And you electric vehicle assholes, where do you think your pollution is going.
Same place your gas guzzlers pollution is going. Air. Fact is, the bigger the plant, the better the efficiency, and vastly more easier to filter. Which means, less pollution for the same amount of energy.
It's being made at those big electric power plants like Navajo in Arizona and YOU ARE CLOUDING MY GRAND CANYON and CHOKING the poor Native Americans with you F^CKING POLLUTION!!
No, it's being made at those big electric power plants everywhere on the planet, you know they really haven't concentrated the power production of the whole world in Arizona to piss of those poor native americans. Nice spin, though, but you might consider making it little less transparent...
Seriously, give it a whirl, maybe someone just though it'd be a nice idea to put it there, and didn't stop to think about the fact that you don't need to agree to the license to use it.
In which case it obviously doesn't matter any more, because the bad guys could just replace the main mozilla downloads with backdoored version instead of trying to get us to download an extension.
Nope. My virus scanner said specifically that it didn't touch that file because it was my inbox.
Well, it's obviously lying to you.
I bet you can't reproduce this without the virus scanner running, not that you care because you're made your mind. Because the thing most likely guilty said it's not the bad guy, so it obviously must be thunderbird...
Switch to less braindead virus scanner, problem solved. Which one is it, btw, so others know to stay away?
Tolerance? Does that mean we should tolerate evil? How about injustice? Tyranny?
You claim to be a preacher. You should know that according to the Book, answer to all those is big and resounding YES.
If you seem them, you should try to make a change, but not by becoming just as evil yourself, but by showing example.
... Were our founders wrong?
You seem to think so. If those rights are indeed inherent and inalienable, you obviously can't in any way give them to someone, or force them to someone, because they already have them. It's their own choice whether or to use those "god-given" rights.
Also keep in mind, that your founders were just people. Just like you are. Just like Bush is. Just like all those folks you're slaughtering are. The equal part, remember?
The system isn't flawed because people don't vote.
It may not be flawed, but it certainly isn't democracy, even representational, either if people don't vote.
Do you really think that George W. Bush and John F. Kerry would be the candidates if say 80% of people that could vote would vote?
No, they wouldn't. And you think that ISN'T a problem? Instead of getting a president most people would take, it selects a candidate that 20% people like (if even them, they may just feel obligated to vote, to try to pick the lesser evil from the only two options forced on them).
What comes to lack of viable third alternative... of course there are no viable third alternatives, as long as the people are brainwashed to believe they can not possibly get anyone if it isn't from the "big two" then they won't.
The rats themselves do not carry diseases (they are clean animals)
Of course they do, every animal, no matter how clean, has it's own fair share of diseases, some of which are capable of being transmitted to other species, sometimes including humans.
Rats (and rodents in general) may not be any more filthy than other animals, but they pose a problem because they're more common in inhabited areas, and come in contact with humans (and perhaps more importantly) and human foodstuffs quite often. You don't want shit and piss in your food, no matter how cleanly the animal who did that lives.
the fleas that live on them do - ala the Black Death in Europe during the middle ages.
The Black Death is not the only rat-bound disease (see for example leptospirosis, cryptosporidiosis and hantavirus for diseases where rat is direct carrier), and even though it's not the direct vector in that case, it's still a carrier - no rats means no fleas.
Now, if someone were dumb enough to come forward and say "this software I stole did something nasty to my computer," they might very well make an exception...
They might. However, unlike the distributors, folks making the software could hardly claim they've suffered more damages than the price of software, which was, $20.
It's certainly not a common case of extortion
Well, comparisons hardly ever work, but let's try, if you borrow your neighbours hammer (or other relatively cheap item) and "forget" to return it, it's basically a theft, if your neighbour now steals your car, which is thousands of times more expensive, and holds it ransom until you return the hammer, you don't think that would count as an extortion? If you bring it to court, the original thief MIGHT get something, but it'd be very small and puny compared to the one that makes a bigger crime to revenge. Criminals have rights on all modern legal systems, exactly to restrict use of force to authorities and prevent this kind of self-decided vigilantism.
I don't see how Microsoft's activation schemes are equal, because even though you may not be able to start that particular copy of XP+ again if you don't activate it, nothing prevents you from using any number of tools (like Linux, or w2k, or probably even the XP recovery console) to read the data from that partition, it's not like they encrypt it when it breaks.
carbon will always exceed silicon in abundance by orders of magnitude, as it's one of the end products of the triple-alpha process
That's true for the universe in general, but that doesn't mean it's always true on every place that could possibly bear life. Let's take the only place we know for certain life exists in, yup, that's Earth. Guess what? Silicon is orders of magnitude more abundant than carbon on/in this ball of rock.
Earth is basically made of iron, oxygen, silicon (15.2% by mass, that's a lot) and magnesium. Nickel and sulfur get a special mention by managing to stay over one percent.
And that's pretty much it, others, including carbon, are insignificant trace materials, and that's pretty fricking huge amount of Si we have here.
Silicon based life is probably quite unlikely but that's mostly because of the long chain instability others keep mentioning and not because there's not enough silicon.
It has nothing to do with "scaling well", doing a full conversion of a major dynamic site from old HTML and tables to XHTML/CSS is a lot harder than changing one flat page.
That may be so, but they could at least try to make it output valid HTML 3.2 if we're stuck with the old HTML. Should be much easier than a total redesign with XHTML and CSS.
It's the table layout, not the theme. They "bleed" into each other on Mozilla, but Konq handles it just fine.
What everyone is after with "it theme" is the color scheme of that table layout, which makes our eyes bleed. And no, it's ugliness doesn't have anything to do with Mozilla or Konq, both show the horror.
There's a problem right there! Yes, it is more difficult to program frameworks that load/unload plugins dynamically, but it certainly is possible.
Well, I wouldn't call it "more difficult" since apparently Gecko can already do it, with simple "javascript:navigator.plugins.refresh(true)", works fine as a bookmarklet.
Seems like putting something like this in by default should be very easy, it's just a piece of javascript after all... The plugin installer could show a page with refresh script after it has installed the plugin.
If you install it as the default browser, then it breaks updates (completely for Office).
What do you mean by that? Just tried, FF is the default browser, Office update does still launch IE (as it should, since it's depending on features only present in IE).
It's brilliant. It's simple. I can't think of a single downside beyond "will people think to look for it there". Kudos to the Firefox team.
I can, and you haven't looked for the downsides (or ever used taf) very hard if you can't see them... In fact, I hate it. At the moment, that is, it has potential and I believe these will be fixed but it's far from perfect at the moment.
It regresses type-ahead find, badly. For example, I can't just start typing and get links-only search, even if the all necessary settings are set up correctly, the search bar breaks it and only allows "full" search by default, I explicitly need to click ' to get the damn links search.
I'd be also sometimes nice to have same search phrase remembered "across" tabs, but I can see how this might also cause problems... however, the old search dialog did, and thus it should, considering people are used to that. Or possibly another shortcut for "browser-wide" or "window-wide" searches.
If you're going to have all the nice X.org compositing in it, then it will require X.org not xfree86 and anyway, in all probality, will break a lot of older apps
Supporting the new X stuff doesn't mean requiring it, which they wouldn't do anyway since it would break all older Unix platforms that don't yet have newest flashy multimedia toys from Linux.
Breaking old apps is the main criteria for major version jump, and it probably won't do that.
Hey, it's fixed in the trunk. I believe the fix will be in 1.0 final.
Not necessarily so, it doesn't block 1.0 so it's not guaranteed to be fixed in it, it might be but last comments in the bug suggest there still might be some regressions so it won't go into big release like 1.0 if they're not absolutely sure it won't break anything else.
So it's not automatically in until the next branch, whenever that is. 1.1?
Copyright violation for personal use (nonprofit) is damn certainly NOT open to criminal charges, and even civil ones would result in so puny (if any) compensation they'd be vastly dwarfed by legal costs.
There's a reason even RIAA, MPAA, BSA & co. who do have resources for court battles only go after the people who share, and other corps, you don't get anything from private users.
Any excuse is a good excuse for getting rid of RPM.
Mind to point a better replacement, or even a reason? Source does not count, so save your gentoo zealotism. Technically DPKG is on the same level with RPM, so it does not do either.
First of all, RPM puts you in dependency hell.
Yeah, it does, it's supposed to, that's the goddamn primary JOB of a package manager. "Dependency hell" is tedious if you need to resolve them by hand one by one, but apps such as yum, up2date and apt-rpm have automated that for years now.
Second of all, there's no reason whatsoever that we can't just do away with RPM tomorrow.
Third and most important, there's no reason (such as a working and better package manager existing) whatsoever to DO away with RPM, unless "we can" is a valid reason, which it isn't.
Not necessarily, not if you approach the problem a bit differently. On an RPM-based system, the goal is to get a new RPM downloaded, right? Well, you can apply binary diffs to the RPMs themselves instead of to the files they contain. Then you can keep, say, foo-1.3-i386.rpm and use binary diffs to deliver foo-1.4-i386.rpm to your system.
The problem with that is that you need to keep the RPM's themselves in addition to files they contain, which can add to a quite a lot of wasted disk space on modern distro.
No big deal for someone running an update server, but it's not an optimal solution for desktop user or anything like that.
Now, I don't know whether the RPM format includes compression as a built-in thing, but even if it does
It does, RPM packages are gzip compressed cpio archives.
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And you electric vehicle assholes, where do you think your pollution is going.
Same place your gas guzzlers pollution is going. Air. Fact is, the bigger the plant, the better the efficiency, and vastly more easier to filter. Which means, less pollution for the same amount of energy.
It's being made at those big electric power plants like Navajo in Arizona and YOU ARE CLOUDING MY GRAND CANYON and CHOKING the poor Native Americans with you F^CKING POLLUTION!!
No, it's being made at those big electric power plants everywhere on the planet, you know they really haven't concentrated the power production of the whole world in Arizona to piss of those poor native americans. Nice spin, though, but you might consider making it little less transparent...
File a bug.
Seriously, give it a whirl, maybe someone just though it'd be a nice idea to put it there, and didn't stop to think about the fact that you don't need to agree to the license to use it.
Huh? It's not like they pulled this off from thin air yesterday, it's been going on for years.
Unless of course mozilla.org gets hacked...
In which case it obviously doesn't matter any more, because the bad guys could just replace the main mozilla downloads with backdoored version instead of trying to get us to download an extension.
Nope. My virus scanner said specifically that it didn't touch that file because it was my inbox.
Well, it's obviously lying to you.
I bet you can't reproduce this without the virus scanner running, not that you care because you're made your mind. Because the thing most likely guilty said it's not the bad guy, so it obviously must be thunderbird...
Switch to less braindead virus scanner, problem solved. Which one is it, btw, so others know to stay away?
Tolerance? Does that mean we should tolerate evil? How about injustice? Tyranny?
... Were our founders wrong?
You claim to be a preacher. You should know that according to the Book, answer to all those is big and resounding YES.
If you seem them, you should try to make a change, but not by becoming just as evil yourself, but by showing example.
You seem to think so. If those rights are indeed inherent and inalienable, you obviously can't in any way give them to someone, or force them to someone, because they already have them. It's their own choice whether or to use those "god-given" rights.
Also keep in mind, that your founders were just people. Just like you are. Just like Bush is. Just like all those folks you're slaughtering are. The equal part, remember?
The system isn't flawed because people don't vote.
It may not be flawed, but it certainly isn't democracy, even representational, either if people don't vote.
Do you really think that George W. Bush and John F. Kerry would be the candidates if say 80% of people that could vote would vote?
No, they wouldn't. And you think that ISN'T a problem? Instead of getting a president most people would take, it selects a candidate that 20% people like (if even them, they may just feel obligated to vote, to try to pick the lesser evil from the only two options forced on them).
What comes to lack of viable third alternative... of course there are no viable third alternatives, as long as the people are brainwashed to believe they can not possibly get anyone if it isn't from the "big two" then they won't.
The rats themselves do not carry diseases (they are clean animals)
Of course they do, every animal, no matter how clean, has it's own fair share of diseases, some of which are capable of being transmitted to other species, sometimes including humans.
Rats (and rodents in general) may not be any more filthy than other animals, but they pose a problem because they're more common in inhabited areas, and come in contact with humans (and perhaps more importantly) and human foodstuffs quite often. You don't want shit and piss in your food, no matter how cleanly the animal who did that lives.
the fleas that live on them do - ala the Black Death in Europe during the middle ages.
The Black Death is not the only rat-bound disease (see for example leptospirosis, cryptosporidiosis and hantavirus for diseases where rat is direct carrier), and even though it's not the direct vector in that case, it's still a carrier - no rats means no fleas.
Until the Gmail invite tree spreads far enough to cover most of the general public, there won't be enough people able to test this.
Seeing that each new person seems to get six invites within a week of joining, the tree is really spreading quite fast at this point already.
Milk is about 90% water, in case you hadn't guessed.
I don't know whether that particular configuration has been observed experimentally though.
It has
Now, if someone were dumb enough to come forward and say "this software I stole did something nasty to my computer," they might very well make an exception...
They might. However, unlike the distributors, folks making the software could hardly claim they've suffered more damages than the price of software, which was, $20.
It's certainly not a common case of extortion
Well, comparisons hardly ever work, but let's try, if you borrow your neighbours hammer (or other relatively cheap item) and "forget" to return it, it's basically a theft, if your neighbour now steals your car, which is thousands of times more expensive, and holds it ransom until you return the hammer, you don't think that would count as an extortion? If you bring it to court, the original thief MIGHT get something, but it'd be very small and puny compared to the one that makes a bigger crime to revenge. Criminals have rights on all modern legal systems, exactly to restrict use of force to authorities and prevent this kind of self-decided vigilantism.
I don't see how Microsoft's activation schemes are equal, because even though you may not be able to start that particular copy of XP+ again if you don't activate it, nothing prevents you from using any number of tools (like Linux, or w2k, or probably even the XP recovery console) to read the data from that partition, it's not like they encrypt it when it breaks.
carbon will always exceed silicon in abundance by orders of magnitude, as it's one of the end products of the triple-alpha process
That's true for the universe in general, but that doesn't mean it's always true on every place that could possibly bear life. Let's take the only place we know for certain life exists in, yup, that's Earth. Guess what? Silicon is orders of magnitude more abundant than carbon on/in this ball of rock.
Earth is basically made of iron, oxygen, silicon (15.2% by mass, that's a lot) and magnesium. Nickel and sulfur get a special mention by managing to stay over one percent.
And that's pretty much it, others, including carbon, are insignificant trace materials, and that's pretty fricking huge amount of Si we have here.
Silicon based life is probably quite unlikely but that's mostly because of the long chain instability others keep mentioning and not because there's not enough silicon.
I just tried it in Firefox 0.9.3.
Well, sure it works in 0.9.3 because the search bar thingy we're talking about was included in 0.10PR.
It has nothing to do with "scaling well", doing a full conversion of a major dynamic site from old HTML and tables to XHTML/CSS is a lot harder than changing one flat page.
That may be so, but they could at least try to make it output valid HTML 3.2 if we're stuck with the old HTML. Should be much easier than a total redesign with XHTML and CSS.
It's the table layout, not the theme. They "bleed" into each other on Mozilla, but Konq handles it just fine.
What everyone is after with "it theme" is the color scheme of that table layout, which makes our eyes bleed. And no, it's ugliness doesn't have anything to do with Mozilla or Konq, both show the horror.
There's a problem right there! Yes, it is more difficult to program frameworks that load/unload plugins dynamically, but it certainly is possible.
Well, I wouldn't call it "more difficult" since apparently Gecko can already do it, with simple "javascript:navigator.plugins.refresh(true)", works fine as a bookmarklet.
Seems like putting something like this in by default should be very easy, it's just a piece of javascript after all... The plugin installer could show a page with refresh script after it has installed the plugin.
If you install it as the default browser, then it breaks updates (completely for Office).
What do you mean by that? Just tried, FF is the default browser, Office update does still launch IE (as it should, since it's depending on features only present in IE).
It's brilliant. It's simple. I can't think of a single downside beyond "will people think to look for it there". Kudos to the Firefox team.
I can, and you haven't looked for the downsides (or ever used taf) very hard if you can't see them... In fact, I hate it. At the moment, that is, it has potential and I believe these will be fixed but it's far from perfect at the moment.
It regresses type-ahead find, badly. For example, I can't just start typing and get links-only search, even if the all necessary settings are set up correctly, the search bar breaks it and only allows "full" search by default, I explicitly need to click ' to get the damn links search.
I'd be also sometimes nice to have same search phrase remembered "across" tabs, but I can see how this might also cause problems... however, the old search dialog did, and thus it should, considering people are used to that. Or possibly another shortcut for "browser-wide" or "window-wide" searches.
If you're going to have all the nice X.org compositing in it, then it will require X.org not xfree86 and anyway, in all probality, will break a lot of older apps
Supporting the new X stuff doesn't mean requiring it, which they wouldn't do anyway since it would break all older Unix platforms that don't yet have newest flashy multimedia toys from Linux.
Breaking old apps is the main criteria for major version jump, and it probably won't do that.
Hey, it's fixed in the trunk. I believe the fix will be in 1.0 final.
Not necessarily so, it doesn't block 1.0 so it's not guaranteed to be fixed in it, it might be but last comments in the bug suggest there still might be some regressions so it won't go into big release like 1.0 if they're not absolutely sure it won't break anything else.
So it's not automatically in until the next branch, whenever that is. 1.1?
Copyright violation for personal use (nonprofit) is damn certainly NOT open to criminal charges, and even civil ones would result in so puny (if any) compensation they'd be vastly dwarfed by legal costs.
There's a reason even RIAA, MPAA, BSA & co. who do have resources for court battles only go after the people who share, and other corps, you don't get anything from private users.
You don't even need to use JavaScript, image rollovers are quite possible with pure CSS.
Any excuse is a good excuse for getting rid of
RPM.
Mind to point a better replacement, or even a reason? Source does not count, so save your gentoo zealotism. Technically DPKG is on the same level with RPM, so it does not do either.
First of all, RPM puts you in dependency hell.
Yeah, it does, it's supposed to, that's the goddamn primary JOB of a package manager. "Dependency hell" is tedious if you need to resolve them by hand one by one, but apps such as yum, up2date and apt-rpm have automated that for years now.
Second of all, there's no reason whatsoever that we can't just do away with RPM tomorrow.
Third and most important, there's no reason (such as a working and better package manager existing) whatsoever to DO away with RPM, unless "we can" is a valid reason, which it isn't.
Not necessarily, not if you approach the problem a bit differently. On an RPM-based system, the goal is to get a new RPM downloaded, right? Well, you can apply binary diffs to the RPMs themselves instead of to the files they contain. Then you can keep, say, foo-1.3-i386.rpm and use binary diffs to deliver foo-1.4-i386.rpm to your system.
The problem with that is that you need to keep the RPM's themselves in addition to files they contain, which can add to a quite a lot of wasted disk space on modern distro.
No big deal for someone running an update server, but it's not an optimal solution for desktop user or anything like that.
Now, I don't know whether the RPM format includes compression as a built-in thing, but even if it does
It does, RPM packages are gzip compressed cpio archives.