>> Tab Mix Plus
Thats probably adding most of the bloat. Would be nice if they didnt duplicate functionality with so many built in firefox features (tab undo, restore session, etc)
....Which seems to bring the whole extension problem right back into the equation, doesnt it?
Is there some technical difference between "widget" and "extension" that makes one inherently less secure than the other?
Except each new tab instance in chrome does not appear to carry the weight of all the plugins with it. Each plugin while running seems to be its own process or thread, seperate from the page process that spawned it (at least as shown by the chrome task manager).
As parent pointed out, you dont run itaniums on a workstation, and you dont run fedora on servers. If you do, youre asking for trouble-- it is NOT a server OS.
If youre seriously proposing that without unions, we would have ridiculous work weeks and no choice about it, no ability to retire, and no regulations, you are sadly misinformed. Unions performed a useful function, but I am currently in a non-unionized shop (it consulting) and have benefits, a decent salary, and a 40-hour work week-- less if i bill a substantial amount.
Reality tends to disagree with every one of your points.
I wonder if this means that if you hurled 100mm armor steel plate @ mach 8.0 at a pencil if the pencil would survive-- perhaps we should be investing in pencil-based armor
Correct me if im wrong, but if youre setting up a thin client deployment scenario, having to configure the client is a very minor issue because you do it once and it applies to all clients.
By dedicating their lives to hard work... when they can't get jobs?
Neither can the person they killed, and 19 years in prison doesnt change that. Who got the worse end of the deal here?
By dedicating themselves to community service... when the public views them with mistrust and suspicion?
Id say that mistrust is well placed. They already badly abused society's trust once.
By voluntarily giving restitution money to the victim's family... when they're broke (see first point)?
Ever wonder what being dead does to your family's savings (if you were the earner in the family)?
Honestly, im not clear why we need to treat the murderer like hes the victim here. There is something badly wrong with your sense of justice if you think you should worry about a murder's issues with society trusting him after punishment. Whats next, providing financial assistance for someone that has been issued a fine?
Public trials, public records are public because of certain laws make them public (simply ignoring to check if it was a public trial in this specific case).
The government does not grant society the right to having an accurate history. It is rather scary that someone would assume that history is a privelege.
As opposed to the idea that "WE NEED TO HELP HIM"? Crimes deserve punishments, and punishments should fit the crime-- just about any sane society will agree on this. I would argue that if you choose to let a murderer live, that fact should CERTAINLY not be secret for a large number of reasons, and would count that as a reasonable and just consequence of their actions.
I was under the assumption that no scientific theory can be proven with 100% certainty. Are you simply holding religious views to a higher standard than you hold your own?
Most of the people i know have no issue with ripping a dvd that theyve rented. DRM could potentially limit this, so yes, it does serve a purpose for rentals. Youre really underestimating just how cheap people are.
I see people posting this nonsense, and yet i have a coworker who regularly has a quadruple-size windows start bar filled with ~15 instances of firefox, each with several (5+) tabs open. He doesnt have more than 4gb of ram, nor a 64bit machine, and its apparently not a problem (hes an it consultant, so he would notice).
Is it at all possible its the sites youre visiting, or the addons youre using, or the plugins that are loaded? None of those are firefox's fault, you know.
Somehow with about 5 minutes of googling i found the setting and extension to revert its behavior to the satisfaction of a rabidly anti-awesomebar coworker. Honestly, it wasnt that big of a deal.
Im not sure how much water the due diligence argument holds; antivirus doesnt keep anyone out. Firewalls and IDS would be due diligence; antivirus is of debatable value.
ClamAV does nothing automatically, so it wouldnt really qualify for the first part of the test. If youre suggesting ClamAV to people as a primary antivirus, youre doing it wrong. Moonsecure would be a different story, but Im not sure how good it is.
Youll want to back each of those claims up. For example, are you claiming the logitech G7 wireless laser mouse (over 2000 dpi, iirc) is less accurate than a standard USB mouse? Or that it has less lag than a $5 ubercheap mouse?
As for security, thats on par with suggesting "if you need the security of a simple house lock, you might as well get iron bars fitted over your windows and bulletproof glass". One does not follow from the other. Not wanting someone to be able to trivially sniff all of your mouse movements and inject crap doesnt mean that you need 2048 bit encryption on it.
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>> Tab Mix Plus Thats probably adding most of the bloat. Would be nice if they didnt duplicate functionality with so many built in firefox features (tab undo, restore session, etc)
....Which seems to bring the whole extension problem right back into the equation, doesnt it? Is there some technical difference between "widget" and "extension" that makes one inherently less secure than the other?
Except each new tab instance in chrome does not appear to carry the weight of all the plugins with it. Each plugin while running seems to be its own process or thread, seperate from the page process that spawned it (at least as shown by the chrome task manager).
Isnt firefox lambasted for this kind of "bloat" on a regular basis? Which is it, every browser should have these, or theyre bloat?
As parent pointed out, you dont run itaniums on a workstation, and you dont run fedora on servers. If you do, youre asking for trouble-- it is NOT a server OS.
Wouldnt fedora be precisely the WRONG distro to use as a server on a network, given that it is a bleeding edge distro?
If youre seriously proposing that without unions, we would have ridiculous work weeks and no choice about it, no ability to retire, and no regulations, you are sadly misinformed. Unions performed a useful function, but I am currently in a non-unionized shop (it consulting) and have benefits, a decent salary, and a 40-hour work week-- less if i bill a substantial amount.
Reality tends to disagree with every one of your points.
I wonder if this means that if you hurled 100mm armor steel plate @ mach 8.0 at a pencil if the pencil would survive-- perhaps we should be investing in pencil-based armor
Correct me if im wrong, but if youre setting up a thin client deployment scenario, having to configure the client is a very minor issue because you do it once and it applies to all clients.
By dedicating their lives to hard work ... when they can't get jobs?
Neither can the person they killed, and 19 years in prison doesnt change that. Who got the worse end of the deal here?
By dedicating themselves to community service ... when the public views them with mistrust and suspicion?
Id say that mistrust is well placed. They already badly abused society's trust once.
By voluntarily giving restitution money to the victim's family ... when they're broke (see first point)?
Ever wonder what being dead does to your family's savings (if you were the earner in the family)?
Honestly, im not clear why we need to treat the murderer like hes the victim here. There is something badly wrong with your sense of justice if you think you should worry about a murder's issues with society trusting him after punishment. Whats next, providing financial assistance for someone that has been issued a fine?
For example, you can go to jail for denying the holocaust happened...
Isnt it odd that a society that places such value on avoiding historical lies would be pushing to censor history in this case?
Public trials, public records are public because of certain laws make them public (simply ignoring to check if it was a public trial in this specific case).
The government does not grant society the right to having an accurate history. It is rather scary that someone would assume that history is a privelege.
As opposed to the idea that "WE NEED TO HELP HIM"? Crimes deserve punishments, and punishments should fit the crime-- just about any sane society will agree on this. I would argue that if you choose to let a murderer live, that fact should CERTAINLY not be secret for a large number of reasons, and would count that as a reasonable and just consequence of their actions.
I was under the assumption that no scientific theory can be proven with 100% certainty. Are you simply holding religious views to a higher standard than you hold your own?
Most of the people i know have no issue with ripping a dvd that theyve rented. DRM could potentially limit this, so yes, it does serve a purpose for rentals. Youre really underestimating just how cheap people are.
Firefox does this as well.
Isnt that generally what its like when you sign a contract? Its expensive and painful to back out?
I see people posting this nonsense, and yet i have a coworker who regularly has a quadruple-size windows start bar filled with ~15 instances of firefox, each with several (5+) tabs open. He doesnt have more than 4gb of ram, nor a 64bit machine, and its apparently not a problem (hes an it consultant, so he would notice).
Is it at all possible its the sites youre visiting, or the addons youre using, or the plugins that are loaded? None of those are firefox's fault, you know.
Somehow with about 5 minutes of googling i found the setting and extension to revert its behavior to the satisfaction of a rabidly anti-awesomebar coworker. Honestly, it wasnt that big of a deal.
Just tell them to use combofix. It removes everything.
Or you could just use Chrome or OpenDNS, both of which do this automatically.
Im not sure how much water the due diligence argument holds; antivirus doesnt keep anyone out. Firewalls and IDS would be due diligence; antivirus is of debatable value.
ClamAV does nothing automatically, so it wouldnt really qualify for the first part of the test. If youre suggesting ClamAV to people as a primary antivirus, youre doing it wrong. Moonsecure would be a different story, but Im not sure how good it is.
Im not quite sure that i would call Outward Bound "treatment", or that i would compare it to electroshock therapy.
Youll want to back each of those claims up. For example, are you claiming the logitech G7 wireless laser mouse (over 2000 dpi, iirc) is less accurate than a standard USB mouse? Or that it has less lag than a $5 ubercheap mouse?
As for security, thats on par with suggesting "if you need the security of a simple house lock, you might as well get iron bars fitted over your windows and bulletproof glass". One does not follow from the other. Not wanting someone to be able to trivially sniff all of your mouse movements and inject crap doesnt mean that you need 2048 bit encryption on it.