Perhaps that's an attempt at humor, but you know, it's getting pretty trite either way:\
Religion has done humanity a lot of good, however true you take its various forms. Sure it's done us a lot of bad too, but such is life. Science has certainly done us a lot of harm, as well as the good we tech-minded people usually prefer to look at. Give people a break. We're all trying ot make it in the world, and "faith" does help a lot of people cope. Hell, I'll go so far as to say that religion serves most people better in making their way in the world than all the over-prescribed anti-depressants, etc. Still, liquors the best solution;-)
While that's true, I think we can expect most of the good websites to limit the use of 3D on crap... most good sites are pretty responsible with that kind of thing. Now the sites our friends and family might go to... oh my god, I don't even want to think of this combined with 3rd party Facebook apps!
Anyway, this could be really nice in AJAX-type apps... I'm thinking of things like iTunes album view, visualizers(?), touch screen stuff, interesting GUIs for Flickr-type apps... there are a lot of good applications for 3D on the web.
I kind of figured that's how you felt; I think it's important to explain it to people a bit though. I know there were times in my life when it would have been good to have heard someone tell me how futile those kinds of thoughts can be, basically what you said, but it can be hard to communicate the whole picture to someone that feels that way.
About the "settle for assimilation, blind hate, futility, alienation, mediocrity or ambivalence or comfort" bit, it was meant for both of you, or anyone who thinks they have to settle in life. We can't necessarily have everything we want in life - but that doesn't mean we have to "settle." On the contrary, the power that comes with the knowledge that one can make decisions to move towards ones goals is astounding. If you hate the world, people, try to fix it and shape your life around that goal - there's no other worthwhile outlet for those feelings. Also, the world sorely needs more rose-growers;-)
It's *all* pointless. The end is the same for everybody. We're all worm food.
is a great plan for mediocrity. There are struggles that are worthwhile and there are struggles that are pointless, but to say that no struggle matters is speaking from both ignorance and arrogance. I mean no offense, we're all ignorant and arrogant to some extent.
Doesn't matter if you rage against the machine or oil its gears. In a hundred years, I promise you it won't matter one whit.
I'll just give a few examples of why this isn't true: Martin Luther King, the Buddha, Jesus, Krishna (to whatever extent those last three are flesh and blood historical figures), Ghandi, US founding fathers, those who participated in the Tiannamen square incident, etc., etc., etc. All these people have had and will continue to affect life for humanity.
So, while it's true that blindly "raging against the machine" is pointless, just because you have
a nice job, nice house, nice car and a family I love dearly
doesn't make you any better or make your life more worthwhile or valueable than someone who can't afford to fix their teeth. Their pain and alienation may be far more meaningful than your "boring life" (your words).
All I'm saying is you don't have to settle for assimilation, blind hate, futility, alienation, mediocrity or ambivalence or comfort. Do something with your life and make the world a better place, but don't "sell out" or become so bitter that you are divorced from the world. It's not worth it for you or anybody else.
The unfortunate reality, which unfortunately (I don't think) is limited to America, is that if you are in a position to commit white collar crime, you almost certainly have access to high-paid lawyers who can make a lot of trouble for all parties involved in your crime (from banks to the police to the court to associates to politicians). Find a way to fix that and you will have a solution to a problem millennia old!
I think the guy is completely wrong about this being marketable
See my last comment in this thread. Or just Google Mick Boogie, Terry Urban, DJ Benzi, Kruder & Dorfmeister, Mix Master Mike, the X-Ecutioners, Afrikaa Bambata, KutMster Kurt, Kid Koala, Girltalk, Ming & FS, Bill Laswell, DJ Spooky, D.J.P., DJ Wally... it goes on and on and on.
The indie music industry/network/hustle is just about to blow up. There are a lot of people making money hustling indie music. It's pretty much all hipsters and hip hop, so I don't know what that means for you. If you can play music start recording now. Especially if you can find a niche genre to work in. Anyone know where indie Prog. is these days?
The future's brighter than ever man. When you can look through indie labels' music *before it is released* on Amazon.com and iTunes, go to mp3/promo blogs (legal ones) like thecultureofme.com, Nah Right, Scatterblog, Press Play Fashion Forward, Miss Info, (so so many out there). You can listen to podcasts by the likes of Mick Boogie/Terry Urban, Dex Digital (kinda slanted to hip hop here but I know the emo/rock kids are doin' this stuff too). Hell, most independent labels are a "[genre] label" Google search away and offer promo mp3s.
If it doesn't go up from here, humanity probably needs to apologize to Apollo and just give music back to him at this point:-)
First of all it's not exactly funk at this point, it's something akin to Turntablism but with digital equipment. This is the realm of the DJ. If you don't like it, fine, but know that you probably don't much about it/us.
If you think you can't listen to DJ music in public or at a party... uh? There are so many people who do so many crazy parties doing this kind of music live I can only name a few big ones: Mick Boogie, KutMaster Kurt, Kid Koala, Kruder & Dorfmeister. Hell, take it back a decade or two and you have Afrikaa Bambata, Mix Master Mike, X-Ecutioners. It's not exactly anything new, and people have been boppin' to it for quite some time fool;-)
Well right, but how do we convince people that Linux should be on those laptops? That's what I'm trying to get at. You have to convince people they want Linux somehow - ease of use is the thing I see as most important to most normal people who have to use computers in their jobs, etc. Something drastically easier to use (compared to OS X or Windows) for word processing, email, web, photos, entertainment, etc. would be a huge selling point to the vast majority of computer users.
It falls short in that it is not causing people to adopt Ubuntu faster. Otherwise, I love it! My point is having a killer UI (better than Windows in any number of various ways) just might give Linux that push it needs. Just look at the iPhone - the UI instantly smashed the US market because it was so much better than your typical phone UI. Phone UIs aren't bad (well some of them anyway), but the iPhone's was what people wanted and they flocked in droves to get it. Same with the iPod. Whereas, say, OS X's UI isn't that much better than Windows' which really marginalizes any of the ways it *is* better (not flamebaiting here just my humble opinion).
I just don't buy the idea that an OS that stopped being produced 17 years ago has much to do with today's desktop market. If you want to get Linux on more computers pre-installed, you have to supply a reason for there to be demand for it. If Linux (well really we are talking about particular windowing systems here) was significantly easier for email, web browsing, photography, word processing, and entertainment than Windows, people would flock to it. I am not saying Linux is "too hard" for most people, I am saying it doesn't offer anything significantly better than Windows or OS X *for most people.* It's free, sure, but people haven't been given a chance to understand that it is reliable and pretty much the same for end user stuff as Windows and to some extent OS X. If the average person saw the neighborhood kid using a super simple, eye-candied interface with shit like the touch screen stuff for manipulating photo libraries (think iPhone), and then they found out it was FREE, you can bet that within months Linux would be being loaded onto all kinds of desktop and laptop hardware.
Well, if he's trying to review from a 'clueless user' perspective, he's certainly on track.
That's exactly what Linux needs. The only way to get respect is through an easy to use UI, which is what the "clueless users" need who, you know, drive the market for desktops. If Linux was easier to use and free/cheap (as in beer), it wouldn't take long for it to be adopted. It just isn't there yet. And the only way to get there is to listen to these "clueless users."
This idea that there is no call for well rounded education makes us, Americans as a whole, dumber. It would be better for us as a whole if high schoolers were exposed to subjects such as quantum physics or ancient history.
If it weren't important to me to lead an enriching life, I could agree with your sentiment here. Unfortunately it is important to me; I loved my British Lit. classes. If they didn't make me a better programmer, they certainly made my life better and more interesting.
I'm not saying you're a bad coder. I really don't want to imply that. I haven't met you. I will say though, that whenever I get to read someone's VB code, it's pretty obvious that they are fairly mediocre programmers.
For me though, it's purely a matter of aesthetics. Why be so verbose!?
P.S. There are some differences between VB.NET and C#, for instance how events are handled, FWIW.
Any links, etc. would be great (or well, I'll probably just go Google it). I *am* a little foggy on what is going on. I was a bit peeved when I heard they withdrew their support, but not enough to stop me from going to hulu.com
Hulu is a great service, and I really hope they will get behind Boxee or a similar product in the *very* near future.
Oh hey thanks. Boxee hadn't posted it on Titter (obviously). I guess Hulu ticked me off so much I kind of forgot to think of some kind of hacked-up approach...
P.S. anyone else think something that ran an older emac or imac would be really nice (at least as an audio appliance)? They're the perfect shape. Getting Ubuntu 8.10 PPC onto an 800mhz eMac wasn't that bad besides some arcane video driver issues...
Currently in dependency Hell getting Gnash to work (for some reason the gcc-3.3-base package to install on PPC is broken).
Hulu needs to let Boxee use them as a chabnel again. Those dudes need to team up... Thinking of the biggest "push" model (broadcast) moving to the "pull" model (aggregated RSS feeds as "channels") makes me wet my pants. This would be a good first step. I don't care who makes it work; I just want it now!!
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Perhaps that's an attempt at humor, but you know, it's getting pretty trite either way :\
;-)
Religion has done humanity a lot of good, however true you take its various forms. Sure it's done us a lot of bad too, but such is life. Science has certainly done us a lot of harm, as well as the good we tech-minded people usually prefer to look at. Give people a break. We're all trying ot make it in the world, and "faith" does help a lot of people cope. Hell, I'll go so far as to say that religion serves most people better in making their way in the world than all the over-prescribed anti-depressants, etc. Still, liquors the best solution
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I'd hate to imagine what the web would be like without there having been some effort at standardization. Blech.
While that's true, I think we can expect most of the good websites to limit the use of 3D on crap... most good sites are pretty responsible with that kind of thing. Now the sites our friends and family might go to... oh my god, I don't even want to think of this combined with 3rd party Facebook apps!
Anyway, this could be really nice in AJAX-type apps... I'm thinking of things like iTunes album view, visualizers(?), touch screen stuff, interesting GUIs for Flickr-type apps... there are a lot of good applications for 3D on the web.
I kind of figured that's how you felt; I think it's important to explain it to people a bit though. I know there were times in my life when it would have been good to have heard someone tell me how futile those kinds of thoughts can be, basically what you said, but it can be hard to communicate the whole picture to someone that feels that way.
;-)
About the "settle for assimilation, blind hate, futility, alienation, mediocrity or ambivalence or comfort" bit, it was meant for both of you, or anyone who thinks they have to settle in life. We can't necessarily have everything we want in life - but that doesn't mean we have to "settle." On the contrary, the power that comes with the knowledge that one can make decisions to move towards ones goals is astounding. If you hate the world, people, try to fix it and shape your life around that goal - there's no other worthwhile outlet for those feelings. Also, the world sorely needs more rose-growers
It's *all* pointless. The end is the same for everybody. We're all worm food.
is a great plan for mediocrity. There are struggles that are worthwhile and there are struggles that are pointless, but to say that no struggle matters is speaking from both ignorance and arrogance. I mean no offense, we're all ignorant and arrogant to some extent.
Doesn't matter if you rage against the machine or oil its gears. In a hundred years, I promise you it won't matter one whit.
I'll just give a few examples of why this isn't true: Martin Luther King, the Buddha, Jesus, Krishna (to whatever extent those last three are flesh and blood historical figures), Ghandi, US founding fathers, those who participated in the Tiannamen square incident, etc., etc., etc. All these people have had and will continue to affect life for humanity.
So, while it's true that blindly "raging against the machine" is pointless, just because you have
a nice job, nice house, nice car and a family I love dearly
doesn't make you any better or make your life more worthwhile or valueable than someone who can't afford to fix their teeth. Their pain and alienation may be far more meaningful than your "boring life" (your words).
All I'm saying is you don't have to settle for assimilation, blind hate, futility, alienation, mediocrity or ambivalence or comfort. Do something with your life and make the world a better place, but don't "sell out" or become so bitter that you are divorced from the world. It's not worth it for you or anybody else.
The unfortunate reality, which unfortunately (I don't think) is limited to America, is that if you are in a position to commit white collar crime, you almost certainly have access to high-paid lawyers who can make a lot of trouble for all parties involved in your crime (from banks to the police to the court to associates to politicians). Find a way to fix that and you will have a solution to a problem millennia old!
hipster doofus
Not one myself, but fuck that attitude.
I think the guy is completely wrong about this being marketable
See my last comment in this thread. Or just Google Mick Boogie, Terry Urban, DJ Benzi, Kruder & Dorfmeister, Mix Master Mike, the X-Ecutioners, Afrikaa Bambata, KutMster Kurt, Kid Koala, Girltalk, Ming & FS, Bill Laswell, DJ Spooky, D.J.P., DJ Wally ... it goes on and on and on.
The indie music industry/network/hustle is just about to blow up. There are a lot of people making money hustling indie music. It's pretty much all hipsters and hip hop, so I don't know what that means for you. If you can play music start recording now. Especially if you can find a niche genre to work in. Anyone know where indie Prog. is these days?
The future's brighter than ever man. When you can look through indie labels' music *before it is released* on Amazon.com and iTunes, go to mp3/promo blogs (legal ones) like thecultureofme.com, Nah Right, Scatterblog, Press Play Fashion Forward, Miss Info, (so so many out there). You can listen to podcasts by the likes of Mick Boogie/Terry Urban, Dex Digital (kinda slanted to hip hop here but I know the emo/rock kids are doin' this stuff too). Hell, most independent labels are a "[genre] label" Google search away and offer promo mp3s.
:-)
If it doesn't go up from here, humanity probably needs to apologize to Apollo and just give music back to him at this point
First of all it's not exactly funk at this point, it's something akin to Turntablism but with digital equipment. This is the realm of the DJ. If you don't like it, fine, but know that you probably don't much about it/us.
;-)
If you think you can't listen to DJ music in public or at a party... uh? There are so many people who do so many crazy parties doing this kind of music live I can only name a few big ones: Mick Boogie, KutMaster Kurt, Kid Koala, Kruder & Dorfmeister. Hell, take it back a decade or two and you have Afrikaa Bambata, Mix Master Mike, X-Ecutioners. It's not exactly anything new, and people have been boppin' to it for quite some time fool
Well right, but how do we convince people that Linux should be on those laptops? That's what I'm trying to get at. You have to convince people they want Linux somehow - ease of use is the thing I see as most important to most normal people who have to use computers in their jobs, etc. Something drastically easier to use (compared to OS X or Windows) for word processing, email, web, photos, entertainment, etc. would be a huge selling point to the vast majority of computer users.
It falls short in that it is not causing people to adopt Ubuntu faster. Otherwise, I love it! My point is having a killer UI (better than Windows in any number of various ways) just might give Linux that push it needs. Just look at the iPhone - the UI instantly smashed the US market because it was so much better than your typical phone UI. Phone UIs aren't bad (well some of them anyway), but the iPhone's was what people wanted and they flocked in droves to get it. Same with the iPod. Whereas, say, OS X's UI isn't that much better than Windows' which really marginalizes any of the ways it *is* better (not flamebaiting here just my humble opinion).
Build a system even a fool can use and only a fool will want to.
No one's advocating building a UI for "fools," but I digress as it seems you are probably just trying to start a pissing contest.
I just don't buy the idea that an OS that stopped being produced 17 years ago has much to do with today's desktop market. If you want to get Linux on more computers pre-installed, you have to supply a reason for there to be demand for it. If Linux (well really we are talking about particular windowing systems here) was significantly easier for email, web browsing, photography, word processing, and entertainment than Windows, people would flock to it. I am not saying Linux is "too hard" for most people, I am saying it doesn't offer anything significantly better than Windows or OS X *for most people.* It's free, sure, but people haven't been given a chance to understand that it is reliable and pretty much the same for end user stuff as Windows and to some extent OS X. If the average person saw the neighborhood kid using a super simple, eye-candied interface with shit like the touch screen stuff for manipulating photo libraries (think iPhone), and then they found out it was FREE, you can bet that within months Linux would be being loaded onto all kinds of desktop and laptop hardware.
Well, if he's trying to review from a 'clueless user' perspective, he's certainly on track.
That's exactly what Linux needs. The only way to get respect is through an easy to use UI, which is what the "clueless users" need who, you know, drive the market for desktops. If Linux was easier to use and free/cheap (as in beer), it wouldn't take long for it to be adopted. It just isn't there yet. And the only way to get there is to listen to these "clueless users."
This idea that there is no call for well rounded education makes us, Americans as a whole, dumber. It would be better for us as a whole if high schoolers were exposed to subjects such as quantum physics or ancient history.
If it weren't important to me to lead an enriching life, I could agree with your sentiment here. Unfortunately it is important to me; I loved my British Lit. classes. If they didn't make me a better programmer, they certainly made my life better and more interesting.
I'm not saying you're a bad coder. I really don't want to imply that. I haven't met you. I will say though, that whenever I get to read someone's VB code, it's pretty obvious that they are fairly mediocre programmers.
For me though, it's purely a matter of aesthetics. Why be so verbose!?
P.S. There are some differences between VB.NET and C#, for instance how events are handled, FWIW.
True dat. Sandman is the "right" answer; I wouldn't even put the Watchmen on the list. 'Cause I haven't read any! But then I'm a huge manga nerd so...
Whadya wanna bet it's in VB, too. Backwards institutions seem to love VB.NET!
Any links, etc. would be great (or well, I'll probably just go Google it). I *am* a little foggy on what is going on. I was a bit peeved when I heard they withdrew their support, but not enough to stop me from going to hulu.com
Hulu is a great service, and I really hope they will get behind Boxee or a similar product in the *very* near future.
Oh hey thanks. Boxee hadn't posted it on Titter (obviously). I guess Hulu ticked me off so much I kind of forgot to think of some kind of hacked-up approach...
Hmmm... LifeHacker is +1 Informative again?
P.S. anyone else think something that ran an older emac or imac would be really nice (at least as an audio appliance)? They're the perfect shape. Getting Ubuntu 8.10 PPC onto an 800mhz eMac wasn't that bad besides some arcane video driver issues...
Currently in dependency Hell getting Gnash to work (for some reason the gcc-3.3-base package to install on PPC is broken).
Hulu needs to let Boxee use them as a chabnel again. Those dudes need to team up... Thinking of the biggest "push" model (broadcast) moving to the "pull" model (aggregated RSS feeds as "channels") makes me wet my pants. This would be a good first step. I don't care who makes it work; I just want it now!!