Chile should be the only thing you need and he left it off the time-line after quoting about it. Check it out.
You will learn all about the ending of several formerly influential companies and the founding of several new ones that are still around and apparently offering a Bing toolbar when you upgrade Java on Win now.
The entire situation is well documented and it is no secret that the private sector companies in the U.S. tech industry facilitated the overthrow of a legitimately elected leader that was attempting to revolutionize the Chilean tech industry.
Allende achieved something even the U.S. didn't have back then with his real time industrial reporting systems and we hated him for daring to move his country forward with communist assistance.
Depending on how hot you get about these things you may just start hating a couple of contemporary industry figures and wondering how the U.S. populace hasn't burned Washington to the ground several times over since WWII ended.
I agree with a lot of the things you write, Paul. I am curious if you would provide a brief explanation of whether or not you are a civilian. If yes, is the money in your bank account also civilian?
I know asking things like this can get a person in trouble, which is why I am not posting AC... no threat intended. Forgive me if the question is out of line.
James Pond 077 is an alter ego of Puffy, the OpenBSD mascot.
Those permissions are just funny in this context. I sincerely hope we find out that someone was pulling one over on the big uglies because it works really well.
Sheets of glass interest no one as an option for the future. People bring things like that up to make sure they keep the n00bs plausible and on a safe message while the hosts hit the back room for a chat about real issues.
The entire cold war was made possible by a shaking of faith in the moderating effect of modern civilization on outliers. The idea that culture was making the world into a place of beauty and power that could spread and be sustained by many people was like a salve to many European nationalists who still, by tradition, lived with the strong memory of Imperial glory.
The industrialized world has now spent sixty years picking up the pieces from the realization that appeasement in the face of certain challenges only leads one place.
The problem is that the governing structures, perennial targets for reform as well they should be, are now completely uncertain how appeasement works against an armed, angry, (occasionally)informed, and revolution capable populace.
There may be many empowered individuals that think in terms of sheets of glass, but I assure you they did not build the Cold War, they merely rent the MIC from the nightmares Hitler left.
WW3 is the one that blows out the flames of WW2.
BTW, I really enjoyed a good numbers of posts in this thread. Thanks all.
I should also mention that your Ubuntu example is insulting.
If you can't get Linux to bend to your will with a couple custom aliases you aren't doing it right.
Yeah, great, you wanted to download Shuttleworth's folly and have it do great things for you. Well, grow the fuck up. It is a computer system. Customize it.
Yeah, right. As simply as possible when you can't see under the hood to verify the simplicity. Don't even bother replying. You think that works_cause_payouts_were_made_to_vendors == simplicity .
That is about as fucking stupid as anything said by anyone I have ever met, and I have worked with people in the last stages of dementia, terminally ill patients that have endured the damage of years of chemo, and genetically damaged/disabled individuals that weren't born with the ability to moderate their own actions (prader-willi syndrome kids).
You are more fucked than any of them. Tell me what you saw that allowed you to verify the MS methodology as simple.
Even if you have something, you can't prove it, because we the public are not allowed to verify your statements. Take a dick in the ass, amigo, you deserve one for this shameless display of ignorance and unthinking.
This was covered in 2600 a couple issues ago. IIRC there was even a workaround script. This is kid stuff.
Stooges have nothing to do with it. The paradigm in the other world is for users to suck a cock unti they get a clue and change ecosystems. They don't want the people that don't suck cock, that should be clear by now.
Seems more like a gaia dreaming of her father. How else do you explain the complete and utter superiority of women coupled with the ubiquitous nonsensical dominance of the tragic male figure?
That being said, you sound like a kook, homeboy!!! Keep on.;)
Which pool do you want to be in? There are realities of participating in any of them.
True distributed development, where heirarchy exists only by transient preference, is messy by nature. When healthy it is also redundant as all get out, every contributor with an ideology or preference is a potential disrupter, and the sum of the parts cannot be determined to be equal the actual value for any particular case. In many cases the actual value is defined by the limitations of the implementor and Linux is moving at a pace that does not leave the middle curve folk behind.
Pretty much the only way to gauge the progress of a Linux distribution - not BSD because the correct method is not necessarily the proper intermediate step for all the vested parties - is to measure the acceptability of the achieved effect from multiple vantages.
Distributed development dictates that slums exist populated with the dying experiments that represented intermediate states of development in the community and in individuals.
Every distro only exists when voluntary acts of development are being actively integrated. The rest of the time you are observing an effect of prior effort that is in all ways static and dead at whatever point contributions were last vetted and merged, combined with the bias formed from past experience of the observer.
So you downloaded something and didn't feel the effect was commensurate with the expectation established in a very different development ecosystem. Deal with it. Goodbye.
Ah, the things you learn in the textfiles section of your local bbs.
It is such a beautiful thing. The haters that want to pull us down just look ugly.
Another old BBS tip ripped from Encyclopedia Brown, I think. Casting new light on a subject can reveal hidden clues. I wonder if they tried ranges of high contrast screen savers before going to the trouble of manipulating a pic.
I just tried it on a standard flatscreen and I can make fingerprints go from invisible to high contrast by moving around/.'s white background on the desktop.
Your sentiment is admirable, but I think you are way off. The investigative journalism didn't go away, it was removed from the pedestal and accorded about the same public respect as those clowns that come pouring out of the little clown car.
Many of our peers seem averse to ideas that lead somewhere. I don't fully understand why, but if a concept seems to indicate that there are more concepts about to come pouring out of the little car many humans turn away.
Anyhow, with the way the net has changed things those that are too good at investigative journalism can find themselves with control over the thing they thought they were just investigating, instead of simply reconstituting what they find for the democratic machinery to handle as their forefathers mostly did. It is a weird world, but I think this is the effect you are referencing when you suggest the journalism is gone.
The value of the distribution of knowledge is simply being applied in a different fashion instead of being spoon fed to those that don't care to maintain the tools to participate in self governance. If anything we are witnessing the end of educational welfare and the beginning of think or die. The rationcinatious rambunction has simply gone feral and to seed; the fuzzy headed hipsters hack.
When I take the time to remove my cloak of cynical fuckedness it actually looks like we could be on the verge of renaissance... You know, where everyone that comes after looks back and cannot separate the birth of a concept from the implementations; where the committing of any fact to the canon is by default a testament to the limitations of the canon, not to the endurance of man. That phenomenon also seems to be linked to changes in the manifestation the spirit that predicts investigative journalism.
Fear is only a deterrent until your opponent either believes they have nothing to lose.
On another note, yet another young'un. If these guys could just make it into their later thirties they could probably scam people the good old fashioned way: legally. Just have to get through youth.
As someone that once caused a Brit pee blood because he was a Brit I can tell you it has changed. Once upon a time terrorism was an end point for practitioners. Anyone that knew what had transpired between the Brit and myself, the types of materials to which I had access, and the political views that I espoused would have been mostly correct in identifying me as an individual likely to find my way into association with politically motivated civilian actors, possibly real terrorists.
But then the world got bigger overnight. The ability to reflect upon oneself after exposure to the whole wide world changes the entire game. Terrorism is only one application for a set of tools upon which modern society is based, and many people that don't even know they are hacking have used these tools in anger.
Any time you fuck with the medium via which your peers are experiencing life, whether through innovation or malice, you are using the terrorist skill set.
Coming up with the next killer app and coming up with the next 9-11 are both inherited from the same theory of thought. Both require the thinker to tread a line between what is and what can be. Both may be aided by obtaining privileged information about the organization, focus, capabilities, and expectations of the opposition. Anyone with half a brain that goes through the process will realize at some point that the dark side does have cookies, and you can smell them quite clearly from the intellectual vista where you commune with the muse.
There may be many reasons to choose the path of light, instead of choosing to pull a Fiorina or worse. Maybe you want to be able to eat without directly ensuring the production and safety of your food supply? How about being an artist? How about just being an art lover? The dark siders cannot do these things except through a) ignorance of the reality that their own indiscretions are particles to the waves of chaos that threaten us all or b) failing to recognize the power inherent in the existence of value systems that coexist with their own and have survived longer than any single practitioner of any single value system.
It is like there is a trough that you have to help keep filled or eat from - plenty of folk do both simultaneously. The definition of terrorist has gradually expanded in America to include everyone with the skills capable of building and filling a different trough.
I went on to join a punk band with the Brit, I played bass and let him heckle me for being so sensitive about my dead ancestors and his living ones. It was just a matter of adjusting the theory by reflection upon application, and smoking a lot of pot.
Ronnie Dugger was working with Jim Hightower back in the nineties on a project to educate voters about corporate charters and how to revoke them.
I attended a meeting in Los Angeles and was interested in their efforts but couldn't get any interest among local activists who were too busy inserting themselves into veteran/holiday parades with subversive signs, picketing rodeos for cruelty, and furiously jerking each other off to care.
Different players are mentioned in the same context here. The blurb section at the end is nice.
RIM is handing over the trade secrets and strategies of anyone who uses their product to a country that laid out the modern framework for capitalizing on connections to terrorists as leverage in dealing with the West. The Saudis are the model for Pakistan.
There will be blowback on this, but given the current state of world affairs it is just another straw on the camel's broken back.
Any tactical value to this information to be gathered from the leak is going to be gained by those who didn't have access; namely the US military's adversaries.
Namely the US Military's adversaries? That's crazy. How about the benefit to the lawmakers that are funding the war, the civilians that support the troops, and the troops that are risking their lives yet not being given real information about whether the effort is turning out to be worth anything?
These aren't adversaries, they are the people that are in charge of moderating the increasingly private sector U.S. war machine through legislation & oversight, voting booths, and direct action (ie:leading and serving with honor). If the public reactions are to be believed these are also people that were not already in possession of these materials.
The military gets secrecy only until it threatens the future of our country.
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You are automatically condemning millions of ignorant people. Posting something on FB that is legal for personal possession and not restricted by a license or copyright should be fine.
This becomes a major pain in the ass for enforcement, because once a legal photo has been bundled or torrented with illegal content by a third party the feds will identify the original legal poster as a target for inquiry.
Pain in the asses must be tolerated if we are going to move our country forward in a sane manner.
A loud alarm and some dazzlers is about as far as you could go without violating the booby trap laws. I think electrical devices not intended to explode, trigger an explosion, produce harmful vapors, or likely result in permanent loss of ability can be used safely.
There is probably still liability, but more likely civil suit for a blind spot because the idiot tried to disable a dazzler didn't realize it would shine through his eyelids at close proximity vs criminal suit for setting a trap with intent to maim.
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Chile should be the only thing you need and he left it off the time-line after quoting about it. Check it out.
You will learn all about the ending of several formerly influential companies and the founding of several new ones that are still around and apparently offering a Bing toolbar when you upgrade Java on Win now.
The entire situation is well documented and it is no secret that the private sector companies in the U.S. tech industry facilitated the overthrow of a legitimately elected leader that was attempting to revolutionize the Chilean tech industry.
Allende achieved something even the U.S. didn't have back then with his real time industrial reporting systems and we hated him for daring to move his country forward with communist assistance.
Depending on how hot you get about these things you may just start hating a couple of contemporary industry figures and wondering how the U.S. populace hasn't burned Washington to the ground several times over since WWII ended.
I always take my shoes off when I get online - penny loafers look funny when you aren't wearing any pants.
Now where is that post anonymously button... Hold on, should be on the submit page.
I agree with a lot of the things you write, Paul. I am curious if you would provide a brief explanation of whether or not you are a civilian. If yes, is the money in your bank account also civilian?
I know asking things like this can get a person in trouble, which is why I am not posting AC... no threat intended. Forgive me if the question is out of line.
Thanks,
Ush
From the link:
James Pond 077 is an alter ego of Puffy, the OpenBSD mascot.
Those permissions are just funny in this context. I sincerely hope we find out that someone was pulling one over on the big uglies because it works really well.
A good chuckle for conspiracy nuts.
Sheets of glass interest no one as an option for the future. People bring things like that up to make sure they keep the n00bs plausible and on a safe message while the hosts hit the back room for a chat about real issues.
The entire cold war was made possible by a shaking of faith in the moderating effect of modern civilization on outliers. The idea that culture was making the world into a place of beauty and power that could spread and be sustained by many people was like a salve to many European nationalists who still, by tradition, lived with the strong memory of Imperial glory.
The industrialized world has now spent sixty years picking up the pieces from the realization that appeasement in the face of certain challenges only leads one place.
The problem is that the governing structures, perennial targets for reform as well they should be, are now completely uncertain how appeasement works against an armed, angry, (occasionally)informed, and revolution capable populace.
There may be many empowered individuals that think in terms of sheets of glass, but I assure you they did not build the Cold War, they merely rent the MIC from the nightmares Hitler left.
WW3 is the one that blows out the flames of WW2.
BTW, I really enjoyed a good numbers of posts in this thread. Thanks all.
It's called Onstar.
I should also mention that your Ubuntu example is insulting.
If you can't get Linux to bend to your will with a couple custom aliases you aren't doing it right.
Yeah, great, you wanted to download Shuttleworth's folly and have it do great things for you. Well, grow the fuck up. It is a computer system. Customize it.
Yeah, right. As simply as possible when you can't see under the hood to verify the simplicity.
Don't even bother replying. You think that works_cause_payouts_were_made_to_vendors == simplicity .
That is about as fucking stupid as anything said by anyone I have ever met, and I have worked with people in the last stages of dementia, terminally ill patients that have endured the damage of years of chemo, and genetically damaged/disabled individuals that weren't born with the ability to moderate their own actions (prader-willi syndrome kids).
You are more fucked than any of them. Tell me what you saw that allowed you to verify the MS methodology as simple.
Even if you have something, you can't prove it, because we the public are not allowed to verify your statements. Take a dick in the ass, amigo, you deserve one for this shameless display of ignorance and unthinking.
This was covered in 2600 a couple issues ago. IIRC there was even a workaround script. This is kid stuff.
Stooges have nothing to do with it. The paradigm in the other world is for users to suck a cock unti they get a clue and change ecosystems. They don't want the people that don't suck cock, that should be clear by now.
Seems more like a gaia dreaming of her father. How else do you explain the complete and utter superiority of women coupled with the ubiquitous nonsensical dominance of the tragic male figure?
That being said, you sound like a kook, homeboy!!! Keep on. ;)
Which pool do you want to be in? There are realities of participating in any of them.
True distributed development, where heirarchy exists only by transient preference, is messy by nature. When healthy it is also redundant as all get out, every contributor with an ideology or preference is a potential disrupter, and the sum of the parts cannot be determined to be equal the actual value for any particular case. In many cases the actual value is defined by the limitations of the implementor and Linux is moving at a pace that does not leave the middle curve folk behind.
Pretty much the only way to gauge the progress of a Linux distribution - not BSD because the correct method is not necessarily the proper intermediate step for all the vested parties - is to measure the acceptability of the achieved effect from multiple vantages.
Distributed development dictates that slums exist populated with the dying experiments that represented intermediate states of development in the community and in individuals.
Every distro only exists when voluntary acts of development are being actively integrated. The rest of the time you are observing an effect of prior effort that is in all ways static and dead at whatever point contributions were last vetted and merged, combined with the bias formed from past experience of the observer.
So you downloaded something and didn't feel the effect was commensurate with the expectation established in a very different development ecosystem. Deal with it. Goodbye.
Ah, the things you learn in the textfiles section of your local bbs.
It is such a beautiful thing. The haters that want to pull us down just look ugly.
Another old BBS tip ripped from Encyclopedia Brown, I think. Casting new light on a subject can reveal hidden clues. I wonder if they tried ranges of high contrast screen savers before going to the trouble of manipulating a pic.
I just tried it on a standard flatscreen and I can make fingerprints go from invisible to high contrast by moving around /.'s white background on the desktop.
Your sentiment is admirable, but I think you are way off. The investigative journalism didn't go away, it was removed from the pedestal and accorded about the same public respect as those clowns that come pouring out of the little clown car.
Many of our peers seem averse to ideas that lead somewhere. I don't fully understand why, but if a concept seems to indicate that there are more concepts about to come pouring out of the little car many humans turn away.
Anyhow, with the way the net has changed things those that are too good at investigative journalism can find themselves with control over the thing they thought they were just investigating, instead of simply reconstituting what they find for the democratic machinery to handle as their forefathers mostly did. It is a weird world, but I think this is the effect you are referencing when you suggest the journalism is gone.
The value of the distribution of knowledge is simply being applied in a different fashion instead of being spoon fed to those that don't care to maintain the tools to participate in self governance. If anything we are witnessing the end of educational welfare and the beginning of think or die. The rationcinatious rambunction has simply gone feral and to seed; the fuzzy headed hipsters hack.
When I take the time to remove my cloak of cynical fuckedness it actually looks like we could be on the verge of renaissance... You know, where everyone that comes after looks back and cannot separate the birth of a concept from the implementations; where the committing of any fact to the canon is by default a testament to the limitations of the canon, not to the endurance of man. That phenomenon also seems to be linked to changes in the manifestation the spirit that predicts investigative journalism.
Primum movens, maxwell? Is that what you are asking?
Forum based communications will just encourage anti-social behavior.
Suck it.
Was your analysis recorded somewhere in the open so we can take it into consideration?
Fear is only a deterrent until your opponent either believes they have nothing to lose.
On another note, yet another young'un. If these guys could just make it into their later thirties they could probably scam people the good old fashioned way: legally. Just have to get through youth.
As someone that once caused a Brit pee blood because he was a Brit I can tell you it has changed. Once upon a time terrorism was an end point for practitioners. Anyone that knew what had transpired between the Brit and myself, the types of materials to which I had access, and the political views that I espoused would have been mostly correct in identifying me as an individual likely to find my way into association with politically motivated civilian actors, possibly real terrorists.
But then the world got bigger overnight. The ability to reflect upon oneself after exposure to the whole wide world changes the entire game. Terrorism is only one application for a set of tools upon which modern society is based, and many people that don't even know they are hacking have used these tools in anger.
Any time you fuck with the medium via which your peers are experiencing life, whether through innovation or malice, you are using the terrorist skill set.
Coming up with the next killer app and coming up with the next 9-11 are both inherited from the same theory of thought. Both require the thinker to tread a line between what is and what can be. Both may be aided by obtaining privileged information about the organization, focus, capabilities, and expectations of the opposition. Anyone with half a brain that goes through the process will realize at some point that the dark side does have cookies, and you can smell them quite clearly from the intellectual vista where you commune with the muse.
There may be many reasons to choose the path of light, instead of choosing to pull a Fiorina or worse. Maybe you want to be able to eat without directly ensuring the production and safety of your food supply? How about being an artist? How about just being an art lover? The dark siders cannot do these things except through a) ignorance of the reality that their own indiscretions are particles to the waves of chaos that threaten us all or b) failing to recognize the power inherent in the existence of value systems that coexist with their own and have survived longer than any single practitioner of any single value system.
It is like there is a trough that you have to help keep filled or eat from - plenty of folk do both simultaneously. The definition of terrorist has gradually expanded in America to include everyone with the skills capable of building and filling a different trough.
I went on to join a punk band with the Brit, I played bass and let him heckle me for being so sensitive about my dead ancestors and his living ones. It was just a matter of adjusting the theory by reflection upon application, and smoking a lot of pot.
Ronnie Dugger was working with Jim Hightower back in the nineties on a project to educate voters about corporate charters and how to revoke them.
I attended a meeting in Los Angeles and was interested in their efforts but couldn't get any interest among local activists who were too busy inserting themselves into veteran/holiday parades with subversive signs, picketing rodeos for cruelty, and furiously jerking each other off to care.
Different players are mentioned in the same context here. The blurb section at the end is nice.
RIM is handing over the trade secrets and strategies of anyone who uses their product to a country that laid out the modern framework for capitalizing on connections to terrorists as leverage in dealing with the West. The Saudis are the model for Pakistan.
There will be blowback on this, but given the current state of world affairs it is just another straw on the camel's broken back.
Any tactical value to this information to be gathered from the leak is going to be gained by those who didn't have access; namely the US military's adversaries.
Namely the US Military's adversaries? That's crazy. How about the benefit to the lawmakers that are funding the war, the civilians that support the troops, and the troops that are risking their lives yet not being given real information about whether the effort is turning out to be worth anything?
These aren't adversaries, they are the people that are in charge of moderating the increasingly private sector U.S. war machine through legislation & oversight, voting booths, and direct action (ie:leading and serving with honor). If the public reactions are to be believed these are also people that were not already in possession of these materials.
The military gets secrecy only until it threatens the future of our country.
You are automatically condemning millions of ignorant people. Posting something on FB that is legal for personal possession and not restricted by a license or copyright should be fine.
This becomes a major pain in the ass for enforcement, because once a legal photo has been bundled or torrented with illegal content by a third party the feds will identify the original legal poster as a target for inquiry.
Pain in the asses must be tolerated if we are going to move our country forward in a sane manner.
True. With the proper set up it could be better still to make sure he gets out safely with the loot.
A loud alarm and some dazzlers is about as far as you could go without violating the booby trap laws. I think electrical devices not intended to explode, trigger an explosion, produce harmful vapors, or likely result in permanent loss of ability can be used safely.
There is probably still liability, but more likely civil suit for a blind spot because the idiot tried to disable a dazzler didn't realize it would shine through his eyelids at close proximity vs criminal suit for setting a trap with intent to maim.