On the desktop it's pretty much biz as usual. I like the improved multi-monitor support. Hell my 7yr old figured out how to get around without any help from me.
I like developing for wp and don't give a fuck when the wp8 sdk is out. It's a shame that I have to suffer with these horrible dev tools oh and at a bill rate of 65/hr. it's a lot to put up with..net is king right now and a pretty decent way to make a living.
Haha WordPerfect on OS/2 was the shizzle.
Is there a WP7 market? Not really, I sort of got lucky with this gig but it's basically Silverlight 4 so it was an easy transition. I wrote an app for the phone, for fun, that got over 15k downloads and it part of the reason I got the job. I have no idea what I'll be working on next.
That's sort of what I did. I started on the AS/400, I was asked to do integration between the 400, AIX, Solaris, and WINNT. I of course jumped at that. I had to teach devs how to use the MQSeries API, so I had to know how to do that in RPG, Java, C, C++, and whatever other language, MQSeries supports a bunch. Then I bounced around doing different things and the platform or language didn't matter.
This company wants a WP7 version of the app they have on Android and iOS, I imagine they'll port it to WinRT/WP8 as well.
I went to a Pragmatic Studio on iOS and have written a few things for iOS. There are opportunities of iOS but I can't seem to pull myself away from the.NET gigs right now. I've been spoiled working with the tools as well. I have played with the MonoTouch stuff and that's another avenue for a C# dev. It's easier to write apps for the iPhone using MT than it is to write apps for WP7, imo. MonoTouch is a sweet piece of tech.
I don't pick and choose what to learn based on how popular it is so maybe that's why I've been successful so far. I've also found that it gets easier to pick up new stuff because I have such a diverse background. Learning ASP.NET MVC was very easy because of the work I had done with RoR. Right now there is a huge demand for ASP.NET MVC, well, there's a huge demand for just C#.
"I've always refused to use MS languages/.NET , but I guess it is the easiest route to getting a job.. it just would make me feel so dirty.."
Not I, I've always learned as much as possible, I've written COBOL, RPG/400, C, Java, Powerbuilder, VB, C#, Ruby, and others. I adore programming, all of it and really enjoy the.NET stack. People love to pile on Microsoft but, like other companies, have provided me a way to earn a really nice living. Currently, I'm getting paid to write apps for WP7 and having a blast. I love what I'm doing and look forward to my next adventure.
It's not MS, people love any excuse to rip on MS.
Heaven forbid MS try and protect non-tech users from installing software that might be malicious, which is what SmartScreen does. And of course, it can be turned off.
Yikes, I don't miss XP at all. I don't miss the ritual of installing a bazillion anti-spyware/malware application. Changing all my settings and appearance to be the way I like it. Don't miss that at all.
Installed Win8 on my main development machine yesterday and all the settings came over from RP, sweet.
True, I've worked on several platforms the as/400, AIX, SCO, Solaris, etc. But the demand is so high for.NET right now there's no point in doing anything else, for me.
Interesting, I thought the opposite. I don't miss the start button at all but I didn't use it on Win7. I really like VS2012 and I'm looking forward to getting a tablet. I also installed it on an older computer I use in the kitchen. I was surprised at how much faster it runs that Win7 on older hardware. Cool stuff and not even close to Bob...
anyhow, continue with your FUD.
Some of us actually use Win7/8 for work, to make $$, The demand for.NET developers is nuts right now. I can't make mad cash with my mad skillz on Linux or MacOS.
Typical geek squad / tech guy from SNL attitude. Can remove malware and charge $95. Oh, you can't find the start button, we have a 2min training class for that, $50.
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Novell? I don't think so, try again.
Na, the mobile party is just getting started...
On the desktop it's pretty much biz as usual. I like the improved multi-monitor support. Hell my 7yr old figured out how to get around without any help from me.
Excellent point.
Maybe they'll grow up? Doubtful, they've being this way for how long?
Do you ever watch South Park?
Rtfa, lol, most of these fanbois see Microsoft in the title and go to town.
I prefer no start button but then again, I've actually used the OS, back to FUD now.
I like developing for wp and don't give a fuck when the wp8 sdk is out. It's a shame that I have to suffer with these horrible dev tools oh and at a bill rate of 65/hr. it's a lot to put up with. .net is king right now and a pretty decent way to make a living.
Because when they get out into the real world they won't see any, unless they're in design or something.
Haha WordPerfect on OS/2 was the shizzle. Is there a WP7 market? Not really, I sort of got lucky with this gig but it's basically Silverlight 4 so it was an easy transition. I wrote an app for the phone, for fun, that got over 15k downloads and it part of the reason I got the job. I have no idea what I'll be working on next.
That's sort of what I did. I started on the AS/400, I was asked to do integration between the 400, AIX, Solaris, and WINNT. I of course jumped at that. I had to teach devs how to use the MQSeries API, so I had to know how to do that in RPG, Java, C, C++, and whatever other language, MQSeries supports a bunch. Then I bounced around doing different things and the platform or language didn't matter.
Hopefully it's >60+/hr because for experienced C#/.NET, that's the going rate here, in the mid-west.
This company wants a WP7 version of the app they have on Android and iOS, I imagine they'll port it to WinRT/WP8 as well. I went to a Pragmatic Studio on iOS and have written a few things for iOS. There are opportunities of iOS but I can't seem to pull myself away from the .NET gigs right now. I've been spoiled working with the tools as well. I have played with the MonoTouch stuff and that's another avenue for a C# dev. It's easier to write apps for the iPhone using MT than it is to write apps for WP7, imo. MonoTouch is a sweet piece of tech.
I don't pick and choose what to learn based on how popular it is so maybe that's why I've been successful so far. I've also found that it gets easier to pick up new stuff because I have such a diverse background. Learning ASP.NET MVC was very easy because of the work I had done with RoR. Right now there is a huge demand for ASP.NET MVC, well, there's a huge demand for just C#.
"I've always refused to use MS languages/.NET , but I guess it is the easiest route to getting a job.. it just would make me feel so dirty.." Not I, I've always learned as much as possible, I've written COBOL, RPG/400, C, Java, Powerbuilder, VB, C#, Ruby, and others. I adore programming, all of it and really enjoy the .NET stack. People love to pile on Microsoft but, like other companies, have provided me a way to earn a really nice living. Currently, I'm getting paid to write apps for WP7 and having a blast. I love what I'm doing and look forward to my next adventure.
It's not MS, people love any excuse to rip on MS. Heaven forbid MS try and protect non-tech users from installing software that might be malicious, which is what SmartScreen does. And of course, it can be turned off.
Yikes, I don't miss XP at all. I don't miss the ritual of installing a bazillion anti-spyware/malware application. Changing all my settings and appearance to be the way I like it. Don't miss that at all. Installed Win8 on my main development machine yesterday and all the settings came over from RP, sweet.
Having to turn off Windows Defender is the nail?
True, I've worked on several platforms the as/400, AIX, SCO, Solaris, etc. But the demand is so high for .NET right now there's no point in doing anything else, for me.
Interesting, I thought the opposite. I don't miss the start button at all but I didn't use it on Win7. I really like VS2012 and I'm looking forward to getting a tablet. I also installed it on an older computer I use in the kitchen. I was surprised at how much faster it runs that Win7 on older hardware. Cool stuff and not even close to Bob... anyhow, continue with your FUD.
Some of us actually use Win7/8 for work, to make $$, The demand for .NET developers is nuts right now. I can't make mad cash with my mad skillz on Linux or MacOS.
Typical geek squad / tech guy from SNL attitude. Can remove malware and charge $95. Oh, you can't find the start button, we have a 2min training class for that, $50.
Been using the RTM and love it, so suicide = love ? Whatever, I can't wait to get a tablet.
So Adam didn't have a pet Velociraptor?
Unless they're a .net shop and need a tablet solution and want to reuse the .net skills they already have. Then they will.