"I think we need another Sputnik as a kick in the pants."
You can't announce new tech right now unless you want the U.S. all over your nuts.
So your Sputnik is going to require an established Intel agency making the right deal or a splinter group getting ballsy enough to dare you to find out what you are seeing.
No one wants to debut anything, no one wants to be the next Oppenheimer. Many people will accept depopulation before further empowerment of existing players.
Meanwhile everything rots.
So, how about another Summer of Love instead... Let's opt for less penis and more commitment to sustainability. And if anyone wants to get on stage with socks stuffed into their blues and electric guitars wailing they should be pointed to the nearest RenFaire. Just my $.02
I'm pretty sure the arguing step is where customers get concessions and realistic pricing. A single vendor solution means no fruitful arguing from the time the contract is signed until the customer is ready to threaten to endure migration costs required for divorcing the offerings.
The sum total of the "Roman Flaw" was that they spent a couple centuries correcting the grammar of their enemies. Measuring the difference between a Centurion and oneself leads to an understanding of the Centurion and the choice of whether to reveal enough of oneself to be likewise understood.
So they were ruthless, but also naive in the extreme when measured by aggregate fruits of their labors.
The establishment of the HRE fixed this by introducing handshake executions to replace the spectacles required to constantly assert the fidelity of each facet of the previously multi-homed religious state. This predictably lead to a Unionized structure as the faith among hand-shakers weathered the centuries.
When you know the opponent both kills at one remove and is desirous that the action be conducted off-screen, your primary concern must be infiltrating the centers of discourse and judgment directly - by default agreeing to "When in Rome..." and entering the realm of battle outside the box being commanded by state changes cascading from judgments taking place within the box.
I wonder if any of this stuff still applies today? Please excuse me while I go reflect upon my own public displays by examination of your interpretation of the very public displays of our opponents.
This isn't my area, but perennial cost cutting was the problem. After a solid start reducing fat and focusing on core missions, old Jack ended up going off the rails simply because the money kept rolling.
His philosophy shared a great deal in common with the a very unpopular practice in modern governance known as a strategy of tensions.
He wanted to keep up to 10% of the talent force on steady march out the door regardless of their performance and regardless of how well things were going. This cost cutting measure depends upon the other 90% not leaping to the conclusion that an arbitrary management will eventually come for them as well... And hoping that they instead believe there was something inferior about the 10%; hoping that they will strive to validate the faith of retention that their fearless leader has placed in them. Not a good situation.
Then there was the idea to cut all involvement in any endeavor where the company was not challenging for the crown of industry leader. This of course removes innovation and cross-pollination leaving the remaining servants absent vision and experience coming from outside their own little box.
Wikipedia claims he was known as Neutron Jack. I think that may be taking it a little too far, but you get the point.
What if that New World Order is simply that they have to deal with all the horrible shit that has already been done in their names and not allow the country to fold under the weight.
The government can't do it on their own at this point. Large swaths of the populace appear unwilling to push for reality on their own.
Tough situation, and one that will require a NWO scale reality shift if we are going to save the philosophies that gave us the power to screw ourselves this badly in the first place.
The spirit of the Magna Carta, the heart of the Constitution, and the body of the populace giving themselves over to the memory of Gettysburg - the smell of piss, shit, and barely covered bodies of the faithful, orators come to make their names while the assembled gag, a president with the humility to give himself over to the day - Not pretty, but stunning and unmatched.
Your question exhibits the problem. When did lifting another nation's talent become a practice we would even consider? OMG, sorry, Godwin, I know.
About the best H1B explanation I have heard is that a University education does not change someone's social status in traditional circles (ie: old money/power) therefore we are helping India modernize by providing a remote incubator outside the prejudice of hierarchy.
But there is a cultural cost. If we are not offering a possibility of immigration to the individual in the program then the program should choose a more clearly limited intern structure. Hell, let's get H1B into the C level and get some young firebrands in a shadow seat at some bare knuckle board meetings.
Then ask the successful C level interns if they want to come be tokens in America or legitimate industry leaders in India. Give them the pick of the H1B crop as incubator talent, exploratory deals with U.S. partners and send them home and implement a severe limitation of the program. We should also allow political exceptions where returning home would mean re-entering a racial or political security situation.
Eventually we will have greater parity of respect between our skilled labor candidates including the C's, and the mere specter of giving our alliance with India reason to thrash around will help encourage honesty by third parties when dealing with either.
Dare I suggest we are looking at a cyber MAD deterrent with other highly populous nations? Give the right partner a gift with no strings.
I had a conversation at some function with a guy my sister knew. Turns out he was into the final stages of a PhD and when he found out that I wasn't going to college he offered me a several thousand dollar set of books on philosophy and asked nothing in return.
IIRC he claimed that the hardest part of teaching certain fields was getting the students to stop looking in the books for the questions they were supposed to be answering.
So when some random, uneducated guy he met wondered about the connection between the failings of Sophism and the modern desire for general sophistication he already had years of exposure to formal students to measure against. All I had to do was say one thing he hadn't heard in all those years. Probably the same situation for a lot of highly trained folk.
A nice observation, 602015. Maybe another way to put is that trafficking in snippets results in an economy of snippets.
Complex subject matter is more prone to fracturing when such an economy exists.
The great judges and counsels of history have either had the power to get enough of the full story to make balanced decisions, or to intuit the implications of a judgment and decide well despite knowledge of their own ignorance.
IMHO they all would have had a hell of a time replicating the feat in today's society without first rooting the communication apparatus.
A well meaning populace has the ability to graze complex subject matter via snippet while primarily focusing on immediate needs of meat space. This appears to also require a culture of continuing mental development; a dedication to sorting through the snippets; reflecting on sources; exerting preference of affiliation directly through the demonstration of preference for information.
They invented it? The idea is you get the first tap when you take up a certain level of responsibility, and a double if you drop it. Do a good job and you can skip the double and act like you own the whole bar for the rest of your life.
FTC and GAO are two of those agencies the country really really needs when things get rough. Their missions are as core to what the citizenry cries out for at every election as anything done by the CIA. Not more important, but just as important.
Maybe those Princeton guys found an old-timey patron or something... they seem to be getting noisier by the day.
Great idea. It will happen about the same time that "white collar crimes" are treated the same as mugging or burglary.
That is one perspective. Another perspective is that the 'cyber' is there to cast a pall on targeted industries that have the audacity to require technically competent individuals to bring technology to market.
In the process the industries are creating technologically empowered individuals, most of whom will be off-shored when their specialized services have produced the desired innovation, and their specialized knowledge has aged. The remainder are management.
The described situation == Future Terrorist Hotbed of America... just ask DHS;)
So in this sense the 'cyber' has already Godwin'd the thread as it represents a boxcar.
In a slightly more open world, where private companies do not have to sue government agencies for skirting fair practice bidding, the influxes of experienced engineers would be a massive boon to the educational establishment, small businesses, incubator businesses, and even investment consulting. If the expectation was that you made the big leagues to build up a nest egg, then enjoyed smaller incomes while leveraging the experience and doing something satisfying we wouldn't have any problem at all.
Unfortunately, once you work on big time projects you become a member of the empowered 'cyber' actor club and and are subject to NDAs, No Competes, and possibly much worse if you were in a 'sensitive industry' (making stuff that works better than our enemies stuff so our own people can't have it because we don't want our enemy to have it).
This is a part of the mindset that I would love to see thrown out with the bathwater, so to speak. This type of thinking sets up a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Get rid of the cyber now so that people in the affected industries can stop having to profess allegiance to a hat color; can stop experiencing fabricated stresses that are going to chafe down the road; and some can start having more interesting conversations with all these 'terrorists' that out there waiting to prey on us. No badge or national secrecy required.
Technically empowered people, whether hackers or 'engineers' are still humans, and most of those choose not to senselessly slaughter people. In fact you would have to abuse most people for years before they would get to that point.
You would be reduced to a meaty pulp mixed with shards of plastic and spread over the roadway. This would be difficult to clean up thoroughly so some of your remains would bake into the road where it would remain for many years.
So a de facto public memorial? You may have just revolutionized my political consulting practice!!!
In lieu of a check would you consider a stretch of highway somewhere in the Mojave? As an aside, are you available to NPC for my gaming group?
Not really, the public can't seem to grasp the idea that the benefit to mankind is in the details, and wonders why we need something that has no generalists.
I don't have personal experience to back this up, but it seems that there must be generalists in the math world.
Anyone that applies their knowledge for the purpose of peer review is entering the realm of something resembling a comparative generalization of the math.
It is possible that only specialists attempt this feat, but once they are off and running they are participating in a potential merging of the proposed maths or perspectives with their own.
This process requires reflection and moderation as much as rigorous mental manipulation to establish proof; requires generalization by a specialist.
There is a parade of history detailing centuries of mistaken scientific wisdom and I have noticed that folly seems to follow those that misplace faith in the practice and not the practitioner. When the faith is given to the practice the following hellhounds start licking their chops: the public expectation of continued success, the realities of funding acquisition, the competition of commercialized thought, and the inability to separate oneself from one's accomplishments.
When this happens science fails mightily, ego comes to the fore, and folk start raging debates about the metaphysical properties of aether or some such business.
When the specialists involved demote the tools to the toolbox and keep their vision about them even as their heads are down you get legends. I wasn't there, but I think Bell Labs is a good example this type of success, and I hope more people start aiming for more cross pollination, generalization, peer review, and open processes.
I'm not sure we could know anything without knowing a first thing and extrapolating from there. Generalization is key to this process and maths are not exceptions. Put another way, those that live in interesting times get interesting opportunities - so before and after you are immersed in your science keep your head on a swivel, you might be the next great cross pollinator.
Put yet another way, your science came from somewhere, but much like good encryption and learning to read, you can't easily divine the perspective that formed the system by analyzing the system itself. The most fundamental math is in the fact that math can exist within our purview. Tripping out on this cannot be left to transhumanists, cosmologists, and philosophers if we hope to wield our specialized knowledge with wisdom in an increasingly crowded world without requiring transhuman salvation.
Does God have the need to know? I can't find him in JPAS either.
If the Pope pulled a two thousand year old black book from beneath his robes and offered to dial you up a Jew, would you have the minerals to do the talking?
I wish public figures would show a little more humility when tossing these phrases. Then again, maybe he's right. 42? African or European? I don't know.
I salute you. Not sure how meta you were trying to be, but I am grinning.
I will think about you, and I don't think about potential pen-pals like artichokes... onions at best;)
If you and your wife are real me and my lady might also be real. Goodnight - in the morning I will have to explain why I drank the last two beers (it's 'cause it took two to gain a perspective on that post;) )
They don't have to watch us all. We can all be intelligent and capable thinkers expressing ourselves well and not be saying one original thing between us.
2600 maintains physical distribution. It wouldn't matter if they were pushing Hannah Montana Linux on the masses - as long as the name hacker is in the title and limelight whoring politicians remain reactionary there is a value there.
Phrack not only opened heads on a few things, but provided me with scrap paper I could feel good about for years after the fact.
Spot on on BH/Dcon from what I can see. Back in the day DT meant death trap, now it means Dark Tangent, possibly the same thing.
Your list could have had a lot bigger names on it, though. How about Obama's wunderkid from Virginia, Lamo & his 'journalist' boy toy, those Vigilant fuckers, etc...
How about "sorry dude, you are going to die because the U.S. lied when they said they would not negotiate with the extremists or stop until they had the perps behind 9-11 and they were lying on both counts."
Every individual in the world that has ever thought about cooperating with the U.S. government must be put on notice. When the going gets tough the U.S. is going to have to pull out because "tough" makes the war money too expensive to go after for a while.
Anyhow, it is always only a matter of time until the lax ass QA of the U.S. military is going to result in pictures of naked human pyramids and all potential allies need to know this.
I can't imagine who the fuck would do business with our government after the last nine years.
We not only didn't do anything about it, it later turned out that the U.S. was an official advisor for the program which has been claimed to have killed over 100k people though 60k is the more commonly cited number.
The message was clear and influential in my education as I am sure it has been for others. Any accusation may be shown to be true at any time against an organization of a certain size, but the U.S. government on balance is the nearest thing to a global 'final solution' actor since the U.S.S.R. went down.
The saddest part is it seems there are many people that honestly believe it is within our rights to organize and empower political holocaust. I can only hope hell is real, because pacifism is my dedication here on earth so I won't ever get the chance to show these punks what *I* learned from Artichoke & Paperclip. Now if only they would stop trotting out all the things they learned from the Nazis we might be able to get somewhere.
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Interesting post right up until "Free Manning."
The cascading implications of this disclosure actually indicate that "Free Leonard Peltier" is the superior battle cry.
Doubt is the long term opponent, and simple faith does not sooth sophisticated minds - a true shortcoming of Sophistry in times of epic crisis.
At some point there needs to be some signs and wonders for the overly educated. Peltier would fit the bill as a symbolic reparation to an indigenous population that has proven capable of harboring organizations of armed, disenfranchised people without seeing sermons of violence cover the land.
Manning should sit as long as the responsible instigators remain hidden. They should all be held accountable for the outcome, not the action.
It won't take long for a majority of people to arrive at the stunning conclusion that the leaks demonstrate an economy of governance that lacks the means to satisfy their communities without reformation.
Since we aren't just going to die when that happens, I suggest standing with the spirit of the Magna Carta, the idea of the Constitution, and the wisdom of Lincoln at Gettysburg.
At that point Manning can walk.
If we fail to get there it doesn't really matter what happens to any of us. The dream of the U.S. will be beyond reach and controlled secession should probably be embraced to head off the chaos.
Hey, homeboy:
It does no good to treat this forum like your own running street battle when the conversation is about real life and death.
More people will hear you if you take it down a notch; when you don't appear via form to misunderstand the severity of current affairs.
Regards,
ratio_c d ushering.
Begins as the first, ends as the second. This became inevitable when we went to a nuclear economy ;)
There aren't any pics for anyone that grew around here because you are used to seeing trails over the years.
My nearing retirement father didn't understand what the uproar was about because after seeing the first pic he thought he knew what he was looking at... another launch.
I only cared because of the intrigue around the launch.
I never was in ROTC or anything but I can ID choppers by sound because El Toro, Tustin, Pendelton etc formed a pretty solid web of air traffic, and the high alititude vehicles coming out of Vandy or China Lake or wherever are visible in the upper atmosphere.
I saw stealths in person very soon after they were first acknowledged ( on the ground at El Toro), a blackhawk once landed in my neighborhood after mechanical trouble and was there until mechanics could come out and get it flight worthy again. The Black Knights would occasionally be seen among the other F-18 squadrons that would fly in under the shadow of Saddleback. Troop transports on ground and air along with occasional convoys carrying heavy equipment were just part of the daily routine in much of so-cal, and especially what is now considered the affluent S.O.C. and San Diego areas.
Hell, most everybody on the maternal side of my family worked in Aerospace during and after the war, and many families with no current military personnel could have grandpa get them into the officer's mess and exchanges.
Millions of people just grew up with knowledge of the military and their vehicles. There wouldn't be any reason to snap a pic until it came out that something was fishy.
Just for the memories, does anyone else remember trading the 8 1/2 X 11 glossy jet photos with stats on the back like baseball cards? Most kids where I grew up had at least some of those from airshows and what-not.
Anyhow, no mystery as to why there are no pics.
"I think we need another Sputnik as a kick in the pants."
You can't announce new tech right now unless you want the U.S. all over your nuts.
So your Sputnik is going to require an established Intel agency making the right deal or a splinter group getting ballsy enough to dare you to find out what you are seeing.
No one wants to debut anything, no one wants to be the next Oppenheimer. Many people will accept depopulation before further empowerment of existing players.
Meanwhile everything rots.
So, how about another Summer of Love instead... Let's opt for less penis and more commitment to sustainability. And if anyone wants to get on stage with socks stuffed into their blues and electric guitars wailing they should be pointed to the nearest RenFaire. Just my $.02
I'm pretty sure the arguing step is where customers get concessions and realistic pricing. A single vendor solution means no fruitful arguing from the time the contract is signed until the customer is ready to threaten to endure migration costs required for divorcing the offerings.
The sum total of the "Roman Flaw" was that they spent a couple centuries correcting the grammar of their enemies. Measuring the difference between a Centurion and oneself leads to an understanding of the Centurion and the choice of whether to reveal enough of oneself to be likewise understood.
So they were ruthless, but also naive in the extreme when measured by aggregate fruits of their labors.
The establishment of the HRE fixed this by introducing handshake executions to replace the spectacles required to constantly assert the fidelity of each facet of the previously multi-homed religious state. This predictably lead to a Unionized structure as the faith among hand-shakers weathered the centuries.
When you know the opponent both kills at one remove and is desirous that the action be conducted off-screen, your primary concern must be infiltrating the centers of discourse and judgment directly - by default agreeing to "When in Rome..." and entering the realm of battle outside the box being commanded by state changes cascading from judgments taking place within the box.
I wonder if any of this stuff still applies today? Please excuse me while I go reflect upon my own public displays by examination of your interpretation of the very public displays of our opponents.
This isn't my area, but perennial cost cutting was the problem. After a solid start reducing fat and focusing on core missions, old Jack ended up going off the rails simply because the money kept rolling.
His philosophy shared a great deal in common with the a very unpopular practice in modern governance known as a strategy of tensions.
He wanted to keep up to 10% of the talent force on steady march out the door regardless of their performance and regardless of how well things were going. This cost cutting measure depends upon the other 90% not leaping to the conclusion that an arbitrary management will eventually come for them as well... And hoping that they instead believe there was something inferior about the 10%; hoping that they will strive to validate the faith of retention that their fearless leader has placed in them. Not a good situation.
Then there was the idea to cut all involvement in any endeavor where the company was not challenging for the crown of industry leader. This of course removes innovation and cross-pollination leaving the remaining servants absent vision and experience coming from outside their own little box.
Wikipedia claims he was known as Neutron Jack. I think that may be taking it a little too far, but you get the point.
What if that New World Order is simply that they have to deal with all the horrible shit that has already been done in their names and not allow the country to fold under the weight.
The government can't do it on their own at this point. Large swaths of the populace appear unwilling to push for reality on their own.
Tough situation, and one that will require a NWO scale reality shift if we are going to save the philosophies that gave us the power to screw ourselves this badly in the first place.
The spirit of the Magna Carta, the heart of the Constitution, and the body of the populace giving themselves over to the memory of Gettysburg - the smell of piss, shit, and barely covered bodies of the faithful, orators come to make their names while the assembled gag, a president with the humility to give himself over to the day - Not pretty, but stunning and unmatched.
Your question exhibits the problem. When did lifting another nation's talent become a practice we would even consider? OMG, sorry, Godwin, I know.
About the best H1B explanation I have heard is that a University education does not change someone's social status in traditional circles (ie: old money/power) therefore we are helping India modernize by providing a remote incubator outside the prejudice of hierarchy.
But there is a cultural cost. If we are not offering a possibility of immigration to the individual in the program then the program should choose a more clearly limited intern structure. Hell, let's get H1B into the C level and get some young firebrands in a shadow seat at some bare knuckle board meetings.
Then ask the successful C level interns if they want to come be tokens in America or legitimate industry leaders in India. Give them the pick of the H1B crop as incubator talent, exploratory deals with U.S. partners and send them home and implement a severe limitation of the program. We should also allow political exceptions where returning home would mean re-entering a racial or political security situation.
Eventually we will have greater parity of respect between our skilled labor candidates including the C's, and the mere specter of giving our alliance with India reason to thrash around will help encourage honesty by third parties when dealing with either.
Dare I suggest we are looking at a cyber MAD deterrent with other highly populous nations? Give the right partner a gift with no strings.
Exactly. Make someone make the decision that they are not only going to victimize someone, but that it is going to be you.
Jumping an air gap is trivial for a privileged actor, but most people simply won't go that last mile to commit the crime.
Jon Katz.
I'll jump in as well.
I had a conversation at some function with a guy my sister knew. Turns out he was into the final stages of a PhD and when he found out that I wasn't going to college he offered me a several thousand dollar set of books on philosophy and asked nothing in return.
IIRC he claimed that the hardest part of teaching certain fields was getting the students to stop looking in the books for the questions they were supposed to be answering.
So when some random, uneducated guy he met wondered about the connection between the failings of Sophism and the modern desire for general sophistication he already had years of exposure to formal students to measure against. All I had to do was say one thing he hadn't heard in all those years. Probably the same situation for a lot of highly trained folk.
A nice observation, 602015. Maybe another way to put is that trafficking in snippets results in an economy of snippets.
Complex subject matter is more prone to fracturing when such an economy exists.
The great judges and counsels of history have either had the power to get enough of the full story to make balanced decisions, or to intuit the implications of a judgment and decide well despite knowledge of their own ignorance.
IMHO they all would have had a hell of a time replicating the feat in today's society without first rooting the communication apparatus.
A well meaning populace has the ability to graze complex subject matter via snippet while primarily focusing on immediate needs of meat space. This appears to also require a culture of continuing mental development; a dedication to sorting through the snippets; reflecting on sources; exerting preference of affiliation directly through the demonstration of preference for information.
It seems that this is where we fall down.
They invented it? The idea is you get the first tap when you take up a certain level of responsibility, and a double if you drop it. Do a good job and you can skip the double and act like you own the whole bar for the rest of your life.
FTC and GAO are two of those agencies the country really really needs when things get rough. Their missions are as core to what the citizenry cries out for at every election as anything done by the CIA. Not more important, but just as important.
Maybe those Princeton guys found an old-timey patron or something... they seem to be getting noisier by the day.
Great idea. It will happen about the same time that "white collar crimes" are treated the same as mugging or burglary.
That is one perspective. Another perspective is that the 'cyber' is there to cast a pall on targeted industries that have the audacity to require technically competent individuals to bring technology to market.
In the process the industries are creating technologically empowered individuals, most of whom will be off-shored when their specialized services have produced the desired innovation, and their specialized knowledge has aged. The remainder are management.
The described situation == Future Terrorist Hotbed of America... just ask DHS ;)
So in this sense the 'cyber' has already Godwin'd the thread as it represents a boxcar.
In a slightly more open world, where private companies do not have to sue government agencies for skirting fair practice bidding, the influxes of experienced engineers would be a massive boon to the educational establishment, small businesses, incubator businesses, and even investment consulting. If the expectation was that you made the big leagues to build up a nest egg, then enjoyed smaller incomes while leveraging the experience and doing something satisfying we wouldn't have any problem at all.
Unfortunately, once you work on big time projects you become a member of the empowered 'cyber' actor club and and are subject to NDAs, No Competes, and possibly much worse if you were in a 'sensitive industry' (making stuff that works better than our enemies stuff so our own people can't have it because we don't want our enemy to have it).
This is a part of the mindset that I would love to see thrown out with the bathwater, so to speak. This type of thinking sets up a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Get rid of the cyber now so that people in the affected industries can stop having to profess allegiance to a hat color; can stop experiencing fabricated stresses that are going to chafe down the road; and some can start having more interesting conversations with all these 'terrorists' that out there waiting to prey on us. No badge or national secrecy required.
Technically empowered people, whether hackers or 'engineers' are still humans, and most of those choose not to senselessly slaughter people. In fact you would have to abuse most people for years before they would get to that point.
Wait, what?
You would be reduced to a meaty pulp mixed with shards of plastic and spread over the roadway. This would be difficult to clean up thoroughly so some of your remains would bake into the road where it would remain for many years.
So a de facto public memorial? You may have just revolutionized my political consulting practice!!!
In lieu of a check would you consider a stretch of highway somewhere in the Mojave? As an aside, are you available to NPC for my gaming group?
Not really, the public can't seem to grasp the idea that the benefit to mankind is in the details, and wonders why we need something that has no generalists.
I don't have personal experience to back this up, but it seems that there must be generalists in the math world.
Anyone that applies their knowledge for the purpose of peer review is entering the realm of something resembling a comparative generalization of the math.
It is possible that only specialists attempt this feat, but once they are off and running they are participating in a potential merging of the proposed maths or perspectives with their own.
This process requires reflection and moderation as much as rigorous mental manipulation to establish proof; requires generalization by a specialist.
There is a parade of history detailing centuries of mistaken scientific wisdom and I have noticed that folly seems to follow those that misplace faith in the practice and not the practitioner. When the faith is given to the practice the following hellhounds start licking their chops: the public expectation of continued success, the realities of funding acquisition, the competition of commercialized thought, and the inability to separate oneself from one's accomplishments.
When this happens science fails mightily, ego comes to the fore, and folk start raging debates about the metaphysical properties of aether or some such business.
When the specialists involved demote the tools to the toolbox and keep their vision about them even as their heads are down you get legends. I wasn't there, but I think Bell Labs is a good example this type of success, and I hope more people start aiming for more cross pollination, generalization, peer review, and open processes.
I'm not sure we could know anything without knowing a first thing and extrapolating from there. Generalization is key to this process and maths are not exceptions. Put another way, those that live in interesting times get interesting opportunities - so before and after you are immersed in your science keep your head on a swivel, you might be the next great cross pollinator.
Put yet another way, your science came from somewhere, but much like good encryption and learning to read, you can't easily divine the perspective that formed the system by analyzing the system itself. The most fundamental math is in the fact that math can exist within our purview. Tripping out on this cannot be left to transhumanists, cosmologists, and philosophers if we hope to wield our specialized knowledge with wisdom in an increasingly crowded world without requiring transhuman salvation.
GPL is worthless without a foundation of faith in humans... That is what makes the license go.
All of the actions you suggest would fail to cheapen the power of the GPL, but succeed in demeaning the community around it.
Does God have the need to know? I can't find him in JPAS either.
If the Pope pulled a two thousand year old black book from beneath his robes and offered to dial you up a Jew, would you have the minerals to do the talking?
I wish public figures would show a little more humility when tossing these phrases. Then again, maybe he's right. 42? African or European? I don't know.
I salute you. Not sure how meta you were trying to be, but I am grinning.
I will think about you, and I don't think about potential pen-pals like artichokes... onions at best ;)
If you and your wife are real me and my lady might also be real. Goodnight - in the morning I will have to explain why I drank the last two beers (it's 'cause it took two to gain a perspective on that post ;) )
They don't have to watch us all. We can all be intelligent and capable thinkers expressing ourselves well and not be saying one original thing between us.
They watch using theories of organization.
2600 maintains physical distribution. It wouldn't matter if they were pushing Hannah Montana Linux on the masses - as long as the name hacker is in the title and limelight whoring politicians remain reactionary there is a value there.
Phrack not only opened heads on a few things, but provided me with scrap paper I could feel good about for years after the fact.
Spot on on BH/Dcon from what I can see. Back in the day DT meant death trap, now it means Dark Tangent, possibly the same thing.
Your list could have had a lot bigger names on it, though. How about Obama's wunderkid from Virginia, Lamo & his 'journalist' boy toy, those Vigilant fuckers, etc...
How about "sorry dude, you are going to die because the U.S. lied when they said they would not negotiate with the extremists or stop until they had the perps behind 9-11 and they were lying on both counts."
Every individual in the world that has ever thought about cooperating with the U.S. government must be put on notice. When the going gets tough the U.S. is going to have to pull out because "tough" makes the war money too expensive to go after for a while.
Anyhow, it is always only a matter of time until the lax ass QA of the U.S. military is going to result in pictures of naked human pyramids and all potential allies need to know this.
I can't imagine who the fuck would do business with our government after the last nine years.
We not only didn't do anything about it, it later turned out that the U.S. was an official advisor for the program which has been claimed to have killed over 100k people though 60k is the more commonly cited number.
The message was clear and influential in my education as I am sure it has been for others. Any accusation may be shown to be true at any time against an organization of a certain size, but the U.S. government on balance is the nearest thing to a global 'final solution' actor since the U.S.S.R. went down.
The saddest part is it seems there are many people that honestly believe it is within our rights to organize and empower political holocaust. I can only hope hell is real, because pacifism is my dedication here on earth so I won't ever get the chance to show these punks what *I* learned from Artichoke & Paperclip. Now if only they would stop trotting out all the things they learned from the Nazis we might be able to get somewhere.