I Guess the solution... Encrypt your Data regardless your situation?
At least not letting everybody use the same account would help a lot in such cases. Assuming Windows by default doesn't let a user read another user's files (I suppose it doesn't, but its defaults are sometimes weird).
But of course I don't think I've ever seen this setup in use in any of the families I know.
But geeks will want the computing power local and as users become more savvy they're not likely to be as turned on by the Net as the OS.
This "users becoming savvy" thing has been mentioned for decades now and I see no sign of it ever happening. I'll believe in it when those savvy users play Duke Nukem Forever on their Desktop Linux.
The problem with Krugman is that he is relentlessly political and that is a bad trait for an economist.
Isn't that the purpose of an economist ? To spatter some figures and graphs and theories over whatever politics ? It doesn't come out of the blue, there's always an ideology behind it. There's no such thing as a "true" economy.
The Basque certainly should have their independence, too. Why not, after all? If a people decides it wants to not be ruled by another people, who are you to say "no"?
In that case, as in most others, 98% of the Basque (or Corsicans, or pretty much any other such annoying vocal minority) have no wish to be independent as it would be utterly economically stupid.
That's why they don't have their independence. Because the local governments actually listen to the people who live there, not to a handful of exalted lunatics.
And regarding the frequent justifications made in this thread that "this or that territory wasn't part of that other bit until recently", well go back a bit further and you'll likely find the exact opposite argument. It's utterly meaningless.
walk/run modifier is great imho it provides a much better way to seperate walk/run (which in most FPSes are two pretty different actions), would would be nice is variable speed for the walking
Indeed, I too have always so much wanted to have walk, stroll, trot, run, sprint in my FPS games. This has bothered me quite a bit. I'm glad MS is finally working on this
Sorry but calling Linux arcane next to Windows is just too bizarre. I quit using Windows in 3.11 because that's pretty much when it stopped working and used something that actually was logical and made sense instead. Even back then Linux worked way better. Besides Linux actually comes with documentation, Windows doesn't.
MS user help forums are full of command lines (even though it takes twice as much work to copy and paste). Maybe home users don't like using a shell but they still when directed to do so despite your small sample. And professionals, whatever the system they run use it regularly.
I'm afraid I don't understand your strange arguments.
With Linux the users say "this sucks!" and what do the Linux developers and zealots say? "Well tough! GUI is teh suxorz! CLI is leet and roxorz! Sux it up or go back to Windblowz,LOL!" and you wonder why folks can't even give away your OS for free. if the "well tough" truly is your attitude, then you should join me. Join me in spreading the word far and wide that Linux is NOT for home users, but ONLY for those that are hackers or have IT experience.
But why should people be forced to use a shell in Linux ? Who is there to force them to do it ? I've been running Unix/Linux as my desktop for 15 years and those last 5 years I just never open a shell in day to day use. I install Linux desktops in offices and the people there certainly never use shells. They don't use any in Windows, why would they use one in Linux ? I'm certainly not forcing them to. They run OOo, a web client and a few graphical apps, just like pretty much any random user does. Nobody ever told them that a GUI was bad. What kind of fantasy world did you get that from ?
Because if CLI doesn't die that is EXACTLY what you are saying, because when you say "well tough" to the customer they say "How much is that copy of Home Premium again?". If you want to be like RMS and only care about whether something is "hackable" or not, wonderful. I am truly happy for you. But spreading lies like "Linux is ready for the desktop!" only makes Linux look like shit when the users see what a CLI ridden mess of arcane commands it truly is. If you want to get someone off of Windows, or advocate a non MSFT OS? Then Apple should be what you are evangelizing.
It won't die because a whole class of users depends on it, it's fast, convenient, easy and low bandwidth. The same way Perl-like languages won't die because a lot of people find them useful. Whether random users actually are or aren't afraid of them is irrelevant. Nobody forces them to use them. Linux distributions that are meant for the desktop currently boot to a graphical desktop that is every bit as usable as any other platform. There's no "CLI mess whatsoever". Just a handful of scripts that are run at boot time. It's all very plain and the user doesn't get to ever see it unless he wants to.
*All* current platforms have a shell and the only one that had a completely broken one (Windows) is finally getting its act together. For some reason most users don't seem to care much and aren't leaving in droves (oh no, there's a terminal, run for your lives). On the other hand, the few who have a *need* for that tool *do* care very much and are probably very happy that MS finally fixed this glaring omission.
That doesn't change the fact that the users have spoken and they do NOT want CLI. So either CLI dies in a fire or Linux stays a niche.[... ] And THIS is why Linux will fail.
Nonsense. The CLI will *always* be there simply because you can do a lot more with it than with a GUI. Even Mac OS finally acnowledged it. If you don't want to use it, then don't. Nobody forces you to.
The users are indeed frightened of the CLI for some reason, even though as it has been pointed out elsewhere here, in many cases it is much simpler than the GUI (easy to cut and paste a fix for example). Well, tough. All they have to do is not to click on that icon. Just like they won't ever click on the "Administrative Tools" in Windows, even though it has a GUI (that's still incomprehensible if you don't RTFM, figure that).
Sorry but Linux has has already succedeed. Granted it hasn't displaced Windows (but then I don't think it was ever meant to), the only think it was ever *meant* to be, was an affordable (free, really), decent, hackable system. Which it has been for ages. And the GUI and the CLI already work hand in hand everywhere.
By your own bizarre logic, since Windows has a terminal, and since Microsoft puts quite a bit of work in their CLI, then Linux must have won big time indeed.
According to the article, boot time is a little longer than XP and Vista (41.25 seconds vs XP's 40.03 and Vista's 40.16), but it's better than the previous build's boot time of 44.81 seconds.
This has to be the weirdest benchmarks ever. I'm really disappointed that the Top500 supercomputer list doesn't even list their boot up and shut down times. What kind of list is that ?
"Our system boots up really fast ! And shuts down too ! Yay ! Oh and it runs some stuff too."
(disclaimer : I only run games in Windows, and even when rebooting to play something I don't give a damn about boot up time... although I actually run Win 7, out of curiosity mostly)
I have NEVER had a problem setting up a resolution or refresh rate on a Windows machine. If the option was available in the Display Settings GUI and the graphics adapter and monitor both supported it, the switch was always perfectly fine.
Oh yes, that works. But regularly, resolutions *should* be there (like the native resolution of the display) and aren't. And that's where the pain starts.
Can anyone figure out the Vista/7 control panel without anyone holding their hand?
I really wish (in "complete" mode, or whatever it's called) they'd sort along the columns, starting down, instead of across them. It always makes me feel like each item is placed at random until I remember their weird way of displaying stuff.
That little change would make the whole thing much more usable for me.
Bullshit. Even setting up display resolutions and refresh rates (don't get me started on xorg and nVidia's proprietary driver) or sound on my setup required CLI in 7.10 and 8.04...
Sure, it's great when everything works out of the box for some people, but everyone else is fucked.
Even then (at least for 8.04), Ubuntu supported the "your setup could use proprietary drivers, would you like to enable them" GUI which installs stuff like the nVidia drivers with no fuss. Are you sure you didn't do things the hard way ?
Sound has been notoriously complicated to set up on a number of chipsets. Alsa has flakey drivers for a number of them and the mess off "universal" interfaces at the upper level doesn't really help either.
In my experience, the only really reliable way to update Ubuntu (or pretty much anything for that matter) is by doing a clean reinstall. Assuming you have/home on a separate partition, like you should have anyway (I think this *still* isn't a default choice, which is a shame).
As a side effect it makes it much easier to switch distributions if you feel like it.
For instance, I've never installed a display driver in Windows that refused to switch resolutions... or rather, refused to switch to the resolution specified. Selecting 1680x1050@60hz and getting 1342x923.345 with 1280x800 shown on the screen (scrollable) at a refresh rate of 67.5453hz is VERY frustrating!
Well either you don't maintain a lot of Windows machines or this is completely made up. A *lot* of Windows drivers refuse to use the screen's resolution for no obvious reason (there's largely enough video memory and the chipset specs can easily drive the screen). This has happened to me with *3* of the 4 recent machines I had to set up (past couple months), including one laptop on an external screen. (and I did try alternate drivers, alternate setup utilities, etc.)
Granted it will not happen with the latest and greatest from nVidia or ATI but use an entry level chipset and a random screen and you can have lots of fun. At least with Linux you can (admittedly not very easily) *always* set up the damn thing the way you want it. Just put the modeline in the conf file and you're good to go. No such easy fix in Windows. When Windows says no, it's no. However stupid it may be.
And when I still used my iBook, a number of bugs in Tiger had to be fixed through the command line as well simply because there was no GUI to poke at the config files.
it's a 30,000 lb bomb with 5,000 lb of explosives [... ]
A few years ago it would have been impressive, but since the "crisis", 30 000 lb is, like, what, 100, maybe 150 kg ? Ok, it's gotten a bit better now, make it 200...
It's like when I had to go shoot a few scenes in Italy a few years back and I came to a toll booth on the highway and they asked for a few million lira. So I went "eeep, millions ! what am I going to do ! I'll never be able to afford this ! I'll be stuck here ! and I won't be able to ship my shots ! and.. uh wait, that's 3 euros (or whatever it was at the time), never mind.
Those stupid low scale units are *really* annoying.Get with the times already.
Communication? Will we be sensitive about "hate speech" and find comfort in regulation of expression, in euphemisms and feel-good speech. Hold it, when did we get in charge?
That's been happening for some time. Europe being (for once) at the forefront with a number of (legally) no-no topics, but the US has its own (as usual) bizarre implementations with "free speech zones" (is that what those remote "we can't hear you" areas are called ?), and other assorted weirdness. But for good or for bad, its creativity is why people still are fascinated by the US.
Black box testing isn't all that productive for RNGs. You can check distribution and very simple patterns, but beyond that it's a major headache. White box testing makes things much easier. Yay source code!
Good luck for testing the validity of a random generator from source code. This is major Ju-Ju. Generated randomness is deep black majick. It's *waaaay* simpler and efficient to just test the output over a few X runs for a very large X.
That's not to say that source code isn't useful to check for glaring mistakes, but if you want to check the validity of an algorithm by looking at it, you'd better be a professional mathematician with specific interests.
The Eiffel tower hasn't changed that much in the past 110 years... The MIT (IIRC) used to have a random data feed generated from a webcam and a lava lamp. I guess each datacenter ought to invest in a lavalamp...
Correction : after a quick Google, it seems that it was SGI, and that they actually patented the thing (which may or may not mean something depending on your jurisdiction). The site was (and still is apparently) lavarnd.org.
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I Guess the solution... Encrypt your Data regardless your situation?
At least not letting everybody use the same account would help a lot in such cases. Assuming Windows by default doesn't let a user read another user's files (I suppose it doesn't, but its defaults are sometimes weird).
But of course I don't think I've ever seen this setup in use in any of the families I know.
* nose not required
(from the Duke Nukem Forever EULA)
Ok, You hate shells, you made your point already.
But geeks will want the computing power local and as users become more savvy they're not likely to be as turned on by the Net as the OS.
This "users becoming savvy" thing has been mentioned for decades now and I see no sign of it ever happening. I'll believe in it when those savvy users play Duke Nukem Forever on their Desktop Linux.
The problem with Krugman is that he is relentlessly political and that is a bad trait for an economist.
Isn't that the purpose of an economist ? To spatter some figures and graphs and theories over whatever politics ? It doesn't come out of the blue, there's always an ideology behind it. There's no such thing as a "true" economy.
The Basque certainly should have their independence, too. Why not, after all? If a people decides it wants to not be ruled by another people, who are you to say "no"?
In that case, as in most others, 98% of the Basque (or Corsicans, or pretty much any other such annoying vocal minority) have no wish to be independent as it would be utterly economically stupid.
That's why they don't have their independence. Because the local governments actually listen to the people who live there, not to a handful of exalted lunatics.
And regarding the frequent justifications made in this thread that "this or that territory wasn't part of that other bit until recently", well go back a bit further and you'll likely find the exact opposite argument. It's utterly meaningless.
walk/run modifier is great imho it provides a much better way to seperate walk/run (which in most FPSes are two pretty different actions), would would be nice is variable speed for the walking
Indeed, I too have always so much wanted to have walk, stroll, trot, run, sprint in my FPS games. This has bothered me quite a bit. I'm glad MS is finally working on this
Because a dictionary getting any age rating is a good idea how?
You don't want kids to find out that Apple actually is a fruit.
Sorry but calling Linux arcane next to Windows is just too bizarre.
I quit using Windows in 3.11 because that's pretty much when it stopped working and used something that actually was logical and made sense instead. Even back then Linux worked way better.
Besides Linux actually comes with documentation, Windows doesn't.
MS user help forums are full of command lines (even though it takes twice as much work to copy and paste). Maybe home users don't like using a shell but they still when directed to do so despite your small sample. And professionals, whatever the system they run use it regularly.
I'm afraid I don't understand your strange arguments.
With Linux the users say "this sucks!" and what do the Linux developers and zealots say? "Well tough! GUI is teh suxorz! CLI is leet and roxorz! Sux it up or go back to Windblowz,LOL!" and you wonder why folks can't even give away your OS for free. if the "well tough" truly is your attitude, then you should join me. Join me in spreading the word far and wide that Linux is NOT for home users, but ONLY for those that are hackers or have IT experience.
But why should people be forced to use a shell in Linux ? Who is there to force them to do it ? I've been running Unix/Linux as my desktop for 15 years and those last 5 years I just never open a shell in day to day use. I install Linux desktops in offices and the people there certainly never use shells. They don't use any in Windows, why would they use one in Linux ? I'm certainly not forcing them to. They run OOo, a web client and a few graphical apps, just like pretty much any random user does. Nobody ever told them that a GUI was bad. What kind of fantasy world did you get that from ?
Because if CLI doesn't die that is EXACTLY what you are saying, because when you say "well tough" to the customer they say "How much is that copy of Home Premium again?". If you want to be like RMS and only care about whether something is "hackable" or not, wonderful. I am truly happy for you. But spreading lies like "Linux is ready for the desktop!" only makes Linux look like shit when the users see what a CLI ridden mess of arcane commands it truly is. If you want to get someone off of Windows, or advocate a non MSFT OS? Then Apple should be what you are evangelizing.
It won't die because a whole class of users depends on it, it's fast, convenient, easy and low bandwidth. The same way Perl-like languages won't die because a lot of people find them useful. Whether random users actually are or aren't afraid of them is irrelevant. Nobody forces them to use them.
Linux distributions that are meant for the desktop currently boot to a graphical desktop that is every bit as usable as any other platform. There's no "CLI mess whatsoever". Just a handful of scripts that are run at boot time. It's all very plain and the user doesn't get to ever see it unless he wants to.
*All* current platforms have a shell and the only one that had a completely broken one (Windows) is finally getting its act together. For some reason most users don't seem to care much and aren't leaving in droves (oh no, there's a terminal, run for your lives). On the other hand, the few who have a *need* for that tool *do* care very much and are probably very happy that MS finally fixed this glaring omission.
That doesn't change the fact that the users have spoken and they do NOT want CLI. So either CLI dies in a fire or Linux stays a niche.[ ... ] And THIS is why Linux will fail.
Nonsense. The CLI will *always* be there simply because you can do a lot more with it than with a GUI. Even Mac OS finally acnowledged it. If you don't want to use it, then don't. Nobody forces you to.
The users are indeed frightened of the CLI for some reason, even though as it has been pointed out elsewhere here, in many cases it is much simpler than the GUI (easy to cut and paste a fix for example). Well, tough. All they have to do is not to click on that icon. Just like they won't ever click on the "Administrative Tools" in Windows, even though it has a GUI (that's still incomprehensible if you don't RTFM, figure that).
Sorry but Linux has has already succedeed. Granted it hasn't displaced Windows (but then I don't think it was ever meant to), the only think it was ever *meant* to be, was an affordable (free, really), decent, hackable system. Which it has been for ages.
And the GUI and the CLI already work hand in hand everywhere.
By your own bizarre logic, since Windows has a terminal, and since Microsoft puts quite a bit of work in their CLI, then Linux must have won big time indeed.
For completeness' sake :
shutdown -f -t 0 # shutdown
shutdown -f -t 0 # reboot
Windows command line is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get.
According to the article, boot time is a little longer than XP and Vista (41.25 seconds vs XP's 40.03 and Vista's 40.16), but it's better than the previous build's boot time of 44.81 seconds.
This has to be the weirdest benchmarks ever.
I'm really disappointed that the Top500 supercomputer list doesn't even list their boot up and shut down times. What kind of list is that ?
"Our system boots up really fast ! And shuts down too ! Yay ! Oh and it runs some stuff too."
(disclaimer : I only run games in Windows, and even when rebooting to play something I don't give a damn about boot up time... although I actually run Win 7, out of curiosity mostly)
These two are dueling now, but some third OS might have the last laugh here still.
Are you saying some people still run OS/2 ?
I have NEVER had a problem setting up a resolution or refresh rate on a Windows machine. If the option was available in the Display Settings GUI and the graphics adapter and monitor both supported it, the switch was always perfectly fine.
Oh yes, that works. But regularly, resolutions *should* be there (like the native resolution of the display) and aren't. And that's where the pain starts.
Can anyone figure out the Vista/7 control panel without anyone holding their hand?
I really wish (in "complete" mode, or whatever it's called) they'd sort along the columns, starting down, instead of across them. It always makes me feel like each item is placed at random until I remember their weird way of displaying stuff.
That little change would make the whole thing much more usable for me.
Bullshit. Even setting up display resolutions and refresh rates (don't get me started on xorg and nVidia's proprietary driver) or sound on my setup required CLI in 7.10 and 8.04...
Sure, it's great when everything works out of the box for some people, but everyone else is fucked.
Even then (at least for 8.04), Ubuntu supported the "your setup could use proprietary drivers, would you like to enable them" GUI which installs stuff like the nVidia drivers with no fuss. Are you sure you didn't do things the hard way ?
Sound has been notoriously complicated to set up on a number of chipsets. Alsa has flakey drivers for a number of them and the mess off "universal" interfaces at the upper level doesn't really help either.
In my experience, the only really reliable way to update Ubuntu (or pretty much anything for that matter) is by doing a clean reinstall. Assuming you have /home on a separate partition, like you should have anyway (I think this *still* isn't a default choice, which is a shame).
As a side effect it makes it much easier to switch distributions if you feel like it.
For instance, I've never installed a display driver in Windows that refused to switch resolutions... or rather, refused to switch to the resolution specified. Selecting 1680x1050@60hz and getting 1342x923.345 with 1280x800 shown on the screen (scrollable) at a refresh rate of 67.5453hz is VERY frustrating!
Well either you don't maintain a lot of Windows machines or this is completely made up.
A *lot* of Windows drivers refuse to use the screen's resolution for no obvious reason (there's largely enough video memory and the chipset specs can easily drive the screen). This has happened to me with *3* of the 4 recent machines I had to set up (past couple months), including one laptop on an external screen. (and I did try alternate drivers, alternate setup utilities, etc.)
Granted it will not happen with the latest and greatest from nVidia or ATI but use an entry level chipset and a random screen and you can have lots of fun. At least with Linux you can (admittedly not very easily) *always* set up the damn thing the way you want it. Just put the modeline in the conf file and you're good to go.
No such easy fix in Windows. When Windows says no, it's no. However stupid it may be.
And when I still used my iBook, a number of bugs in Tiger had to be fixed through the command line as well simply because there was no GUI to poke at the config files.
it's a 30,000 lb bomb with 5,000 lb of explosives [ ... ]
A few years ago it would have been impressive, but since the "crisis", 30 000 lb is, like, what, 100, maybe 150 kg ? Ok, it's gotten a bit better now, make it 200...
It's like when I had to go shoot a few scenes in Italy a few years back and I came to a toll booth on the highway and they asked for a few million lira. So I went "eeep, millions ! what am I going to do ! I'll never be able to afford this ! I'll be stuck here ! and I won't be able to ship my shots ! and .. uh wait, that's 3 euros (or whatever it was at the time), never mind.
Those stupid low scale units are *really* annoying.Get with the times already.
I wonder what we overdo. Sports maybe?
I actually laughed at that.
Communication? Will we be sensitive about "hate speech" and find comfort in regulation of expression, in euphemisms and feel-good speech.
Hold it, when did we get in charge?
That's been happening for some time. Europe being (for once) at the forefront with a number of (legally) no-no topics, but the US has its own (as usual) bizarre implementations with "free speech zones" (is that what those remote "we can't hear you" areas are called ?), and other assorted weirdness. But for good or for bad, its creativity is why people still are fascinated by the US.
Black box testing isn't all that productive for RNGs. You can check distribution and very simple patterns, but beyond that it's a major headache. White box testing makes things much easier. Yay source code!
Good luck for testing the validity of a random generator from source code. This is major Ju-Ju. Generated randomness is deep black majick. It's *waaaay* simpler and efficient to just test the output over a few X runs for a very large X.
That's not to say that source code isn't useful to check for glaring mistakes, but if you want to check the validity of an algorithm by looking at it, you'd better be a professional mathematician with specific interests.
On a chip, adding 2^256-1 and 1 may not equal 2^256 when:
5. You're using an original Pentium
(cheap shot, but since it's an intel story...)
The Eiffel tower hasn't changed that much in the past 110 years... The MIT (IIRC) used to have a random data feed generated from a webcam and a lava lamp. I guess each datacenter ought to invest in a lavalamp...
Correction : after a quick Google, it seems that it was SGI, and that they actually patented the thing (which may or may not mean something depending on your jurisdiction). The site was (and still is apparently) lavarnd.org.
The prototype makes use of weather forecasts, 10-meter altitude data with a vertical resolution of 4 inches
You are so doomed...