Hi; Christian, Conservative guy, here. You know, the one you mark as 'troll' all the time because you have such "open" minds?
I didn't realize he was treated so badly; it's no way for one of the most competent thinkers in mankind's history to be treated.
Ya see, when science and religion don't agree, we have bad science, or bad theology. In this case, it was bad theology. Nothing in the Bible suggests nor infers the movement of all bodies around this one.
Nothing.
There *is* however a line in Genesis that declares that "Earth is suspended from nothign" and it talks about a once-for-mankind event where "two are in a field [daytime], one will be taken, one will be left" and curiously "two are in their beds asleep,[night time] one will be taken, one will be left". This despite the certainty lacked at the time of it's writing, suggests the Earth is round.
The problem you guys have with Christianity is the PEOPLE who practice it. People are people, and they have their weaknesses. In this case, the Pope was trying to assert Earth's locational center, as well as it's importance-center.
But let's remember this (or similarly-timed) pope decided from thin air that Mary Magelene, a woman he'd never met, and had no reason to believe so, was a prostitute.
Other popes declared the "Prophecy of Malochi" to have named EVERY POPE THAT WILL BE! (But notice nowdays how every pope gives up his old name, and uses the one in the "prophesy" under which to work.
Just because a fraction of the people in Christendom are wonky, don't suggest they all are. Have you never met a wonky person elsewhere?
I was saved in August a few years back. I know the purpose of this place and the reason I get bonked on this system. I know why ghosts do what they do, and back up as much as possible with the fossil record. The explosion of phyla in the Cambrian Era? This reality starting as a burst of light? The Bible got those right, already.
Now tell me how, and we'll have a great conversation!
Perhaps the same people that convinced us that "there must be human life everywhere, like on Star Trek" on "millions and millions" of worlds was the same guy who told us there'd be flying cars.
I know what the movies have said for so long...isn't it *possible* we're alone?
Our existence looks like quite a long-shot; 90% of the stars out there don't have so much as terra firma, much less ATM machines.
Every time NASA foists a planet "Just like Earth" it comes with a 15G gravity or really, really, really bad hotel service.:)
But it's more than that. For man to evolve and even *know* other planets exist, for example, they have to be on planets far enough from black holes AND in places where the view is not obscured.
What will happen to science as we get better and better sensors and we can't find anyone/thing suggesting intelligence? Will it survive?
There's one party constantly reminding us that sex is safe (it's not) that drugs are something everyone should try (they shouldn't) and some people are just 'inconvenient' like the unborn, the elderly that smell bad, and anyone who votes republican. And all decisions, including whether to allow you to be a doctor, or whether you get a loan for college depends on how you treat the politburo. And assuming you GET to buy a house, they'll be deciding whether you get a loan.
(This is today, not near-future: this is now law.)
Then we have the right. It knows sex is, and will always be dangerous. Ask the tsunami of STD victims. Ask the single mothers with multiple 'baby daddies' that now seem normal. Ask drug victims....no, wait: they're dead.
It doesn't want porn distributed freely like free samples at a public outing, it wants you to be happy, and to keep the government out of your life as much as possible. It DOES NOT want to convert you; that's both a promise of the founders AND the Christians you fear for some reason.
But there is a truth: mankind operates in an 'envelope'. Having his *every* whim destroys him. There are things he needs, things he should avoid, and some of what he needs is to make his own decisions and have a reason to wake every morning; a purpose- something to do. Not welfare.
6,000 years ago this 'envelope' was identified and given to mankind, and every time he's stepped outside it, there's crime in the streets, there's rampant flesh markets, disease, and most of all: suffering. How many times must we cycle through this to get it right?
If we HAVE a hard-right demographic among us, what does it look like? The TEA Parties are individuals following historic tradition of dissent and outrage, followed by a change in voting. No violence, not even trashing the place. Both suggestions come from the TV, not reality. Kinda like, Sarah Palin never saying the words "I can see Russia from my back porch" because Tina Fey did.
But no Nazi comparisons, please: you farts are too young to truly remember that horror. And this is nothing like it; it's an honest attempt to get freedom back, period. Going back to the government that doesn't butt in, the government that actually *protects* you during a war, not helping, and bowing to, the enemy. A place where work is the only thing between you and your dreams.
Our televisions are set on Left-Central. So where's this big right-wing storm-trooping going on?
No, you've already got the hat; the pointed one of the left that simultaneously tells us you're racially unbiased, then pushes for racial quotas for hiring, even at the Supreme Court where wisdom matters most.
Or at the union level, where union leaders take in BILLIONS of dollars that goes to the democrat party (the native, but not only home of progressivism) in the name of "keeping wages high for the dignity of the American worker".
Well, the democrats take that money and find any possible way to open the borders. Feel free to check. A handful of progressive republicans do this, like McCain and Graham, and they get the ire of the rest of us.
Tell me, with your pointed hat firmly affixed, how does funding the party trying to open the borders protect the jobs of the Americans?
I know it's tough; you have programming to defeat. But listen to Limbaugh anyway. There's no gotcha-moment, there's how things happen by "ducks and bunnies" on one side of the argument, and political realities, historical proof and proven theories on the other.
As I told the other guy: no one spends their way into prosperity. Ask the Japanese government, Greece, France, and all other losing people who have tried and failed. Spending money is not generating money (other than for political friends).
Six times now, supply-side economics have been used, and six times they have worked. If the president's intention was to improve things, why isn't he using the proven-good method?
Have you listened to the video clips of this guy?
Have you seen his now-cabinet members as they lionize savage communist leaders that killed millions of their own people, and whose countries lead the way in loss of personal freedom?
Have you heard of Cloward and Piven, two guys who got their PhD's by suggesting everyone on welfare would be a unique and wonderful world? They're now working in the adminstration.
Are you aware his friend, advisor and political helper bombed the Pentagon, and "didn't go far enough" in his efforts?
I'm sorry- where's the tin-hat come in? This stuff's on YouTube and all over the place. There's no hidden conspiracy: they tell us in their own words.
Well, he predicted everything we're seeing today, nearly two years ago. Perhaps your programming is just a little to overpowering?
Seriously; if you think Limbaugh is a bad source of information, you more unaware than you know.
Or...
Maybe you can explain how, spending so much money we have to borrow until we're about to collapse brings us into prosperity. Do you have an answer for that, oh, smarter-than-me?
Cause, see- I'm a nutcase. I know that lowering tax rates puts businesses back in action and gets people hired. I know this, because the last SIX TIMES it was tried, it worked just fine. This is the key problem with the progressives; they want full control, and to do that, they're taking down the economy.
[I know I'm a heretic to this liberal, big-government crowd, but while I'm still here, it's important you guys get some truth. I'll be modded down, but that only shows how "open minded" you guys are.]
Let's see:
Nationalization of the car companies, yanking people's life savings and giving it to the unions didn't tick you off? You, the taxpayer are now going to pay for those sky-high union pensions.
It ain't over: every time a union pension can't be paid (the worker invested $30,000 for a $3,000.000 payout!) from a city, state, or EU member nation, YOU'LL BE ASKED TO PAY FOR IT. It's already happening, now. It's a part of Greece's problems.
Just like Spain, the myth of "Green Jobs" being created by doing LESS will make sure jobs are hard to find for quite some time. "Green Jobs" are a lie.
He's taking over the internet the way he took over the healthcare industry, which was damaged in the FIRST PLACE by congressional meddling. You guys think it's a win against Comcast- it's a win against YOU. Mark my words; I'm nearly 50 and I've seen this before.
Bush was a progressive, like Obama, but at least he wanted to actually FIGHT the war we're in. With as much as he spent in 8 years, Obama has spent more IN JUST ONE YEAR. And, we're on the hook for about $3T/year for healthcare. It's a disaster.
He wants to institute Cap-and-Trade so that he can decide which companies get to live, and which ones will fail.
He's ending all the school loan programs, so if you're a friend to the big government, YOU can get a school loan. Congress made the guarantees, so colleges had no reason to lower costs...so you're suckered. He's growing a housing monopoly, too. Only one place to go to get a home loan- the big government. Everyone else is getting shut down because of another congressional disaster, the Community ReInvestment Act that forces banks to lose $200,000 when a person of color goes into a bank and must be given a loan, EVEN IF HE HAS NO JOB.
Legalized bank robbery. 150 banks closed last year, it's ahead of schedule, this year.
He wants everyone on welfare, with a handful of multi-billionaires to be the only "private sector", just like every other socialist nation.
Notice I never mentioned skin color. I don't care. It's no concern that my president is black; my concern is that he's RED.
But because he wants to screw up NASA too, NOW you get angry?
Turn off the state-run media. MAKE YOURSELF listen to Limbaugh. You'll quickly learn he's color-blind, non-homophobic and has a lot of good, historically proven ideas. What you know of him are lies.
Most important you'll learn to stop voting for people causing the problem!
I'm sure we're gonna find some little nose-hair of some alien being that'll PROVE Christianity's just a farce.:)
(It won't, I promise you. You're in MORE danger of proving the Bible right in MORE ways than disproving it.)
Ya know, if it's all random, outta-nowhere conversion of light into matter, and this is just one of a billion Earths all class-M and full of apples and watermelons....
Why bother to study science at all? Randomness would have no 'secret' to decode, right? Pull out of science classes; drink more, don't you watch TV? Have random sex, hurt other people- nothing matters.
Unless it does.
There are dozens of proofs in the Bible; why not investigate for yourself? I used to be like any one of you guys; I used to CARE if a woolly-mammoth was found on another planted. Do you think I reached this conclusion by anything but the same logic you guys are using *right*now*?
Call me if you see a light-speed capable ship. I have a life to live.
I'm with ya bud; I was gonna ask the same thing. But see, there's not 2,000 or 3,000 viruses out there, waiting to get in...there are in excess of 2,000,000 the last I looked.
This is one VERY cool advancement. I'd just like to see Windows get the same kinda advancement for a change. Everyone I know's stuck in that circus...
The Big Bang is documented. It was the creation of this reality, see also: Einstein's theory of relativity. The Bible was the only ancient document that got this one right.
Evolution's a little weak; based mostly on a theory of a guy who couldn't see INTO a cell, and assumed the animals and man took the same track. His work doesn't even define important concepts such as "species".
But then we get to ManMadeGlobalWarming(TM) and we find a whole different idea: science for cash. Look around: how much of this is being funded, since Margret Thatcher used it for the first time in the late 70's?
And the things we've been told to BELIEVE!
- Cold winter AND hot winters both mean man is changing the climate.
- Mankind can exude so much CO2 that it actually matters.
- The hot-times before industry didn't really happen, no matter what the fossil record says.
These three items should be enough to spark a recursion of theories and check one another for accuracy, but no: WE'RE SELLING PIECES OF PAPER THAT SAYS WE'LL PLANT A TREE SO YOU CAN TAKE THAT CAR TRIP IN YOUR SUV.
Please, guys; just think for yourself a minute: when money dries up for almost *all* science, then opens up for climate science that says we're in danger, isn't that a clue?
You guys are foolish when it comes to religion, but you're all so SMART in details. When a washed-up congressman and has-been starts showing you charts and telling you "the debate is over, send me money" DOES THAT NOT STRIKE YOU AS EVANGELISM?
Have you guys NOT made fun of a number of evangelists for less?
When religion and science disagree, we have bad science or bad theology. It's why I believe firmly in an old (14B year) Earth, cavemen, all this stuff. But to believe Al Gore has a clue...I mean, THAT TAKES SOME FAITH!
(And let's not forget: the two charts he uses, rolling them around on wheels, asking "Is there anything these have in common?" are the evidence you need. CO2 is exuded 800 years AFTER the ocean gets "hot", and spews it to COOL the atmo. Read closer.)
An interesting take on the problem; it scored you 4 points, I'll be 'trolled' for mine.
Isn't Microsoft the most widely-run operating system in the world? Are they not supposed to be the most capable, therefore? How many times have we heard how we should use their software because they will control spam, make the internet safe and make computing more fun?
Each and ever time they make a release.
You'd think after 2 decades they'd get around to doing some of that. And what's the WORST PLACE to show you can't pull it off?
Oh, sure- they can do this, or don't; it's a business decision, but that's the easy first-glance.
The fact they can't keep problems at bay on their own website speaks VOLUMES. They are, running these systems on Windows machines, right?
This whacko published a lie; he propogated it like any other not-quite-reviewed aspect of science.
But see, Al Gore took this data, and started handing out pieces of paper because, when paid, Al would do (something, in theory) due to Mann's faulty science.
Isn't Al Gore culpable for all kinds of liability? Hundreds-of-millions are involved.
How about getting this lie pushed into grade schools around the planet? Something must be done about that, too.
AND HOW ABOUT STOPPING CAP-AND-TRADE NOW THAT WE KNOW BETTER? Sheesh. Anything for power, these people.
I guess it was the 'shirts' that decided Palm's handwriting recognition was 'too valuable' to license...idiots. The time for using that had seemed passed, and nowdays with touch-screen oriented smartphones, it sounds like a good idea, again.
This sounds silly; but I STILL have a couple of Palm 5's around here. When I was a security guard, I could actually watch a line for activity, while writing on the Palm, without worrying about it being readable. I *SO* prefer it to the number-pad texting; it's so much faster and easy to learn.
Let's hope of all the treasures HP has found and lost, that the handwriting program is something they feel like licensing, cheaply, because it's darned useful, not hiding, because "they want to make all their money back". (This never happens, introducing scarcity: people work around it, instead).
I dunno; why didn't you ask the police officer that last pulled you over...the BMV when you upgraded your license, when you buy certain drugs or get on an airplane?
Sadly, few are asked for a photo ID when voting.:(
The law says NOTHING about picking people randomly out of a crowd. It says "reasonable suspicion", which is the same basis on which we're pulled over by the police. Read the law for yourself; it's quite simple and clear.
AND PLEASE DON'T USE THE WORD 'NAZI' FOR THIS: Nazi's threw bodies in furnaces; every nation on the planet will ask identification of suspicious people. Using the term waters-down one of the best known socialist horrors.
They took down that expensive Microsoft Flight Simulator!
(Nah, I'm just cranky about it; that's the ONE THING about Microsoft that always worked for me, the way it needed to, and I missed after switching to Linux in 1999.)
You probably bought into the propaganda for this guy...sorry! You probably thought this government was to be, as his campaign touted "Open and Honest", but clearly neither is true. I can't find a single promise kept.
What he/they WANT is to have the tiniest hint of legitimacy in dealing with the net, so they can tax and censor it. Scaling up on IP means being on the net to show a "Demon" to fight, just like AIG, just like Goldman, so they can do whatever it takes to control that part of our lives, too.
You guys 'bomb' me all the time for being a troll...this is a very liberal enclave. But this man and his comrades in the congress are taking it all away from us. I've known the nature of this 'new America' for almost two years.
Don't be fooled...again...that this government is doing anything for openness nor fairness. It's all about control.
Not opinion: just look at the news stories. Look at the 150 banks put out of business, the health insurance companies about to fold, and the nationalization of industries.
It just might be that we're not permitted on the net, come November. He'll need every vote he can beg, borrow, steal, or fraud to stay in power.
Yeah, I'm with you: if there's any place that needs help, it's Africa.
But there are barriers to the help.
Remember Idi Amin? When THAT asshole left, the country was in ruin. THEN they got a new, bigger, meaner asshole to make lives miserable. Not opinion: he set up parties to attack towns, binding women's hands behind their back, instructing the parties to rape them, and throw them from the bell towers of churches. I guess it was some sign of brutality; as if they were any unaware.
One family escaped a group like this, trying to get home, when 'mom' fell and was beaten with shock absorbers (of all things). The rest of the family made it, but the 'dad' still has to walk past her body every day to go to town/work because the raiding party took 'mom's' head. And the local custom/religion says she can't be buried until she's complete.
These kinds of problems make sharing and cooperation difficult to say the least.
Outside forces have other devious plans. Take the mosquito-net thing. France is the world's largest (if not only) mosquito net maker. So they fear-monger the continent into believing that America's DDT is death incarnate. Somehow they are to believe that DDT has made zombies of the largest superpower.
So instead of using DDT and getting past the 300,000 deaths each year, they buy French mosquito nets, and wonder how the US survives. DDT stopped being deadly about 50 years ago. The deaths were minimal. But these days almost no one has malaria in America.
So here it is: how do you do business with neighbors that use brutality as their government and healthcare system? How do you bring in power lines when neighboring rebels will just cut them down? How can *ANYONE* theorize about the coolness of an iPod when the family is dying of diseases?
It's not about money or food; it's about FREEDOM.
Those starving people you see on TV don't have the freedom, or in many cases the knowledge that selling a good or service could make their lives better. TONS of food are brought in weekly to be wasted on warlords. They lack the freedom to find a better life.
If there ever was a place on Earth of which mankind should be ashamed, it's Africa. I wish them well; it's all I can do.
1. What's a negro? 2. THAT's a negro, and we're walking the other way.
The first type is normal; for example, I've yet to meet an albino or Turk.
The second comes from one of two sources in my experience:
1. A negro killed my family. (Extremely understandable!)
2. Todd and the Arian guys hate'em, I will, too.
This infuriates me. People HAVE anger; they HAVE frustration. One of the oldest tricks in the book is to find someone to take these frustrations out on, for "legitimate" reasons. "Reasons" like race.
Darwinism was a great example- big nose, ear-lobes not separated? Inferior being: we can kill that one. (Seriously: this is the way those chose people for some jobs, in WW2 Germany!)
But I think black/white racism in America has gone so far one way, it needs to snap back. Giving men money to do nothing isn't good for them. We must expect the same from them as everyone else. Someone needs to cut down this vote-plantation the democrats made. Blacks deserve to be bankers, lawyers, CEOs and everything else! Democrats sold their souls long, long ago.
Work with me, will ya? Let's permit the at-risk, inner-city kids a better choice than jail and death: school vouchers. Teach'em how GOOD life can be on the outside. No one, regardless of race, deserves hopelessness.
Do this NOT by electing republicans, blindly- instead Conservatives. Guys who want smaller government, less taxes and less laws. You've not seen anyone like that as president since Regan, but they DO exist. You'll never see another Conservative in the democrats- they've just quit offering that.
Yeah, part of the equation of passwords is something that will make people USE them, but not write them down.
I remember a Slashdot story about the ICBMs were all protected with a mega-strong, super-secure password....that was written next to the keyboard. :
Keep'em easy; make'em memorable. From the strangest of sources comes a good system: AOL's passwords. Two short words, separated by a punctuation. "hold/garden" or "greg/shorts" that kinda thing.
It doesn't work for a 10,000 workstation shop, but then that's what managers are made to do.
I mean, where'd he find malware code for *BSD or Linux? I mean, who'd be dumb enough to use a highly-targeted, personal computer OS for such an important, high-rel application?
OH! It *was* on Windows.
Serve's them right!
Are those school kids still making ATMs play Beethoven anymore?
Not to throw dirt in the direction of the GNOME developers- they've done great things. It's the only environment I use. (Other than the classic, "fork-spoon-knife" paradigm of biological input.:)
The Gnome world would grow and expand greatly if ham-handed office workers could shape high-level code into things useful to the office. Think VisualBasic and all that embedding stuff on the other leading brand.
Being able to ask for a (sheet,row,colum) address of a sheet to print a separate document without reading a manual. Or construct a basic database for simple stuff in the office, again without reading a manual and/or immersing oneself in a whole new environment.
Anyone ever use Informix 4-GL's environment, for example?
Allowing the typical office worker to do things that *can't* be easily done on Windows is key to adding desktops. The more ad-hoc stuff an office worker can do without going to a seminar or conference, the better!
I'll bet ALL THESE THINGS CAN ALREADY BE DONE...but it's still not quite 'easy'.
Trust me: you want the government OUT of your internet.
Let's look at the SSN; we were told it'd never be needed outside of that program. That changed.
Let's consider seat belts. Thanks to 'Unsafe at any Speed' the government had a toe-hold on the auto industry and regulated it nearly to death.
Let's think about the military; while they risk their lives, pencil-necked geeks go to the UN and write RIDICULOUS LAWS like the one that snipers must be fought from the ground, they can't climb up the tower and shoot them in the back.
Everything the government touches turns to crap.
No? Amtrack. Social Security, Welfare, Medicare, everything's bankrupt and we're borrowing more. SHOW ME ONE SUCESSFUL GOVERNMENT PROGRAM.
If the FCC gets control over the ISPs it won't stop there. Soon it'll be government control over content. "Not enough FTP is being used; you must now buy BigCo-brand FTP software to do your web browsing" and other brain-dead, not-even-veiled attempts to corner the market to make a political friend a billionaire. Again.
If you don't like Comcast's network trickery, you can cut off the account! When enough people do this, they'll be out of business.
PLEASE DON'T LET THE BLIND, STUPID STORMTROOPER IN.
Mark my words: this is one disaster that can wait.
Java was always a bloated, misconfigured mess from the start. The idea to unify on a single machine language is old and proven: you do this kinda think in _hardware_ not software. Don't think so? Take a Linux box with Sun's own Java on a stroll of Bongo, Facebook, and other all-game sites and see what kind of "compatability" you have.
Oh, sure, when people like COMPAQ think they're gonna revitalize their market holdings by merely putting TORX heads on the exact same case screws, it's hard to debate with them. Often times CEOs are dorks; people relent because they have money, and things stop from getting done. But if we want computers that interface, we NEED THIS AT THE CHIP LEVEL.
There seem to be several camps creating several environments in which Java(TM) code can be run. But which version? Can we manage to keep the RAM bill under 1G this time? NO? Ok.
I've been arguing the usefulness of a 'common language' of microprocessors since about 1978. For a while they DID manage a completely solid translation of CP/M (8080/8085/Z-80) on early 8088's. Completely different architecture, worked perfectly. No multiple versions, no need to 'convince people' that it was still relevant. No apologies: that's the way it is when you emulate a given processor in hardware.
If anyone *ever* wants this to work in a rational, grow-old-with-it technology that doesn't fail, there needs to be a small number of CPU instructions which are agreed-upon by chip makers. In a worlds of perhaps hundreds-of-thousands of instructions, what's a couple hundred more if it means complete software freedom?
Yeah, I know- I'm old; I used to be a sysadmin prodigy, but I got sidetracked with caregiving. But I'm tellin' ya: this is the way to unify, if only someone has the balls to ACTUALLY MAKE IT HAPPEN.
We've done hundreds of things harder- why can't we just agree on something?
There's plenty of room making these instructions faster than the other guy. There's plenty of room making multiple co-processors for this work. Why can't we just get it done already?
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Hi; Christian, Conservative guy, here. You know, the one you mark as 'troll' all the time because you have such "open" minds?
I didn't realize he was treated so badly; it's no way for one of the most competent thinkers in mankind's history to be treated.
Ya see, when science and religion don't agree, we have bad science, or bad theology. In this case, it was bad theology. Nothing in the Bible suggests nor infers the movement of all bodies around this one.
Nothing.
There *is* however a line in Genesis that declares that "Earth is suspended from nothign" and it talks about a once-for-mankind event where "two are in a field [daytime], one will be taken, one will be left" and curiously "two are in their beds asleep,[night time] one will be taken, one will be left". This despite the certainty lacked at the time of it's writing, suggests the Earth is round.
The problem you guys have with Christianity is the PEOPLE who practice it. People are people, and they have their weaknesses. In this case, the Pope was trying to assert Earth's locational center, as well as it's importance-center.
But let's remember this (or similarly-timed) pope decided from thin air that Mary Magelene, a woman he'd never met, and had no reason to believe so, was a prostitute.
Other popes declared the "Prophecy of Malochi" to have named EVERY POPE THAT WILL BE! (But notice nowdays how every pope gives up his old name, and uses the one in the "prophesy" under which to work.
Just because a fraction of the people in Christendom are wonky, don't suggest they all are. Have you never met a wonky person elsewhere?
I was saved in August a few years back. I know the purpose of this place and the reason I get bonked on this system. I know why ghosts do what they do, and back up as much as possible with the fossil record. The explosion of phyla in the Cambrian Era? This reality starting as a burst of light? The Bible got those right, already.
Now tell me how, and we'll have a great conversation!
Perhaps the same people that convinced us that "there must be human life everywhere, like on Star Trek" on "millions and millions" of worlds was the same guy who told us there'd be flying cars.
I know what the movies have said for so long...isn't it *possible* we're alone?
Our existence looks like quite a long-shot; 90% of the stars out there don't have so much as terra firma, much less ATM machines.
Every time NASA foists a planet "Just like Earth" it comes with a 15G gravity or really, really, really bad hotel service. :)
But it's more than that. For man to evolve and even *know* other planets exist, for example, they have to be on planets far enough from black holes AND in places where the view is not obscured.
What will happen to science as we get better and better sensors and we can't find anyone/thing suggesting intelligence? Will it survive?
Well, is it?
I mean, the test to prove that a .45 fired at one's head causes death: that's a quick and sure test.
How many dozens of tests have there been done, and by both interested parties? 2? 3?
I submit that if a danger was truly there, two of the myriad tests would have made it clear.
Oh, wait: do we have to wait for a 'concensus' before we 'decide' what reality is? GlobalWarming left such a bad example...
There's one party constantly reminding us that sex is safe (it's not) that drugs are something everyone should try (they shouldn't) and some people are just 'inconvenient' like the unborn, the elderly that smell bad, and anyone who votes republican. And all decisions, including whether to allow you to be a doctor, or whether you get a loan for college depends on how you treat the politburo. And assuming you GET to buy a house, they'll be deciding whether you get a loan.
(This is today, not near-future: this is now law.)
Then we have the right. It knows sex is, and will always be dangerous. Ask the tsunami of STD victims. Ask the single mothers with multiple 'baby daddies' that now seem normal. Ask drug victims....no, wait: they're dead.
It doesn't want porn distributed freely like free samples at a public outing, it wants you to be happy, and to keep the government out of your life as much as possible. It DOES NOT want to convert you; that's both a promise of the founders AND the Christians you fear for some reason.
But there is a truth: mankind operates in an 'envelope'. Having his *every* whim destroys him. There are things he needs, things he should avoid, and some of what he needs is to make his own decisions and have a reason to wake every morning; a purpose- something to do. Not welfare.
6,000 years ago this 'envelope' was identified and given to mankind, and every time he's stepped outside it, there's crime in the streets, there's rampant flesh markets, disease, and most of all: suffering. How many times must we cycle through this to get it right?
If we HAVE a hard-right demographic among us, what does it look like? The TEA Parties are individuals following historic tradition of dissent and outrage, followed by a change in voting. No violence, not even trashing the place. Both suggestions come from the TV, not reality. Kinda like, Sarah Palin never saying the words "I can see Russia from my back porch" because Tina Fey did.
But no Nazi comparisons, please: you farts are too young to truly remember that horror. And this is nothing like it; it's an honest attempt to get freedom back, period. Going back to the government that doesn't butt in, the government that actually *protects* you during a war, not helping, and bowing to, the enemy. A place where work is the only thing between you and your dreams.
Our televisions are set on Left-Central. So where's this big right-wing storm-trooping going on?
No, you've already got the hat; the pointed one of the left that simultaneously tells us you're racially unbiased, then pushes for racial quotas for hiring, even at the Supreme Court where wisdom matters most.
Or at the union level, where union leaders take in BILLIONS of dollars that goes to the democrat party (the native, but not only home of progressivism) in the name of "keeping wages high for the dignity of the American worker".
Well, the democrats take that money and find any possible way to open the borders. Feel free to check. A handful of progressive republicans do this, like McCain and Graham, and they get the ire of the rest of us.
Tell me, with your pointed hat firmly affixed, how does funding the party trying to open the borders protect the jobs of the Americans?
I know it's tough; you have programming to defeat. But listen to Limbaugh anyway. There's no gotcha-moment, there's how things happen by "ducks and bunnies" on one side of the argument, and political realities, historical proof and proven theories on the other.
As I told the other guy: no one spends their way into prosperity. Ask the Japanese government, Greece, France, and all other losing people who have tried and failed. Spending money is not generating money (other than for political friends).
Six times now, supply-side economics have been used, and six times they have worked. If the president's intention was to improve things, why isn't he using the proven-good method?
Have you listened to the video clips of this guy?
Have you seen his now-cabinet members as they lionize savage communist leaders that killed millions of their own people, and whose countries lead the way in loss of personal freedom?
Have you heard of Cloward and Piven, two guys who got their PhD's by suggesting everyone on welfare would be a unique and wonderful world? They're now working in the adminstration.
Are you aware his friend, advisor and political helper bombed the Pentagon, and "didn't go far enough" in his efforts?
I'm sorry- where's the tin-hat come in? This stuff's on YouTube and all over the place. There's no hidden conspiracy: they tell us in their own words.
Well, he predicted everything we're seeing today, nearly two years ago. Perhaps your programming is just a little to overpowering?
Seriously; if you think Limbaugh is a bad source of information, you more unaware than you know.
Or...
Maybe you can explain how, spending so much money we have to borrow until we're about to collapse brings us into prosperity. Do you have an answer for that, oh, smarter-than-me?
Cause, see- I'm a nutcase. I know that lowering tax rates puts businesses back in action and gets people hired. I know this, because the last SIX TIMES it was tried, it worked just fine. This is the key problem with the progressives; they want full control, and to do that, they're taking down the economy.
Who's the nutcase?
[I know I'm a heretic to this liberal, big-government crowd, but while I'm still here, it's important you guys get some truth. I'll be modded down, but that only shows how "open minded" you guys are.]
Let's see:
Nationalization of the car companies, yanking people's life savings and giving it to the unions didn't tick you off? You, the taxpayer are now going to pay for those sky-high union pensions.
It ain't over: every time a union pension can't be paid (the worker invested $30,000 for a $3,000.000 payout!) from a city, state, or EU member nation, YOU'LL BE ASKED TO PAY FOR IT. It's already happening, now. It's a part of Greece's problems.
Just like Spain, the myth of "Green Jobs" being created by doing LESS will make sure jobs are hard to find for quite some time. "Green Jobs" are a lie.
He's taking over the internet the way he took over the healthcare industry, which was damaged in the FIRST PLACE by congressional meddling. You guys think it's a win against Comcast- it's a win against YOU. Mark my words; I'm nearly 50 and I've seen this before.
Bush was a progressive, like Obama, but at least he wanted to actually FIGHT the war we're in. With as much as he spent in 8 years, Obama has spent more IN JUST ONE YEAR. And, we're on the hook for about $3T/year for healthcare. It's a disaster.
He wants to institute Cap-and-Trade so that he can decide which companies get to live, and which ones will fail.
He's ending all the school loan programs, so if you're a friend to the big government, YOU can get a school loan. Congress made the guarantees, so colleges had no reason to lower costs...so you're suckered.
He's growing a housing monopoly, too. Only one place to go to get a home loan- the big government. Everyone else is getting shut down because of another congressional disaster, the Community ReInvestment Act that forces banks to lose $200,000 when a person of color goes into a bank and must be given a loan, EVEN IF HE HAS NO JOB.
Legalized bank robbery. 150 banks closed last year, it's ahead of schedule, this year.
He wants everyone on welfare, with a handful of multi-billionaires to be the only "private sector", just like every other socialist nation.
Notice I never mentioned skin color. I don't care. It's no concern that my president is black; my concern is that he's RED.
But because he wants to screw up NASA too, NOW you get angry?
Turn off the state-run media. MAKE YOURSELF listen to Limbaugh. You'll quickly learn he's color-blind, non-homophobic and has a lot of good, historically proven ideas. What you know of him are lies.
Most important you'll learn to stop voting for people causing the problem!
I'm sure we're gonna find some little nose-hair of some alien being that'll PROVE Christianity's just a farce. :)
(It won't, I promise you. You're in MORE danger of proving the Bible right in MORE ways than disproving it.)
Ya know, if it's all random, outta-nowhere conversion of light into matter, and this is just one of a billion Earths all class-M and full of apples and watermelons....
Why bother to study science at all? Randomness would have no 'secret' to decode, right? Pull out of science classes; drink more, don't you watch TV? Have random sex, hurt other people- nothing matters.
Unless it does.
There are dozens of proofs in the Bible; why not investigate for yourself? I used to be like any one of you guys; I used to CARE if a woolly-mammoth was found on another planted. Do you think I reached this conclusion by anything but the same logic you guys are using *right*now*?
Call me if you see a light-speed capable ship. I have a life to live.
I'm with ya bud; I was gonna ask the same thing. But see, there's not 2,000 or 3,000 viruses out there, waiting to get in...there are in excess of 2,000,000 the last I looked.
This is one VERY cool advancement. I'd just like to see Windows get the same kinda advancement for a change. Everyone I know's stuck in that circus...
The Big Bang is documented. It was the creation of this reality, see also: Einstein's theory of relativity. The Bible was the only ancient document that got this one right.
Evolution's a little weak; based mostly on a theory of a guy who couldn't see INTO a cell, and assumed the animals and man took the same track. His work doesn't even define important concepts such as "species".
But then we get to ManMadeGlobalWarming(TM) and we find a whole different idea: science for cash. Look around: how much of this is being funded, since Margret Thatcher used it for the first time in the late 70's?
And the things we've been told to BELIEVE!
- Cold winter AND hot winters both mean man is changing the climate.
- Mankind can exude so much CO2 that it actually matters.
- The hot-times before industry didn't really happen, no matter what the fossil record says.
These three items should be enough to spark a recursion of theories and check one another for accuracy, but no: WE'RE SELLING PIECES OF PAPER THAT SAYS WE'LL PLANT A TREE SO YOU CAN TAKE THAT CAR TRIP IN YOUR SUV.
Please, guys; just think for yourself a minute: when money dries up for almost *all* science, then opens up for climate science that says we're in danger, isn't that a clue?
You guys are foolish when it comes to religion, but you're all so SMART in details. When a washed-up congressman and has-been starts showing you charts and telling you "the debate is over, send me money" DOES THAT NOT STRIKE YOU AS EVANGELISM?
Have you guys NOT made fun of a number of evangelists for less?
When religion and science disagree, we have bad science or bad theology. It's why I believe firmly in an old (14B year) Earth, cavemen, all this stuff. But to believe Al Gore has a clue...I mean, THAT TAKES SOME FAITH!
(And let's not forget: the two charts he uses, rolling them around on wheels, asking "Is there anything these have in common?" are the evidence you need. CO2 is exuded 800 years AFTER the ocean gets "hot", and spews it to COOL the atmo. Read closer.)
He's such a tool!
An interesting take on the problem; it scored you 4 points, I'll be 'trolled' for mine.
Isn't Microsoft the most widely-run operating system in the world? Are they not supposed to be the most capable, therefore? How many times have we heard how we should use their software because they will control spam, make the internet safe and make computing more fun?
Each and ever time they make a release.
You'd think after 2 decades they'd get around to doing some of that. And what's the WORST PLACE to show you can't pull it off?
Oh, sure- they can do this, or don't; it's a business decision, but that's the easy first-glance.
The fact they can't keep problems at bay on their own website speaks VOLUMES. They are, running these systems on Windows machines, right?
LET THE TROLL MODERATION BEGIN!
These planes have been transonic for quite a long time. The sound barrier is around 640 mph at sea level.
Would those be _bungie_ straps, or large, flat _nylon_ straps?
(I'll bet it's just put in an unused access port for such things.) :>
This whacko published a lie; he propogated it like any other not-quite-reviewed aspect of science.
But see, Al Gore took this data, and started handing out pieces of paper because, when paid, Al would do (something, in theory) due to Mann's faulty science.
Isn't Al Gore culpable for all kinds of liability? Hundreds-of-millions are involved.
How about getting this lie pushed into grade schools around the planet? Something must be done about that, too.
AND HOW ABOUT STOPPING CAP-AND-TRADE NOW THAT WE KNOW BETTER? Sheesh. Anything for power, these people.
I guess it was the 'shirts' that decided Palm's handwriting recognition was 'too valuable' to license...idiots. The time for using that had seemed passed, and nowdays with touch-screen oriented smartphones, it sounds like a good idea, again.
This sounds silly; but I STILL have a couple of Palm 5's around here. When I was a security guard, I could actually watch a line for activity, while writing on the Palm, without worrying about it being readable. I *SO* prefer it to the number-pad texting; it's so much faster and easy to learn.
Let's hope of all the treasures HP has found and lost, that the handwriting program is something they feel like licensing, cheaply, because it's darned useful, not hiding, because "they want to make all their money back". (This never happens, introducing scarcity: people work around it, instead).
So....GO HP!
I dunno; why didn't you ask the police officer that last pulled you over...the BMV when you upgraded your license, when you buy certain drugs or get on an airplane?
Sadly, few are asked for a photo ID when voting. :(
The law says NOTHING about picking people randomly out of a crowd. It says "reasonable suspicion", which is the same basis on which we're pulled over by the police. Read the law for yourself; it's quite simple and clear.
AND PLEASE DON'T USE THE WORD 'NAZI' FOR THIS: Nazi's threw bodies in furnaces; every nation on the planet will ask identification of suspicious people. Using the term waters-down one of the best known socialist horrors.
They took down that expensive Microsoft Flight Simulator!
(Nah, I'm just cranky about it; that's the ONE THING about Microsoft that always worked for me, the way it needed to, and I missed after switching to Linux in 1999.)
You probably bought into the propaganda for this guy...sorry! You probably thought this government was to be, as his campaign touted "Open and Honest", but clearly neither is true. I can't find a single promise kept.
What he/they WANT is to have the tiniest hint of legitimacy in dealing with the net, so they can tax and censor it. Scaling up on IP means being on the net to show a "Demon" to fight, just like AIG, just like Goldman, so they can do whatever it takes to control that part of our lives, too.
You guys 'bomb' me all the time for being a troll...this is a very liberal enclave. But this man and his comrades in the congress are taking it all away from us. I've known the nature of this 'new America' for almost two years.
Don't be fooled...again...that this government is doing anything for openness nor fairness. It's all about control.
Not opinion: just look at the news stories. Look at the 150 banks put out of business, the health insurance companies about to fold, and the nationalization of industries.
It just might be that we're not permitted on the net, come November. He'll need every vote he can beg, borrow, steal, or fraud to stay in power.
Now: MARK ME AS A TROLL FOR WARNING YOU.
Yeah, I'm with you: if there's any place that needs help, it's Africa.
But there are barriers to the help.
Remember Idi Amin? When THAT asshole left, the country was in ruin. THEN they got a new, bigger, meaner asshole to make lives miserable. Not opinion: he set up parties to attack towns, binding women's hands behind their back, instructing the parties to rape them, and throw them from the bell towers of churches. I guess it was some sign of brutality; as if they were any unaware.
One family escaped a group like this, trying to get home, when 'mom' fell and was beaten with shock absorbers (of all things). The rest of the family made it, but the 'dad' still has to walk past her body every day to go to town/work because the raiding party took 'mom's' head. And the local custom/religion says she can't be buried until she's complete.
These kinds of problems make sharing and cooperation difficult to say the least.
Outside forces have other devious plans. Take the mosquito-net thing. France is the world's largest (if not only) mosquito net maker. So they fear-monger the continent into believing that America's DDT is death incarnate. Somehow they are to believe that DDT has made zombies of the largest superpower.
So instead of using DDT and getting past the 300,000 deaths each year, they buy French mosquito nets, and wonder how the US survives. DDT stopped being deadly about 50 years ago. The deaths were minimal. But these days almost no one has malaria in America.
So here it is: how do you do business with neighbors that use brutality as their government and healthcare system? How do you bring in power lines when neighboring rebels will just cut them down? How can *ANYONE* theorize about the coolness of an iPod when the family is dying of diseases?
It's not about money or food; it's about FREEDOM.
Those starving people you see on TV don't have the freedom, or in many cases the knowledge that selling a good or service could make their lives better. TONS of food are brought in weekly to be wasted on warlords. They lack the freedom to find a better life.
If there ever was a place on Earth of which mankind should be ashamed, it's Africa. I wish them well; it's all I can do.
I find two kinds of racism:
1. What's a negro?
2. THAT's a negro, and we're walking the other way.
The first type is normal; for example, I've yet to meet an albino or Turk.
The second comes from one of two sources in my experience:
1. A negro killed my family. (Extremely understandable!)
2. Todd and the Arian guys hate'em, I will, too.
This infuriates me. People HAVE anger; they HAVE frustration. One of the oldest tricks in the book is to find someone to take these frustrations out on, for "legitimate" reasons. "Reasons" like race.
Darwinism was a great example- big nose, ear-lobes not separated? Inferior being: we can kill that one. (Seriously: this is the way those chose people for some jobs, in WW2 Germany!)
But I think black/white racism in America has gone so far one way, it needs to snap back. Giving men money to do nothing isn't good for them. We must expect the same from them as everyone else. Someone needs to cut down this vote-plantation the democrats made. Blacks deserve to be bankers, lawyers, CEOs and everything else! Democrats sold their souls long, long ago.
Work with me, will ya? Let's permit the at-risk, inner-city kids a better choice than jail and death: school vouchers. Teach'em how GOOD life can be on the outside. No one, regardless of race, deserves hopelessness.
Do this NOT by electing republicans, blindly- instead Conservatives. Guys who want smaller government, less taxes and less laws. You've not seen anyone like that as president since Regan, but they DO exist. You'll never see another Conservative in the democrats- they've just quit offering that.
Speak up: it's time to end this!
Yeah, part of the equation of passwords is something that will make people USE them, but not write them down.
I remember a Slashdot story about the ICBMs were all protected with a mega-strong, super-secure password....that was written next to the keyboard. :
Keep'em easy; make'em memorable. From the strangest of sources comes a good system: AOL's passwords. Two short words, separated by a punctuation. "hold/garden" or "greg/shorts" that kinda thing.
It doesn't work for a 10,000 workstation shop, but then that's what managers are made to do.
I mean, where'd he find malware code for *BSD or Linux? I mean, who'd be dumb enough to use a highly-targeted, personal computer OS for such an important, high-rel application?
OH! It *was* on Windows.
Serve's them right!
Are those school kids still making ATMs play Beethoven anymore?
Not to throw dirt in the direction of the GNOME developers- they've done great things. It's the only environment I use. (Other than the classic, "fork-spoon-knife" paradigm of biological input. :)
The Gnome world would grow and expand greatly if ham-handed office workers could shape high-level code into things useful to the office. Think VisualBasic and all that embedding stuff on the other leading brand.
Being able to ask for a (sheet,row,colum) address of a sheet to print a separate document without reading a manual. Or construct a basic database for simple stuff in the office, again without reading a manual and/or immersing oneself in a whole new environment.
Anyone ever use Informix 4-GL's environment, for example?
Allowing the typical office worker to do things that *can't* be easily done on Windows is key to adding desktops. The more ad-hoc stuff an office worker can do without going to a seminar or conference, the better!
I'll bet ALL THESE THINGS CAN ALREADY BE DONE...but it's still not quite 'easy'.
Trust me: you want the government OUT of your internet.
Let's look at the SSN; we were told it'd never be needed outside of that program. That changed.
Let's consider seat belts. Thanks to 'Unsafe at any Speed' the government had a toe-hold on the auto industry and regulated it nearly to death.
Let's think about the military; while they risk their lives, pencil-necked geeks go to the UN and write RIDICULOUS LAWS like the one that snipers must be fought from the ground, they can't climb up the tower and shoot them in the back.
Everything the government touches turns to crap.
No? Amtrack. Social Security, Welfare, Medicare, everything's bankrupt and we're borrowing more. SHOW ME ONE SUCESSFUL GOVERNMENT PROGRAM.
If the FCC gets control over the ISPs it won't stop there. Soon it'll be government control over content. "Not enough FTP is being used; you must now buy BigCo-brand FTP software to do your web browsing" and other brain-dead, not-even-veiled attempts to corner the market to make a political friend a billionaire. Again.
If you don't like Comcast's network trickery, you can cut off the account! When enough people do this, they'll be out of business.
PLEASE DON'T LET THE BLIND, STUPID STORMTROOPER IN.
Mark my words: this is one disaster that can wait.
Now we can start wasting money on players, start arguing over media types that are essentially the same, but won't play.
It'll be utopia again, sort like VHS/Beta!
[Really, guys. Making things incompatible is *always* a loser, no matter what your business school profs might have mentioned.]
Java was always a bloated, misconfigured mess from the start. The idea to unify on a single machine language is old and proven: you do this kinda think in _hardware_ not software. Don't think so? Take a Linux box with Sun's own Java on a stroll of Bongo, Facebook, and other all-game sites and see what kind of "compatability" you have.
Oh, sure, when people like COMPAQ think they're gonna revitalize their market holdings by merely putting TORX heads on the exact same case screws, it's hard to debate with them. Often times CEOs are dorks; people relent because they have money, and things stop from getting done. But if we want computers that interface, we NEED THIS AT THE CHIP LEVEL.
There seem to be several camps creating several environments in which Java(TM) code can be run. But which version? Can we manage to keep the RAM bill under 1G this time? NO? Ok.
I've been arguing the usefulness of a 'common language' of microprocessors since about 1978. For a while they DID manage a completely solid translation of CP/M (8080/8085/Z-80) on early 8088's. Completely different architecture, worked perfectly. No multiple versions, no need to 'convince people' that it was still relevant. No apologies: that's the way it is when you emulate a given processor in hardware.
If anyone *ever* wants this to work in a rational, grow-old-with-it technology that doesn't fail, there needs to be a small number of CPU instructions which are agreed-upon by chip makers. In a worlds of perhaps hundreds-of-thousands of instructions, what's a couple hundred more if it means complete software freedom?
Yeah, I know- I'm old; I used to be a sysadmin prodigy, but I got sidetracked with caregiving. But I'm tellin' ya: this is the way to unify, if only someone has the balls to ACTUALLY MAKE IT HAPPEN.
We've done hundreds of things harder- why can't we just agree on something?
There's plenty of room making these instructions faster than the other guy. There's plenty of room making multiple co-processors for this work. Why can't we just get it done already?