In Who Killed The Electric Car? (why, btw, is not a Michale Moore documentary, nor is it particularly political), the only group that blame was not assigned to was the battery industry. The producers found plenty of blame to go around with pretty well everyone else you can imagine. If Musk were to switch Tesla to making only batteries, the industry could fall out from underneath him - and then he would have nobody to sell his batteries to.
That is only true until Microsoft changes the UI for access completely again and then nobody can use it.
The old version continues to work indefinitely.
I don't know where you get your Microsoft software from, but I have never seen a Microsoft application that can "work indefinitely". The last program they had that was anything vaguely close to that was called MS-DOS. Anything else will eventually fail over time.
The user has to actually choose to buy the new version, and should understand any changes that will come with it.
You can't keep an old system running forever. Eventually the system itself will need an OS update in order to be patched for the current world, and at some point you'll have an OS that won't run your version of Access. Then what do you do?
There are plenty of real problems in the world. No need to make up imaginary ones.
There is nothing imaginary about applications that don't run on newer operating systems. There is nothing imaginary about the idiotic changes that Microsoft forces down the throats of their users. There is nothing imaginary about the fact that nothing runs forever.
Just bite the bullet and get Access. Everyone can use it. Training is fairly universal. The next guy through will be able to use it right off the bat with no effort. Do these folks a favor and future proof them with Access.
That is only true until Microsoft changes the UI for access completely again and then nobody can use it. Don't you remember what they did to the entire office suite not-too-many years ago? And if any software is never future proof, it is Office. Every time Microsoft releases a new version they muck up backwards compatibility in a new and exciting way.
I think the question might be asked backwards, here. If there is really no IT expertise there, then is Access actually going to get them anything? You might be better off setting them up with something much simpler (for example a spreadsheet) unless they need to be able to connect to it from multiple systems simultaneously or have other requirements that a spreadsheet cannot match.
Don't make your problem more difficult than it needs to be... If you give them software that they can't use then most likely they will stop using it once you are on the plane.
You can't fight Toyota anymore. They will always win any contest they invest in. They haven't lost at anything in the past 20+ years, and they aren't about to start now. It doesn't matter if the technology is an explosively bad idea, they will convince us that we need it and that everything else is a bad idea.
The biggest problem with this is the number of people with multiple phones. I know many people who have their personal phones as well as phones from their employer for work.
Few other companies stop there. They might as well just go all the way and either buy the election or buy the politician. It is, after all, the American Way.
I thought airports in the US (yeah, I know we're talking about the infinitely more important air bases here) were using dogs to scare birds away. If we're just worried about bird strikes then we mostly just need to keep flying birds away from aircraft flight paths, don't we?
Didn't they say several years ago that they were not working on a game console at all - and then a few months later they released the first pictures of what became the original XBox?
So while the for-profit publishing model is generally bad, it is being chipped away at. And with each passing year, more of what taxpayers fund is made publicly accessible immediately; we are already at the point where only the oldest and longest-running NIH grants (and there aren't many left as very few grants go more than 5 years) are exempt from this policy.
The concept of a "smartphone" seems to change at least twice a year. I seem to recall that some time ago it was just a phone that was also a PIM. Then Apple and others told us that a smart phone had to store and play music. Then Facebook told us the smart phone had to natively give them all our personal infomation. Then we were told a phone can't be smart without a 12 megapixel camera with zoom. Then we were told any phone that accesses the internet wirelessly slower than a cable modem isn't smart.
Now, I have no idea what consittutes a smartphone. It apparently is just whatever our carriers tell us (and of course whatever makes them the most money in contract and sales fees).
You can criticize DVD all you want, but it is more lines of resolution than VHS.
So? What are you going to put into those extra lines?
Nothing, actually. My argument was directed at the person who was saying that DVD would be a poor choice for transferring VHS movies to. Just because the lines are available doesn't mean they have to use used.
Now, there may be other options available as destinations for such transfers (actually I'm rather certain there are), and some may even be better choices for various reasons. But for portability between different players, it's hard to beat DVD, and the lifespan of optical media is quite good as well.
It's like using Word4DOS to edit autoexec.bat (if you go back that far) : sure you can do it, but it's a massive overkill for the actual task required, and there's a lot of opportunities to get it wrong.
I believe the original topic of this discussion and article were how this person could get old VHS movies to a digital format. Person who submitted this article was asking for suggestions on VHS players for such a task; I continue to support the earlier suggestion of sending the tapes to someone who does this regularly and let them handle it instead - in no small part due to the opportunities to get it wrong, though for other reasons as well. In addition if it is transfered to DVD, ripping to a digital format is trivially easy on any computer with a DVD drive.
And yes, I did plenty with autoexec.bat back in the day. At one point when the XMS/EMS battles were going on, I set up a menu system between my autoexec.bat and config.sys so I could select at boot which one I want. That was of course back when we purchased RAM in sub-MB increments.
The really frightening bit is how many people have accepted weather to be a factual replacement for climate. Just look at the number of people who used snow in April as an argument against global warming.
If you are afraid to give evidence to back up your assertions, then why are you making those assertions in the first place?
Why am I uniquely required to back up my assertions to such detail? People make assertions on slashdot with great frequency that do not require them to share data that relates to their personal lives, and are not required to share why they made them.
If you were serious about contributing to this discussion, you could have said that there were two states that had this policy and linked to evidence of that policy, without ever saying that you lived there.
Well, I happened to say that I lived in two states with such policies. Perhaps you didn't know this before, but you don't get to take back or edit comments on slashdot. We can debate whether I presented it in the best way, but the past is what it is.
But instead, you were more interested in making it a personal thing about "I experienced that and I am so important that if I told you what state I live in I would have to shoot you."
I made no statement of that sort. I only said that I don't want to share personal information here. I keep slashdot separate from my private life and I intend to keep it that way.
Furthermore my comments did not in any way prevent people from using google or any other search engine to see what policies states use for granting license to teachers.
Get over yourself. You are not so important that someone is going to track you down and hurt you on the basis of a/. comment that reveals indirectly what state you live in.
I'm sorry that you found it so gravely difficult to read my comments. I specifically said that people have been following me on slashdot. That directly states that these are people who have been reading my comments prior to that one.
And that "Climate Change" is often met with "The climate has ALWAYS changed".
So because climate has changed before, we should just keep doing what we're doing, indefinitely, without worrying about consequences? Sure, climate has changed before, but not to this degree in this short of a time frame.
When losing an argument, stick your head in the sand so you don't hear the argument
You can criticize DVD all you want, but it is more lines of resolution than VHS. Now, some transfers are better than others, so one would be wise to look around before committing to let someone do the transfer for them.
And while DVD may be a format approaching obsolescence (at least on the market), there are so many readers out there - and it is trivial to rip DVD to a file on your computer so you have another copy - that it is likely the most portable in the long-term sense.
You've been asked twice already to say where this policy supposedly exists. What states are you talking about?
I'm sorry, but there are people on slashdot who are desperate to figure out who I am. If I give away what state I currently live in, and the other state I have seen this policy in, that would make it that much easier for them to figure it out. I will only say that the 1,000 mile distance is mostly in an east-west direction, with very little north-south movement.
I don't want to call BS on your post if some stupid state where liberals don't think about the consequences of their policies actually did something so dumb.
As I mentioned in another post, at least one of the states has actually faced reductions in state funding for education, which has resulted in fewer people staffing the dept of education to evaluate teachers for licensing. That doesn't sound like a particularly liberal ideal to me, being as liberals are associated with throwing money at problems with wild abandon. Regardless neither state, to the best of my knowledge, is facing any great surplus of qualified teachers where it would make sense for them to turn down people who are demonstrated to be knowledgeable in relevant subjects and interested in teaching.
That, exactly. I can't really imagine how it could be worth your time and effort to do it yourself, unless you have VHS tapes that have material on them that you don't want a third party to see. Send your tapes to someone else to have them transfered to DVD and spend the extra time you just bought yourself doing something enjoyable.
I can tell you that I have lived in two different states - roughly 1,000 miles apart - that have had policies similar to this. Basically neither state will grant a teaching license to anyone who does not have a master's in education. It appears that they were both trying to ensure that they were bringing in better qualified teachers, but they didn't consider that some people might be drawn to secondary teaching after finishing a PhD in their original field. Being as when I was a high school student, both states (to the best of my knowledge) were taking teachers with only bachelor's degrees, they did up the requirements.
When I contacted one of the two states, they told me that basically the education department is too understaffed to evaluate applications that don't come in from people who either have an M. Ed, or are in a licensure program that is designed to lead towards one.
Broward county teachers who have a bachelor's degree average $41,000 salary for the nine-month school year.
Are you sure they are able to teach with only a BS? I don't know about your area but where I live new teachers can only teach with a master's degree in education. Oddly enough we are even rejecting people who have a PhD in the field they would like to teach, and telling them only a master's in education will do.
After all, $15 / hour is better pay than grad school, or an academic postdoc position. There are certainly some people who recently finished their CSci degrees who aren't interested in jobs in industry and would jump at the opportunity to make that wage.
Now, is it what we should pay teachers? No, teachers should earn more than that. But a starting teaching position for someone with only a BS would be reasonable at that wage.
I don't recall Kirk ever saving the universe. I could be mistaken, but I think saving the universe is a bit of a stretch for Kirk or any other character that Shatner has ever played.
You can't conceivably argue I'm wrong, either, considering the current state of the market and Microsoft's much diminished power due to market changes.
Much diminished? The profits at Microsoft suggest otherwise. The lopsided distribution of platforms that code is written for does as well. The share of new PCs sold with windows on it may have diminished from 99% to 95% in the past 20 years; that is not reasonably "much diminished".
And I say this as a Linux user. I would love to say that far fewer PCs today are running Windows than were 20 years ago, but I know that is not true.
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In Who Killed The Electric Car? (why, btw, is not a Michale Moore documentary, nor is it particularly political), the only group that blame was not assigned to was the battery industry. The producers found plenty of blame to go around with pretty well everyone else you can imagine. If Musk were to switch Tesla to making only batteries, the industry could fall out from underneath him - and then he would have nobody to sell his batteries to.
Sounds like a suicidally bad idea.
That is only true until Microsoft changes the UI for access completely again and then nobody can use it.
The old version continues to work indefinitely.
I don't know where you get your Microsoft software from, but I have never seen a Microsoft application that can "work indefinitely". The last program they had that was anything vaguely close to that was called MS-DOS. Anything else will eventually fail over time.
The user has to actually choose to buy the new version, and should understand any changes that will come with it.
You can't keep an old system running forever. Eventually the system itself will need an OS update in order to be patched for the current world, and at some point you'll have an OS that won't run your version of Access. Then what do you do?
There are plenty of real problems in the world. No need to make up imaginary ones.
There is nothing imaginary about applications that don't run on newer operating systems. There is nothing imaginary about the idiotic changes that Microsoft forces down the throats of their users. There is nothing imaginary about the fact that nothing runs forever.
Just bite the bullet and get Access. Everyone can use it. Training is fairly universal. The next guy through will be able to use it right off the bat with no effort. Do these folks a favor and future proof them with Access.
That is only true until Microsoft changes the UI for access completely again and then nobody can use it. Don't you remember what they did to the entire office suite not-too-many years ago? And if any software is never future proof, it is Office. Every time Microsoft releases a new version they muck up backwards compatibility in a new and exciting way.
I think the question might be asked backwards, here. If there is really no IT expertise there, then is Access actually going to get them anything? You might be better off setting them up with something much simpler (for example a spreadsheet) unless they need to be able to connect to it from multiple systems simultaneously or have other requirements that a spreadsheet cannot match.
Don't make your problem more difficult than it needs to be... If you give them software that they can't use then most likely they will stop using it once you are on the plane.
You can't fight Toyota anymore. They will always win any contest they invest in. They haven't lost at anything in the past 20+ years, and they aren't about to start now. It doesn't matter if the technology is an explosively bad idea, they will convince us that we need it and that everything else is a bad idea.
The biggest problem with this is the number of people with multiple phones. I know many people who have their personal phones as well as phones from their employer for work.
Few other companies stop there. They might as well just go all the way and either buy the election or buy the politician. It is, after all, the American Way.
I thought airports in the US (yeah, I know we're talking about the infinitely more important air bases here) were using dogs to scare birds away. If we're just worried about bird strikes then we mostly just need to keep flying birds away from aircraft flight paths, don't we?
That last sentence in the intro made me a bit ill.
Didn't they say several years ago that they were not working on a game console at all - and then a few months later they released the first pictures of what became the original XBox?
Taxpayers in the United States spend $139 billion a year on scientific research, yet much of this research is inaccessible not only to the public
The largest - by dollar amount - government funding agency is The National Institutes of Health (NIH). For some time now they have required that research they fund is published in publicly-accessible ways. This means that all new grants they have handed out have been required to make their published results viewable by anyone, from anywhere.
Similarly, the National Science Foundation (NSF) is planning to go the same way very soon.
So while the for-profit publishing model is generally bad, it is being chipped away at. And with each passing year, more of what taxpayers fund is made publicly accessible immediately; we are already at the point where only the oldest and longest-running NIH grants (and there aren't many left as very few grants go more than 5 years) are exempt from this policy.
The concept of a "smartphone" seems to change at least twice a year. I seem to recall that some time ago it was just a phone that was also a PIM. Then Apple and others told us that a smart phone had to store and play music. Then Facebook told us the smart phone had to natively give them all our personal infomation. Then we were told a phone can't be smart without a 12 megapixel camera with zoom. Then we were told any phone that accesses the internet wirelessly slower than a cable modem isn't smart.
Now, I have no idea what consittutes a smartphone. It apparently is just whatever our carriers tell us (and of course whatever makes them the most money in contract and sales fees).
You can criticize DVD all you want, but it is more lines of resolution than VHS.
So? What are you going to put into those extra lines?
Nothing, actually. My argument was directed at the person who was saying that DVD would be a poor choice for transferring VHS movies to. Just because the lines are available doesn't mean they have to use used.
Now, there may be other options available as destinations for such transfers (actually I'm rather certain there are), and some may even be better choices for various reasons. But for portability between different players, it's hard to beat DVD, and the lifespan of optical media is quite good as well.
It's like using Word4DOS to edit autoexec.bat (if you go back that far) : sure you can do it, but it's a massive overkill for the actual task required, and there's a lot of opportunities to get it wrong.
I believe the original topic of this discussion and article were how this person could get old VHS movies to a digital format. Person who submitted this article was asking for suggestions on VHS players for such a task; I continue to support the earlier suggestion of sending the tapes to someone who does this regularly and let them handle it instead - in no small part due to the opportunities to get it wrong, though for other reasons as well. In addition if it is transfered to DVD, ripping to a digital format is trivially easy on any computer with a DVD drive.
And yes, I did plenty with autoexec.bat back in the day. At one point when the XMS/EMS battles were going on, I set up a menu system between my autoexec.bat and config.sys so I could select at boot which one I want. That was of course back when we purchased RAM in sub-MB increments.
The really frightening bit is how many people have accepted weather to be a factual replacement for climate. Just look at the number of people who used snow in April as an argument against global warming.
If you are afraid to give evidence to back up your assertions, then why are you making those assertions in the first place?
Why am I uniquely required to back up my assertions to such detail? People make assertions on slashdot with great frequency that do not require them to share data that relates to their personal lives, and are not required to share why they made them.
If you were serious about contributing to this discussion, you could have said that there were two states that had this policy and linked to evidence of that policy, without ever saying that you lived there.
Well, I happened to say that I lived in two states with such policies. Perhaps you didn't know this before, but you don't get to take back or edit comments on slashdot. We can debate whether I presented it in the best way, but the past is what it is.
But instead, you were more interested in making it a personal thing about "I experienced that and I am so important that if I told you what state I live in I would have to shoot you."
I made no statement of that sort. I only said that I don't want to share personal information here. I keep slashdot separate from my private life and I intend to keep it that way.
Furthermore my comments did not in any way prevent people from using google or any other search engine to see what policies states use for granting license to teachers.
Get over yourself. You are not so important that someone is going to track you down and hurt you on the basis of a /. comment that reveals indirectly what state you live in.
I'm sorry that you found it so gravely difficult to read my comments. I specifically said that people have been following me on slashdot. That directly states that these are people who have been reading my comments prior to that one.
And that "Climate Change" is often met with "The climate has ALWAYS changed".
So because climate has changed before, we should just keep doing what we're doing, indefinitely, without worrying about consequences? Sure, climate has changed before, but not to this degree in this short of a time frame.
When losing an argument, stick your head in the sand so you don't hear the argument
There, fixed that for your side. You're welcome.
You can criticize DVD all you want, but it is more lines of resolution than VHS. Now, some transfers are better than others, so one would be wise to look around before committing to let someone do the transfer for them.
And while DVD may be a format approaching obsolescence (at least on the market), there are so many readers out there - and it is trivial to rip DVD to a file on your computer so you have another copy - that it is likely the most portable in the long-term sense.
You've been asked twice already to say where this policy supposedly exists. What states are you talking about?
I'm sorry, but there are people on slashdot who are desperate to figure out who I am. If I give away what state I currently live in, and the other state I have seen this policy in, that would make it that much easier for them to figure it out. I will only say that the 1,000 mile distance is mostly in an east-west direction, with very little north-south movement.
I don't want to call BS on your post if some stupid state where liberals don't think about the consequences of their policies actually did something so dumb.
As I mentioned in another post, at least one of the states has actually faced reductions in state funding for education, which has resulted in fewer people staffing the dept of education to evaluate teachers for licensing. That doesn't sound like a particularly liberal ideal to me, being as liberals are associated with throwing money at problems with wild abandon. Regardless neither state, to the best of my knowledge, is facing any great surplus of qualified teachers where it would make sense for them to turn down people who are demonstrated to be knowledgeable in relevant subjects and interested in teaching.
That, exactly. I can't really imagine how it could be worth your time and effort to do it yourself, unless you have VHS tapes that have material on them that you don't want a third party to see. Send your tapes to someone else to have them transfered to DVD and spend the extra time you just bought yourself doing something enjoyable.
I can tell you that I have lived in two different states - roughly 1,000 miles apart - that have had policies similar to this. Basically neither state will grant a teaching license to anyone who does not have a master's in education. It appears that they were both trying to ensure that they were bringing in better qualified teachers, but they didn't consider that some people might be drawn to secondary teaching after finishing a PhD in their original field. Being as when I was a high school student, both states (to the best of my knowledge) were taking teachers with only bachelor's degrees, they did up the requirements.
When I contacted one of the two states, they told me that basically the education department is too understaffed to evaluate applications that don't come in from people who either have an M. Ed, or are in a licensure program that is designed to lead towards one.
Broward county teachers who have a bachelor's degree average $41,000 salary for the nine-month school year.
Are you sure they are able to teach with only a BS? I don't know about your area but where I live new teachers can only teach with a master's degree in education. Oddly enough we are even rejecting people who have a PhD in the field they would like to teach, and telling them only a master's in education will do.
After all, $15 / hour is better pay than grad school, or an academic postdoc position. There are certainly some people who recently finished their CSci degrees who aren't interested in jobs in industry and would jump at the opportunity to make that wage.
Now, is it what we should pay teachers? No, teachers should earn more than that. But a starting teaching position for someone with only a BS would be reasonable at that wage.
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I don't recall Kirk ever saving the universe. I could be mistaken, but I think saving the universe is a bit of a stretch for Kirk or any other character that Shatner has ever played.
You can't conceivably argue I'm wrong, either, considering the current state of the market and Microsoft's much diminished power due to market changes.
Much diminished? The profits at Microsoft suggest otherwise. The lopsided distribution of platforms that code is written for does as well. The share of new PCs sold with windows on it may have diminished from 99% to 95% in the past 20 years; that is not reasonably "much diminished".
And I say this as a Linux user. I would love to say that far fewer PCs today are running Windows than were 20 years ago, but I know that is not true.