Taiwan became big in semiconductor manufacturing because over the course of three decades of private and government research and experience they were able to become very good at it,...
Taiwan become powerhouse of semiconductor because the semiconductor industrial was outsourced to Taiwan! Look at the background of founders of TSMC, UMC and other large fabs in Taiwan as well as their investors. The founders are returnees from the US. Moores Zheng worked in TI for 20+ years. Government strongly support and subsidize semiconductor industry. Look at the land and tax cut TSMC is getting from the government. Even today, Taiwan's workers in semiconductor are still not as well paid as their counterparts in the US but they are well compensated by the highly valued stocks of TSMC in the market. Overall, TSMC and other fabs in Taiwan was successful because with all the conditions, they can compete with America or other countries fab with lower price! After 20 years of build up, TSMC and other Taiwanese fabs are catching up in quality and also, US, because of the declining of semiconductor industry do not have as many available experienced people in the field.
Same pattern emerges for Software in India as well. Founders of Wipro and Infosys all worked in the US software industry for a long time. They returned to India to start their companies with government support. Big boost because Y2K. All US COBOL programmers were too expensive to work on tedious bug like that and young US programmers were too busy writting cool CGI in dotCom. Big outsourcing started there. Now, the IT industrial labors in India are well trained in real enterprise system rather then dotCom scripting, the outflow of the jobs just won't stop.
Interesting that you bring up the issues of currency. Economist has this intersting article about how it would affect America is Yuan (Chinese dollar) is revalued. As one of the largest US treasure bond holder, the US interest rate will go up if China started to sell its holding and higher interest rate will hit the US real estate market as well as US companies' operating cost. The devalue of US dollar may not have any effect.
but face it guys: the world is - or should be - on track for greater equilibrium, which - in the u.s. - means a lower standard of living all around. get your big screen tv's now.
Not really necessary to mean a lower standard of living. The cost of goods may have to be readjust. Large screen TV can be have in China for lot cheaper then in the US and so is the cost of other things. DVDs are costing $1 for the pirated but only $2.50 for the legit copies. I think it's time for US to revalue the price tags on the good they are paying for. While outsourcing helps US companies' to increase their profit, I think it's also time the US customers to demand something back from corporate US!!! Lower the price tag in the US market accordingly!
India and China won't be able to progress at the speed of Japan or Taiwan. Japan was benefited greatly from its post war development with 100 or so of modernization. Taiwan benefit from the former ruling party KMT taking a large chunk of post-WWII China's wealth to a island of only 8 million people. And both countries benefit from a large and frendily export market namely US market to support their growth.
However, China and India combined has 1/3 of the world's population. US market, even the entire world market won't be able to support them the same kind of growth for Taiwan or Japan.
With the 9% growth econemy growth rate substained over the next 20 years, China may get a chance to pass Japan in 2025 in GDP. However, China will have 10 times the population of Japan so that's labor cost would still be much lower by then. India is probably further in the timeline to be able to reach that.
The leveling will be at the expense of sliding in the US combining with increasing in the India and China.
And come out of school with a degree in "software engineering" makes you a software engineer? It takes years and experience in real projects to become a valuable one. As the projects are being outsourced, your chance of experiencing one is becoming less while the software engineers in the other side on gaining.
I think this is another bad assumption on the side of American. Yes, the country will need to modernization and goverment will have to spend. Typically, government spending will encourage domestic development even further. China has demostrated What an aggressive government spending can do for its econemy.
The other thing. Raising tax isn't the only way to pay for public construction. Raising foreigner debt is one way, BTO (Build to own) is another which cooperations paid for the construction, charge for it for a period of time and return that to the government.
If the government can be sure that these spending can simulate econemy which eventually increase its tax incoming to pay for the debt, it is unnecessary to raise tax now in order to pay for it.
I am posting from China and I can second this. Foreigner born Chinese and Indian take home 36% doctoral degrees in the US (20% Chinese and 16% Indian) and work on those innovative jobs/.ers consistly cite that can't be outsource to either China or India. With the rapid econemy growth in China and India and sliding econemy in the US, more of those perspective innovative workers may not choice to go to US after they graduate and instead of staying home. Same innovative jobs are done by the same group in much lower cost.
Who's working on the bill to make the use of non-Microsoft software in Iraq a capital crime? Remember a while ago that some congressman from San Diego wanted Iraq to go CMDA?
I think this is exactly the kind of attitude that got American industries into so much troubles over the past couple decades. First, there came the underpower radio built on transistor from some Japanese company. Well, before you knew it, Sony was #1 brand in the consumer electronics in the US. Second, there came some faceless Japanese car vendors and before you knew it, Luxus is top brand.
It's easier to dismiss a threat if you made it faceless and nameless and think of their action as stupid. Who knows what happened next? You will wake up, walk into Wal-Mart and found all the cell phones you can buy are made by Haier, TCL, and Ningbo and powered by E28.
This has happened in the past and it can happen again.
Japanese phone in US market? Take a quick look at the cell phones available in the US, Japanese vendors have very small percentage of the market. Korean vendors like LG or Samsung has much better share of the markets.
Japanese 2G system is based on Docomo's own TDMA technology and isn't compatible with the international standard GSM. While this allows Docomo to evolve the system faster and benefit from the success of i-mode in Japan, the incompatibility has casue Japanse phone vendors such as Panasonic, Sony and others the world market.
The world wide mobile phone market has been dominated by the MEN (Motorola, Ericsson, and Nokia) and three of them has combined market shares of 80% or so.
The battle in China is just the beginning and the next will be India with has only 5 millions of cell phone subscribers. With a population of 1 billions, there are plenty of growth opportunities.
Laying out the facts about the market, we can see how important Chinese cell phne market is today. Whoever gets Chinese market will get India market. Cell phone, much like computers, has almost the same price across the world. A handset costs $100 in the US will still cost $100 in China or Inida. In this regard, US market is relatively unimportant.
In late 2002, several Chinese vendors like Ningbo Bird, TCL, Haier and Legend announced that they would enter the Chinese cell phone market while was dominated by MEN with 80% market shares along with Samsung, Panasonic and Seimen for the rest, the Chinese vendors was laughed at by the press. The prediction was the Chinese vendors' combined market share would be about 10%. Early this year, the number was adjusted to 20% and the truth came out is that Chinese vendors now have 55% of the Chinese cell phone markets and Motorola was overtaken by Ningbo Bird which is now the #1 cell phone vendor in China.
However, with all the glory in gaining the market share, Chinese vendors was doing it by licensing, OEM, ODM the phones from vendors from other countries such as Korea, Taiwan, Europe, and US including Motorola. Lack of the control to the core technologies, the Chinese vendors can't gain huge profit from their market share and also means their market domination depends on the competitors to supply the technologies.
Now, with market shares at hand, the Chinese vendors will be able to support domestic vendors to develop technologies for cell phones. Europe GSM has long developing the model of having large companies like Nokia or Ericsson in charge of the global branding and marketing while supporting start-ups at home to do design and development. Same thing is going to happen in China. The company E28 in the story was founded by top level executive of Motorola's China operation.
In conclusion, Japanese vendors are niche in the global cell phone markets. US cell phones market isn't important because there is no market growth and the standard used in the US is also not standard compliant (GSM runs at 900/1800 Mhz while US GSM called PCS runs at 1900 Mhz). The real market of significant is China today and India tomorrow and whoever wins China today will have India tomorrow.
US doesn't manufacture the phone?!? The #2 handset manufacturers in the world is called Motorola and it is an US company!!! Motorola has been #1 handset vendor in China for the past 10 years and it was passed by Bird this year.
Most Chinese phone vendors still rely much on the Western companies including Motorola to provide components and software for phone. Motorola has been doing good business on this.
The launch of E2800 by E28 is a threat to Motorola because it will potential cut into a big software/components market now dominated by Motorola!.
Japan makes most cellphones for domestic use and the launch of Chinese phones have no impact on the Japanese vendors!
Yes, for Japan, it's Docomo launches a Java phone and for America, it is Motorola launches a Java phone. For the poor small Chinese company, launching the Java phone is just part of its patriotic duty to the massive communistic collective?!?
Give the Chinese company a name and a face!!! They are not a faceless commies collective!!!
The company is called E28 and the phone gets launched is E2800.
Old Bush lost the second term because he won the war too fast. Young one won't make the same mistake again. After Desert Storm, Bush's approval rating was like 90% but it was too far away from the election. A big lession learned in the family!
The timing for the capture is just too perfect to not having a conspericy theory. Capture him now and bring some troops home for the Xmas. This will be the topic of Xmas dinner table conversation. Put Saddam on trial after new year and have a vedict along of the "discovery" of some WMDs will surely give him the second term.
You make a good point. What does Taiwanese think? Do they want to unification or independent? According to the poll, vast majority of them wants to maintain the current staus quo. It's comfortable and stable. Either unification or independency will bring too much uncertainty to the table.
What we should be discussing is how far a politician like Chen is willing to go for a second term. The so-called "defensive" referrendum has no meaning. Anyone would vote on not having 400 missile pointing at my backyard. Does that really accomplish anything?
Chen is doing anything in his power to try to win the election and cover his incompetency as a leader. The econemy is sliding and future of Taiwan is uncertain. He has neither the intelligence nor the courage to face this problem head on. The tricky part of the question involving how to deal with China appropriately. To leverage China to advance Taiwan's econemy.
However, Chen as a politician who win on the ground of racial/ethinic divid in Taiwan can not go for that route. Start to getting close to China will make his more aggressive supporters turn their back on him and he's not likely to win the votes from the opposite side.
The only strategy for Chen is going to piss China into threating Taiwan so he could win the second term. However, this is dangerous for the people and it's dangerous for the stability.
Most of Taiwanese I talked to think Chen is just a show and do not take him seriously. However, the attitudes make the manner even worth. While we are worrying about a potential war between China and Taiwan, the people in Taiwan just ignore Chen and go on with their daily business. Without domestic pressure and international oversight, Chen could carry this too far and bring the two to the verge of war. Taiwanese will wake up with missles showering on their head and still don't figure out what happened.
It will be difference. With war between India and Pakistan, the software projects got delay and in the past 20 years, we are so used to software project delay and over budget. Also, there are East Europe and China ready to take over the outsourcing operations from India. The master repository for the source codes are safely archieved in the US. Moving the software projects around won't be hard.
In the case of Taiwan and China, hardware are manufectured. If there was a war, the production got delay. Supply chains won't be stocked up on the inventories ready for the big shopping season in the US and companies won't be able to make their quarterly sale forecast. Everything goes to hell. Moving the manufecture won't be easy. Takes billions of dollars and a couple years to build a foundary and tens of millions to build even a mouse factory. Moving that operations anywhere in short times are impossible. If a war between China and Taiwan broke, the ice age of IT will start and will takes years to recover from that.
A related news in Chinese press, Cai Ling the female leader of the 1989 Tiananmen demacorcy movment has recently arrived in Hongkong to negotiate with Chinese government in order to open a new business in Shanghai. She escaped to the US in 1991 and graduated with a MBA degree from Harvard. Appearently, she left US because trouble with IRS because of questionable financial statement of her's dotCON company in late 90s'
Can't find any Western press carrying this news. The morale of the story: IRS is more scary then Chinese government who wants her DEAD!!!
China's domestic A/V markets is estimated to be US$20 billions this year but, in reality, it's only $2 billions due to the pirating. Fighting pirating is difficult in China while pirated CD sales are providing the mean to feed large group of people in a country with 250M unemployed.
Realizing cracking down the pirating is not possible in short term, the large medias companies such as Disney has been pricing their products closed to the pirated copies. A legit Disney DVD costs about $3 while the pirated costs about $1.
Waving out the royalty fee for DVD would help the media companies to close the cost gap between legit copies and pirated copies.
Moreover, Chinese manufecture about 50% or more of DVD players for export. They haven't complaining about paying royalty on that but they want EVD to be used domestically to avoid paying DVD royalty for domestic market.
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For those thinking about ssh/gcc/bash on this phone, you can forget about it! This is MotoJUIX (Motorola/Java/Linux), that's Motorola/Java, two propriatery system on top of open source kernel called Linux! This is not the GNU/Linux system you are thinking about.
After all, Stallman is right! Linux is just a KERNEL!!!
Finally, some sensible response to the subject of China. I just finished reading Tom Clancy's The Bears and The Dragons sitting in a Starbucks in Shanghsi. The story ends with Chinese Politburo has a internal coup fueled by students demostraction. An overly simplified happy ending of American novel? Maybe.
The student demostraction of 1989 is near the verge of a revolution with the potential to overthrow the goverment in Beijing. It's not the million men marches in the US that we know for sure will end in peace. 1989 was a revolution about to begin! Mao started RPC in similar fashion. How would any power in the world deal with a revolution? How would American deals with tens of thousands people converge in front of white house on the verge of starting a revolution? The reaction would be similar.
The person got detained was a advocate of FaLunGong. Lately, there are two incidents of FaLungGong's followers buning themselves to death in Tiananmen Square. That's a very powerful statement. What would American do to a religion that would drive their followers to this point? It would be called cult, not religion and will definitely get a visit from FBI! Remember Waco Texas? At least David Koresh had the decency to suffer along with his followers. The leader of Falunggong is now living in Manhattan, New York to run the "religion" out of Internet.
I was in the book store in Beijing a while ago. I walked down the computer science and found a couple of my old time favorite books like the dragon book for compiler design and others. The price is like RMB$25~40. I paid more than that in the US for my copies. Remember, these books are not pirated. They are authorized to published.
On the same account, Disney is selling Mickey DVD in Chian for US$2 vs $1 for pirate copies.
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If story like this even make it to /. or it's just a slow news day?
Taiwan become powerhouse of semiconductor because the semiconductor industrial was outsourced to Taiwan! Look at the background of founders of TSMC, UMC and other large fabs in Taiwan as well as their investors. The founders are returnees from the US. Moores Zheng worked in TI for 20+ years. Government strongly support and subsidize semiconductor industry. Look at the land and tax cut TSMC is getting from the government. Even today, Taiwan's workers in semiconductor are still not as well paid as their counterparts in the US but they are well compensated by the highly valued stocks of TSMC in the market. Overall, TSMC and other fabs in Taiwan was successful because with all the conditions, they can compete with America or other countries fab with lower price! After 20 years of build up, TSMC and other Taiwanese fabs are catching up in quality and also, US, because of the declining of semiconductor industry do not have as many available experienced people in the field.
Same pattern emerges for Software in India as well. Founders of Wipro and Infosys all worked in the US software industry for a long time. They returned to India to start their companies with government support. Big boost because Y2K. All US COBOL programmers were too expensive to work on tedious bug like that and young US programmers were too busy writting cool CGI in dotCom. Big outsourcing started there. Now, the IT industrial labors in India are well trained in real enterprise system rather then dotCom scripting, the outflow of the jobs just won't stop.
India and China won't be able to progress at the speed of Japan or Taiwan. Japan was benefited greatly from its post war development with 100 or so of modernization. Taiwan benefit from the former ruling party KMT taking a large chunk of post-WWII China's wealth to a island of only 8 million people. And both countries benefit from a large and frendily export market namely US market to support their growth.
However, China and India combined has 1/3 of the world's population. US market, even the entire world market won't be able to support them the same kind of growth for Taiwan or Japan.
With the 9% growth econemy growth rate substained over the next 20 years, China may get a chance to pass Japan in 2025 in GDP. However, China will have 10 times the population of Japan so that's labor cost would still be much lower by then. India is probably further in the timeline to be able to reach that.
The leveling will be at the expense of sliding in the US combining with increasing in the India and China.
And come out of school with a degree in "software engineering" makes you a software engineer? It takes years and experience in real projects to become a valuable one. As the projects are being outsourced, your chance of experiencing one is becoming less while the software engineers in the other side on gaining.
I think this is another bad assumption on the side of American. Yes, the country will need to modernization and goverment will have to spend. Typically, government spending will encourage domestic development even further. China has demostrated What an aggressive government spending can do for its econemy.
The other thing. Raising tax isn't the only way to pay for public construction. Raising foreigner debt is one way, BTO (Build to own) is another which cooperations paid for the construction, charge for it for a period of time and return that to the government.
If the government can be sure that these spending can simulate econemy which eventually increase its tax incoming to pay for the debt, it is unnecessary to raise tax now in order to pay for it.
I am posting from China and I can second this. /.ers consistly cite that can't be outsource to either China or India. With the rapid econemy growth in China and India and sliding econemy in the US, more of those perspective innovative workers may not choice to go to US after they graduate and instead of staying home. Same innovative jobs are done by the same group in much lower cost.
Foreigner born Chinese and Indian take home 36% doctoral degrees in the US (20% Chinese and 16% Indian) and work on those innovative jobs
Yes, I think this is exactly the point! Writing a new OS kernel isn't a hard task, being able to manage a project of this size is amazing.
Who's working on the bill to make the use of non-Microsoft software in Iraq a capital crime? Remember a while ago that some congressman from San Diego wanted Iraq to go CMDA?
The country has 250 millions mobile phone users and the average price for cell phone is about US$250. 250 millions is about the population of the US.
$600 price tag may "only" give them about a potential market size of said top 20 millions. With just 100,000 handset in sales, it's US$60 millions.
Do your math!
I think this is exactly the kind of attitude that got American industries into so much troubles over the past couple decades. First, there came the underpower radio built on transistor from some Japanese company. Well, before you knew it, Sony was #1 brand in the consumer electronics in the US. Second, there came some faceless Japanese car vendors and before you knew it, Luxus is top brand.
It's easier to dismiss a threat if you made it faceless and nameless and think of their action as stupid. Who knows what happened next? You will wake up, walk into Wal-Mart and found all the cell phones you can buy are made by Haier, TCL, and Ningbo and powered by E28.
This has happened in the past and it can happen again.
Japanese phone in US market? Take a quick look at the cell phones available in the US, Japanese vendors have very small percentage of the market. Korean vendors like LG or Samsung has much better share of the markets.
Japanese 2G system is based on Docomo's own TDMA technology and isn't compatible with the international standard GSM. While this allows Docomo to evolve the system faster and benefit from the success of i-mode in Japan, the incompatibility has casue Japanse phone vendors such as Panasonic, Sony and others the world market.
The world wide mobile phone market has been dominated by the MEN (Motorola, Ericsson, and Nokia) and three of them has combined market shares of 80% or so.
Right now, the battlefield for mobile phone market is in China who has 250 millions mobile subscribers and that's almost the whole population of the US. Chinese market is expected to double to 500 millions by 2007.
The battle in China is just the beginning and the next will be India with has only 5 millions of cell phone subscribers. With a population of 1 billions, there are plenty of growth opportunities.
Laying out the facts about the market, we can see how important Chinese cell phne market is today. Whoever gets Chinese market will get India market. Cell phone, much like computers, has almost the same price across the world. A handset costs $100 in the US will still cost $100 in China or Inida. In this regard, US market is relatively unimportant.
In late 2002, several Chinese vendors like Ningbo Bird, TCL, Haier and Legend announced that they would enter the Chinese cell phone market while was dominated by MEN with 80% market shares along with Samsung, Panasonic and Seimen for the rest, the Chinese vendors was laughed at by the press. The prediction was the Chinese vendors' combined market share would be about 10%. Early this year, the number was adjusted to 20% and the truth came out is that Chinese vendors now have 55% of the Chinese cell phone markets and Motorola was overtaken by Ningbo Bird which is now the #1 cell phone vendor in China.
However, with all the glory in gaining the market share, Chinese vendors was doing it by licensing, OEM, ODM the phones from vendors from other countries such as Korea, Taiwan, Europe, and US including Motorola. Lack of the control to the core technologies, the Chinese vendors can't gain huge profit from their market share and also means their market domination depends on the competitors to supply the technologies.
Now, with market shares at hand, the Chinese vendors will be able to support domestic vendors to develop technologies for cell phones. Europe GSM has long developing the model of having large companies like Nokia or Ericsson in charge of the global branding and marketing while supporting start-ups at home to do design and development. Same thing is going to happen in China. The company E28 in the story was founded by top level executive of Motorola's China operation.
In conclusion, Japanese vendors are niche in the global cell phone markets. US cell phones market isn't important because there is no market growth and the standard used in the US is also not standard compliant (GSM runs at 900/1800 Mhz while US GSM called PCS runs at 1900 Mhz). The real market of significant is China today and India tomorrow and whoever wins China today will have India tomorrow.
US doesn't manufacture the phone?!? The #2 handset manufacturers in the world is called Motorola and it is an US company!!! Motorola has been #1 handset vendor in China for the past 10 years and it was passed by Bird this year.
Most Chinese phone vendors still rely much on the Western companies including Motorola to provide components and software for phone. Motorola has been doing good business on this.
The launch of E2800 by E28 is a threat to Motorola because it will potential cut into a big software/components market now dominated by Motorola!.
Japan makes most cellphones for domestic use and the launch of Chinese phones have no impact on the Japanese vendors!
Yes, for Japan, it's Docomo launches a Java phone and for America, it is Motorola launches a Java phone. For the poor small Chinese company, launching the Java phone is just part of its patriotic duty to the massive communistic collective?!?
Give the Chinese company a name and a face!!! They are not a faceless commies collective!!!
The company is called E28 and the phone gets launched is E2800.
Old Bush lost the second term because he won the war too fast. Young one won't make the same mistake again. After Desert Storm, Bush's approval rating was like 90% but it was too far away from the election. A big lession learned in the family!
The timing for the capture is just too perfect to not having a conspericy theory. Capture him now and bring some troops home for the Xmas. This will be the topic of Xmas dinner table conversation. Put Saddam on trial after new year and have a vedict along of the "discovery" of some WMDs will surely give him the second term.
In the recent poll, 58% of the people want to maintain the status quo. 22% hope for indpendent but only 5.9% wants independency at any cost.
You make a good point. What does Taiwanese think? Do they want to unification or independent? According to the poll, vast majority of them wants to maintain the current staus quo. It's comfortable and stable. Either unification or independency will bring too much uncertainty to the table.
What we should be discussing is how far a politician like Chen is willing to go for a second term. The so-called "defensive" referrendum has no meaning. Anyone would vote on not having 400 missile pointing at my backyard. Does that really accomplish anything?
Chen is doing anything in his power to try to win the election and cover his incompetency as a leader. The econemy is sliding and future of Taiwan is uncertain. He has neither the intelligence nor the courage to face this problem head on. The tricky part of the question involving how to deal with China appropriately. To leverage China to advance Taiwan's econemy.
However, Chen as a politician who win on the ground of racial/ethinic divid in Taiwan can not go for that route. Start to getting close to China will make his more aggressive supporters turn their back on him and he's not likely to win the votes from the opposite side.
The only strategy for Chen is going to piss China into threating Taiwan so he could win the second term. However, this is dangerous for the people and it's dangerous for the stability.
Most of Taiwanese I talked to think Chen is just a show and do not take him seriously. However, the attitudes make the manner even worth. While we are worrying about a potential war between China and Taiwan, the people in Taiwan just ignore Chen and go on with their daily business. Without domestic pressure and international oversight, Chen could carry this too far and bring the two to the verge of war. Taiwanese will wake up with missles showering on their head and still don't figure out what happened.
It will be difference. With war between India and Pakistan, the software projects got delay and in the past 20 years, we are so used to software project delay and over budget. Also, there are East Europe and China ready to take over the outsourcing operations from India. The master repository for the source codes are safely archieved in the US. Moving the software projects around won't be hard.
In the case of Taiwan and China, hardware are manufectured. If there was a war, the production got delay. Supply chains won't be stocked up on the inventories ready for the big shopping season in the US and companies won't be able to make their quarterly sale forecast. Everything goes to hell. Moving the manufecture won't be easy. Takes billions of dollars and a couple years to build a foundary and tens of millions to build even a mouse factory. Moving that operations anywhere in short times are impossible. If a war between China and Taiwan broke, the ice age of IT will start and will takes years to recover from that.
A related news in Chinese press, Cai Ling the female leader of the 1989 Tiananmen demacorcy movment has recently arrived in Hongkong to negotiate with Chinese government in order to open a new business in Shanghai. She escaped to the US in 1991 and graduated with a MBA degree from Harvard. Appearently, she left US because trouble with IRS because of questionable financial statement of her's dotCON company in late 90s'
Can't find any Western press carrying this news. The morale of the story: IRS is more scary then Chinese government who wants her DEAD!!!
China's domestic A/V markets is estimated to be US$20 billions this year but, in reality, it's only $2 billions due to the pirating. Fighting pirating is difficult in China while pirated CD sales are providing the mean to feed large group of people in a country with 250M unemployed.
Realizing cracking down the pirating is not possible in short term, the large medias companies such as Disney has been pricing their products closed to the pirated copies. A legit Disney DVD costs about $3 while the pirated costs about $1.
Waving out the royalty fee for DVD would help the media companies to close the cost gap between legit copies and pirated copies.
Moreover, Chinese manufecture about 50% or more of DVD players for export. They haven't complaining about paying royalty on that but they want EVD to be used domestically to avoid paying DVD royalty for domestic market.
JEOPS is another pure Java rule engines available under LGPL. It can be found here
For those thinking about ssh/gcc/bash on this phone, you can forget about it! This is MotoJUIX (Motorola/Java/Linux), that's Motorola/Java, two propriatery system on top of open source kernel called Linux! This is not the GNU/Linux system you are thinking about.
After all, Stallman is right! Linux is just a KERNEL!!!
Finally, some sensible response to the subject of China. I just finished reading Tom Clancy's The Bears and The Dragons sitting in a Starbucks in Shanghsi. The story ends with Chinese Politburo has a internal coup fueled by students demostraction. An overly simplified happy ending of American novel? Maybe.
The student demostraction of 1989 is near the verge of a revolution with the potential to overthrow the goverment in Beijing. It's not the million men marches in the US that we know for sure will end in peace. 1989 was a revolution about to begin! Mao started RPC in similar fashion. How would any power in the world deal with a revolution? How would American deals with tens of thousands people converge in front of white house on the verge of starting a revolution? The reaction would be similar.
The person got detained was a advocate of FaLunGong. Lately, there are two incidents of FaLungGong's followers buning themselves to death in Tiananmen Square. That's a very powerful statement. What would American do to a religion that would drive their followers to this point? It would be called cult, not religion and will definitely get a visit from FBI! Remember Waco Texas? At least David Koresh had the decency to suffer along with his followers. The leader of Falunggong is now living in Manhattan, New York to run the "religion" out of Internet.
I was in the book store in Beijing a while ago. I walked down the computer science and found a couple of my old time favorite books like the dragon book for compiler design and others. The price is like RMB$25~40. I paid more than that in the US for my copies. Remember, these books are not pirated. They are authorized to published.
On the same account, Disney is selling Mickey DVD in Chian for US$2 vs $1 for pirate copies.
Just a joke. Taiwan has been in race with China for years. It's interesting to see this news right after China has finished a manned space mission.