As I understand it from taking an archaeology class on europe, we are still coming out of a glacial period into the upswing of an interglacial period that hasn't peaked yet, so even if we humans did nothing, the planet is still going to continue to get warmer for a long long time before it goes back into a glacial period. This glacial->interglacial->glacial cycle is a normal thing that has gone on for millions of years.
It likely got modded as funny b/c when I made the post I made it in jest. Note the smiley:) But yes, some people don't have a sense of humour. You say "extremists riot" but if you look at all the people who have been rioting are they all (thousands of them around the world) really extremists or is it just that their culture/religion is at extreme odds with western cultures? I think it the latter. There doesn't really seem to be such thing as a fundamentalist Islam. Islam is a fundamentalist religion, especially if you hold the Hadiths as canonical. Before you flame me you should know that I have a minor in religious studies and I've read the Koran twice. One a Koran with Shiite commentary, the other one a Wahaabist published Koran. Before you disagree I suggest you go and read the book "Why I am not a Muslim" by Ibn Warraq, a former Muslim now secularist.
It also seems that Miguel is so pro microsoft it's scary, and as soon as that nice big Microsoft that Miguel admires so much gets annoyed enough with mono they are going to sue the living crap out of the people involved because of patent infringement. Why are these people spending all of this time helping to further a microsoft technology, that MS holds patents on? I could understand if it was a standard *and* not patent encumbered, but this is just playing with fire. MS may employ many nice folks, but it itself as an entity is *not* nice.
No custom software at all. One of our clients happens to involve the "authorities." They have very specific requirements for support and software.
I'm amazed. Astounded.
Do you have time to fix busted code across more than 100 different software applications? Across environments that are not connected to each other? Across different clients? On different OS/Hardware platforms? When you also have to look after many other pieces of the environment, and architect, and document, and deploy for each environment simultaneously? I doubt it. It's easy to sit on your high horse and "take the moral high ground" while criticizing, but in reality idealisms rarely work out. It would be nice to go around and muck in the sourcecode of all my software (if it were possible) to fix issues, but really, that's just not practical. (I don't have any issues with applying patches and upgrading software to new versions.)
I don't disbelieve you, but I have never seen an operation that worked like that, ever.
Then go work for a large outsourcer/consulting company.
I meant that if I used openssh, it would have to be supported by RedHat (as that is the distributor), and in order for it to do what I want it to do, I need an ssh server that does logging of sftp down/uploads, etc. The only way to make openssh do that is to patch it, at which point RedHat then will not support it. My only option at this point is to stick to a commercial ssh product.
I am not the software vendor for my client. I'm the integrator and administrator and our contract stipulates that all parts of the system must be supported. It would be nice if I could support all of the software that I install, but I'm one *nix guy in a datacenter that supports many many many unix machines as well as firewalls, SAN's, network monitoring, mail servers, fileservers, NAS, (etc. you get the picture) across vastly different environments. I just don't have the time or inclination to fix busted software at the source code level. I could, but I have better things to do with my time.
Besides, at the end of the day I don't want to be completely burned out. I still need energy for other things, like writing lineak lineak.sourceforge.net
The point is vshell is supported by a vendor. OpenSSH is only supported by RedHat as a vendor if I don't patch it to include sftp logging capabilities.
And is is part of the standard distro? No. What is that important? b/c of our support agreements. RedHat will only support unmodified binaries that come with their distro. RedHat and it's support are required by my client.
Still no logging of sftp/scp transfers?
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Sigh. Back to my commercial (vandyke vshelld) implementation....
The Lakota indians would not agree with you. According to their culture, they always had horses. It makes sense too, how did the plains indians, in such a short time become superior riders to the europeans who had had horses for a long long time? Another thing that happened is that there was an order from the US government that all horses on reservations were to be exterminated so that the indians wouldn't leave. The problem is compounded by the fact that when archaeologists find horse remains in a north american dig, they don't bother dating them, they just assume that they are post-columbus in age.
There is now a small effort underway to date these bones and determine their actual origin.
Rumours are: Keith Packard of X.org going too
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I'm at OLS and the rumour is that Keith Packard and Jim Gettys are also going.
>As with anything, the most cost effective transition will begin on its own when the time is right.
I disagree. I work for Canada's largest IT consulting company and in my experience the transition will begin when people become forced to transition, cost effective or not.
The fact of the matter is that Linux gained grass roots popularity because it is open source and in many cases free as in beer, which gave it a great amount of flexibility. Now that it has corporate momentum the fact that it is open source is not it's strongest selling point with the majority of big business customers. Stronger selling points are it's low cost, flexibility, user friendliness (compared to traditional unix), amount of applications available, and it's an alternative to Microsoft.
If being open source was the big hot button of large businesses then why are the BSD's not more popular than Linux in terms of mindshare and visibility if not installed base?
Linux has mindshare with both developers and businesses. That is something that "Open Source" Solaris cannot easily attain. There's also the fact that while Solaris is "Open Source" it's license is still more restrictive than the GPL, and it's controlled by one company, so there is almost no chance that developers from the Linux community will make the jump to Solaris.
Where do you live? The only place in Canada where I've lived (I've lived in BC/Alberta/Ontario) that you can see your GP the same day is B.C. and that was over 10 years ago now, so I don't know if that's still true. In Ottawa, if I want to see my GP, I need to book an appt. 2 months in advance. If I want to see a specialist I have to book 6 months or more in advance. Of course, I could go to a walk in clinic and wait for 3 hours to see a GP (who doesn't know me).
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Ok, so then what is going to happen in the winter? How do they protect this thing from snow? (I live in Ontario.)
As I understand it from taking an archaeology class on europe, we are still coming out of a glacial period into the upswing of an interglacial period that hasn't peaked yet, so even if we humans did nothing, the planet is still going to continue to get warmer for a long long time before it goes back into a glacial period. This glacial->interglacial->glacial cycle is a normal thing that has gone on for millions of years.
I tried the Betas and RC's. Not much of an improvement, until their table support is on par with MS Office and OO.org it's going to be a non-starter.
I'd love to use it, but the table support is sooooo bad compared to OOW or MS Office that I just can't use it.
What have you been smoking? This is just a crackpot as intelligent design!
I'm also LDS (a mormon) and I agree with you 100%. I'm actually an evolutionist as well and I don't find any conflict between my religion and science.
It likely got modded as funny b/c when I made the post I made it in jest. Note the smiley :) But yes, some people don't have a sense of humour. You say "extremists riot" but if you look at all the people who have been rioting are they all (thousands of them around the world) really extremists or is it just that their culture/religion is at extreme odds with western cultures? I think it the latter. There doesn't really seem to be such thing as a fundamentalist Islam. Islam is a fundamentalist religion, especially if you hold the Hadiths as canonical. Before you flame me you should know that I have a minor in religious studies and I've read the Koran twice. One a Koran with Shiite commentary, the other one a Wahaabist published Koran. Before you disagree I suggest you go and read the book "Why I am not a Muslim" by Ibn Warraq, a former Muslim now secularist.
Here we go again, Good thing Yahoo doesn't have embassies to torch. :)
Wouldn't "Anti-Christmas Forces, Middle-East" make a lot more sense?
It also seems that Miguel is so pro microsoft it's scary, and as soon as that nice big Microsoft that Miguel admires so much gets annoyed enough with mono they are going to sue the living crap out of the people involved because of patent infringement. Why are these people spending all of this time helping to further a microsoft technology, that MS holds patents on? I could understand if it was a standard *and* not patent encumbered, but this is just playing with fire. MS may employ many nice folks, but it itself as an entity is *not* nice.
No custom software at all. One of our clients happens to involve the "authorities." They have very specific requirements for support and software.
I'm amazed. Astounded.
Do you have time to fix busted code across more than 100 different software applications? Across environments that are not connected to each other? Across different clients? On different OS/Hardware platforms? When you also have to look after many other pieces of the environment, and architect, and document, and deploy for each environment simultaneously? I doubt it. It's easy to sit on your high horse and "take the moral high ground" while criticizing, but in reality idealisms rarely work out. It would be nice to go around and muck in the sourcecode of all my software (if it were possible) to fix issues, but really, that's just not practical. (I don't have any issues with applying patches and upgrading software to new versions.)
I don't disbelieve you, but I have never seen an operation that worked like that, ever.
Then go work for a large outsourcer/consulting company.
I meant that if I used openssh, it would have to be supported by RedHat (as that is the distributor), and in order for it to do what I want it to do, I need an ssh server that does logging of sftp down/uploads, etc. The only way to make openssh do that is to patch it, at which point RedHat then will not support it. My only option at this point is to stick to a commercial ssh product.
I am not the software vendor for my client. I'm the integrator and administrator and our contract stipulates that all parts of the system must be supported. It would be nice if I could support all of the software that I install, but I'm one *nix guy in a datacenter that supports many many many unix machines as well as firewalls, SAN's, network monitoring, mail servers, fileservers, NAS, (etc. you get the picture) across vastly different environments. I just don't have the time or inclination to fix busted software at the source code level. I could, but I have better things to do with my time.
Besides, at the end of the day I don't want to be completely burned out. I still need energy for other things, like writing lineak lineak.sourceforge.net
The point is vshell is supported by a vendor. OpenSSH is only supported by RedHat as a vendor if I don't patch it to include sftp logging capabilities.
Why don't you check your logic before posting?
And is is part of the standard distro? No. What is that important? b/c of our support agreements. RedHat will only support unmodified binaries that come with their distro. RedHat and it's support are required by my client.
Sigh. Back to my commercial (vandyke vshelld) implementation....
Even in Canada the price is now up to $1.40 a litre or more in some places. FYI, 4 liters ~= 1 gallon.
The Lakota indians would not agree with you. According to their culture, they always had horses. It makes sense too, how did the plains indians, in such a short time become superior riders to the europeans who had had horses for a long long time? Another thing that happened is that there was an order from the US government that all horses on reservations were to be exterminated so that the indians wouldn't leave. The problem is compounded by the fact that when archaeologists find horse remains in a north american dig, they don't bother dating them, they just assume that they are post-columbus in age.
There is now a small effort underway to date these bones and determine their actual origin.
I'm at OLS and the rumour is that Keith Packard and Jim Gettys are also going.
>As with anything, the most cost effective transition will begin on its own when the time is right.
I disagree. I work for Canada's largest IT consulting company and in my experience the transition will begin when people become forced to transition, cost effective or not.
I don't understand the issue. The KDE printer control has always been a great CUPS admin tool. I've never had a problem with it.
http://leewen.unfranchise.com with http://www.marketamerica.com no it's not a scam, and yes I know it's not for everyone, but it works for me.
The fact of the matter is that Linux gained grass roots popularity because it is open source and in many cases free as in beer, which gave it a great amount of flexibility. Now that it has corporate momentum the fact that it is open source is not it's strongest selling point with the majority of big business customers. Stronger selling points are it's low cost, flexibility, user friendliness (compared to traditional unix), amount of applications available, and it's an alternative to Microsoft.
If being open source was the big hot button of large businesses then why are the BSD's not more popular than Linux in terms of mindshare and visibility if not installed base?
Linux has mindshare with both developers and businesses. That is something that "Open Source" Solaris cannot easily attain. There's also the fact that while Solaris is "Open Source" it's license is still more restrictive than the GPL, and it's controlled by one company, so there is almost no chance that developers from the Linux community will make the jump to Solaris.
It's not just Texas, it's all of North America (well, Canada and the US anyway.) We are so wasteful it's silly.
Too bad swing is slower than snot. (At least it was a couple years ago when I used it last.)
Where do you live? The only place in Canada where I've lived (I've lived in BC/Alberta/Ontario) that you can see your GP the same day is B.C. and that was over 10 years ago now, so I don't know if that's still true. In Ottawa, if I want to see my GP, I need to book an appt. 2 months in advance. If I want to see a specialist I have to book 6 months or more in advance. Of course, I could go to a walk in clinic and wait for 3 hours to see a GP (who doesn't know me).