FYI ass, I watch TV. I like TV. I've got a three room dish dvr system at home that I use like hell. I just don't like fucking commercials - and the only time I have to watch them is when I'm somewhere where TV does not belong (like the places I listed). The last thing I want is all my sales guy out there with their laptops watching tv all day on my dime.
The only thing funny about your comment is pure iqnorance displayed by leaping to conclusions.
...come on man, there will be sound cards that record under Longhorn......there would be a crack to disable deleteing mp3 files months before Longhorn started shipping......and if I can't get the FBI to give a shit about actual network intrusions when I have logs to prove it, or mail fraud committed by eBay sellers when I have 10 other fraud victims, I seriously doubt the FBI is going to give a shit about automated notifications from Microsoft that someone was trying to compress an MP3.
But I agree with you on the "trusted computing" bit - I just don't fall for the spin / marketing / scare tactics of the the newest wiz bang copy protection scams.
from your previous reply: "Bottom line, for this to be somewhat effective it would require support at the hardware level."
There is no support on the hardware level for the existing CD format. Bottom line, the available media is not watermark sensitive in existing hardware.
RTFA - Secure Audio Path only works within the computer. I pop the CD in my existing portable cd player (which doesn't have Secure Audio Path hardware... and to be a CD it will have to be backwards compatible with portables) - then jack the portable into the sound in on my sound card. Any recording software can capture the wav file from a portable. The quality even after compressing to MP3 is still good enough for me. This won't change anything.
...and you loose quality when going to MP3 anyway - which I can't hear - regardless of wheather the source was a digital sound board recording or a clear FM station. Average MP3 quality is good enough for me. I'm not an audiophile - I prefer flexibility.
I'm OK with loosing a little quality - that process still sounds better than a Rhapsody stream. Well - I say it sounds better. I honestly can't hear the difference from listening to a CD and listening to a clear FM station.
...which wouldn't be backwards compatible. If I can't buy a CD and play it in my existing cd players than I'm not buying the CD. My guess is the same goes for most other people (at least the ones that still actually buy CDs).
My experience was different. Maybe its a function of post-IPO Google. Maybe its a function of how desperate the HR representative is to fill those positions in a particular city.
I asked these questions bluntly and got the this-is-the-only-way-to-get-your-foot-in-the-door- and-you-will-get-hired-on-and-can-enter-our-mentor -program-to-climb-the-sys-admin-ladder-crap. Note: I'm already a sys admin for the last 8 yrs, they contacted me two days after the IP0, and the Google HR rep did not disclose that the position would be entry-level-contract (a major step back for me) until the day of the interview. I google searched for her name and contact number and found blog entries from others that had accepted these contract positions. I then emailed several of them asking for the inside scoop - el admino to el admino. The replies I got made it clear what was going on. I lost a lot of respect for Google.
and fyi - even though corporate Google doesn't drug test and has tons of perks (for those in Mt. View California) - the "contract positions" their baiting people with in a lot of major cities come with NO perks and pay through payroll.com (which requires a drug test). Google is going the way of Mindspring-turn-Earthlink. Its sad.
Google sucks ass anyway (not the search engine, working for the company). If you don't want to move to Mt. View California about the only jobs available at their data centers all over America are hardware managers (ooh - order replacement ide drives...) and data center techs. Google is screwing the hell out the data center techs, luring people into quitting stable jobs for a chance to get in the door at Google - using "contract positions" to build the data centers while leading people into thinking they'll get hired on and can climb their ladder to a sys admin position. If you don't believe, me do a quick monster.com search. Guess what happens when the data centers are built and the techies contracts are up... "Don't do evil" my ass.
Comics don't have to be funny - hell - I don't think its funny. My point (spelled out for the dubmasses) was that people read UF because they can identify with it.
Same reason people read Dilbert - or any of the sunday comics - once you identify with a comic your more likely to follow the story line.
As to the assholes who modded me down as a Troll and up'd the Troll fucker that started this thread bashing UF... I can't help it my slashdot id is a whole lot lower that yours (and my dicks bigger to). Wannabel33tFuckers.
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I can answer that one...
Because if you've ever worked at an ISP you "get it" which apparently you "don't" so "fuck off" troll.
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Its marketing. industry - we're stuck with them. UNLIMITED and DEDICATED. There is a difference - in both price and service. If you want DEDICATED, pay for it. If you want to get off cheap - use unlimited as dedicated, just don't bitch when your ISP calls you on it and asks you to upgrade or caps your hourly limit to draw a line between dedicated and ISPs use two terms commonly - throughout the unlimited customers.
FYI - dial-up isp's are mostly resellers now. You buy a block of v.92 services from Level 3 (etc...) and resell them. Much more profitable than buying your own PRI and T1 and managing your own servers. But you're stuck with whatever lines your access vendor draws between Unlimited access and Dedicated access. Level 3 says its 200 hours, Quest says 150, others vary but most come in around 200 hours a month.
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WTF did this asshole Troll get modded up for?
FYI ass, I watch TV. I like TV. I've got a three room dish dvr system at home that I use like hell. I just don't like fucking commercials - and the only time I have to watch them is when I'm somewhere where TV does not belong (like the places I listed). The last thing I want is all my sales guy out there with their laptops watching tv all day on my dime.
The only thing funny about your comment is pure iqnorance displayed by leaping to conclusions.
"Ever wanted to watch TV on your notebook computer?"
No. I get too much tv shoved in my face in restraunts, coffee houses, gas stations, and walking down the sidewalk as it is.
I admin several email servers for an ISP - there has been no decrease in spam.
...come on man, there will be sound cards that record under Longhorn... ...there would be a crack to disable deleteing mp3 files months before Longhorn started shipping... ...and if I can't get the FBI to give a shit about actual network intrusions when I have logs to prove it, or mail fraud committed by eBay sellers when I have 10 other fraud victims, I seriously doubt the FBI is going to give a shit about automated notifications from Microsoft that someone was trying to compress an MP3.
But I agree with you on the "trusted computing" bit - I just don't fall for the spin / marketing / scare tactics of the the newest wiz bang copy protection scams.
from your previous reply:
"Bottom line, for this to be somewhat effective it would require support at the hardware level."
There is no support on the hardware level for the existing CD format. Bottom line, the available media is not watermark sensitive in existing hardware.
OK fuckwit, google backwards compatible and try and formulate a solid argument
RTFA - Secure Audio Path only works within the computer. I pop the CD in my existing portable cd player (which doesn't have Secure Audio Path hardware... and to be a CD it will have to be backwards compatible with portables) - then jack the portable into the sound in on my sound card. Any recording software can capture the wav file from a portable. The quality even after compressing to MP3 is still good enough for me. This won't change anything.
...and you loose quality when going to MP3 anyway - which I can't hear - regardless of wheather the source was a digital sound board recording or a clear FM station. Average MP3 quality is good enough for me. I'm not an audiophile - I prefer flexibility.
I'm OK with loosing a little quality - that process still sounds better than a Rhapsody stream. Well - I say it sounds better. I honestly can't hear the difference from listening to a CD and listening to a clear FM station.
bullshit - if my speaker can play it, I can record it.
...which wouldn't be backwards compatible. If I can't buy a CD and play it in my existing cd players than I'm not buying the CD. My guess is the same goes for most other people (at least the ones that still actually buy CDs).
...and how is this going to stop me from jacking the sound out to the sound in on my sound card, recording a wav file, then compressing it to mp3?
My experience was different.
- and-you-will-get-hired-on-and-can-enter-our-mentor -program-to-climb-the-sys-admin-ladder-crap. Note: I'm already a sys admin for the last 8 yrs, they contacted me two days after the IP0, and the Google HR rep did not disclose that the position would be entry-level-contract (a major step back for me) until the day of the interview. I google searched for her name and contact number and found blog entries from others that had accepted these contract positions. I then emailed several of them asking for the inside scoop - el admino to el admino. The replies I got made it clear what was going on. I lost a lot of respect for Google.
Maybe its a function of post-IPO Google.
Maybe its a function of how desperate the HR representative is to fill those positions in a particular city.
I asked these questions bluntly and got the this-is-the-only-way-to-get-your-foot-in-the-door
correction - its payrolling.com not payroll.com - oops
and fyi - even though corporate Google doesn't drug test and has tons of perks (for those in Mt. View California) - the "contract positions" their baiting people with in a lot of major cities come with NO perks and pay through payroll.com (which requires a drug test). Google is going the way of Mindspring-turn-Earthlink. Its sad.
Google sucks ass anyway (not the search engine, working for the company). If you don't want to move to Mt. View California about the only jobs available at their data centers all over America are hardware managers (ooh - order replacement ide drives...) and data center techs. Google is screwing the hell out the data center techs, luring people into quitting stable jobs for a chance to get in the door at Google - using "contract positions" to build the data centers while leading people into thinking they'll get hired on and can climb their ladder to a sys admin position. If you don't believe, me do a quick monster.com search. Guess what happens when the data centers are built and the techies contracts are up... "Don't do evil" my ass.
Comics don't have to be funny - hell - I don't think its funny. My point (spelled out for the dubmasses) was that people read UF because they can identify with it.
Same reason people read Dilbert - or any of the sunday comics - once you identify with a comic your more likely to follow the story line.
As to the assholes who modded me down as a Troll and up'd the Troll fucker that started this thread bashing UF... I can't help it my slashdot id is a whole lot lower that yours (and my dicks bigger to). Wannabel33tFuckers.
I can answer that one...
Because if you've ever worked at an ISP you "get it" which apparently you "don't" so "fuck off" troll.
Beavis and Butthead.
That's who.
hay(na)ku!
wow - don't usually fit into stereotypes...
But OpenBSD loving security freak dead head I am.
SO
Its marketing.
industry - we're stuck with them. UNLIMITED and DEDICATED. There is a difference - in both price and service. If you want DEDICATED, pay for it. If you want to get off cheap - use unlimited as dedicated, just don't bitch when your ISP calls you on it and asks you to upgrade or caps your hourly limit to draw a line between dedicated and
ISPs use two terms commonly - throughout the unlimited customers.
FYI - dial-up isp's are mostly resellers now. You buy a block of v.92 services from Level 3 (etc...) and resell them. Much more profitable than buying your own PRI and T1 and managing your own servers. But you're stuck with whatever lines your access vendor draws between Unlimited access and Dedicated access. Level 3 says its 200 hours, Quest says 150, others vary but most come in around 200 hours a month.
Ooooh - let the bitching begin - they focused on plot this time....
Yes we still need ISPs - without mine, I wouldn't have a job right now (ISP admin for 6+ years) !!
I've used it a lot over the last few months - found out about it on the original free streaming website Sugarmegs.org