Oh wait, I use the weight charts from the 80's when the dividing lines between normal/overweight/obese hadn't been shifted as much as *40-50* pounds downwards.
I'm betting within 10 years there will be an accord preventing any country from stepping on any other celestial body because it would affect its environment.
... it's considered REALLY bad form to not stick to your proposed research project on shared telescopes where you have to apply for time. I don't know how the WIYN handles proposals, but the general KPNO one from a few years back wanted (among other things to justify the scientific program) your target list, etc. While you have control over what gets observed at the time of observation (because seeing conditions change and might cause you to shift priority), switching over to something else "just because" could result in your NOT getting time the next time you want it!
(I got extra lucky once and got an extra night on the 0.9 Coude Feed because the people scheduled next cancelled! The hardest part was convincing America West to let me change my no-change no-refund ticket that this was an insanely improbable circumstance - I kept telling them that it was easier to win the lottery.:-) When they found out I was a grad student working on my thesis, they were really REALLY nice about it.)
Were either alive, I could teach them enough to get by in under an hour.
Have YOU tried to learn it? It's actually very simple. Two modes: insert and edit; you can configure it to tell you which one you're in. Move around with the arrow keys or hjkl, which admittedly isn't intuitive, but neither is Alt+F4.
Now, getting around... w for word, e for end of word, d for delete, c for change, and so on --- most of the letters correspond to their direction. Build things layer by layer and soon you'll be using:map to bind unused keys to very complicated scripts.
It's a learning curve. And it was much faster learning advanced vi than it has been learning simple Word. I wouldn't sic Office on my worst enemy if they were starting out with no experience at all.
Actually - in 40 states, a lesbian (or any other non-heterosexual) can be fired "just because" they're non-heterosexual, even if they obey every company policy to the letter (well, except for the one marked "all employees must be heterosexual").
I've been wondering: I know Cracker Barrel has such a policy, yet I've seen them in Massachusetts where it would be illegal to discriminate on the basis of orientation... how do they get around that?
Uh, if "those things" refer to getting the work done, I already have that down pat - once you're over the learning curve, it's done. Vi is vi is vi (unless it's vivivi - the editor of the beast!).
However, it sounds as if "those things" actually refers to something else, namely the ability for some other entity to complete erode my privacy, have unprecidented access to my system (it is mine, like it or not), and leaving me open to unheard of security issues.
Thank you, but I prefer that *I* keep track of how I work, who I talk to, what I look at, how I make *my* documents, and with whom *I* share them. It's not up to the system to decide which data belongs to me since to do so it must analyze my things. To insinuate oneself either personally, or impersonally through the operating system would be simply rude.
You wouldn't tolerate your officemate or the person in the next apartment or even Richard Stallman rifleing through your desk/sock/nightstand drawers. Why should you tolerate it from Microsoft (or Apple, or Sun, or RedHat)?
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What were the people living there experiencing in 1200AD? 400AD? 400BC? 3000BC? In all of these times the temperature was WARMER than it is now!
Most scientists do not question that there is a warming trend presently active. Most do question that the cause is (predominently) man-made. The problem with the "global warming debate" is that this distiction is not made. This is extremely unfortunate because it has direct and immediate consequences as to what our options are and what our long-term strategies should be.
Since you're basically calling me a liar, I shouldn't even bother responding to your really rude response, but since I do know what I'm talking about, I'll make the effort if you promise to be more civil from now on.
One example: in Mass. there was a program called MISTEP which was designed to get math, science, and english majors into K-12 teaching jobs. They put you through am 18-month intensive course to get an MS in Education, gave you classroom experience, and set you up with your first position. In return, you promised to teach in the system for 5 years.
My brother went through this program. He taught in a different school every year because every spring they had across the board layoffs in math and science, then everyone had to scramble fighting for the same spots. One place he was at wanted to keep him, but the math position went away --- but they really liked that he had coached girls basketball. Ah - you say - that's just one case. Well, no - the program closed down after a few years because the same thing was happening to EVERYONE. They all promised to teach for 5 or more years, but couldn't find permanent work. The best you could get was an entry-level position every year and get laid off at the end of the year, every year. The next year you could find yourself in an inner-city school across the state, that is if the school reopened the position. So you might find a position, but it'd be 100 miles from where you lived.
That's not at odds with the situation you describe. Yes, at the same time they're begging for qualified math and science teachers, but at the last minute when they need then will hire people off of the street. If there are cuts in the budget, those positions will be let go until the budget is rejuggled, since another "emergency" can always be altered later on. Thus, if you're a math/science teacher you can't progress in the system since every year or every couple of years you have to start over. The two situations go hand in hand - why stay in teaching if your career dead ends at the outset? So, you get a cycle of "no one's applying" and "there are no stable jobs".
My original (and still completely valid) point was - you NEVER see this happening with PE positions or coaching positions. Those positions are deemed "necessary", as if the lack of a varsity football team will destroy academic performance.
News flash: the EPA is not a scientific organization. Cite scientific publications from refereed scientific journals. For all we know the author of the EPA report got their degree in basket weaving and is a political appointee - it amounts to a press release.
Or for starters - check out what the International Panel on Climate Change has to say. They're more credible. But thanks for making my point for me --- the problem with this issue isn't that there is or isn't warming, it's that popular opinion is swayed by reports that aren't under strict scrutiny. Sadly, this even extends into the research community these days - I've seen papers published that are just wrong because it matches what the referees read in an op-ed piece in last week's paper!!!
Galileo must be crying in heaven --- 400 years later and we're still making the same mistakes.
Sports programs are SO INCREDIBLY OVER-SUPPORTED in our school systems - to the point where they degrade academics. Take some time and actually do your homework: it is easier to build a new sports facility in a public school in the US than it is to upgrade an existing science lab or library. Arts and music programs are virtually non-existant nowadays.
Math and Science teachers are the first laid off every year when there's a budget cut (to the point that it's almost impossible to get tenure because you're constantly shuffled to the bottom of the pile with each transfer). On the other hand, how often do you see a PE instructor or coach on the unemployment line?
I know you put chess and go on the list --- OK most schools have Chess clubs. However, there's no good reason to limit it to just a few board games because they're somehow less "threatening" to nay-sayers. This is an opportunity to make some very substianial changes in how schools treat students and teachers. It should be encouraged.
As I read is, it is about changing or deleting incorrect data, not questionable conclusions drawn from correct data.
Right - heavens forbid that we change or delete the questionable conclusions from correct data (which among other examples already listed would put most of the anthropogenic global warming banter away for good).
Sigh - I miss science and the scientific method.
Does anyone remember back in 1997 when Gore announced practically every month was the warmest month ever recorded? Does anyone remember that for most (all?) of those months when the data was actually processed that it really wasn't true? (What? Your local paper didn't carry that story?)
Maybe it's a state-by-state thing. On my ISDN line, there's no long-distance carrier. I just refused to pick one. They've been sending me a bill for $0.23 for something like three years, every month. I figure at some point, I'll send them a quarter...
That'd be cool, he'd laugh you right off the phone and wish you luck in the unemployment line.
M$ now controls who gets hired and who gets fired? Doesn't that pretty much make my point obvious - if a vendor called and TOLD me we'd have to buy something immediately or face the consequences that if we didn't go along they'd charge us more when we "came to our senses", I'd tell them to go to hell and come up with another solution.
Doing so, and saving my small 4-person company tons of $$$, I'd expect a raise and promotion.
Of course, I've been doing that sort of thing for the last 20 years. What's YOUR track record?
If you're going to work for the Man for 30+ years, you'd be better off finding out what you really love to do, and work towards being the best that you can be at that. Anything else says you're just in it for the money. Thatï½s certainly not a crime, but it will probably show in your work when compared to someone who really does love what they do.
Heh - I've done that - twice. Both times the career I loved went nowhere because the $$$ dried up, and I had to start over. Now I'm pushing 40, and have almost nothing saved for retirement (I retire about when SS dries up - thanks Mom and Dad!), and none of my previous employers had anything like pension plans, etc.
If you're under 30, go for the $$$, and BANK IT. Putting away $100 a week will take care of you 25 years down the line. Having a job you like is great, but not at the cost of everything else in your life.
If you're over 30 - DEFINITELY go for the $$$ because chances are, it won't be there in 5-10 years.
If you REALLY LOVE YOUR JOB, don't let them know - they'll just pay you less because they know you'll be reluctant to walk from it. Do a kick-ass job, but never let them forget that you expect to be compensated for that work, and compensated well.
(Yeah, I know this sounds pessimistic. It is. When >1/3 of your well-educated, highly-talented and experienced friends are out of work for months on end, there's something wrong.)
I work for a small company (4 people) and MS called us to try and get us to subscribe to their maintenance program. The first thing they said was "MS Project 2002 is going to be 4 times the cost of Project 2000 unless we got on the upgrade package".
Oh that would be *beautiful*... my immediate response: Oh! That makes the decision
much simpler - we'll just migrate to Linux and save lots of $$$. Retraining is no worse
than training people to use M$ products anyway (probably less in the long run).
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Another thing I've done is just say "never mind" call back and do it with another drone. Repeat until you get what you want... They're never consistent, esp. the increasingly mythical "supervisors".
Has anyone else notices that no one is ever around at these companies? And none of the drones know who they work for? "What's your bosses name? I DON'T KNOW.?????"
#1 - send the person who is telling you to sub-contract in India TO India. He'll be able to manage both of your offices more efficiently from there!:-)
#2 - move the company HQ (incl. all of the top brass, finance, marketing, and HR) to India and sub-contract the tech jobs to the US. Think of how much $$$ your company will save then!
There are far too many people out of work in the US to be doing this right now. I took a 20%+ pay cut after being unemployed for several months. I lucked out because I REALLY like my new job, despite the cost adjustment, and I'm sure that many people who are out of work would dearly LOVE the opportunity to apply for the positions you have at a reduced cost.
Your company is not helping itself if it shortchanges US workers, unless what you're selling is for a nearly 100% foreign market - if we're all unemployed, how can we afford to purchase it? Another way to look at it: how many Indian companies are contracting out to US workers?
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So, by your (non-)logic, non-heterosexual relatives of a child should be cast out of the family until they're no longer minors?
Of course, you never stopped to consider how much heterosexual sexual innuendo is around us 24/7 from things on TV to subliminal shapes on boxes of Ritz crackers...
The standard suggestion applies here: go TALK to your non-heterosexual family members, neighbors, co-workers, friends, and acquaintences. They'll help you get over all of these issues.
One possibilty would be to use it to change your appearence...
Aha! I am the master of disguise!
It'd be cool to show up at work naked but projecting a
three-piece suit. Or as a leopard. Or as the CEO.:-)
"I'll be staying on Mars, two weeks... two weeks... two weeks..."
Slashdot Mirror
Hope not --- Eps Eri is too young to have much in the way of a planetary system (although at least one planet orbits it), let alone any evolved life.
I suppose you could have the equivalent of stellar system "camping" - hopping around from place to place and sending out signals...
I think they're anorexic, skinny, and normal.
Oh wait, I use the weight charts from the 80's when the dividing lines between normal/overweight/obese hadn't been shifted as much as *40-50* pounds downwards.
I'm betting within 10 years there will be an accord preventing any country from stepping on any other celestial body because it would affect its environment.
The satellite that wouldn't die.
It had a mission of two years. It lasted 19.
And then it only stopped being used because it
was turned off.
... it's considered REALLY bad form to not stick to your proposed research project on shared telescopes where you have to apply for time. I don't know how the WIYN handles proposals, but the general KPNO one from a few years back wanted (among other things to justify the scientific program) your target list, etc. While you have control over what gets observed at the time of observation (because seeing conditions change and might cause you to shift priority), switching over to something else "just because" could result in your NOT getting time the next time you want it!
:-) When they found out I was a grad student working on my thesis, they were really REALLY nice about it.)
(I got extra lucky once and got an extra night on the 0.9 Coude Feed because the people scheduled next cancelled! The hardest part was convincing America West to let me change my no-change no-refund ticket that this was an insanely improbable circumstance - I kept telling them that it was easier to win the lottery.
Were either alive, I could teach them enough to get by in under an hour.
:map to bind unused keys to very complicated scripts.
Have YOU tried to learn it? It's actually very simple. Two modes: insert and edit; you can configure it to tell you which one you're in.
Move around with the arrow keys or hjkl, which
admittedly isn't intuitive, but neither is Alt+F4.
Now, getting around... w for word, e for end of word, d for delete, c for change, and so on --- most of the letters correspond to their direction.
Build things layer by layer and soon you'll be
using
It's a learning curve. And it was much faster learning advanced vi than it has been learning simple Word. I wouldn't sic Office on my worst
enemy if they were starting out with no experience at all.
Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
Actually - in 40 states, a lesbian (or any other non-heterosexual) can be fired "just because" they're non-heterosexual, even if they obey every company policy to the letter (well, except for the one marked "all employees must be heterosexual").
I've been wondering: I know Cracker Barrel has such a policy, yet I've seen them in Massachusetts where it would be illegal to discriminate on the basis of orientation... how do they get around that?
"In 27 years he [B.G] claims he has never called in sick or missed work. Not even once."
Heh. If I had 1% of that $$$ I wouldn't miss work even once either!!!
Uh, if "those things" refer to getting the work done, I already have that down pat - once you're over the learning curve, it's done. Vi is vi is vi (unless it's vivivi - the editor of the beast!).
However, it sounds as if "those things" actually refers to something else, namely the ability for some other entity to complete erode my privacy, have unprecidented access to my system (it is mine, like it or not), and leaving me open to unheard of security issues.
Thank you, but I prefer that *I* keep track of how I work, who I talk to, what I look at, how I make *my* documents, and with whom *I* share them. It's not up to the system to decide which data belongs to me since to do so it must analyze my things. To insinuate oneself either personally, or impersonally through the operating system would be simply rude.
You wouldn't tolerate your officemate or the person in the next apartment or even Richard Stallman rifleing through your desk/sock/nightstand drawers. Why should you tolerate it from Microsoft (or Apple, or Sun, or RedHat)?
What were the people living there experiencing in 1200AD? 400AD? 400BC? 3000BC? In all of these times the temperature was WARMER than it is now!
Most scientists do not question that there is a warming trend presently active. Most do question that the cause is (predominently) man-made. The problem with the "global warming debate" is that this distiction is not made. This is extremely unfortunate because it has direct and immediate consequences as to what our options are and what our long-term strategies should be.
Since you're basically calling me a liar, I shouldn't even bother responding to your really rude response, but since I do know what I'm talking about, I'll make the effort if you promise to be more civil from now on.
One example: in Mass. there was a program called MISTEP which was designed to get math, science, and english majors into K-12 teaching jobs. They put you through am 18-month intensive course to get an MS in Education, gave you classroom experience, and set you up with your first position. In return, you promised to teach in the system for 5 years.
My brother went through this program. He taught in a different school every year because every spring they had across the board layoffs in math and science, then everyone had to scramble fighting for the same spots. One place he was at wanted to keep him, but the math position went away --- but they really liked that he had coached girls basketball.
Ah - you say - that's just one case. Well, no - the program closed down after a few years because the same thing was happening to EVERYONE. They all promised to teach for 5 or more years, but couldn't find permanent work. The best you could get was an entry-level position every year and get laid off at the end of the year, every year. The next year you could find yourself in an inner-city school across the state, that is if the school reopened the position. So you might find a position, but it'd be 100 miles from where you lived.
That's not at odds with the situation you describe. Yes, at the same time they're begging for qualified math and science teachers, but at the last minute when they need then will hire people off of the street. If there are cuts in the budget, those positions will be let go until the budget is rejuggled, since another "emergency" can always be altered later on.
Thus, if you're a math/science teacher you can't progress in the system since every year or every couple of years you have to start over. The two situations go hand in hand - why stay in teaching if your career dead ends at the outset? So, you get a cycle of "no one's applying" and "there are no stable jobs".
My original (and still completely valid) point was - you NEVER see this happening with PE positions or coaching positions. Those positions are deemed "necessary", as if the lack of a varsity football team will destroy academic performance.
News flash: the EPA is not a scientific organization. Cite scientific publications from refereed scientific journals. For all we know the author of the EPA report got their
degree in basket weaving and is a political appointee - it amounts to a press release.
Or for starters - check out what the International Panel on Climate Change has to say.
They're more credible. But thanks for making my point for me --- the problem with this issue isn't that there is or isn't warming, it's that popular opinion is swayed by reports that aren't under strict scrutiny. Sadly, this even extends into the research community these days - I've seen papers published that are just wrong because it matches what the referees read in an op-ed piece in last week's paper!!!
Galileo must be crying in heaven --- 400 years later and we're still making the same mistakes.
Oh for Pete's sake.
Sports programs are SO INCREDIBLY OVER-SUPPORTED in our
school systems - to the point where they degrade academics.
Take some time and actually do your homework: it is easier
to build a new sports facility in a public school in the US than
it is to upgrade an existing science lab or library. Arts and
music programs are virtually non-existant nowadays.
Math and Science teachers are the first laid off every year
when there's a budget cut (to the point that it's almost
impossible to get tenure because you're constantly shuffled
to the bottom of the pile with each transfer). On the other
hand, how often do you see a PE instructor or coach on the
unemployment line?
I know you put chess and go on the list --- OK most schools
have Chess clubs. However, there's no good reason to limit
it to just a few board games because they're somehow less
"threatening" to nay-sayers. This is an opportunity to make
some very substianial changes in how schools treat students
and teachers. It should be encouraged.
As I read is, it is about changing or deleting incorrect data, not questionable conclusions drawn from correct data.
Right - heavens forbid that we change or delete the questionable conclusions from correct data (which among other examples already listed would put most of the anthropogenic global warming banter away for good).
Sigh - I miss science and the scientific method.
Does anyone remember back in 1997 when Gore announced practically every month was the warmest month ever recorded? Does anyone remember that for most (all?) of those months when the data was actually processed that it really wasn't true?
(What? Your local paper didn't carry that story?)
Maybe it's a state-by-state thing. On my ISDN line, there's no long-distance carrier. I just refused to pick one. They've been sending me a bill for $0.23 for something like three years, every month. I figure at some point, I'll send them a quarter...
That'd be cool, he'd laugh you right off the phone and wish you luck in the unemployment line.
M$ now controls who gets hired and who gets fired? Doesn't that pretty much make my point obvious - if a vendor called and TOLD me we'd have to buy something immediately or face the consequences that if we didn't go along they'd charge us more when we "came to our senses", I'd tell them to go to hell and come up with another solution.
Doing so, and saving my small 4-person company tons of $$$, I'd expect a raise and promotion.
Of course, I've been doing that sort of thing for the last 20 years. What's YOUR track record?
If you're going to work for the Man for 30+ years, you'd be better off finding out what you really love to do, and work towards being the best that you can be at that. Anything else says you're just in it for the money. Thatï½s certainly not a crime, but it will probably show in your work when compared to someone who really does love what they do.
Heh - I've done that - twice. Both times the career I loved went nowhere because the $$$ dried up, and I had to start over. Now I'm pushing 40, and have almost nothing saved for retirement (I retire about when SS dries up - thanks Mom and Dad!), and none of my previous employers had anything like pension plans, etc.
If you're under 30, go for the $$$, and BANK IT.
Putting away $100 a week will take care of you 25 years down the line. Having a job you like is great, but not at the cost of everything else in your life.
If you're over 30 - DEFINITELY go for the $$$ because chances are, it won't be there in 5-10 years.
If you REALLY LOVE YOUR JOB, don't let them know - they'll just pay you less because they know you'll be reluctant to walk from it. Do a kick-ass job, but never let them forget that you expect to be compensated for that work, and compensated well.
(Yeah, I know this sounds pessimistic. It is. When >1/3 of your well-educated, highly-talented and experienced friends are out of work for months on end, there's something wrong.)
Oh that would be *beautiful*... my immediate response: Oh! That makes the decision much simpler - we'll just migrate to Linux and save lots of $$$. Retraining is no worse than training people to use M$ products anyway (probably less in the long run).
Another thing I've done is just say "never mind" call back and do it with
another drone. Repeat until you get what you want... They're never
consistent, esp. the increasingly mythical "supervisors".
Has anyone else notices that no one is ever around at these companies?
And none of the drones know who they work for? "What's your bosses
name? I DON'T KNOW.?????"
Sometiiiimes you have control over the GELatin!
But this time the Gelitan has controhl over YOU!
you know - with this many patches, IE is moving from the realm of science fiction to high fashion!
No joke - my both my undergrad and grad school DID THIS, and refused to budge when people complained about it.
#1 - send the person who is telling you to sub-contract in India TO India. :-)
He'll be able to manage both of your offices more efficiently from there!
#2 - move the company HQ (incl. all of the top brass, finance, marketing,
and HR) to India and sub-contract the tech jobs to the US. Think of
how much $$$ your company will save then!
There are far too many people out of work in the US to be doing this right now.
I took a 20%+ pay cut after being unemployed for several months.
I lucked out because I REALLY like my new job, despite the cost adjustment,
and I'm sure that many people who are out of work would dearly LOVE the
opportunity to apply for the positions you have at a reduced cost.
Your company is not helping itself if it shortchanges US workers, unless
what you're selling is for a nearly 100% foreign market - if we're all
unemployed, how can we afford to purchase it? Another way to look at it:
how many Indian companies are contracting out to US workers?
So, by your (non-)logic, non-heterosexual relatives of a child should be cast out of the family until they're no longer minors?
Of course, you never stopped to consider how much heterosexual sexual innuendo is around us 24/7 from things on TV to subliminal shapes on boxes of Ritz crackers...
The standard suggestion applies here: go TALK to your non-heterosexual family members, neighbors, co-workers, friends, and acquaintences. They'll help you get over all of these issues.
"I'll be staying on Mars, two weeks... two weeks... two weeks..."