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Paintable LCDs

frambooz writes "Nature Magazine has an article about a team from the Eindhoven University of Technology and Philips Research Laboratories in the Netherlands, who discovered a way to create 1 layer paintable LCD-screens. It can be used on glass and plastic already, and fabric in the near future. 'Homes of the future could change their wallpaper from cream to cornflower blue at the touch of a button, says Dirk Broer. His team has developed paint-on liquid crystal displays (LCDs) that offer the technology. (...) The technique could create giant TV screens, digital billboards and walls that change colour. Slim, plastic LCDs sewn into fabric could display e-mail or text messages on your sleeve.' Which leads to another problem: with an LCD-suit, where would you put which app?" There's also an AP article.

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  1. here's the text by trollercoaster · · Score: 0, Redundant

    LCD paint licked
    Walls and curtains could sport liquid-crystal digital displays.
    2 May 2002

    HELEN PEARSON

    One layer LCDs could lead to smaller, cheaper, lighter gadgets.
    © R. Penterman et al.

    Homes of the future could change their wallpaper from cream to cornflower blue at the touch of a button, says Dirk Broer. His team has developed paint-on liquid crystal displays (LCDs) that offer the technology.

    Liquid crystals are peculiar liquids: their molecules spontaneously line up, rather than being randomly orientated as in a normal liquid. Passing a voltage across the molecules switches their alignment, blocking the transmission of light so a display changes from light to dark.

    Current LCDs on digital watches, mobile phones and laptops sandwich the crystal between heavy glass plates. The complicated production process is time-consuming, expensive and restricts the size of screens to just 1 metre square.

    Broer and his colleagues have devised a new open-sandwich technique that instead deposits a layer of liquid crystal onto a single underlying sheet. Working at Eindhoven University of Technology and Philips Research Laboratories in the Netherlands, Broer's team has already produced prototypes on glass and plastic; fabric could be next.

    The technique could create giant TV screens, digital billboards and walls that change colour. Slim, plastic LCDs sewn into fabric could display e-mail or text messages on your sleeve. "It depends what future societies want," says Broer.

    The technique should feed people's thirst for smaller, cheaper gadgets. Conventional glass LCDs now make up an increasing part of a laptop's weight - plastic versions could change that, says Peter Raynes, who studies LCD technology at the University of Oxford, UK.

    Crystal glazing

    Broer's team made the LCD paint by mixing liquid crystal with molecules that link together into a rigid polymer when exposed to ultraviolet. In a two-stage process they effectively build tiny boxes holding the liquid1.

    Don't expect to buy a watch featuring one of the new displays in the next six months
    Peter Raynes, University of Oxford, UK

    They coat a glass or plastic base with a thin layer of the LCD paint and mask out squares so that a blast of ultraviolet forms a grid of walls. When they remove the mask, a second exposure - at a wavelength that does not penetrate the whole liquid layer - seals over the boxes with a lid.

    Standard LCDs, which are divided up into pixels, turn dark when a voltage crosses between electrodes on the two glass plates. The new displays instead pass voltage between two points on the same plate. Colour LCDs fit each pixel with red, green and blue colour filters.

    "Don't expect to buy a watch featuring one of the new displays in the next six months," warns Raynes, however. He cautions that the technique needs work: compared with glass, the thin outer layer may be more easily penetrated by oxygen or water that degrade the crystal.

    References

    # Penterman, R. et al. Single-substrate liquid-crystal displays by photo-enforced stratification. Nature, 417, 55 - 58, (2002).

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  2. Lcd condoms by modipodio · · Score: 0, Troll

    IT WILL HAPPEN ONE DAY!

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    1. Re:Lcd condoms by danro · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Not to mention, how the hell is windows democratic?

      To my knowledge everything windows is controlled by one single entity, Microsoft, and ultimately by a handful of people (Ballmer, Gates etc.).
      And they are, of course, unelected and unaccountable.

      I am not saying that for example linux (the most "democratic") is anything but a meritocracy. But when I am faced with a choice between meritocracy and despotism, I choose meritocracy every time.

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    2. Re:Lcd condoms by modipodio · · Score: 1

      sig heil mein root!!

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  3. Cars? by 5arah · · Score: 1, Funny

    I'm looking forward to painting cars with this...then EVERYONE can have flames on their SUV.

    1. Re:Cars? by danro · · Score: 2

      I'm looking forward to painting cars with this...then EVERYONE can have flames on their SUV.

      Moving flames too!
      Now, the only problem is how the hell to afford a SUV...

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    2. Re:Cars? by hagardtroll · · Score: 3, Funny

      Remember Mood Rings?

      You could have a mood car. One that changes color depending on how aggressive driver you are. Your car computer could detect your mood from your driving style.

      Red for 'Get Outta my way.',
      Blue for 'I'm driving the speed limit.'
      Green for 'I'm on vacation.'
      Flashing Yellow/Red for 'I'm driving erratically.'

    3. Re:Cars? by modecx · · Score: 1

      ...EVERYONE can have flames on their SUV

      That's a problem that is easy (and cheaply) enough to solve. I have a gallon of gasoline and a book of matches that would be more than happy to accomidate any SUV driver's wishes to have flames on their vehicle. As a bonus, mine are even animated! How much better can it get, I ask!

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    4. Re:Cars? by Xaoswolf · · Score: 3, Interesting
      as heard over the police band radio "Attention all units, I'm in hot pursuit of a red station wagon... make that a blue... no green... ok now it's plaid... well at least it's a station wagon."

      The only other improvement I would want, is an LCD liscense plate...

    5. Re:Cars? by Surlyboi · · Score: 1

      I think I'd have to classify that possibility as a
      Bad Thing . As I could see the rather
      huge potential for accidents as some guy watching
      that repeating tableau of Calvin pissing on a Ford
      logo ends up paying too much attention to the car
      next to him and not on the road.

      Of course, the insurance companies will love it, as
      it offers yet another reason to raise peoples'
      premiums to ever more ridiculous levels...

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  4. Where would you put which app? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The web browser, conveniently opened to you-know-where, on the back part of your pants...

  5. Kids and these Screens by dirkdidit · · Score: 1

    I don't imagine it would be a good idea to have one of these paint on screens in a home where small children are present. Kids tend to make a mess out of traditional monitors, but ones that cover an entire wall? Thats an accident waiting to happen.

    1. Re:Kids and these Screens by Chan · · Score: 1

      Kids make messes of walls without screens. I see no difference %-)

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    2. Re:Kids and these Screens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your can have the wall be covers with some sort of plastic protective cover

    3. Re:Kids and these Screens by bhawbaker · · Score: 1

      how about giving them electronic markers like those come with electronic whiteboards.. the children can draw whatever they want, and parents can clean it with a single touch.....OR automatically download it to the home computer to be burned onto cd which will be distrubuted between relatives.

  6. user input by __aahlyu4518 · · Score: 1

    "Which leads to another problem: with an LCD-suit, where would you put which app?"

    I'm a little afraid for user input if i'd put my apps in wrong places...

  7. LCD Suit... by nob · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...with an LCD-suit, where would you put which app?

    Well, Windows XP could go on my wife's butt. They're both unnecessarily big and bloated, and despite what some people say, they can be trimmed down with some work.

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    1. Re:LCD Suit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, but your wife's butt only has one hole...

    2. Re:LCD Suit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the award for loving husband of the year goes to...

  8. Obligatory Joke by SplendidIsolatn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Slim, plastic LCDs sewn into fabric could display e-mail or text messages on your sleeve.' Which leads to another problem: with an LCD-suit, where would you put which app?"

    Lets see...
    Front of pants, PKUnZip
    Back of pants, DownloadAccelerator
    options are endless....

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    1. Re:Obligatory Joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Front of pants, Magnify.exe

    2. Re:Obligatory Joke by Atzanteol · · Score: 1

      Mebbe some 'virus protection' software for the front of ones briefs...

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    3. Re:Obligatory Joke by l0wland · · Score: 1
      Front of pants, PKUnZip

      Usually, file-compression is quite useless on ~1 Kb files.

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    4. Re:Obligatory Joke by supermoose · · Score: 1

      Boxer shorts, VirusScan? =)

    5. Re:Obligatory Joke by zeno_2 · · Score: 2

      Try raring up a 1k file, mine grew to 81k, this may be a good thing for the parent poster =)

  9. This finally enables me by knulleke · · Score: 0

    ...to play doom on my t-shirt!
    ...type a word document on my pants
    ...calculate budgets on my boxer shorts (and hand them to the CEO saying they have been used well)

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  10. hehe... wearable lcds by llamalicious · · Score: 1

    the mind shudders...
    I'd of course run linux across my shoulders, chest and back. Like a tattoo that I want people to see.
    Guess I'd run Windows across my ass.

  11. Locations. by saintlupus · · Score: 1, Funny

    with an LCD-suit, where would you put which app?

    [Tycho voice]

    On my wang. Everything... on... my... wang.

    [/Tycho voice]

    --saint

    1. Re:Locations. by NonSequor · · Score: 2

      Isn't that more of a Gabe line?

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    2. Re:Locations. by interiot · · Score: 2

      yes, yes, no, sorta, and yes. I don't know who typed in all the text for the archives, but they're my hero.

    3. Re:Locations. by farnsaw · · Score: 1

      Are you still running a WANG mainframe? My Old PII 350 runs faster than that!

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  12. invisibility by Fucky+the+troll · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You could use this stuff on fabric along with tiny video cameras to create predator-style invisibility.

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    1. Re:invisibility by kippy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Wait a minute... How is this a troll? This is the best idea for this stuff that i've heard yet! yeah, yeah, all these suggestions about running applications on private parts are cute and all but this actually sounds like a solid idea.

    2. Re:invisibility by oojah · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's a great idea, but I seriously doubt that it would work in reality.

      It might be possible to get it to work for a fixed view point, but as far as all round invisibility goes, it's unlikely.

      Here (picture link) is why. If the person in the middle is covered in this paintand has cameras looking behind him to control what is shown on the suit and the other two are looking at the same point, then we can see that the man on the left would expect to see part of a tree and the man on the right would expect to see part of a house.

      So what happens? I've no idea. If there was just one onlooker and we knew where he was, then a more realistic picture could be shown.

      Don't hold your breath in other words... :)

      Roger

      (That doesn't make your parent post a troll though)

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    3. Re:invisibility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ever consider tiny cameras all around the suit? the cameras on the right side looking out, will define what the left side shows. achieving the color depths and textures etc to be perfect would be a nightmare... but just getting halfway there would be a major competitive advantage in traditional military hobbies.

    4. Re:invisibility by Chan · · Score: 1

      One possibility would be to use computer vision techniques to track the closest observers that are actually looking at your suit. The suit could then use that point of view to base its picture.

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    5. Re:invisibility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe not invisibility, but even using a small camera to load in images of local soil and flora to create a very effective cammo-pattern.

    6. Re:invisibility by Fucky+the+troll · · Score: 0

      I was thinking more along the lines of a "Film behind, show it in front. Film to the left, show it to the right" type thing, but this would probably be equally as effective - especially when being viewed / attacked from the air :)

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    7. Re:invisibility by esonik · · Score: 1

      for invisibility, what we need is a paint-on holographic display.
      anyway the proposed setup would not make completely invisible, but you would be very hard to spot.

    8. Re:invisibility by DarkZero · · Score: 2

      We wouldn't be able to run around while invisible, but wouldn't this sort of thing actually allow you to fully disappear while hiding? Instead of your eyes or leg sticking out behind the bushes, you could just completely disappear among the foliage as long as you're stationary. The same could work for any other hiding spot where you're already partially hidden. And at night, the suit could allow you to change your coloring to the correct shade of dark blue to completely blend into the shadows like a ninja.

    9. Re:invisibility by spike+hay · · Score: 2

      Actually, with Phased Array Optics (PAO), you could be completely invisible.

      I'm fuzzy on how they actually will work, but basically a phased array optics display can create a three-dimensional display with nano-scale optics projecting light in different directions.

      A phased array optic screen would look just like real life. The resolution would be equal to real life and it would look like 3-D.

      If you had a phased-array optics suit, you could be just about invisible. The only visible things would be small cameras to gather information so you can be cloaked. These could be the size of Paramecium, so they would be pretty much invisible.

      Theres a few problems with phased array optics: We need to have nanotechnology to build the optics. And to collate the optical information into a three dimensional display, a PAO screen would need more processing power than all the world's computers put together.

      Given all of this, we might see phased array optics in 30-50 years.

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    10. Re:invisibility by H310iSe · · Score: 2

      screw invisiblity (though really, really hard to see would be sweet) - howabout having whatever's on your mind on your shirt? imagine what choreographers could do w/ this, or any artist for that matter. and Graphitti - need I say more? really dope graphitti.

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  13. What about the money? by W2k · · Score: 1

    The article cunningly doesn't mention how much a fair amount (say - a bucket :) - enough to paint a wall with) would cost. If it's $50 for a square metre's worth of LCD, then fine; if it's £500, it's practically useless. I do see interesting applications for this though - like interating an LCD into your sleeve or backpack. We'll see in 6 months if this is all it's cracked up to be :)

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    1. Re:What about the money? by danro · · Score: 2

      We'll see in 6 months if this is all it's cracked up to be :)

      I saw this toted as news six months ago in a dead tree tech paper.
      I'm not holding my breath for practical application within another six months...

      It would be immensly cool though.

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    2. Re:What about the money? by burts_here · · Score: 1

      they got a few of the old lpd out now though dont they, so it will come, maybe not in 6 months though.

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    3. Re:What about the money? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      H0ly cr@p! If I could buy a metre square LCD monitor for $500 I'd be laughing.

      This really boils my p!ss. Come on this is cutting edge technology it's hardly gonna be sold at bargain basement prices as soon as it gets released.

    4. Re:What about the money? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, the nature article said it -won't- happen in the next 6 months.

  14. give it to me now by globaljustin · · Score: 1

    this has got to be one of the coolest technologies to come along recently. Imagine carrying a 'roll up' monitor along with your laptop instead of the traditional screen. T-shirts in ten years: connect by firewire to your computer and set a .jpeg file as your 'background'

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    1. Re:give it to me now by Glytch · · Score: 3, Funny

      As legal counsel for Cafe Press, I object to this blatant disregard for the rights of business owners. Your idea is obviously a circumvention device designed to destroy free-market capitalism and encourage piracy of Cafe Press' intellectual property.

    2. Re:give it to me now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, you too can have a T-shirt like those worn on The Shirt Tales!

  15. Future Advertising by Alien54 · · Score: 2
    With sdvances like this and things like electric ink, and all, I can imagine a day when all this stuff is used on product packaging in stores

    Imagine walking down a supermarket lane with your cart, with all of the cans and boxes waving at you, with their tiny voices in chorus saying "Buy Me!", "Don't listen to that brand, Buy me instead!".

    just the pressure from the kids would be enough to be insane. "Can we get this one mom?"

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  16. The New Body Paint ! by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 2



    A new application for the "paintable LCD" is to make it the new Body Paint.

    Yes, paint your whole body with that stuffs, turn on the switch, and turn off the lights, and you got a walking, dancing, talking advertising board !

    What a great boom for the ad industry, donjatink?

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    1. Re:The New Body Paint ! by HiQ · · Score: 2

      Yeah, but if nobody would be bothered to look at you, wouldn't that be considered theft??

    2. Re:The New Body Paint ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I'm sorry Cindy, but the unstated advertising contract I am compelled to abide by forces me to stare at your breasts all day while they display banner ads. I don't WANT to do this but I could get in some serious trouble with the Bureau of Advertising if I don't. See Tom over there? He has to stare at your ass."

    3. Re:The New Body Paint ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then all they would need to do is make it edible, that and waterproof.

  17. Nintendo should read this! by joel8x · · Score: 0, Troll

    They can develop an organic light emitting lcd that is flexible, yet my GBA still has no backlight!!
    Thank God for the afterburner (www.tritonlabs.com).

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    1. Re:Nintendo should read this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is this guy modded down? He makes a valid point - Nintendo has no reason to not light their GameBoy screens as proven by the Portable Monopoly project which was reported on by this very website.

      Mean People Still Suck.

  18. Club heads by Mattygfunk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    An LCD outfit would be a hit at raves and clubs. Your gear would become the ultimate glowstick. Set your clothes to change colour with the beat of the music and set up some cool visulizations and your away.

    1. Re:Club heads by burts_here · · Score: 1

      oh god, that would give you the phear when your off your face...

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  19. Another great idea we'll never see by PhysicsGenius · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    Must be a slow news day. Sure, this would be a great idea (for "media content" providers, anyway). Trouble is if you actually read the paper[1] you'll find that the paint is highly toxic to humans. So nix the clothing and wall ideas right away. And I don't think OSHA will let any workers near the stuff to apply it anywhere else even if the EPA OK'd it for a billboard-type application.

    Ho, hum, another totally useless invention.

    [1] Why do so many of the self-professed "science geeks" around here rely on Slashdot for science news rather than reading what real scientists have to say directly in magazines like Nature and Science?

    1. Re:Another great idea we'll never see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [1] Why do so many of the self-professed "science geeks" around here rely on Slashdot for science news rather than reading what real scientists have to say directly in magazines like Nature and Science?

      For the same reason that they post here.

    2. Re:Another great idea we'll never see by proj_2501 · · Score: 1

      It's not cool enough until it's safe enough to use as tattoo ink.

      A color-changing tattoo would be so nice, especially if I could switch it off so I can actually a job AND have a tattoo on my face.

      I did read that in the OMNI 1985 Guide to the Future so it MUST come true!

    3. Re:Another great idea we'll never see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL somebody mod this up!

    4. Re:Another great idea we'll never see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because a lot of us also read Science and Nature, ever think about that? Slashdot is just a nice daily supplement. I actually publish scientific articles on a regular basis, as well as read several journals. It's part of my job.

      I still enjoy slashdot

      And seeing as you are a member you obviously do too...

      Sounds like the pot is calling the kettle black.

  20. This Technology by mmThe1 · · Score: 1

    AFAI percieve it, this technology will not be used for "wearing" apps (really...apart from your sleeves, which other part of cloth are you prepared to look at repeatedly bending your neck or pulling up the cloth?)

    Instead, it can be used in various scientific/space experiments (ya...think of the possibilities....this is an excellent weight reduction appliance where we need to transfer quick information, instead of screens)

    1. Re:This Technology by ShavenYak · · Score: 2

      Better yet, think of military appilcations. Chameleon-like camouflage possiblities for troops, tanks, ships, airplanes...

      Remember the inviso suit the alien had in Predator? With this stuff, and some tiny CCD cameras, it could be nearly a reality.

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    2. Re:This Technology by Qwerpafw · · Score: 1
      (really...apart from your sleeves, which other part of cloth are you prepared to look at repeatedly bending your neck or pulling up the cloth?)
      I dunno about you, but as a guy, I spend alot of time looking at women's breasts.

      Just think: Women could 'rent' their breasts out for ad space, with larger payments for 'hotter' girls. :)
    3. Re:This Technology by Matthaeus · · Score: 1

      Or larger payments for larger surface area. This could conceivably end anorexia!

  21. Idea... by HiQ · · Score: 1

    I would probably take a life-size image from a project from a few years ago, where they turned a corpse into plastic, and photographed very thin slices of it. Just display such a slice on your LCD-suit, and totally gross people out.

    1. Re:Idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, they filled all the body cavities with blue liquid, froze the corpse, and used a deli slicer to grind off 3mm (or so) slices from head to toe. Excellent way to get a dataset for volume rendering experiments. I don't know how you'd use the individual slices, but they did segment all the images into different tissue types so you could render just muscle or something like that. (This has been done before, however, with illustrated spandex)

  22. Do you suppose... by Sapphon · · Score: 1

    Might there be a use for this as a camouflage tool? Have suits made of the stuff with various settings to blend into whatever backround is chosen.

    What about advertising: The new Nike tracksuit, sans sown on logo, but instead with scrolling LCD patch on arm with scrolling Nike advertisements (stores may even provide a discount - hell, you're a walking billboard!). Staff Uniforms at Burger King/K-Mart/etc with the latest specials/reductions displayed and constantly updated - how hard would it be to display your own images though, I wonder?

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    1. Re:Do you suppose... by prentis · · Score: 1

      most kids today are happy to pay a lot of money to become a living billbord, its an effect that companies such as nike has achived from years of branding lifestyle.

  23. LCD suit == primitive cloaking device? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the front of the suit would display stuff behind you and so on, wouldn't this make you partially invisible for others?

    1. Re:LCD suit == primitive cloaking device? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that it would be affected by the fact that they would have to be look straight at you in a particular direction, say I approach you at a 45 degree and look at your stomach, am I going to see the telephone pole directly behind you magically floating there?

  24. Awesome Possibilies! by RoC+MasterMind · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Now, it would be really cool if this stuff got cheap and bio-friendly. Meaning you could paint your entire body in it. Imagine being a chameleon! You could turn red when your mad. You could be African American today and Albino tomorrow. You could radiate shimmering rainbow colors at will. The next step would be to interface these LCD's with your brain, so you wouldn't have to mess with a controller device. Alas, too good to be true.

    1. Re:Awesome Possibilies! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Michael Jackson?

    2. Re:Awesome Possibilies! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why on Earth not? You need to get out less...

    3. Re:Awesome Possibilies! by binarytoaster · · Score: 1

      Who would *ever* willingly choose to appear as an African American if they didn't have to?

      Ah, but here we see an unintended benefit of this technology. How do you know if that person over there who looks black really is? If the person who you're talking to so nicely IS black, but he's using this paint? Suddenly skin color wouldn't matter anymore, because anyone could be anything... :)

    4. Re:Awesome Possibilies! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lots of suburban white kids

  25. Aieee by BCoates · · Score: 2

    Great, now I'm going to have nightmares about being chased down supermarket aisles by a box of Cherrios shrieking "Buyyyy Meeeee!"

  26. Imagine a ... by YeeHaW_Jelte · · Score: 1

    .. beowulf cluster, eeeuh, no, I mean, a suit of this stuff with the colour being dynamically altered to match the surroundings. You'd be practically invisible!

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  27. And here's by Sapphon · · Score: 1, Funny
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  28. Camouflage suit? by RoboOp · · Score: 2, Interesting

    At the very least, you could have a suit that would blend into the background or color scheme for a theatre of conflict.

    Modify a guille suit to have a coat of color changing needles and a soldier could be undetectable - even at very close distances.

    Now the real trick - how to have the suit be aware of its surroundings and blend into them. Octopi and other animals seem to have mastered this trick - how hard could it be? ;)

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  29. I know what I would do... by SkyLeach · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I would put small cameras in front and behind me which displayed their images on the opposite side of the suite.

    It may not be invisibility but it's damned close.

    The problem I see is: what about backlighting? LCD required backlighting to work doesn't it? If the colors (colours for you brits :-) are dense enough to reflect light realistically then perhaps that isn't a problem for some applicaitons: the invisibility application, however, presents a problem.

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    1. Re:I know what I would do... by Sarin · · Score: 2

      you could put somesort of ultraviolet reflecting stuff behind, then you could have it lit up with ultraviolet light

    2. Re:I know what I would do... by anti-snot · · Score: 1

      Well, what about people that view you from the side? Or from behind but up 10 feet? It would work wonderfully in two dimensions, but it breaks down in three, unless you actively know where your pursuer is.

    3. Re:I know what I would do... by tswinzig · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The problem I see is: what about backlighting? LCD required backlighting to work doesn't it? If the colors (colours for you brits :-) are dense enough to reflect light realistically then perhaps that isn't a problem for some applicaitons: the invisibility application, however, presents a problem.

      I read an article on eInk a while back on their full-color screens that do not emit light. In other words, you need an external light source to see the screen. Sounds like a perfect match for this technology.

      --

      "And like that ... he's gone."
    4. Re:I know what I would do... by SkyLeach · · Score: 1

      That is very true. But in most situations your observers are going to be searching for you from a limited angle of attack.

      It could be done. It would also work much better on large objects like tanks, aircraft, ships, etc...

      --
      My $0.02 will always be worth more than your â0.02, so :-p
    5. Re:I know what I would do... by Dephex+Twin · · Score: 2

      Ha, very interesting idea... I think the shape of the suit and just moving around in general would distort the image though.

      mark

      --

      If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe. -- Carl Sagan
    6. Re:I know what I would do... by clickety6 · · Score: 1
      WHy confine it to suits. Let's paint all those big ugly Walmart bricks with it, flick and switch and whammo - no more blot on the landscape!


      or somebody living in the south sea islands could make a fortune just piping the view from his window to a million LCD-painted windows in the big city!


      Or paint it on your body, project your X-ray scans etc and get an instand view into your own internals :-)

      --
      ----------------------------------- My Other Sig Is Hilarious -----------------------------------
    7. Re:I know what I would do... by hank · · Score: 1

      Only because the refresh rates of the screens and data transfer rates between the cameras and the screens probably wouldn't be fast enough. Maybe in the future. I remember reading an article about military applications like these being used on tanks. Think it was a /. story.

    8. Re:I know what I would do... by Dephex+Twin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, as far as distortion, I don't think this would solve it.

      Let's say you have an image on your front and it matches up with what's behind you. I'm looking at you from straight ahead. Now you move your right leg forward towards me. Either that distorts the image on your leg (as it is now angled), or there is some complex mechanism that can account for all body movements and provide the reverse of this distortion in order to cancel it out and make it look normal from head on.

      That's kind of tough to explain, did it make sense?

      Not to mention the fact that I would have to be looking at you from head on.

      mark

      --

      If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe. -- Carl Sagan
    9. Re:I know what I would do... by Sylver+Dragon · · Score: 1

      I would imagine that, in the end, you would just have to end up using this stuff as a better form of the current camoflogue. You would have it pre-programmed with the patternes for different environments, and it would switch depending upon what type of area you are in. i.e. as you crawl from under a bush to dirt, the suit would change color and pattern from a green, bushy color, to a brown dirt color. This would eliminate the problem of not having the right type of camoflogue on. Not to mention, that color matching could be done on the fly, to allow for better blending.
      As an avid paintballer, I see this as a wonderful replacement to my current set of BDU's. They are great when I am in a foresty environment, but if I play a game where there is more dirt/desert, I stick out pretty badly.
      As for the predator type camoflogue that keeps getting mentioned, I doubt that this stuff would work, for reasons already mentioned (angle, movement, etc.) We're gonna net to learn to bend light around an object before we get that sort of thing going.

      --
      Necessity is the mother of invention.
      Laziness is the father.
    10. Re:I know what I would do... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right. Try standing in front of a white wall. Wear a white suit. Paint your face white. Are you invisible? Noooooooooooooo.

    11. Re:I know what I would do... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The military has already been experimenting with that

  30. teletubbies! by samweber · · Score: 1

    Just think, they could do the Teletubby show live!

    1. Re:teletubbies! by burts_here · · Score: 1

      >Just think, they could do the Teletubby show live!
      what you mean theri not real?....
      *sound of shattering illusions*

      --
      Burt "Out of my mind back in 5 minutes"
    2. Re:teletubbies! by __aahlyu4518 · · Score: 1

      uh-oh

    3. Re:teletubbies! by StillaCoward · · Score: 1

      The sad thing is, I get that joke....

  31. Great... by QuantumFTL · · Score: 2

    Slim, plastic LCDs sewn into fabric could display e-mail or text messages on your sleeve.' Yeah, just what I've always wanted... now those dumb t-shirts that advertise for everything will be animated... Seriously, will this technology end up being better and brighter than organic LEDs? Just a thought... Justin

  32. Nude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you could go completely nude and paint clothes on yourself. Or you could wear clothes and make them look like your nude.

  33. Where would you put your apps? by isa-kuruption · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just a general rule, I would recommend not placing any M$ product near your anus.

    1. Re:Where would you put your apps? by jsse · · Score: 1

      Just a general rule, I would recommend not placing any M$ product near your anus.

      BSOD - Blue Shit Of Death

      Sorry couldn't resist...

    2. Re:Where would you put your apps? by Dephex+Twin · · Score: 2
      BSOD - Blue Shit Of Death

      Sorry couldn't resist...

      You should have.
      --

      If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe. -- Carl Sagan
    3. Re:Where would you put your apps? by jsse · · Score: 1

      You should have.

      I need no stinking opinion from a, ugh, Mac user!







      Just kidding. :)

    4. Re:Where would you put your apps? by Dephex+Twin · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I was just teasing you anyways. I just read it and was like "ugh!!!"

      --

      If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe. -- Carl Sagan
  34. Apps by Observer · · Score: 2
    Which leads to another problem: with an LCD-suit, where would you put which app?
    The clock, of course, would be on the left shirt/ blouse cuff.

    Acknowledgements to Larry Niven for coming up with this idea ("It's a Bulova Dali") in one of his tales of Known Space.

    1. Re:Apps by docbrown42 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Acknowledgements to Larry Niven for coming up with this idea ("It's a Bulova Dali") in one of his tales of Known Space.
      ______

      I think that's in Dream Park (which isn't part of his Known Space series). I remember Alex Griffin complaining that the clock would die if he dry-cleaned it too much.

      --
      Ed Wedig
      Graphic design services
      docbrown.net
    2. Re:Apps by Observer · · Score: 1
      I need to resort my bookshelves by author or subject (or, indeed, any scheme at all)...

      As I recall, from a short story collection titled "A Hole in Space", examining the effects on society if teleportation became a reliable and economic mode of transport. But it may have been published elsewhere and elsewhen under another title. You're right about the Known Space aspect, though, the stories were set in a recognisably moderate-future setting where Earth had colonised the Solar System and was exploring beyond but had not yet made contact with the Known Space species.

      I must admit I like Niven's work: he's an entertaining storyteller and there's enough thought put into the implications of the worlds he imagined. Unfortunately he seems to have ceased writing and his work has dropped off the SF/Fantasy shelves without trace.

      I would dearly love to possess a working "Dali", even if the cleaning bills were exorbitant.

      Now please excuse me, I have to sort my library....

  35. Tylor Durden says: by gray+code · · Score: 1
    "It must have been Tuesday. He was using his cornflower blue wall."
    • 'Homes of the future could change their wallpaper from cream to cornflower blue at the touch of a button'
    1. Re:Tylor Durden says: by Starbuck · · Score: 0

      That was the narrarator, at least in that point in the movie.

      "I didn't even wear a tie anymore" -- Narrarator

    2. Re:Tylor Durden says: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ok, but even if i had thought of that at the time, if i had said "Narrator says:" fewer people would have gotten it ;).

    3. Re:Tylor Durden says: by smart.id · · Score: 1

      Ok. First of all, it's TYLER, not TYLOR. Second, it's NARRATOR not NARRARATOR.

      --
      blog & fiction: jd87
    4. Re:Tylor Durden says: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Third, the NARRATOR AND TYLER are the SAME GUY. =p

      If yer gonna pick nits...

  36. Oh yes.... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2

    I *want* a Panther Modern suit...

  37. Not new. Imagine a roll-up screen. by crovira · · Score: 2

    Now imagine a paint-on wall-size screen.

    Imagine you had the money to pay for the research into rapid deployment of high-tech command centers to remote locations. Get the picture?

    Who needs CRTs when you have tent walls.

    The only hard part of LCDs these days is getting the line resolution and registration down to 1/100 of an inch. Its not the material. If you don't need wires 1/200th of an inch thin every 1/100th of an inch, it a LOT easier and cheaper.

    If you can weave the support and control lines into cloth and slather on the LCD goo in a controlled thickness, seal it all in clear, weather-proof plastic with good UV reactant properties, its gets a lot cheaper.

    The only hard parts are seperating pixels (weave in regularly spaced thick insulating/isolating thread,) and getting the signal to the LCD material (which requires regularly-spaced "fuzzy" knots in the metalic "signal carrier" thread.

    The technology has been around for a while.

    Anybody remember pictures of women slipping magnetic doughnuts onto wires and threading a third wire into 'em to make "core" memory?

    These are refinements and cost-cutting.

    --
    MSBPodcast.com The opinions expressed here are my own. If you don't like 'em... Think up your own stuff.
  38. Playing Darts Just Became Really Expensive by syntap · · Score: 1

    Guess I'll have to take the dart board down or else one stray may chnage the color of everything, then shatter my wall.

  39. LCD suit would be the perfect camoflauge by mister7 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There are military contractor already on this one, but they're using flat panels. A camera could capture the image behind you and project that image on the front part of your 'suit'. Doesn't need to be a sharp, perfectly aligned image either. Just get the color and intensity right. The US Army already wants this one...--> http://www.aro.army.mil/phys/Nanoscience/sec4nano. htm

  40. Fahrenheit 451? by GT_Alias · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The technique could create giant TV screens

    Holy buh-jeezus! Did anyone else read Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury?

    It was scary enough when they brought out those flat-panel plasma screens (not that I'm complaining), but now that you could paint all 4 walls w/ television screens...

    This combined with the advent of Aibo (remeber the mechanical dog in the firehouse?), seems to me Bradbury was dead on.

    1. Re:Fahrenheit 451? by gray+code · · Score: 1, Redundant

      Holy buh-jeezus! Did anyone else read Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury?

      Heh, apparently you forgot this is Slashdot...

    2. Re:Fahrenheit 451? by Peyna · · Score: 2

      In other news today, Adolf Hitler ate, drank, slept, and wore clothes so everyone is advised to stop doing so immediately. I see them as irrelevant coincidences. Anyone could have told you that TVs are going to get bigger and eventually take up entire walls. Seems like the next logical step. It doesn't mean that we're going to start burning books because of it.

      Bill Gates even has something similar to this in his house, I believe, where the walls are screens that can be changed to display whatever is wanted. Or maybe he just wanted them to be. (From The Road Ahead).

      --
      What?
    3. Re:Fahrenheit 451? by ShavenYak · · Score: 2

      Cool. We've already got the culture mostly in place - a lot of people think you're crazy if you don't spend the whole evening watching the network schlock on TV anyway. The books will start being burned as soon as the general public believes that books, not video games, incite children to violence and other 'bad' behaviors.

      Now, fellow geeks, we'd better start memorizing the books.

      --

      Hey kids, there's only 5 days left 'til Yak Shaving Day!
    4. Re:Fahrenheit 451? by giblfiz · · Score: 1

      I don't know, it seems to me that haveing a show named "freinds" is a much bigger tell. After all why would you want to spend time with/watching "family" when you could be hanging out with/watching "freinds"
      (I think at one point they even had an add for the show that went something like "spend some time with 'freinds' tonight")

    5. Re:Fahrenheit 451? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its called "The Cave" dude.

  41. Email on your sleeve? by Wrexen · · Score: 4, Funny

    Slim, plastic LCDs sewn into fabric could display e-mail or text messages on your sleeve.'

    Just great, the next MS email virus is going to spam my shirt sleeve with "--> IDIOT HERE -->" text to let everyone know I'm not using a secure email client :(

  42. I know where windows is going.... by EnVisiCrypt · · Score: 1

    ...right on my ass.

    --


    *everything* is Orwellian to cats.
    1. Re:I know where windows is going.... by fugginsuds · · Score: 1

      Why would it go on your ass? What purpose could it serve there? I see alot of these posts, but really, other than having "Windows" emblazoned on your ass or that paperclip riding its bike in and out of your A-hole, what is the point?

    2. Re:I know where windows is going.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      right.. so you got windows tattooed on your ass.. does it own it?

  43. It gets Worse! by Alien54 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Great, now I'm going to have nightmares about being chased down supermarket aisles by a box of Cherrios shrieking "Buyyyy Meeeee!"

    and it gets worse.

    Since this stuff can be embedded into fabric, obviously you can have T-shirts, etc. Obviously, You know someone will add wireless capability for continous updates, etc.

    The free car program where you get a free car because it has Advertising on it can now have cars that are updated monthly.

    The visual equivalent of pop-up ads everywhere, as you drive or walk down the street.

    Then add in your occasional prankster. Your room mate configures the back of your jacket to display pr0n as you walk down the street.

    And we call this progress. just a simple extrapolation of the spammer mentality to the use of the new media forms

    --
    "It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
    1. Re:It gets Worse! by danro · · Score: 2

      And imagine the viruses...

      One day all of america wakes up and finds their closet full of Bin Laden t-shirts.
      The president of the USA has to cut his visit to france short after having the words "F**k you frog-eaters!" suddenly appear on his tie during an important meeting.
      In China earthquakes are triggered as 1 billion people frantically try to get rid of the illegal "Free Tibet" t-shirts that suddenly are everywhere.
      And so on.
      It's the end of the world as we know it!

      And somwhere, in his parents dark basement, a 15-year old pimple-faced script-kiddie who can't get laid giggles as his revenge on society takes effect.

      --

      "First lesson," Jon said. "Stick them with the pointy end."
    2. Re:It gets Worse! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think this will start with the classic "Kick me!"

    3. Re:It gets Worse! by Denial+of+Cervix · · Score: 1

      The free car program [freecar.com] where you get a free car because it has Advertising on it can now have cars that are updated monthly.

      Scene in mall parking lot, 2005:
      "Honey, I can't find our minivan! Were we running the ad for Coke or Microsoft this week?"

      Hmmmm, this material used in prominent places, combined with the ability to be updated remotely, lends itself to some interesting hacking scenerios. "Kick me" indeed!

      DoC

    4. Re:It gets Worse! by Tardigrade · · Score: 1

      Great idea. The Car locator button on your keychain could flash your car (or parts thereof) a certain series of colors.

      No worries about keying, just paint it back yourself.

    5. Re:It gets Worse! by Loligo · · Score: 2

      >No worries about keying, just paint it back
      >yourself

      Except that now instead of keying leaving a line in the paint, it leaves a big trail of dead pixels.

      Nothing ruins the hardcore porn on your car door like a line of dead pixels right across her nipples...

      -l

  44. cubed in.... by burts_here · · Score: 1

    i can see the size of offices shrininking even more as they just paint the cubilcles with this paint and hook your net pc up to it, then take away your desk. well... could be the start of the paperless office, or not

    --
    Burt "Out of my mind back in 5 minutes"
  45. How about Tattoos? by teamhasnoi · · Score: 2
    I've never gotten one, but if I could change it at whim, I would be far more likely to.

    Embed this into skin, you could have targeted ads on your forehead. Your coworker needs a shower; your forehead displays 'Speedstick. By Mennen.'

    C'mon Madison Ave! This is needed!

    1. Re:How about Tattoos? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By Mennen

      "Huh?"

      Byyyy Mennen

      "How come?"

      -- Ellen

  46. I can't wait... by tps12 · · Score: 2

    ...to install blackbox on my pants.

    --

    Karma: Good (despite my invention of the Karma: sig)
    1. Re:I can't wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it wouldn't record much

  47. Walls by truthsearch · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've always wanted a video wall at home. That way I'm really using the available "real estate" to it's maximum capability. It would be great to have video on my cubicle walls at work. No monitor... a little to my right is my e-mail, touch the app window in front of me to bring my word processor into focus. It would be cool to have touch-support on video walls at work, along with a keyboard. Drag documents around... no more white board with smelly markers, just open a blank "window" and draw, no scanning needed to save it... have the video phone display to my left... drag a doc onto the other person's face to let them see it...

    Damn, now I'm just staring at my boring cube walls and monitor for the rest of the day. Thanks /. for building my dreams while I still have to suffer in this world! ;-)

  48. What happens during a power outage? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    will your brand sparkly wallpaper just turn black?

    1. Re:What happens during a power outage? by danamania · · Score: 1
      Mine already does that! along with the whole ROOM often turning black during a blackout :)

      Seriously, it could depend on just how the LCD is able to display colour. Would you really want a completely backlit wall? That may suit some people and work wonderfully for effects (think open sky, clouds, the moon above... while inside) but in a bright enough room, a reflective-only panel could give completely different subtle patterns.

      (disclaimer: I have no clue whatsoever if the reflective type is/will be possible with colour - but this article wasn't about LCD's now :)

  49. Ebooks? by Noobie · · Score: 0

    What about ebooks? Use this thing to create a normal looking book. And don't forget to add some touch-screens. At least kids would love this..

  50. What about durability? by parp · · Score: 1
    Let's all face it, everyone touches their screen now and then. Wallpaper and clothes also have durability issues. Sure it's nice to eliminate the weight of glass surrounding the LCD screen, but I'd be really pissed if when wiping dust or a smudge off of the screen/wall/cloth some of this LCD Paint came off too.

    I think the only practical application for this could eliminate the back side glass, but the front side glass would have to remain. This would obviously make clothing not an option. Wallpaper wouldn't really work either. Perhaps just one large wall, but then how big a sheet of glass/plexi is possible?

  51. my dream by cr@ckwhore · · Score: 2

    My dream is to have 1 large wall in my living room function as my TV and computer desktop. I can picture a super large desktop, perhaps 4000x3000, with tons of apps up and running spanning the wall in front of me! Browser over there, spreadsheet up there, mp3 player down there, and Quake3 directly in front. I guess it would kinda be like Marty's future house from Back to the Future 2.

    (Yeah its already possible with LCD projectors, but an LCD wall is much cooler!)

    --
    Skiers and Riders -- http://www.snowjournal.com
  52. More fun for hackers.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    What if you could hack somebody's suit. You could way beyond puting a "Kick Me" sign on their back, you could make it display the image of a naked body, sorta making them look like they are naked at first glance (just wait till they stand up to give their speach first hehehe) or put a scrolling marquee on their back saying anything you want. Put "Kiss it" on their butt. You could put a woman's bra size on boobs, or target circles, or "Silicon inside" or "They ARE real, and they're spectacular"

    Oh the endless possibilities.

    1. Re:More fun for hackers.... by matrix29 · · Score: 2

      What if you could hack somebody's suit. You could way beyond puting a "Kick Me" sign on their back, you could make it display the image of a naked body, sorta making them look like they are naked at first glance (just wait till they stand up to give their speach first hehehe) or put a scrolling marquee on their back saying anything you want. Put "Kiss it" on their butt. You could put a woman's bra size on boobs, or target circles, or "Silicon inside" or "They ARE real, and they're spectacular"

      Oh the endless possibilities.


      Uhmmm... isn't the purpose of a practical joke like this to embarrass the receiver?

      You've got to remember that this is the era of the "I'm with Stupid -->" T-Shirts and "Tittie Inspector" caps. These might be effective on my grandmother, but not always a parent of cousin. It certainly would scare my sisters or me. It would greatly amuse my neice and nephews. To put it bluntly, if you could imagine somebody paying $15 for a T-Shirt or $40 for pants then it wouldn't make a great practical joke. As for the "naked backside" line of clothing, have we forgotten the "naked apron" line of wear?

      --
      "Face it, a nation that maintains a 72% approval rating on George W. Bush is a nation with a very loose grip on reality.
  53. Where's the backlight? by scott_currie · · Score: 2

    I'm sure they are working on something for this, but most LCDs do not primarily work by reflection, they work by filtering out the parts of white light that you don't want in the image. So, how do you backlight cloth? or a little rollup screen?

    Has anyone has seen the iPaq without the backlight on (which is by far the best non-backlit LCD I've seen)? It is still unusable in non-office lighting conditions. And that is a best case scenario.

  54. A Dream by DickBreath · · Score: 2

    I had a dream last year that this article loosely relates to.

    Not only does some type of display technology become printable, but so do the circuits. (I think I had this dream soon after the /. article about some kind of printable display from IBM.)

    In short, it becomes possible to "print" an entire PDA onto your wrist. Sort of like a tatoo wristwatch. In fact, in the dream, they become so useful that everyone must have one. The printable display can even fashion various barcodes on the display briefly for scanning.

    Only problem is that the PDA wears off after about a month and you've got to get another one printed on. They are fairly cheap to re-print each month. About $30 or so. But some people cannot afford this.

    For those who can't afford one, corporate sponsorship can be obtained. As payment for a basic PDA on your wrist, you let them print a color animated advertising banner onto your forehead.

    --

    I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
    1. Re:A Dream by Cybercifrado · · Score: 1

      Wow...that sounds suspiciously like the "Mark of the Beast" mentioned in certain popular texts. (hey...SOMEONE had to bring it up)

  55. Applications by proverbialcow · · Score: 1
    Which leads to another problem: with an LCD-suit, where would you put which app?

    I would put "whereis" on my codpiece, because not many females seem to know where to find it.
    I'd like to think it's because they're just not looking, but it's been long enough that I'm ready to accept the worst.

    --
    The only surefire protection against Microsoft infections is abstinence. - The Onion
    1. Re:Applications by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Leads to interesting possibilities for "finger" and "gopher"......

  56. clear walls! by YouAreFatMan · · Score: 2

    You could paint all the walls, then use cameras to display on the wall what you would see if the wall wasn't there -- it would give the effect of having see-through walls (one-way).

    --
    Robotiq.com is heavily tested on animals
    1. Re:clear walls! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is a very cool idea.

    2. Re:clear walls! by Dexx · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hm.. there's a business opportunity here. Place cameras around the world and then deliver the feed using a high-speed connection. Subscription service, of course. That way, you could look out your 'window' and see a beautiful mountain scene. Or a market in Thailand, whatever cranks your turn.

      --
      Feel the fear and do it anyway.
    3. Re:clear walls! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If this was a subscription service, you would lose the effect when the new Nike ad superimposed itself over the Eiffel Tower.

    4. Re:clear walls! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Or a market in Thailand, whatever cranks your turn.

      Patpong market anyone?

    5. Re:clear walls! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If my walls were gone, why, id see my neighbours apartment. Oh joy. Now i just have to break into their apartments and place hidden cameras.
      Wait, i already did that.

    6. Re:clear walls! by Dexx · · Score: 1

      By subscription, I meant 'pay $X/month' for it where X > my current monthly paycheque. No ads needed, unless you wanted a cheap version for the masses..

      --
      Feel the fear and do it anyway.
  57. Always wanted a programmable globe by Tri0de · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Tried to design one a few years ago, but this might make it possible. Imagine a globe that could be updated via the web or disc, could illustrate the route of a voyabe or flight paths or tectonic drift, or weather, satellite orbits....

    --
    "Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts."
  58. Colossal Jump for GenderIssues by fazil · · Score: 1


    Now Transvestites can look like the opposite sex without surgery! What will they think of NEXT? Today truely is a leap for mankind, Man can finally be a part of the Brag of the Female SubGenius!

    Paste On Genitalia.. who would have thought?!?

    --
    -=-Ze End-=-
  59. Houses. by hagardtroll · · Score: 1

    If you could put a roof on your house with this material, it could be used to improve energy efficiency. Clear - like a giant skylight turning your house into a greenhouse. White/reflective in the summer to reflect the sunlight off of your house. Black, to absorb the heat, but keep the interior dark.

    1. Re:Houses. by prentis · · Score: 1

      i think the solar cells of today would be much more efficent, now imagne what paint solar cells would do to the energy crisis.

    2. Re:Houses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually you would also want white during the winter. The color better transmits(right word?) tempeture both ways. So a white roof would keep the cold out and the warmth in.

    3. Re:Houses. by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      Wasn't there something about paint a while back? Obvisoulsy we already have materials that can color based on heat or sunlight, but there was something about perfecting a heavy duty house paint to do that - light in the summer, dark in the winter...

      --
      Stupid sexy Flanders.
  60. Elfen cloak or mood ring? by HighTeckRedNeck · · Score: 1

    How about a grid of paint on solar cells to power it alternated with three color lcd photopours and programmable Artificial Life processors in a spatial "Beowulf cluster". And just for fun 3-D stereograms.

  61. Cool... by Java+Pimp · · Score: 1

    ...Now I can hack a "Kick Me" pop-up ad on my friends back and do away with this nasty paper and tape!

    --
    Ascalante: Your bride is over 3,000 years old.
    Kull: She told me she was 19!
  62. wearable e-mail by waldeaux · · Score: 3, Funny
    Which leads to another problem: with an LCD-suit, where would you put which app?"

    Well, I know where the e-mail SPAM would appear... :-)

    1. Re:wearable e-mail by j1mmy · · Score: 1

      where?

  63. Re:Not new. Imagine a roll-up screen. by Drachemorder · · Score: 5, Funny
    Now imagine a paint-on wall-size screen.

    "I told you never to call me on this wall! This is an unlisted wall!"

  64. LCD body paint as makeup by waldeaux · · Score: 2
    One possibilty would be to use it to change your appearence... Aha! I am the master of disguise! It'd be cool to show up at work naked but projecting a three-piece suit. Or as a leopard. Or as the CEO. :-)

    "I'll be staying on Mars, two weeks... two weeks... two weeks..."

    1. Re:LCD body paint as makeup by blinx_ · · Score: 1

      or.. with the help of a rig of cameras that film the surroundings and feed the input to the suit - become invisible! ahh.. soon there'll need to be heat sensors in girls lockerrooms :)

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      Resistance is not futile - www.gnu.org
    2. Re:LCD body paint as makeup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      It'd be cool to show up at work naked but projecting a three-piece suit.

      That's fine until they get closer and notice the navy-pinstripe cock 'n balls dangling from your "suit".

  65. Also at newscientist by Pope+Raymond+Lama · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here.

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  66. still waiting for "electronic ink" by peter303 · · Score: 2

    There was a big hoopla about Electronic Ink developed at MIT about five years ago. Outside of an occasional demo at a trade show, I haven't seen much use of this product.

    Whats the difference techincally and commercially between this new product and e-ink?

  67. You'd know where to look for boot messages... by Anonymous+Bullard · · Score: 1

    Dontcha?

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    Should invading one's peaceful neighbours be opposed, or rewarded with trade deals?

  68. Finally by Joel+Ironstone · · Score: 0, Troll

    Now all those serial killers in the movies who are making suits out of women's skin can just press a button.

  69. Voodoolights.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From an architectural standpoint, this kind of an innovation is rather exciting. Quite a lot of research has been going into office space customization and such things, and one of the big pieces that they haven't been able to tackle is that even in an extremely modular office system (read cubicles or similar) the colors and materials are, frankly, not changeable. So if you're stuck next to a dark wall, you're screwed. If you can alter the patterns and colors of your cube, all that becomes a user customization issue, and with a little work (and a lot of vRAM) people will be able to display anything from daisies to VoodooLights. *Now* imagine piping your xmms/winamp display into the walls of your room/cube. Or any screensaver for that matter... yay smurfs!

  70. Wearable LCD by thud2000 · · Score: 1

    The idea of wearable LCD fabric sounds really extremely cool at first - but how would you do laundry? Dry-clean only, I guess?

  71. Imagin the possibilities... by Wiseazz · · Score: 1

    ... For the porn industry!

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    My sig sucks.
  72. Illustrated Man by stinkydog · · Score: 2

    All of these Bradbury allusions got me thinking.

    Combine the suit(or the bodypaint version), a very fast wireless connection, solar power, a P2P app and no off switch and you get the Illustrated man.

    Hook him into a survilence network and watch the fun.

    SD

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    âoeWho knew something as harmless as willful ignorance could end up having real consequences?â
  73. Re:What happens during a power outage? CLOTHES! by Myriad · · Score: 2
    will your brand sparkly wallpaper just turn black?

    I'd be slighly more concerned with my pants suddenly turning transparent...

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    "They do not preach that their god will rouse them, a little before the Nuts work loose." Kipling, 'The Sons of Martha'
  74. Not going to work by samael · · Score: 2

    What happens when people look at you from a 60 degree angle? They see a smeared version of the straight on image. So, unless you stay face on to all the enemy, all the time, you're going to be visible.

    1. Re:Not going to work by CaseyB · · Score: 2
      It needn't be an "invisibility" suit that reproduces the exact scene behind the wearer relative to the viewer, but rather "adaptive camoflage" that changes according to surroundings. A regular camo suit doesn't have a lifelike tree painted on it after all, merely a mess of forest-colors that generally blend into forest surroundings.

      It would be enough to sample the scene around the user, and reproduce some perturbation of the image or image colours on the whole suit. If you wanted to be fancy, you could divide the suit into, say, 4 quadrants, and reproduce the sampled colours onto the opposite quadrant of the suit so you get more effective blending from viewers all around the subject.

    2. Re:Not going to work by samael · · Score: 2

      Oh, definitely. Adaptive camouflage would be fantastic. I'd be very interested in seeing results on what patterns work best in real life situations.

    3. Re:Not going to work by Loligo · · Score: 2

      >A regular camo suit doesn't have a lifelike tree
      >painted on it after all, merely a mess of forest-
      >colors that generally blend into forest
      >surroundings.

      Technically, camo doesn't "blend into forest surroundings", it only breaks up the human outline that's so immediately recognizable.
      Ever notice that military camo doesn't work *at all* if the person wearing it is moving?

      -l

  75. Finally... by j-turkey · · Score: 1

    I can get the video-wall like in Total Recall.


    -Turkey

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    -Turkey

  76. Laptop Screens? by Fig,+formerly+A.C. · · Score: 1

    "The technique should feed people's thirst for smaller, cheaper gadgets. Conventional glass LCDs now make up an increasing part of a laptop's weight - plastic versions could change that"... I think I'd rather have a heavier, clearer display than a lighter but fuzzy one. This technology will have to be better than conventional LCD's before it is adopted in a laptop.

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    Murphy was an optimist.
  77. Touch by ManicGiraffe · · Score: 1

    Which leads to another problem: with an LCD-suit, where would you put which app?

    Errr...wonder where you'd put "touch"?

  78. VR by CmdrChillupa · · Score: 1

    Has anyone thought of the VR that could be built with this. Sounds like you could change any room in your house into a holodeck if you have this LCD paint.

  79. Be ready for disasters. by red_gnom · · Score: 1
    "Slim, plastic LCDs sewn into fabric could display e-mail or text messages on your sleeve."

    Oh my Good! How Microsoft is going to deal with crushing pants? What, another patch in my new Armani suit?

  80. One Step closer to my Dream Car. by tboulay · · Score: 2, Funny

    This would be soooo cool.. punching in an RGB code and changing the color of your car.. I don't think cops would like it too much.. "I'm pulling over a red.. no black.. no green.. no blue, mustang.. "

  81. Boy... by $0+31337 · · Score: 0

    Popup ads sure would suck... Man, your walking down the street wearing your LCD suit and then because of an email you recieve, ads suddenly start popping up all over your body... pr0n on your ass and viagra ads on your crotch!

  82. Paintable OLEDs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Much of the research on 'painting' displays onto flexible substrates are about Organic LEDs (OLEDs) rather than LCDs. The AP article mentions this and shows a picture. The thing about OLEDs is that they generate light and so don't need a backlight. And once the technology matures, they will actually cost about half of an LCD/backlight while using less power. One thing they are trying to do before getting into the market bigtime is giving them a longer life. Meanwhile, we'll be seeing them in things like cell phones where the display isn't lit all the time. Motorola has a couple on the market. Sony and Samsung have already shown 13 and 15 inch full color displays.

    Some of these OLEDs can be 'painted' on by a simple inkjet process. Manufactuers could use a continuous process to make the stuff in long rolls like wallpaper and just cut it to size. You need some kind of substrate in order to address each pixel, but the substrate can be a very thin, very flexible plastic. Not only does this make the whole display paper-thin, but you could roll up a relatively big display like a windowshade! If you've seen "Earth: Final Conflict" you've probably seen their communicator which is like a pen, but you pull out a video screen from the side of it. This technology could make such a gadget. Also, things like the datapad seen on "Star Trek: TNG," a thing like a thin notepad they pass around, but which has a video pad and touch display. And of course you could paste it on a tablet computer, or a wall.

  83. OLED Paint? by malachid69 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    OLED (Organic LED) would be much better. LED requires battery power to maintain the refresh, while OLED only requires battery power to delta the image. OLEDs are currently in manufacturing (some Pioneer stereos and JCPenny signs). They are cheaper to produce, and more usable.

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  84. Cheap crap! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Homes of the future could change their wallpaper from cream to cornflower blue at the touch of a button"

    Given the shoddy quality control of current laptop screens, perhaps a warning be given to only select impressionist or pointilist backdrops, so all the missing pixels dont stand out too much!

  85. Running naked under your predator suit ... cute ;) by martial · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Makes me think that people (I am sure the military have that in mind already) will use it to try to create the "predator" suit ... which shows to your eyes the surrounding view ... may be rather interesting ...

    Of course since it will have to be skin tight to work efficiently that means running naked under that transparent film ... better make sure to have enough batteries on hand (which makes you wonder where to hide it now) ;)

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    -- Martial MICHEL
  86. Which leads to the inevitable question... by Smilodon · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... Does this outfit make my App look big?

  87. Light of Other Days by Genady · · Score: 2

    Have none of you read "The Light of Other Days"? by Clarke (Yes that Clarke) and Baxter? They have these things all over the place. Roll it up take it with you, browse from anywhere. And yes they even have the 'smart shrouds' you're talking about. Check it out it's only $6 on Amazon.

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    What if it is just turtles all the way down?
  88. Obvious first application: by siegesama · · Score: 2

    Bumper Stickers! Set it up with a depth-measurement tool and have your back bumper switch from "My child is a Superkid" to "Back Off, Ass-hole!" whenever someone gets a little too close. Clever sayings from banner ads! Hippy, swirly colorful things!

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    what the hell is a 'junk character', anyway?
  89. Gibson by rpjimmypop · · Score: 1

    The LCD suit reminds me of the technology Gibson describes one of the teenage dissidents wearing in Neuromancer. The kid keeps projecting art and disturbing images on himself. Now that would be cool.

  90. Sweet! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whenever I get pissed at someone, I just turn on my goatse.cx underwear, drop my pants and bend over.

  91. Re:Not new. Imagine a roll-up screen. by Dr.+Scott · · Score: 1
    Imagine you had the money to pay for the research into rapid deployment of high-tech command centers to remote locations. Get the picture? Who needs CRTs when you have tent walls.

    That's right on the money. I've been an observer at a field artillery staff exercise. Some of their work is automated, but a great deal of it is not. What do they use for information display? Post-It tape flags on a big map, each carefully annotated by hand. What do they use for information exchange? You walk over to the S-2's tent and look at his map for a while. Very, very low-tech. But it gets the job done.

    What do they need instead? A big, flat, high-resolution display that you can hang on the tent wall -- and that you can roll up, toss in the back of the truck with all the other shit when it's time to move (maybe in a big hurry), and expect it to work later. The rest of the hardware and software is easy by comparison.

  92. holodecks around the corner? by flogger · · Score: 1

    Wow, what an idea this is! I made the trip up to "The cave" a while back. Imagine what a whole room of LCD walls would be like. I've told my wife before that I want a game room. Now I really want a GAME ROOM.

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  93. Laundry? by Hydro-X · · Score: 1

    A few other posters have asked about how to wash a LCD suit. I was reminded of something I saw on TechTV the other day. They build a liquid cooled machine with the moderating liquid poured directly onto the CPU. Turns out this liquid is totally inert. If I remember correctly, it was Chlorofluoroether, but I'm not sure. Anyway, it's sold by 3M mainly to cool supercomputers. Drawbacks are it evaporates insanely quickly (as is to be expected with an ether), and it costs a few hundred dollars a jug. Now all that's left is to find a non-volatile soap to break up the dirt and whatnot so it can be carried away by the ether. And of course a device to filter the ether. And the fact that all this has to be done in a totally closed system to avoid extravagant laundry bills. On the up side, drying time is greatly decreased..

  94. Cool Idea - by wirefarm · · Score: 2

    Except you'd keep getting hacked by people from countries with border disputes -

    Seriously, though, I once saw a spherical jigsaw puzzle globe from a company that would send you updated pieces when borders changed.

    You've motivated me to go and see what the latest Xearth programs are like - RedHat used to include it years ago and it was a cool program - lots of configurable options beyond the defaults. I wonder if it's been updated with those great satellite images I saw here a month or so ago...

    Off to google...
    Jim in Tokyo

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  95. Blast! by LastToKnow · · Score: 2, Funny

    I caught some virus that changed my suit to plaid, and it won't let me change it back!

  96. 3d screens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you could paint a flexible piece of plastic with this you could make a dome shaped screen, like at the planetarium, or a cube shaped, or a digital crystal-ball.

    Not sure if this is useful for anything ( a globe maybe?) but it sure is cool.

    Ooh, terra-form maps! that would be useful.

    piece!

  97. Holodeck....!!! by JayKey · · Score: 1

    Sorry, just saw the Star Trek movie "Insurrection" last night...

  98. What I want to know is.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What happens when people project front and back nude images? Would they get arrested for public nudity? What happens when your significant other projects front and back images of your favorite film star / hottie? Would they get mad at you for even asking? Heck I can see a whole cottage industry springing up around this technology.

    BTW - Samsungs 21.3" LCD Monitor mentioned in one of yesterdays post supposedly has a 170 deg viewing angle. Coupled with the wrap around effect of cloth this could actually be very doable. I only wonder how many cameras at different angles would be required.

  99. that's not so impressive..... by trixiehotbottom · · Score: 1

    now, a giant multi coloured etch-a-sketch would be impressive...not only can you change the colour...but you can make big squiggly lines too. maybe there's a solution for those people that still use white out on their monitors....

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  100. Rats shall work for pleasure (a sort of Nirvana) by chanio · · Score: 0
    Rats shall work for pleasure (not apes,of course!) and they shall rule the earth...

    The end is coming soon (I think)...

    Now it seems that pleasure can justify slavery, at least, in cases of extreme danger: like a bomb...

    Thank's god that I am not a rat, or a pig, or an ape!:) :) :) Am I?

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    Rwe obliged 2 save our future by choosing:O3 hole-greenhouse effect instead of accepting everydays gossip-nonsense chat?
  101. Better yet... by babymac · · Score: 1
    Carry around a small camera that captures images of your surroundings and updates the suit accordingly. It'd be the closest thing possible to real invisibility! Of course, infrared wouldn't be fooled...

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    "War makes me sad." - Me
    1. Re:Better yet... by spike+hay · · Score: 1

      It'd be the closest thing possible to real invisibility! Of course, infrared wouldn't be fooled...

      It wouldn't look very convincing. It's not a 3-d display. I refer you to my earlier post about Phased Array Optics for a better way to become invisible.

      But then again, if you blend in with the background, people might see somthing, but your shimmering image could just be ignored with the "I need to lay off the crack" factor. So you may be able to sneak into the girl's locker room after all.

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      If you don't understand any of my sayings, come to me in private and I shall take you in my German mouth.
  102. Where to put the apps... by Attila · · Score: 1

    I'll have Windows by the balls, for a change.

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    Dear Will, the plums were poisoned. -- Cheese Club
  103. xplanet rocks! by isaac · · Score: 3, Informative

    Be sure to check out xplanet (xplanet.sourceforge.net) - it is basically XEarth++, and it is awesome. Works in *nix and windoze, and with simple scripts it will download near-live satellite cloud imagery (updated every ~6 hrs, I think) for rendering the earth. It also supports loading and displaying weather data from the net (like XEarth displays city names), which in combination with the live clouds makes for a fun way to get an intuitive grasp of weather and weather forecasting by watching the whole world over time.

    Slick stuff.

    -Isaac

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    I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice. For Entertainment Purposes Only.
  104. EULA's for my clothes? I think not. by tchdab1 · · Score: 1

    I don't want to have to touch the "I accept" section of my sleeve before putting on my shirt, or be forced to wear the corporate logo on my back because moving or deleting it violates my clothing user agreement. And no more hand-me-downs! The clothes would be licensed for one person only - give it away and the new owner pays again to wear it.
    Nightmare.

  105. Re:invisibility wont work because of.... by Denial+of+Cervix · · Score: 1

    ...Shadows.

    While you theoretically could camouflage yourself, light being blocked by you would still register on objects around you.

    Unless there were thousands of miniature lights along with thousands of cameras and millions of pixels. Nah.

    DoC

  106. Hack somebody else's suit, not your own n/t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    k?

  107. Total Recall and LCDs by Dphile · · Score: 1

    This story reminds me of the scene in the movie Total Recall with the secretary. She's at her desk in the Total Recall office and she it painting her nails by tapping on a color palette and then tapping on her fingernail with a stylus. I am glad that it reminds me of that scene and not the one where they cut off the air supply (good band!) on Mars. That part of the movie was just depressing.

  108. Paintable LCD's and Blonde Jokes by Ilan+Volow · · Score: 3, Funny

    Blond joke

    Q: How do you tell if a blonde is using a computer:
    A: There's white-out on the screen

    Geek joke

    Q:How do you tell if a geek is writing on a piece of paper.
    A:There's screen on his white-out.

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    Ergonomica Auctorita Illico!
  109. Where was this two years ago? by delcielo · · Score: 2

    I painted the baby room 7 goddam times to get the right shade of yellow.

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    Hot Damn! It's the Soggy Bottom Boys!
    1. Re:Where was this two years ago? by korgull · · Score: 1

      You better should have changed the lighting in your room to cover up your mistakes :-)

  110. Schools... by Suicide · · Score: 1

    Everyone seems to be talking about the obvious ads, rave visualizations, and blending into the wall, but what about schools?

    If I could have my shirt sleeve display calculus equations, or biology terms, or whatever else I needed, college would have been so much easier. And if it could be turned off and on at will, then how would they ever be able to detect cheating like this? I mean, its kind of obvious when I pull out a palm in the middle of a test, that something is going on, but who's going to think anything if I look at my sleeve?

    1. Re:Schools... by kcelery · · Score: 1
      As you might remember there is a kind of thermo-sensitive LCD, the one that is used in aquarium to show the temperature. You can create a computer display by beaming an invisble (say infra Red laser) to heat up a spot on the fabric in making a color change. Use this material and weave into fabric for your shirt sleeve. Now what you need is a wearable computer equiped with optical fibre to beam the output display to the thermo-sensitive fabric. The hard part is to make a device to strobe the invisible light beam onto the fabric to create a display. Such device could be hidden within your pair of glasses. Two piezo device is used to control a tiny mirror of size 0.5 mm X 0.5mm so it could be diffracting the light beam in the x-y axis. When everything is hooked up and debugged. You have a miniature Laser display on your sleeve. Not to forget to put a "mission impossible" style self-destruction mode in case you are caught, it should wipe out the Bessel function, Langrange multiplier ..etc.

      Now for the interface. Leaving one underneath the desk is stupid. Hide an oversized up-down-left-right keypad on the upper size of your soft running shoes is a way. Which is operated by the toe on the other foot.

      But of course, in real life, the toughest exams are usually open-book exams.

  111. Number of the Beast? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or we could see people forced to wear this, as "foretold" in Revelations 15-17:

    [15]And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
    [16] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
    [17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

  112. Marketing Opportunity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stuffit Expander sold with extra-large LCD-painted condoms.