if the prices aren't going to be anywhere near the old video days ($1.99-2.99/1-2days for new releases and $0.99/5days for old stuff), why bother? only a retard would rent a movie for $5, unless perhaps, it was within a month of theatrical release.
hdmi cables from amazon or amazon sellers should never be more than $1-4 (for like 3-6') with another $3-4 for shipping. at least thats what i've always paid. even the "cheap" ones in retail stores (~$20) are a ripoff.
what about hollywood accounting? renting anything (cameras, lights,etc) from a subsidiary is fucking sickening and those costs are completely fabricated. if they are bullshitting about that, what other lies are they telling?
no shit. i was watching a blu-ray the other week and the ad was lauding the benefits of fucking blu-ray. i know! i am using the technology ffs! goddamn adception.
region restrictions are about control and nothing more.
basically it goes like this:
1. movies are not distributed globally at the same time. when movies are being released for the home video market in america, they are still being released in theaters elsewhere. they want to maximize their profits by staggering the releases (get both the theater ticket and home video sales).
2. movies are not priced the same globally. if you were allowed to import $5 dvds from some other country, you could sell them at $10. thereby both making a nice profit and also undercutting their $20 dvds.
the internet has gotten rid of a lot of barriers and by now they should be doing stuff globally at the same time, but that would interfere with their money, so this is what we have.
as to the rest of the conversation, sure blu-rays can be a little more pricey, especially with new releases. however, out of the 68 blu-rays i own, about a third were $10 or under, new. i got the die hard 4 pack onsale at amazon for like $12. then there is the second hand market. blu-ray is much better quality than any streaming service i have used (hulu, netflix, vudu, cable tv), master source depending, of course. my player was a little over $100, but it also has app (netflix, hulu) capabilities, does way better [up]scaling than any player i've tried on my pc, and supports xvid, mp4 and mkv, as well as, dlna streams.
as far as the regions thing goes i was strictly talking about entertainment media. no more region coding. no more staggered releases to maximize profit.
so my "digital copy" which says i can only play it in windows media player or itunes/idevice has no legal basis, and me getting a working copy from the net is good to go. thanks for clearing that up.
fine, but they must add these little stipends:
1. reasonable copyright limits. no one should be able to milk a work for their entire life. 10-15 years, maximum.
2. to be protected, the product must be available for purchase. fuck that out of print (or worse, back in the vault) bullshit in this digital age.
3. get rid of all regions. this is the internet age and old school barriers have no place in it. play globally or gtfo.
4. make the purchased media easier to use than the pirated goods. this includes format shifting. digital is digital, double and triple dipping can diaf.
5. make the recording and archiving of television as easy as vcrs were. i can timeshift into the next decade if i so choose.
6. cutting out the middle men (pressing, packaging, shipping, retail logistics) should cut the prices of digital distribution in at least half, if not more.
once these are met, the playing field becomes more even. they don't get to have their cake and eat it too. i buy plenty, but i also download every tv show i watch, as i come from a generation that is used to being able to record and keep anything i am subscribed to. just because they found a new revenue stream (tv on dvd) and put up many roadblocks to record the stuff (disabling firewire on dvrs and such), doesn't mean i'm going to stop hoarding my media. broadcast quality, lack of generational degradation, and ease of reproduction have no place in this discussion, btw.
that is just the base cost, then they sell you the rest as dlc. it's pretty pathetic that they sell these map packs and such, when they used to be a freebie for pc gamers. when consoles started getting the ability to download content, it all changed. now, even pc gamers are having to pay for this garbage. how many console games are now rushed out with more bugs, that would've been previously unacceptable, now that they just patch them? pc games are less moddable than before, too. great path this industry is going down.
if you have a subscription, you've already paid for it. because i grew up in a time when i could record what was on tv and keep that copy for as long as i wanted, i have very strong feelings about tv entertainment. quality, ease of replication, lack of degradation, and that they are now making money on tv on dvd/blu-ray is 100% non-pertinent to the discussion.
they cripple the firewire on dvrs, ffs, when i should be able to copy any and all recordings over and do with them what i like, but somehow i'm the pirate for going and downloading said content? if i bought 100 computers and 100 capture cards, should that even matter? i once wrote of the "subscriber-capture paradox", where after something has aired and you are a subscriber, then you should really have no qualms about getting a copy by any means necessary, as you could do it yourself with the right equipment. anything gotten before airing become legit after it has aired.
i'd argue that, say comcast's xfinity tv site, hulu, or anything similar, doesn't cut it as there is no guarantee it will be available when you want to watch it. hell, even if you believe that the sony case allowing vcrs was solely for timeshifting, where does that time end? i may want to watch this season's offerings in 37 years. so, yeah, it is easier. it is currently the only way (for me), but i do pay for the whole gamut of channels, so i don't mean that it is free.
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if the prices aren't going to be anywhere near the old video days ($1.99-2.99/1-2days for new releases and $0.99/5days for old stuff), why bother? only a retard would rent a movie for $5, unless perhaps, it was within a month of theatrical release.
what if they bought the mp3s at your lower cost and then resold them at a higher one? just saying'.
i hope they keep this up and running
hdmi cables from amazon or amazon sellers should never be more than $1-4 (for like 3-6') with another $3-4 for shipping. at least thats what i've always paid. even the "cheap" ones in retail stores (~$20) are a ripoff.
what about their own games then?
when will i be able to use any input for picture in picture overlay? it shouldn't be that hard to do.
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that's what i meant. wasn't the re-entry before some other company licensing the name with the same bullshit facade?
what about hollywood accounting? renting anything (cameras, lights,etc) from a subsidiary is fucking sickening and those costs are completely fabricated. if they are bullshitting about that, what other lies are they telling?
no shit. i was watching a blu-ray the other week and the ad was lauding the benefits of fucking blu-ray. i know! i am using the technology ffs! goddamn adception.
region restrictions are about control and nothing more.
basically it goes like this:
1. movies are not distributed globally at the same time. when movies are being released for the home video market in america, they are still being released in theaters elsewhere. they want to maximize their profits by staggering the releases (get both the theater ticket and home video sales).
2. movies are not priced the same globally. if you were allowed to import $5 dvds from some other country, you could sell them at $10. thereby both making a nice profit and also undercutting their $20 dvds.
the internet has gotten rid of a lot of barriers and by now they should be doing stuff globally at the same time, but that would interfere with their money, so this is what we have.
as to the rest of the conversation, sure blu-rays can be a little more pricey, especially with new releases. however, out of the 68 blu-rays i own, about a third were $10 or under, new. i got the die hard 4 pack onsale at amazon for like $12. then there is the second hand market. blu-ray is much better quality than any streaming service i have used (hulu, netflix, vudu, cable tv), master source depending, of course. my player was a little over $100, but it also has app (netflix, hulu) capabilities, does way better [up]scaling than any player i've tried on my pc, and supports xvid, mp4 and mkv, as well as, dlna streams.
i swear they tried to re-enter the market like 8-10 years ago, also to lackluster reception. wtf is wrong with these people?
Children's Week isn't until next month, you insensitive clod!
as far as the regions thing goes i was strictly talking about entertainment media. no more region coding. no more staggered releases to maximize profit.
so my "digital copy" which says i can only play it in windows media player or itunes/idevice has no legal basis, and me getting a working copy from the net is good to go. thanks for clearing that up.
fine, but they must add these little stipends:
1. reasonable copyright limits. no one should be able to milk a work for their entire life. 10-15 years, maximum.
2. to be protected, the product must be available for purchase. fuck that out of print (or worse, back in the vault) bullshit in this digital age.
3. get rid of all regions. this is the internet age and old school barriers have no place in it. play globally or gtfo.
4. make the purchased media easier to use than the pirated goods. this includes format shifting. digital is digital, double and triple dipping can diaf.
5. make the recording and archiving of television as easy as vcrs were. i can timeshift into the next decade if i so choose.
6. cutting out the middle men (pressing, packaging, shipping, retail logistics) should cut the prices of digital distribution in at least half, if not more.
once these are met, the playing field becomes more even. they don't get to have their cake and eat it too. i buy plenty, but i also download every tv show i watch, as i come from a generation that is used to being able to record and keep anything i am subscribed to. just because they found a new revenue stream (tv on dvd) and put up many roadblocks to record the stuff (disabling firewire on dvrs and such), doesn't mean i'm going to stop hoarding my media. broadcast quality, lack of generational degradation, and ease of reproduction have no place in this discussion, btw.
the moment we have full-scale mass replicators, every tangible goods industry will be changed forever.
so i can open a burger joint called mcdonald's if that is my surname?
that is just the base cost, then they sell you the rest as dlc. it's pretty pathetic that they sell these map packs and such, when they used to be a freebie for pc gamers. when consoles started getting the ability to download content, it all changed. now, even pc gamers are having to pay for this garbage. how many console games are now rushed out with more bugs, that would've been previously unacceptable, now that they just patch them? pc games are less moddable than before, too. great path this industry is going down.
i was simply replying to the alleged lack of 300 disc dvd players, which i knew existed.
if you have a subscription, you've already paid for it. because i grew up in a time when i could record what was on tv and keep that copy for as long as i wanted, i have very strong feelings about tv entertainment. quality, ease of replication, lack of degradation, and that they are now making money on tv on dvd/blu-ray is 100% non-pertinent to the discussion.
they cripple the firewire on dvrs, ffs, when i should be able to copy any and all recordings over and do with them what i like, but somehow i'm the pirate for going and downloading said content? if i bought 100 computers and 100 capture cards, should that even matter? i once wrote of the "subscriber-capture paradox", where after something has aired and you are a subscriber, then you should really have no qualms about getting a copy by any means necessary, as you could do it yourself with the right equipment. anything gotten before airing become legit after it has aired.
i'd argue that, say comcast's xfinity tv site, hulu, or anything similar, doesn't cut it as there is no guarantee it will be available when you want to watch it. hell, even if you believe that the sony case allowing vcrs was solely for timeshifting, where does that time end? i may want to watch this season's offerings in 37 years. so, yeah, it is easier. it is currently the only way (for me), but i do pay for the whole gamut of channels, so i don't mean that it is free.
what, like this?
i'm surprised lucasfilm hasn't sent out the lawyer gestapo and shut this down.
and i thought the 'digital copy' codes that ship with dvds/blu-rays was a fail idea. this takes the cake (and eats it, too, apparently).
i wonder how ebooks will play into this. if the new edition is merely bug fixes, should there even be an upgrade cost?