Nobody bought it anyway, but that's another issue.
No, I don't think that's another issue. I think that's THE issue. Many people look upon Sun's implosion as a reckoning that a mainstream tech company can't put all of its software eggs into the FOSS basket. If Oracle agrees, one can expect more hard-to-monetize ideas and projects bite the dust.
I'm going to go with a third option: ignoring Internet sensationalism. I recall a recent incident where it appeared AT&T was "censoring" 4chan. Turns out AT&T was just trying to stem a massive DDOS attack originating from that and other domains.
In my experience, bullying and rejection was very rarely physical harassment. Just psychological and social. It's much harder to enforce, and to some extent the GP is right. It shouldn't be our prerogative to make sure no harm comes to anybody ever. Kids are dicks to others, and we're not going to change that. However, some kids are fucking animals to others, and we CAN do something about that.
4 years here, same experience. Works perfectly for my own needs, and if really wanted the pay service, I'd definitely drop the cash for it. I've been that satisfied with their service. I'm not sure what the GP is talking about.
This would be a more meaningful point if the EC's objections were founded in preventing a majority market share. But that isn't the case.
The EC thinks that Oracle will acquire MySQL and use its position to force users onto its own proprietary databases, thus acting in an anticompetitive manner (the assumption being that MySQL and Oracle DB are competing products). Check out Groklaw's take on the issue for a breakdown as to why this is pure FUD.
This merger wouldn't be an issue if MS didn't covet MySQL and SAP wasn't a European company.
It's Windows-only and still closed-source, so that's enough of a catch, really. This is a free dev kit, not an id-style open source release of the engine (title was kind of misleading).
Well, in all seriousness, it is worth noting that Pat Roberts is a Republican pushing for government intervention in an environmental problem. It's not so controversial when it's something an tangible as lead-poisoned children.
I knew SMI still sold SPARC-based servers and systems, and I'd like to know more about what role Sparc International plays, but Google won't let me into www.sparc.org for fear of malware. Yikes.
But as far as I can tell, this is a bitch to set up, and I'm really not inclined to go clicking around some unintuitive menu system to set my sound up right every time I leave home or go back.
Actually I just set this up yesterday with padevchooser. It was remarkably intuitive once I had PA set up correctly. The problem, of course, is that setting up PA in general is an awful experience that creates a boatload of issues with many apps. Once it's up and stable, however, using it to pipe sound over the network seems to work like a charm.
I'm pro-Linux as well, don't get me wrong. But I still think that if Windows had something as fundamentally broken as sound is in Linux, they'd crack down. A good example is the (much-derided) UAC in Vista: the overwhelming majority of Windows applications attempted to use an inordinately high level of access privilege, so MS added a nag. Not the most graceful method, but it set a fire under community's collective feet to convince them to make smarter use of the API.
Pretty much every distribution has standardized on Pulseaudio
This really doesn't matter until application developers do the same thing. If devs continue to not use higher-level APIs like SDL, every program is still going to vie for different resources in different positions on the stack. At some point, the Linux community has to lay down the law and break backwards compatibility for the sake of enforcing real standards.
You seem to be living in some interesting fantasy world where individual actions have no repercussions on a community.
Every time you drive your car, you are polluting the air. Every Watt of energy you use to heat your home can be traced to a portion of greenhouse gas emissions. It's not that you're doing anything morally wrong or actively malicious, and nobody can sue you for it. But energy consumption is tied to energy production, and there are no market incentives in place to keep that energy production clean.
If you want to look at this in terms of property rights, then what right do each of us have to take away each others' clean air, land, and water by going about business as usual?
Only if the article actually is a sensationalist piece of trolling. Sun is releasing an experimental feature to a subset of customers rather than the entire world. And Oracle does not own Sun yet, since the deal has not even been finalized, and therefore is not making decisions about Java.
Why would IBM have been a much better buyer? For reasons we've discussed all over the net, IBM and Sun had too many directly conflicting products and businesses, and that would have just seen a lot of Sun products dissolved and a lot of Sun employees laid off. Oracle actually needs Sun to break into the server business, as they openly stated they want to.
I'm surprised the summary doesn't mention it, but the shipping container is a Sun "Project Blackbox", or rather "Modular Data Center" as it's officially called.
This logic doesn't jive with fundamentalism. If you believe that the Bible, as translated, word for word, is an exact account of the creation of the Earth and cosmos, there's no room for evolution. Or the Big Bang. Or any other analytical interpretation. It's "The Word" or nothing.
Evolution never states God doesn't exist. Because it has nothing to do with God. Evolution does state that man could not have come from clay and woman could not have come from man's rib. It doesn't disprove God, but it disagrees with the exact wording of the scripture. Otherwise, yes, science and religion really wouldn't be at such odds.
You raise valid points regarding the problems of giving the insurance industry too much data to play with. However, I'm reluctant to start restricting our ability to share possibly life-saving data, in an efficient fashion, out of fear of our broken health insurance system.
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Nobody bought it anyway, but that's another issue.
No, I don't think that's another issue. I think that's THE issue. Many people look upon Sun's implosion as a reckoning that a mainstream tech company can't put all of its software eggs into the FOSS basket. If Oracle agrees, one can expect more hard-to-monetize ideas and projects bite the dust.
I'm going to go with a third option: ignoring Internet sensationalism. I recall a recent incident where it appeared AT&T was "censoring" 4chan. Turns out AT&T was just trying to stem a massive DDOS attack originating from that and other domains.
I expect a statement from Verizon shortly.
In my experience, bullying and rejection was very rarely physical harassment. Just psychological and social. It's much harder to enforce, and to some extent the GP is right. It shouldn't be our prerogative to make sure no harm comes to anybody ever. Kids are dicks to others, and we're not going to change that. However, some kids are fucking animals to others, and we CAN do something about that.
Middle ground, people. Middle ground.
That would be fairly stupid of them. You don't survive as a company for so long as Oracle has by making those kind of decisions.
4 years here, same experience. Works perfectly for my own needs, and if really wanted the pay service, I'd definitely drop the cash for it. I've been that satisfied with their service. I'm not sure what the GP is talking about.
This would be a more meaningful point if the EC's objections were founded in preventing a majority market share. But that isn't the case.
The EC thinks that Oracle will acquire MySQL and use its position to force users onto its own proprietary databases, thus acting in an anticompetitive manner (the assumption being that MySQL and Oracle DB are competing products). Check out Groklaw's take on the issue for a breakdown as to why this is pure FUD.
This merger wouldn't be an issue if MS didn't covet MySQL and SAP wasn't a European company.
It's Windows-only and still closed-source, so that's enough of a catch, really. This is a free dev kit, not an id-style open source release of the engine (title was kind of misleading).
Sarcasm doesn't carry well over the intertubes, I'm afraid.
Well, in all seriousness, it is worth noting that Pat Roberts is a Republican pushing for government intervention in an environmental problem. It's not so controversial when it's something an tangible as lead-poisoned children.
I knew SMI still sold SPARC-based servers and systems, and I'd like to know more about what role Sparc International plays, but Google won't let me into www.sparc.org for fear of malware. Yikes.
But as far as I can tell, this is a bitch to set up, and I'm really not inclined to go clicking around some unintuitive menu system to set my sound up right every time I leave home or go back.
Actually I just set this up yesterday with padevchooser. It was remarkably intuitive once I had PA set up correctly. The problem, of course, is that setting up PA in general is an awful experience that creates a boatload of issues with many apps. Once it's up and stable, however, using it to pipe sound over the network seems to work like a charm.
I'm pro-Linux as well, don't get me wrong. But I still think that if Windows had something as fundamentally broken as sound is in Linux, they'd crack down. A good example is the (much-derided) UAC in Vista: the overwhelming majority of Windows applications attempted to use an inordinately high level of access privilege, so MS added a nag. Not the most graceful method, but it set a fire under community's collective feet to convince them to make smarter use of the API.
This really doesn't matter until application developers do the same thing. If devs continue to not use higher-level APIs like SDL, every program is still going to vie for different resources in different positions on the stack. At some point, the Linux community has to lay down the law and break backwards compatibility for the sake of enforcing real standards.
Seems like the only phone you'd be able to buy with this requirement would be an OpenMoko device. Maybe an Android phone if it's mostly open source.
Closed source and closed hardware devices mean these little surprises will continue to happen.
You seem to be living in some interesting fantasy world where individual actions have no repercussions on a community.
Every time you drive your car, you are polluting the air. Every Watt of energy you use to heat your home can be traced to a portion of greenhouse gas emissions. It's not that you're doing anything morally wrong or actively malicious, and nobody can sue you for it. But energy consumption is tied to energy production, and there are no market incentives in place to keep that energy production clean.
If you want to look at this in terms of property rights, then what right do each of us have to take away each others' clean air, land, and water by going about business as usual?
Only if the article actually is a sensationalist piece of trolling. Sun is releasing an experimental feature to a subset of customers rather than the entire world. And Oracle does not own Sun yet, since the deal has not even been finalized, and therefore is not making decisions about Java.
Slashdot, you disappoint me. Again.
That is kind of the point. Abusing their monopoly gave them an artificially low cost since they didn't really have to compete.
I always thought of it as Love Boat with aliens.
EA just posted a $1 Billion loss. Treating your employees like shit may guarantee you make deadlines, but it won't guarantee a good product.
Why would IBM have been a much better buyer? For reasons we've discussed all over the net, IBM and Sun had too many directly conflicting products and businesses, and that would have just seen a lot of Sun products dissolved and a lot of Sun employees laid off. Oracle actually needs Sun to break into the server business, as they openly stated they want to.
I'm surprised the summary doesn't mention it, but the shipping container is a Sun "Project Blackbox", or rather "Modular Data Center" as it's officially called.
This logic doesn't jive with fundamentalism. If you believe that the Bible, as translated, word for word, is an exact account of the creation of the Earth and cosmos, there's no room for evolution. Or the Big Bang. Or any other analytical interpretation. It's "The Word" or nothing.
Evolution never states God doesn't exist. Because it has nothing to do with God. Evolution does state that man could not have come from clay and woman could not have come from man's rib. It doesn't disprove God, but it disagrees with the exact wording of the scripture. Otherwise, yes, science and religion really wouldn't be at such odds.
You raise valid points regarding the problems of giving the insurance industry too much data to play with. However, I'm reluctant to start restricting our ability to share possibly life-saving data, in an efficient fashion, out of fear of our broken health insurance system.
You have no idea. My RSS reader cut off the title at "Wife of Harried Pirate Bay Witness Gets Buried..." 0_0
Umm, pretty much every President and Vice President has been a lawyer by trade before entering politics.