Vogel's point was only that it would take longer to hack, which would lead to more sales during the first early weeks - basically when all the money is made.
Hopefully after that they patch out the bullshit DRM so people who didn't want to deal with it might buy the game too.
I'm not a pimply teenage script kiddy that gets his thrills breaking the law.
I had a rather clear complexion in my script-kiddy days.
Truthfully, I've gone from "getting off on it" to "taking it for granted". Downloading's the norm for me, it doesn't seem "wrong", it doesn't seem anything. I grew up broker than broke, though. A computer and internet was all I had and all I really wanted. Now things are kind of changing, I'm much more financially stable and I'm starting to cough up for stuff that previously I wouldn't have. Since I got a PS3 I've felt no particular strain in paying for games for it and I've bought some PC games recently because Steam makes it so damned convenient.
"For every used game sold, the game editor gets ZERO."
They already got their money, on the original sale. They have no right to any other money because they no longer own the item in question. Don't like that? Then don't deal in tangible/tradable goods. This of course is why game companies love downloadable sales. They can cut out used games when everything is virtualized.
With how much money they're charging for games as it is it's criminal to ask for any more.
Huh, I guess with all this heavy-handed DRM on PC games it's time to focus on downloading console games. I'm sure it won't be long before we have a PS3 crack with the recent proof-of-concept.
1. Eliminate Evil Competition 2. Soak up customers 3. Be really nice to customers. 4. Keep being nice to customers. 5. After being well established as a monopoly, keep being nice to customers. 6. Rule world as benevolent ultraconglomerate. 7. Wait until after complete world domination to turn evil.
They have placed malignant rootkits on their audio CDs that compromised PCs
Their quality over a period dropped significantly from their heyday in the 70s-80s
They did underhanded deals to foist a sub-optimal solution (Blu-Ray) on everyone
They continue to champion DRM to screw their customers over under the guise of "sticking it to the pirates" when the only thing they're doing is moving the population towards acceptance of a pay to play revenue model
They are the reason we have Celine Dion
I think any of those alone are enough reason to boycott any company. Put more than one into a single company and there's no excuse to buy anything from them.
I feel much the same, though I do have a lot of my father's stuff from when he died and he was a Sony fanatic... and I got a PS3 recently because my partner and I wanted something but Microsoft is Microsoft and the Wii just isn't terribly exciting. That, and Nintendo is really starting to piss me off.
All the contenders are showing their corporate inhumanity and facelessness. Microsoft started a long time ago, Nintendo is desperately seeking to stamp out homebrew solutions and Sony has just done a lot of shitty things.
Microsoft's got it the worst because of how many markets they've enveloped. They can accidentally "do evil" in so many ways and there will always be hundreds of new people who can find something new to bitch about.
Nintendo has a name that they seek to keep pristine when it's impossible... their habits of rejecting tinkering and death grip on ancient and irrelevant copyrights drives them to all sorts of clever ways to piss off their customers.
Sony is a hardware company who just happens to depend on software to keep them afloat. Not only do they not have the intrinsic incentive to keep their customers happy with the software complements of their hardware, they've come too late in the game to understand what that even means. They grew before they culturally matured, not to mention they're not even from the US culture.
Worst of all, the entire realm of gaming as a big, professional product can only be ruled by the titans; no matter how innovative or novel a concept a new entrant may come up with, they'll never survive the collisions necessary to keep pace with the rivals.
So, yes. The choices really are to either accept the evil, not get involved or just stick to a world apart from these corporations and big-production gaming.
Well, it sounds like you're pretty set without resorting to that awful thing Ubisoft is trying to defend against. Damn you decent, fair-playing customers for driving games to include draconian DRM that will only effect you!
Some rootkits are intentional, like some viruses (I guess they're not really viruses then). As an option, sure, but as a regular part of the update process it can be dangerous.
[quote]"An iPhone insurance carrier says that four in six claims are suspicious, and is worse when a new model appears on the market. 'Supercover Insurance is alleging that many iPhone owners are deliberately smashing their devices and filing false claims in order to upgrade to the latest model. The gadget insurance company told Sky News Sunday that it saw a 50-percent rise in claims during the month Apple launched the latest version, the iPhone 3GS.'"[/quote]
So it isn't just possible that the iPhone is easily broken because it's a big piece of glass, a big LCD and virtually any point of pressure on it will easily break one or both?
Anonymous is democracy at its finest. It may not be anyone's personal army, but if enough people particularly agree with something there will be more than enough motivation and little fear of retaliation.
Of course, if "Operation Ubistorm" really does get started, I preemptively take no credit for it.
[...] I was likely going to get Assassin's Creed 2. AC1 was pretty damn fun. I didn't get it when it came out because didn't seem like my kind of game, but I got it on sale and man, I liked it. So AC2 was on the list of potentials for me.
Not any more. I will absolutely NOT put up with DRM like this. [...]
[..] The really funny thing is, of course, it won't hurt the pirates at all. Those versions will have it patched out so they'll have a good game experience. [...]
Sounds like the solution for you or anyone else facing this problem is fairly obvious.
So, with this... Ubisoft is effectively giving any individual the power to destroy their company, the entertainment of probably hundreds of thousands of customers and create an instant PR nightmare that hopefully will stay in the minds of publishers forever.
I really like the games Ubisoft has come out with, but if their death (or more likely selling to someone else or rebranding) is what it takes to make publishers take a step back, I feel it is worth it.
New games need to get rid of auto health regeneration or at least make it a power up / upgrade that uses power.
I don't that deus ex 3 will have it deus ex 1 had a good system it was a upgrade that used up power. IF you don't want people to back track a lot add more med kits / have no limit on how many you can carry at one time.
Nonsense, auto-regen and more health kits are both desperate hacks to the real problem: Bullets need to stop hurting so much!
Honestly I'd like to see more games that, you know, actually make bullets lethal and humans much more human. I'd have fun with that.
I never get pissed at games, I just can't understand when anyone throws a fit over getting shot or something. I either step away and come back later or push until I succeed.
What's depressing about how I treat gaming, however, is that it's nothing like how I treat life.
As a gamer who has made purchasing decisions based on the fact that PSN is free and Xbox Live costs money, I believe this would be a big negative for Sony at a time when they are actually making headway in the console wars. The only way I see this working out is if all the current services offered by PSN are free and these new features are optional, not essential for having a good gaming experience, and priced modestly. Otherwise, I think this will amount to Sony shooting themselves in the foot when they have momentum, just like they did with the PS2 to PS3 transition.
Yeah, I just bought a PS3 last weekend and that purchase was based on PSN membership being without cost. I'm a little outraged at the thought that they're even considering charging for the service now
It could have been much worse. Thank God windows does not understand the ext fs.
Not natively, but you can read EXT2 and 3 with "EXT Installable File System". Works great, gives Windows a good opportunity to kill your GNU/Linux installations too.
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Vogel's point was only that it would take longer to hack, which would lead to more sales during the first early weeks - basically when all the money is made.
Hopefully after that they patch out the bullshit DRM so people who didn't want to deal with it might buy the game too.
So... just add your own save feature to the game.
I'm not a pimply teenage script kiddy that gets his thrills breaking the law.
I had a rather clear complexion in my script-kiddy days.
Truthfully, I've gone from "getting off on it" to "taking it for granted". Downloading's the norm for me, it doesn't seem "wrong", it doesn't seem anything. I grew up broker than broke, though. A computer and internet was all I had and all I really wanted. Now things are kind of changing, I'm much more financially stable and I'm starting to cough up for stuff that previously I wouldn't have. Since I got a PS3 I've felt no particular strain in paying for games for it and I've bought some PC games recently because Steam makes it so damned convenient.
"For every used game sold, the game editor gets ZERO."
They already got their money, on the original sale. They have no right to any other money because they no longer own the item in question. Don't like that? Then don't deal in tangible/tradable goods. This of course is why game companies love downloadable sales. They can cut out used games when everything is virtualized.
With how much money they're charging for games as it is it's criminal to ask for any more.
Huh, I guess with all this heavy-handed DRM on PC games it's time to focus on downloading console games. I'm sure it won't be long before we have a PS3 crack with the recent proof-of-concept.
The Google EZ-Plan to Do No Evil.
1. Eliminate Evil Competition
2. Soak up customers
3. Be really nice to customers.
4. Keep being nice to customers.
5. After being well established as a monopoly, keep being nice to customers.
6. Rule world as benevolent ultraconglomerate.
7. Wait until after complete world domination to turn evil.
I don't buy Sony products because:
I think any of those alone are enough reason to boycott any company. Put more than one into a single company and there's no excuse to buy anything from them.
I feel much the same, though I do have a lot of my father's stuff from when he died and he was a Sony fanatic... and I got a PS3 recently because my partner and I wanted something but Microsoft is Microsoft and the Wii just isn't terribly exciting. That, and Nintendo is really starting to piss me off.
All the contenders are showing their corporate inhumanity and facelessness. Microsoft started a long time ago, Nintendo is desperately seeking to stamp out homebrew solutions and Sony has just done a lot of shitty things.
Microsoft's got it the worst because of how many markets they've enveloped. They can accidentally "do evil" in so many ways and there will always be hundreds of new people who can find something new to bitch about.
Nintendo has a name that they seek to keep pristine when it's impossible... their habits of rejecting tinkering and death grip on ancient and irrelevant copyrights drives them to all sorts of clever ways to piss off their customers.
Sony is a hardware company who just happens to depend on software to keep them afloat. Not only do they not have the intrinsic incentive to keep their customers happy with the software complements of their hardware, they've come too late in the game to understand what that even means. They grew before they culturally matured, not to mention they're not even from the US culture.
Worst of all, the entire realm of gaming as a big, professional product can only be ruled by the titans; no matter how innovative or novel a concept a new entrant may come up with, they'll never survive the collisions necessary to keep pace with the rivals.
So, yes. The choices really are to either accept the evil, not get involved or just stick to a world apart from these corporations and big-production gaming.
Well, it sounds like you're pretty set without resorting to that awful thing Ubisoft is trying to defend against. Damn you decent, fair-playing customers for driving games to include draconian DRM that will only effect you!
That would be one less dollar he'd have to worry about!
Some rootkits are intentional, like some viruses (I guess they're not really viruses then). As an option, sure, but as a regular part of the update process it can be dangerous.
[quote]"An iPhone insurance carrier says that four in six claims are suspicious, and is worse when a new model appears on the market. 'Supercover Insurance is alleging that many iPhone owners are deliberately smashing their devices and filing false claims in order to upgrade to the latest model. The gadget insurance company told Sky News Sunday that it saw a 50-percent rise in claims during the month Apple launched the latest version, the iPhone 3GS.'"[/quote]
So it isn't just possible that the iPhone is easily broken because it's a big piece of glass, a big LCD and virtually any point of pressure on it will easily break one or both?
Anonymous is democracy at its finest. It may not be anyone's personal army, but if enough people particularly agree with something there will be more than enough motivation and little fear of retaliation.
Of course, if "Operation Ubistorm" really does get started, I preemptively take no credit for it.
[...] I was likely going to get Assassin's Creed 2. AC1 was pretty damn fun. I didn't get it when it came out because didn't seem like my kind of game, but I got it on sale and man, I liked it. So AC2 was on the list of potentials for me.
Not any more. I will absolutely NOT put up with DRM like this. [...]
[..] The really funny thing is, of course, it won't hurt the pirates at all. Those versions will have it patched out so they'll have a good game experience. [...]
Sounds like the solution for you or anyone else facing this problem is fairly obvious.
So, with this... Ubisoft is effectively giving any individual the power to destroy their company, the entertainment of probably hundreds of thousands of customers and create an instant PR nightmare that hopefully will stay in the minds of publishers forever.
I really like the games Ubisoft has come out with, but if their death (or more likely selling to someone else or rebranding) is what it takes to make publishers take a step back, I feel it is worth it.
I can't describe how excited I am to see the /. story on that!
*goes to 4chan and starts the Operation Ubistorm meme*
At least they're not letting all those typos go to waste!
Terrorism just doesn't scare me.
Then... I guess it really isn't terrorism!
every time someone asks me "if I fix computers"... because we all know what that usually means. "No, I sure don't" is what I tell 'em.
I never really put much thought into it, but yeah... that's exactly what that means.
Oh, Snap, perhaps?
Never say die! Never quit while you're ahead!
I never would have guessed the ultimate demise of the RIAA would be themselves.
New games need to get rid of auto health regeneration or at least make it a power up / upgrade that uses power.
I don't that deus ex 3 will have it deus ex 1 had a good system it was a upgrade that used up power. IF you don't want people to back track a lot add more med kits / have no limit on how many you can carry at one time.
Nonsense, auto-regen and more health kits are both desperate hacks to the real problem: Bullets need to stop hurting so much!
Honestly I'd like to see more games that, you know, actually make bullets lethal and humans much more human. I'd have fun with that.
I never get pissed at games, I just can't understand when anyone throws a fit over getting shot or something. I either step away and come back later or push until I succeed.
What's depressing about how I treat gaming, however, is that it's nothing like how I treat life.
As a gamer who has made purchasing decisions based on the fact that PSN is free and Xbox Live costs money, I believe this would be a big negative for Sony at a time when they are actually making headway in the console wars. The only way I see this working out is if all the current services offered by PSN are free and these new features are optional, not essential for having a good gaming experience, and priced modestly. Otherwise, I think this will amount to Sony shooting themselves in the foot when they have momentum, just like they did with the PS2 to PS3 transition.
Yeah, I just bought a PS3 last weekend and that purchase was based on PSN membership being without cost. I'm a little outraged at the thought that they're even considering charging for the service now
It could have been much worse. Thank God windows does not understand the ext fs.
Not natively, but you can read EXT2 and 3 with "EXT Installable File System". Works great, gives Windows a good opportunity to kill your GNU/Linux installations too.
4. When was the last time you updated Ubuntu? In my experience that OS needs a lot more patching than Windows. All OSes need patching. Live with it.
Sort of toe-to-toe for me lately.