This article sounds so very 1998ish, when the FUD machines were pumping at full speed.
It seems these days the thing most nearly approaching FUD out of MS is statistics. You know - those banner ads stating that Windows is 11-22% cheaper to operate than Linux.
I rather take exception to his ignorance of the ability of the American marketplace to adapt.
There are 2 things that I believe in response to the article:
1) The american IT sector can and will adapt - cheaper programmers, and better programmers. The outsourcing is an indication of the NEED to adapt, and the response is forthcoming.
2) The uproar is BECAUSE IT'S HAPPENING TO FAST. The economy will suffer from wholesale outsourcing. It's a _drastic_ change in cash circulation. The US labor market can't adapt that quickly either. It can't synthesize new jobs fast enough, and the american IT sector can't adapt to meet the cheaper-better labor demand, with the rate that jobs are leaving.
I respect your opinion and agree that there are such people in the open source community.
As for SCO/Darl, it's hard not to get ticked at him. He's like a Barny the purpl dinosaur - friendly on the surface, but somehow dark and disturbing, inciting people to unexplainable violent rages.
Thinking about the OSS community and the Corporate environment, I've come to a conclusion.
The corporate community fights legal battles, appeals to the law for redress.
The OSS community fights PR battles, and appeals to the world, and indirectly, the customer base for redress.
Think about the OSS projects that have had code ripped off - they let the company know that there may be misuse of Open Source code. If they get an unfavorable response, the make an announcement, they add the company to their "blacklist", and suddenly a very large group of consumers has been activated against them.
The whole OSS movement operates within the Social Conscience. It's the fact that there exists a social conscience in this world that it works in the first place. It's the companies without a social conscience that cause problems. It's the companies with a social conscience that benefit from the OSS model.
On a side note, I'm just amazed by IBM's social conscience. It's plain how few companies there are that recognize opportunities to invest in community for the benefit of the company and the community.
what I gather from some acquaintances who do driver development, didn't so much converge as they did confuse. The new driver model is a spaghetti mess that allowed them to make minimal changes to the 9x driver model, and minimal changes to the NT driver model so a driver would work on both, but not without creating a pretty big mess, first. But let me repeat - this is what I understand from talking to some developers, this is not personal knowledge.
well, except for the API change from 95 to 95 w/USB, 95 to 98, 98 to 98SE, 98SE to ME.
Then there's the NT line.
The driver model changed slightly with each revision in the 9x line, and not necessarily in a core area.
And under linux, although the ABI may change from minor version to minor version, it IS just a simple compile against the different headers (for, I suspect, not all, but the majority of cases).
Really, the ideal thing for nVidia would be for THEM to publish an API (not necessarily full docs for the chips, just hooks into the binary), and for the hacker/enthusiast community to link it into the kernel. At least, that seems ideal to me.
The procedures of how personal data is being handled during WSIS break the principles of the Swiss Federal Law on Data Protection of June 1992 [2], the European Union Data Protection Directive 95/46/EC [3] and the United Nation guidelines concerning Computerized personal data files adopted by the General Assembly on December 1990.
They said "how the data is being handled", they didn't elaborate more, and I'm not qualified to speculate on the legality of anything. My objective was more to restate rather than reinforce the original article.
having used the internet quite a lot before the "invention" of HTML, I find your statement uninformed. We had a world wide web before the world wide web - it was called gopher. It didn't have graphics or blink tags, or even a choice of fonts, but darnit! We liked it anyway! IIRC it had something resembling hyperlinks, which with or without this "a European guy" (I've never heard the story of the invention of HTML), would have evolved just like everything else on the internet.
Oh yeah - what made the internet useful when I was a kid. Usenet, of course - you have user communities and support forums on the web - that was all on Usenet. ftp - downloading games and a few shareware productivity programs that made windows 2.0 just a little bit nicer. e-mail, not that I at that age had anyone to email, but it was there. And those are just the things that my little 9 year old self had contact with, there were all kinds of unix utilities that used the internet (or networks of one sort or another) to do useful, productive things.
I agree. There aren't many organizations that would be a poorer choice for governing the internet, but if I understand correctly, that is EXACTLY what WSIS is intended to be doing.
I don't think the purpose of the writeup is to give m4d pr0pz to the 133t m34tsp4c3 haxxorz. It seems to me that the points they were trying to get across were:
1) These people have little concern for security, seeing as how they didn't even comply with the multiple applicable laws governing that sort of conference 2) These people have little concern for privacy, again, as they didn't comply with multiple applicable laws on the matter 3) Their ineptitude could possibly be opening these people for extortion or blackmail, or even endangering their lives. 4) These are the people who are deciding how the internet is going to be governed
Actually, I think ol' Bill looks eerily like Cigarette Smoking Man from X-Files, with those glasses. I think a counter-spoof against Microsoft would be quite in order. The MS-SCO connection, aliens trying to undermine society and technology by force-feeding the world substandard software with draconian EULAs.
In Provo. They sell fiber connections that see about 22Mbps throughput for $600/mo to complexes. Haven't heard anything about digital TV or phone service on them yet, but then again, we're not Salt Lake.
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To the death!
No! To the pain!
I don't think I'm quite sure I'm familiar with that phrase.
I think what they need is a nice User Friendly abacus.
Yeah - try coordinating a DDoS from that!
That's "harrumph" you insensitive codger!
yeah, well, they don't have versions of mozilla new enough to use adblock on my university campus.
Agreed.
This article sounds so very 1998ish, when the FUD machines were pumping at full speed.
It seems these days the thing most nearly approaching FUD out of MS is statistics. You know - those banner ads stating that Windows is 11-22% cheaper to operate than Linux.
mmmmmm... nucleic donut
If that's what I were saying, then it wouldn't be unexplainable, now would it?
I rather take exception to his ignorance of the ability of the American marketplace to adapt.
There are 2 things that I believe in response to the article:
1) The american IT sector can and will adapt - cheaper programmers, and better programmers. The outsourcing is an indication of the NEED to adapt, and the response is forthcoming.
2) The uproar is BECAUSE IT'S HAPPENING TO FAST. The economy will suffer from wholesale outsourcing. It's a _drastic_ change in cash circulation. The US labor market can't adapt that quickly either. It can't synthesize new jobs fast enough, and the american IT sector can't adapt to meet the cheaper-better labor demand, with the rate that jobs are leaving.
I respect your opinion and agree that there are such people in the open source community.
As for SCO/Darl, it's hard not to get ticked at him. He's like a Barny the purpl dinosaur - friendly on the surface, but somehow dark and disturbing, inciting people to unexplainable violent rages.
Thinking about the OSS community and the Corporate environment, I've come to a conclusion.
The corporate community fights legal battles, appeals to the law for redress.
The OSS community fights PR battles, and appeals to the world, and indirectly, the customer base for redress.
Think about the OSS projects that have had code ripped off - they let the company know that there may be misuse of Open Source code. If they get an unfavorable response, the make an announcement, they add the company to their "blacklist", and suddenly a very large group of consumers has been activated against them.
The whole OSS movement operates within the Social Conscience. It's the fact that there exists a social conscience in this world that it works in the first place. It's the companies without a social conscience that cause problems. It's the companies with a social conscience that benefit from the OSS model.
On a side note, I'm just amazed by IBM's social conscience. It's plain how few companies there are that recognize opportunities to invest in community for the benefit of the company and the community.
as far as I can tell - a friendly UI is ALL about nitpickiness. That's what takes a UI from good to smooth.
what I gather from some acquaintances who do driver development, didn't so much converge as they did confuse. The new driver model is a spaghetti mess that allowed them to make minimal changes to the 9x driver model, and minimal changes to the NT driver model so a driver would work on both, but not without creating a pretty big mess, first. But let me repeat - this is what I understand from talking to some developers, this is not personal knowledge.
well, except for the API change from 95 to 95 w/USB, 95 to 98, 98 to 98SE, 98SE to ME.
Then there's the NT line.
The driver model changed slightly with each revision in the 9x line, and not necessarily in a core area.
And under linux, although the ABI may change from minor version to minor version, it IS just a simple compile against the different headers (for, I suspect, not all, but the majority of cases).
Really, the ideal thing for nVidia would be for THEM to publish an API (not necessarily full docs for the chips, just hooks into the binary), and for the hacker/enthusiast community to link it into the kernel. At least, that seems ideal to me.
From the article:
The procedures of how personal data is being handled during WSIS break the principles of the Swiss Federal Law on Data Protection of June 1992 [2], the European Union Data Protection Directive 95/46/EC [3] and the United Nation guidelines concerning Computerized personal data files adopted by the General Assembly on December 1990.
They said "how the data is being handled", they didn't elaborate more, and I'm not qualified to speculate on the legality of anything. My objective was more to restate rather than reinforce the original article.
having used the internet quite a lot before the "invention" of HTML, I find your statement uninformed. We had a world wide web before the world wide web - it was called gopher. It didn't have graphics or blink tags, or even a choice of fonts, but darnit! We liked it anyway! IIRC it had something resembling hyperlinks, which with or without this "a European guy" (I've never heard the story of the invention of HTML), would have evolved just like everything else on the internet.
Oh yeah - what made the internet useful when I was a kid. Usenet, of course - you have user communities and support forums on the web - that was all on Usenet. ftp - downloading games and a few shareware productivity programs that made windows 2.0 just a little bit nicer. e-mail, not that I at that age had anyone to email, but it was there. And those are just the things that my little 9 year old self had contact with, there were all kinds of unix utilities that used the internet (or networks of one sort or another) to do useful, productive things.
I agree. There aren't many organizations that would be a poorer choice for governing the internet, but if I understand correctly, that is EXACTLY what WSIS is intended to be doing.
I don't think the purpose of the writeup is to give m4d pr0pz to the 133t m34tsp4c3 haxxorz. It seems to me that the points they were trying to get across were:
1) These people have little concern for security, seeing as how they didn't even comply with the multiple applicable laws governing that sort of conference
2) These people have little concern for privacy, again, as they didn't comply with multiple applicable laws on the matter
3) Their ineptitude could possibly be opening these people for extortion or blackmail, or even endangering their lives.
4) These are the people who are deciding how the internet is going to be governed
It's even better than that.
The security at the conference is weak, and they're collecting personal data while they navigate the conference.
I think they've pretty much proven they're the wrong people for the job.
except that SCO claims it's a DDOS. Which is part of the reason they find SCO's claims lacking merit.
That was my first instinct, too, and I still believe it.
I don't think any political body should manage the infrastructure of the internet, not even an international political body like the UN.
I don't think any commercial organization should manage the internet unregulated, either.
I think the current system works fine, it just requires better regulation.
I think the point is this isn't a portable mp3 player device, but more of a flexible home mp3 player.
it's apparently a limitation of the renderer - Eye of Gnome opens it fine, even though Mozilla won't render it.
I wouldn't be surprised if it surpassed some maximum pixel width in the rendering engine or something.
See earlier post - successor to greased weasel will be clean shaven beaver
Actually, I think ol' Bill looks eerily like Cigarette Smoking Man from X-Files, with those glasses. I think a counter-spoof against Microsoft would be quite in order. The MS-SCO connection, aliens trying to undermine society and technology by force-feeding the world substandard software with draconian EULAs.
In Provo. They sell fiber connections that see about 22Mbps throughput for $600/mo to complexes. Haven't heard anything about digital TV or phone service on them yet, but then again, we're not Salt Lake.