> Photographers, to use their pictures, must have the consent of everyone in the picture to distribute it.
Hmm, I forgot that they could just blur the face to hide the identity, causing it to be legitimate... oh well, doesn't matter to me, as (I'm no psychic, but I think I can speak with assurance on this one) I'll never be raping anyone, let alone photographing it.
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> would you say it's okay for me to be prosecuted for the rape, but my right to free speech means nobody should have the power to take the pictures down?
Except that a picture isn't speech. Even if you don't believe that line, the pictures would be of the commission of a felonious assault, and I believe, illegal. Since that is a stretch, let's step away from the actual subject. Photographers, to use their pictures, must have the consent of everyone in the picture to distribute it. Unless the rape victim did not consent to sex, but did consent to the pictures of it, the photos are illegal to distribute, AFAIK.
Yes, I know it was a troll, but it's still an interesting thought (the speech, not the rape).
Except my brother. And his wife. Oh, and our father. Come to think of it, most people like a good joke more than me, but that's neither here nor there.
I want to complain about the technical inaccuracy of this post. Actually, it's not inaccurate, but incomplete. The thing about network traffic is, when it's point-to-point, AFAIK, they all require handshaking/2-way communication. TCP over carrier pigeon would require multiple trips to achieve this, thus obliterating the one-way speed gains.
Of course I noticed that they didn't say it was TCP (Transmission Control Protocol), but TCP (Transmission by Carrier Pigeons), so 2-way may not be a necessity. Also, using pigeons would probably be better for verifying data integrity. Unfortunately, if the data is damaged, the whole procedure must be repeated, effectively tripling the total data transfer time -- assuming the sent pigeons must return before resending data.
Riiiiight. No one recognized it as a joke and there was nothing funny about.
> my massive intellectual superiority
You took country names, added an 's' to each one and said "ha ha Englands!"
> If this conversation had taken place in person, and I threw in that quip, you would likely just roll your eyes and carry on
No, actually, I would have insulted you IRL too. Don't think that just because YOU are a nicer person IRL, everyone else is -- they aren't. Regardless, you should have taken my post for sarcasm, which was obvious -- your "joke," OTOH was not.
> I guess being a faceless entity behind a keyboard really does give one false courage, because you would never respond that way to me in person.
As for the first part, sort of. What makes it false? The only reason a person has courage IRL is when they have a chance of success. If they don't have a chance of success, they can still be graceful in defeat, but courage? Hardly. As for the second part, yes, I would have responded in roughly the same way.
> since you don't really have a 'set'
Ah yes, you talk of my "anonymous courage" and then say that. What happened to staying on the moral high ground? I do, in fact have a "set" of balls, assuming that's what you meant. I have a pair, actually, but two is usually the quantity of testicles to have a complete set. They aren't gargantuan, but they are there and do their purpose.
And you said that I didn't get your joke? At least mine made sense. So, *nyah nyah nyah nyah naaaa*
It wasn't exactly a huge revelation, but some people (sometimes, especially the highly intelligent) have to be reminded of the simple ideas instead of making it overly-complex.
> If you can ever get something that looks nice in Print Preview on Mac OSX, you can export to PDF.
You specify "on Mac OSX" as if you can't do it in Windows. It may not be built-in (is it on the Mac?), but if you get a program like eDocPrinter PDF Pro, it's dirt simple.
> But it is the same thing as digging pointless trenches.
There is supposed to be this thing in your head called a brain. I suggest you see a doctor about it. By your "logic," when roads were built it was just pointless pavement placement. Building roads & rails adds infrastructure to the country, which makes travel more efficient, thus shipping is cheaper, means you can ship higher quantities faster -- result should be economic gain, over a long time.
> The fact is Americans like to drive big, inefficient cars
I didn't realize that there were no Asian (Honda, Acura, Mitsubishi, Kia, Hyundai, etc) cars sold in the U.S. Or Sunfires, Neons, Cavaliers.... The American cars may be slightly more inefficient, but the existence of MILLIONS of Hondas in the U.S. just adds proof to the hypothesis that you are a fucking anti-American smear-monger. You state "facts" that are not facts at all. Stop patting yourself on the back for insulting Americans, because when your insults are, in fact, lies, you lose all credibility (assuming you had any to begin with).
> the high gas prices because everyone else likes to drive gas-guzzling cars too
Hahaha!!! High gas prices??? Compared to inflation, gas prices are ridiculously low! Not only that, but U.S. gas prices are generally CHEAPER that European prices. Do you think about what you say before you say it, or do you just report to us information from your own reality?
Damn, your stupidity aggravates me. I guess that's why you became a troll -- you can't offer anything useful to any conversation.
> If America makes Americans, then it should be Mexicons, Canadans, Francens, and Englandns.
Oh wow, you are so smart pointing out inconsistencies of the English language. I had no idea there were any! Please be the mother of my children, I am truly in awe of your massive intellectual superiority. BTW, STFU.
> what does Gentoo do when, for example, two programs use the same library but use features that are exclusive to different versions of that library?
It should tell the user to kill the person that broke the library's backwards-compatibility. You might want to find newer versions of some of your software.
If you are a masochist, then going completely from source is the way to go. It's strange timing, but I'm trying to get squid & squidguard working together as a filtering proxy server, but lo & behold, it's all crap. Using Mandrake 10.0 (Community, of course), squid will install very nicely from source, as well as BerkeleyDB. SquidGuard, OTOH is a different beast entirely. I tried compiling it the first time, it said there was no BorkeleyDB installed (there was). I reinstalled DB, but SG still said it wasn't there. I even told it exactly where to find it (--with-db, --with-db-*) -- no dice, it still claims it's not there. So I decided to reinstall the OS... for some reason. Now, it found BerkeleyDB before it was even installed, but "make" dies when it tries to use db.h (something about wrong # of arguments). This is even more undocumented than the first error. I found three pages about the current error, 1 was in French, one was in German, 1 English -- all were message boards, none had answers.
Well, I used the squidGuard RPM, after bitching to an ignorant website owner who would not let anyone download the file if they changed the browser info string -- he said it was so Windows users couldn't get their hands on it. What a fucking moron, RPMs are useless for Windows users... Anyway, the cache buildng (squid -z) went fine, and I was able to add the redirect_children line, but the damned thing just starts up & shuts down without doing anything.
I opened the port (3128) during the second install in addition to ssh & ftp, but after it's done, all ports are shut down, there is no documentation to be found on how to open them up. Supposedly Shorewall should be the problem, but the ports are all open in it. At least I never had this problem in RedHat (but I certainly had others). Fuck you, Mandrake... Fuck you in your useless, nonfunctioning distro ass. And I had heard so many good things about Mandrake...
ANYWAY.... my point is this: compile from source only if you are able to build all of Linux from source (old slackware-style, no installer). If you can't do that, trying to install software from source is usually a waste of time -- it NEVER WORKS. I'm not saying that just because of this experience, but with experience from many different Intel/AMD PCs and 2 Sun SPARCs.
If you aren't already a fucking genius & can fix bugs in preexisting software, and aren't lucky as shit, use packages. It saves so much time, headache, and vocal cords since you won't be screaming obscenities at the poorly-designed compiler scripts.
Some packages are a bigger pain in the ass, though. If you decide to install any software by hand, you had better not rely on it in future package installs. As per my previous example, I had to install SG with the "--nodeps" option. If you hadn't installed the dependencies with the package installer, future installs will refuse to accept the possibility that the software might possibly already be installed (my only experience with this is RPMs, but this PITA hasn't changed since at least 1998).
Think Linux is really ready for the desktop? As soon as I can install any software like this without jumping through a million hoops and reading a dozen novels, it will be ready. Right now? Not. Fucking. Close.
Ummm... since "marginal cost" is entirely a human concept, a bird does not have any marginal cost at all -- not even zero cost. I've never thought that cost is what is meant by "free" in this phrase, though. I think it have more to do with freedom (liberty) -- either way, freedom has no real cost or even any real attirbutes. Information being free or unfree is meaningless, just as it would be to say "clouds want to be free."
> one can still quibble as to whether winning in the electoral college constitutes being "elected by the people."
No, there is no quibbling at all. My point is that there has never been a president "elected by the people." We have always had the electoral college for good reasons, most of which have not changed. If you graduated from High School, you should know this, yet people still bitch & moan about it. If you don't like a law, fine: work to change it. But the electoral college is a very fundamental part of the U.S. that is not currently replaceable, as there aren't any fundamentally & significantly better solutions available currently.
> Information wants to be free, we communicate for the purpose of telling one another how we feel, how we think, forming unity, or breaking it apart.
Read my sig. It's people that want things, and people certainly want it all for free, not information. Do you see a bird in the sky and say "birds want to be free?" No, the bird is flying -- just doing what it does. Information just is, and all it does is inform, it desires nothing. I have the desire to become informed, but for it to happen I must take the first step, as the information itself cannot.
> the next step will be to locate / isolate the DNA / RNA and check whether it conforms [...] if so, the next presumption is that the two forms have a common origin.
No, that is not the next presumption. I understand why you would think that, but just because two things are similar, it does not mean they are the same. What if the 4-base code is really the ideal way for life to grow? Then no matter where we found it, it would have it. So would we have to presume that all lifeforms we find similar to ours, regardless how far away, are all sharing ancestors? Certainly not.
> But I would never say these things, because I'd be afraid that some Anonymous Coward might post my unmunged email address. Congratulations to you, Mr. Republican Coward!
Get a clue, stop trolling (to the parent, GP too). A Democrat would do the same thing. Both of those parties and their followers are basically the same and "both sides" lack the same morality.
How the heck does this crap get rated insightful? It's redundant as hell! We've all heard it, we all know it's either bullshit or at least unchangeable. Give. it. up.
> That sure seemed to upset you! Somebody made you mad by pointing out AOL isn't for technological genius types... It will be ok.
Oh ho, ho! You are a master of genius wit and utter cluelessness. Not too quick, are you? I never showed any inclination (that means "tendency" in this case, although I should explain what that means too, since you're obviously a fucking dolt) of being upset, you just assumed that everyone gets their panties in a twist like you. Sorry, we don't all fly off the handle insulting others cluelessly. Or at least when we get mad, we get mad for a reason and put together a good (at least sensical) argument. You, sir, are not worth the bitch of a camel you came from.
> Ppl like guerilla solar started because of the run around they get from power companies in california and other places.
So these people started an organization because these damned companies wouldn't help them form an organization... that will make them less profit. Are you fucking retarded? Do you realize that this has absolutely nothing to do with anything on-topic? Are you a troll or something? Not a very good one. If you're gonna troll, at least be interesting.
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> If I had some bear arms, [...] I could probably lift cars
Well, at first. But since you don't have a bear back as well, your spine is likely to give out pretty quickly.
Additionally, haven't you ever heard the expression "lift with your legs?"
> An intent aware protocol is vitally important
A self-aware protocol, OTOH, is extremely dangerous, ala Terminator, Matrix, et al.
> Photographers, to use their pictures, must have the consent of everyone in the picture to distribute it.
Hmm, I forgot that they could just blur the face to hide the identity, causing it to be legitimate... oh well, doesn't matter to me, as (I'm no psychic, but I think I can speak with assurance on this one) I'll never be raping anyone, let alone photographing it.
> would you say it's okay for me to be prosecuted for the rape, but my right to free speech means nobody should have the power to take the pictures down?
Except that a picture isn't speech. Even if you don't believe that line, the pictures would be of the commission of a felonious assault, and I believe, illegal. Since that is a stretch, let's step away from the actual subject. Photographers, to use their pictures, must have the consent of everyone in the picture to distribute it. Unless the rape victim did not consent to sex, but did consent to the pictures of it, the photos are illegal to distribute, AFAIK.
Yes, I know it was a troll, but it's still an interesting thought (the speech, not the rape).
> ampersand+euro+dot-comma,
What the hell is a dot-comma? I'm assuming you mean a semicolon. €
Except my brother. And his wife. Oh, and our father. Come to think of it, most people like a good joke more than me, but that's neither here nor there.
I want to complain about the technical inaccuracy of this post. Actually, it's not inaccurate, but incomplete. The thing about network traffic is, when it's point-to-point, AFAIK, they all require handshaking/2-way communication. TCP over carrier pigeon would require multiple trips to achieve this, thus obliterating the one-way speed gains.
Of course I noticed that they didn't say it was TCP (Transmission Control Protocol), but TCP (Transmission by Carrier Pigeons), so 2-way may not be a necessity. Also, using pigeons would probably be better for verifying data integrity. Unfortunately, if the data is damaged, the whole procedure must be repeated, effectively tripling the total data transfer time -- assuming the sent pigeons must return before resending data.
> It was a ummm... joke
Riiiiight. No one recognized it as a joke and there was nothing funny about.
> my massive intellectual superiority
You took country names, added an 's' to each one and said "ha ha Englands!"
> If this conversation had taken place in person, and I threw in that quip, you would likely just roll your eyes and carry on
No, actually, I would have insulted you IRL too. Don't think that just because YOU are a nicer person IRL, everyone else is -- they aren't. Regardless, you should have taken my post for sarcasm, which was obvious -- your "joke," OTOH was not.
> I guess being a faceless entity behind a keyboard really does give one false courage, because you would never respond that way to me in person.
As for the first part, sort of. What makes it false? The only reason a person has courage IRL is when they have a chance of success. If they don't have a chance of success, they can still be graceful in defeat, but courage? Hardly. As for the second part, yes, I would have responded in roughly the same way.
> since you don't really have a 'set'
Ah yes, you talk of my "anonymous courage" and then say that. What happened to staying on the moral high ground? I do, in fact have a "set" of balls, assuming that's what you meant. I have a pair, actually, but two is usually the quantity of testicles to have a complete set. They aren't gargantuan, but they are there and do their purpose.
And you said that I didn't get your joke? At least mine made sense. So, *nyah nyah nyah nyah naaaa*
> Did he say anything insightful? No.
It wasn't exactly a huge revelation, but some people (sometimes, especially the highly intelligent) have to be reminded of the simple ideas instead of making it overly-complex.
> If you can ever get something that looks nice in Print Preview on Mac OSX, you can export to PDF.
You specify "on Mac OSX" as if you can't do it in Windows. It may not be built-in (is it on the Mac?), but if you get a program like eDocPrinter PDF Pro, it's dirt simple.
> But it is the same thing as digging pointless trenches.
There is supposed to be this thing in your head called a brain. I suggest you see a doctor about it. By your "logic," when roads were built it was just pointless pavement placement. Building roads & rails adds infrastructure to the country, which makes travel more efficient, thus shipping is cheaper, means you can ship higher quantities faster -- result should be economic gain, over a long time.
> The fact is Americans like to drive big, inefficient cars
I didn't realize that there were no Asian (Honda, Acura, Mitsubishi, Kia, Hyundai, etc) cars sold in the U.S. Or Sunfires, Neons, Cavaliers.... The American cars may be slightly more inefficient, but the existence of MILLIONS of Hondas in the U.S. just adds proof to the hypothesis that you are a fucking anti-American smear-monger. You state "facts" that are not facts at all. Stop patting yourself on the back for insulting Americans, because when your insults are, in fact, lies, you lose all credibility (assuming you had any to begin with).
> the high gas prices because everyone else likes to drive gas-guzzling cars too
Hahaha!!! High gas prices??? Compared to inflation, gas prices are ridiculously low! Not only that, but U.S. gas prices are generally CHEAPER that European prices. Do you think about what you say before you say it, or do you just report to us information from your own reality?
Damn, your stupidity aggravates me. I guess that's why you became a troll -- you can't offer anything useful to any conversation.
> If America makes Americans, then it should be Mexicons, Canadans, Francens, and Englandns.
Oh wow, you are so smart pointing out inconsistencies of the English language. I had no idea there were any! Please be the mother of my children, I am truly in awe of your massive intellectual superiority. BTW, STFU.
> what does Gentoo do when, for example, two programs use the same library but use features that are exclusive to different versions of that library?
It should tell the user to kill the person that broke the library's backwards-compatibility. You might want to find newer versions of some of your software.
If you are a masochist, then going completely from source is the way to go. It's strange timing, but I'm trying to get squid & squidguard working together as a filtering proxy server, but lo & behold, it's all crap. Using Mandrake 10.0 (Community, of course), squid will install very nicely from source, as well as BerkeleyDB. SquidGuard, OTOH is a different beast entirely. I tried compiling it the first time, it said there was no BorkeleyDB installed (there was). I reinstalled DB, but SG still said it wasn't there. I even told it exactly where to find it (--with-db, --with-db-*) -- no dice, it still claims it's not there. So I decided to reinstall the OS... for some reason. Now, it found BerkeleyDB before it was even installed, but "make" dies when it tries to use db.h (something about wrong # of arguments). This is even more undocumented than the first error. I found three pages about the current error, 1 was in French, one was in German, 1 English -- all were message boards, none had answers.
Well, I used the squidGuard RPM, after bitching to an ignorant website owner who would not let anyone download the file if they changed the browser info string -- he said it was so Windows users couldn't get their hands on it. What a fucking moron, RPMs are useless for Windows users... Anyway, the cache buildng (squid -z) went fine, and I was able to add the redirect_children line, but the damned thing just starts up & shuts down without doing anything.
I opened the port (3128) during the second install in addition to ssh & ftp, but after it's done, all ports are shut down, there is no documentation to be found on how to open them up. Supposedly Shorewall should be the problem, but the ports are all open in it. At least I never had this problem in RedHat (but I certainly had others). Fuck you, Mandrake... Fuck you in your useless, nonfunctioning distro ass. And I had heard so many good things about Mandrake...
ANYWAY.... my point is this: compile from source only if you are able to build all of Linux from source (old slackware-style, no installer). If you can't do that, trying to install software from source is usually a waste of time -- it NEVER WORKS. I'm not saying that just because of this experience, but with experience from many different Intel/AMD PCs and 2 Sun SPARCs.
If you aren't already a fucking genius & can fix bugs in preexisting software, and aren't lucky as shit, use packages. It saves so much time, headache, and vocal cords since you won't be screaming obscenities at the poorly-designed compiler scripts.
Some packages are a bigger pain in the ass, though. If you decide to install any software by hand, you had better not rely on it in future package installs. As per my previous example, I had to install SG with the "--nodeps" option. If you hadn't installed the dependencies with the package installer, future installs will refuse to accept the possibility that the software might possibly already be installed (my only experience with this is RPMs, but this PITA hasn't changed since at least 1998).
Think Linux is really ready for the desktop? As soon as I can install any software like this without jumping through a million hoops and reading a dozen novels, it will be ready. Right now? Not. Fucking. Close.
> I imagine Microsoft could very easily make Xbox Live incompatible with the original Xbox
Could? could??? You know damned well that as soon as XBox2 is out, original XBox live functionality has less than a year to live.
> um i think you mean jumped ship.
Um, I think YOU meant "I'm an idiot who should shut the hell up because I don't know what this conversation is about." He said it correctly.
> The bird doesn't have a marginal cost of ZERO.
Ummm... since "marginal cost" is entirely a human concept, a bird does not have any marginal cost at all -- not even zero cost. I've never thought that cost is what is meant by "free" in this phrase, though. I think it have more to do with freedom (liberty) -- either way, freedom has no real cost or even any real attirbutes. Information being free or unfree is meaningless, just as it would be to say "clouds want to be free."
> one can still quibble as to whether winning in the electoral college constitutes being "elected by the people."
No, there is no quibbling at all. My point is that there has never been a president "elected by the people." We have always had the electoral college for good reasons, most of which have not changed. If you graduated from High School, you should know this, yet people still bitch & moan about it. If you don't like a law, fine: work to change it. But the electoral college is a very fundamental part of the U.S. that is not currently replaceable, as there aren't any fundamentally & significantly better solutions available currently.
> Information wants to be free, we communicate for the purpose of telling one another how we feel, how we think, forming unity, or breaking it apart.
Read my sig. It's people that want things, and people certainly want it all for free, not information. Do you see a bird in the sky and say "birds want to be free?" No, the bird is flying -- just doing what it does. Information just is, and all it does is inform, it desires nothing. I have the desire to become informed, but for it to happen I must take the first step, as the information itself cannot.
> I bet the first thing we'll do, when we find life, is kill it!
Actually, if the life is microbal and everywhere, we may have started killing it already! Happy thought for happy days...
> the next step will be to locate / isolate the DNA / RNA and check whether it conforms [...] if so, the next presumption is that the two forms have a common origin.
No, that is not the next presumption. I understand why you would think that, but just because two things are similar, it does not mean they are the same. What if the 4-base code is really the ideal way for life to grow? Then no matter where we found it, it would have it. So would we have to presume that all lifeforms we find similar to ours, regardless how far away, are all sharing ancestors? Certainly not.
> But I would never say these things, because I'd be afraid that some Anonymous Coward might post my unmunged email address. Congratulations to you, Mr. Republican Coward!
Get a clue, stop trolling (to the parent, GP too). A Democrat would do the same thing. Both of those parties and their followers are basically the same and "both sides" lack the same morality.
> Nar its a band man...
Wow, I hope the music is done well, because the lyrics are not.
> (Score:2, Insightful)
How the heck does this crap get rated insightful? It's redundant as hell! We've all heard it, we all know it's either bullshit or at least unchangeable. Give. it. up.
> That sure seemed to upset you! Somebody made you mad by pointing out AOL isn't for technological genius types... It will be ok.
Oh ho, ho! You are a master of genius wit and utter cluelessness. Not too quick, are you? I never showed any inclination (that means "tendency" in this case, although I should explain what that means too, since you're obviously a fucking dolt) of being upset, you just assumed that everyone gets their panties in a twist like you. Sorry, we don't all fly off the handle insulting others cluelessly. Or at least when we get mad, we get mad for a reason and put together a good (at least sensical) argument. You, sir, are not worth the bitch of a camel you came from.
> Ppl like guerilla solar started because of the run around they get from power companies in california and other places .
So these people started an organization because these damned companies wouldn't help them form an organization... that will make them less profit. Are you fucking retarded? Do you realize that this has absolutely nothing to do with anything on-topic? Are you a troll or something? Not a very good one. If you're gonna troll, at least be interesting.