If you aren't planning on forcing their hand don't expect anything. It is in their interest to retain your services as cheaply as possible. Why would they give you more money if you are going to work just as hard for less. Jeez!
Damn dude. Relax. Maybe all that shitty stuff happened because people got all hard line about stupid shit. Leaving them unwilling to see any benefits in another point of view/maybe/.
My understanding was some sort of electrolysis plant would create the hydrogen using solar energy. If that is the case, Southern California is a pretty good place to start the process with its abundant sunlight. Unfortunately, I don't think anyone had ever tried to produce hydrogen on a large scale using just solar energy.
I think Mary Shelly's story actually fits pretty well. There is a lot of good qualities to the hardware and software in this Frankentablet, but the monster it has become is the result of Viewsonic's decisions.
"I'm not defending lower quality staff but many tasks have become easier"
I think thats a big part of the problem. The initial barriers to get an IT job are lower than they used to be because things are easier. But now we have all these people that have no idea whats going on under the hood.
The quality of IT people I have worked with over the last 12 years has slowly degraded over time. We are at the point now where "sysadmins" have the skills that a helpdesk person had 10 years ago. I think there is just so much demand that you have to pay more than companies are willing to spend to get a quality sysadmin or network admin type of IT guy.
Nice analogy. I think the root of this "research" may well be Australian superiority complex over the indigenous people.
When I visited New Zealand in 2007 the top headline in the paper was "Maori found to be genetically inclined towards violence." The article used similar psuedo-scientific interpretation of the data to prove that the Maori people in New Zealand are born violent with a "warrior gene."
I'm glad that something like that wouldn't be allowed in the USA these days without extreme scrutiny. Hell, even if there was scientific basis to it (there was very very little meat and potatoes to the NZ story), I thought it was very irresponsible to print a headline that would only lead to more ill will between the native community and whites that arrived 150 years ago.
Going off those two stories, and what I witnessed first hand in NZ (saw several instances of what can only be called endemic racism by some whites towards Maori and Arabs) I think the Australian and New Zealand media hype genetic superiority to their readers quite a bit. That is what their anglo-saxon bases want to hear, so they spoon feed it to them and it happily gets devoured. My sister moved to Australia for 3 years, and now has lived in New Zealand for almost 4 years. Its sad seeing the general perception down there change her viewpoint. The last time we talked about Maori people she said something along the lines of "The Maori are poor and dangerous. Kinda like Mexicans in California." I was like "Hey! A lot of my friends and colleagues are Mexican, I like Mexico. WTF?!!"
The time I have spent in other countries has re-iterated to me many times over that despite the extremists we have on both sides, the struggles that the US has gone through with racism, slavery, xenophobia, immigration, etc, has made us stronger and more accepting of other cultures. If I had to pick one thing that makes me proud to be an American, it would be that every citizen is guaranteed a fair shake here.
Dude, its a cultural thing not a race thing. A Chinese person that grows up in the states doesn't have issues. It's about a guilt society vs a shame society. Japanese act similarly, they might go farther with underhanded things to get ahead, but then if it is unveiled publicly they actually suffer more shame than westerners would. Its just a different approach. The Western way is more focused on the individual, the eastern way is more focused on the group. Sure there are lots of exceptions, everyone is different, but in my experience, Chinese engineers tend to fudge things to give managers what they want to hear a LOT more than American engineers.
Hell, I'm about to review 3 test reports from Beijing this evening. I go over several every week. Some of the engineers over there are better than others, but on average they are overly optimistic compared to test reports form our American engineers. Are they capabke of learning and improving? Certainly. I see it first hand. But when the short comings get pointed out in a conference call, we have to tread very carefully because they get so butt hurt by criticism in front of their peers we are afraid someone is going to start crying or do something drastic. The director we have over there lived in the States for 20 years. He is very helpful in bridging the gap between the two different cultures...
Anyway, I'm just trying to say that I'm extremely open of other cultures and ways of life. If anything I'm strongly anti-racist. But that doesn't mean I cannot recognize cultural differences that can dramatically impact performance when it comes to building and testing complex systems. China faces some serious challenges, political and cultural. It will be very interesting to see what happens over the next 20 years or so, but I still expect them to rise above all other nations to become the next true global hegemony.
Seeing first hand what happened in Thailand during the late 1990s after a brief economic boom, I understand what the original poster is saying. There are literally hundreds of rusting hulks structures just east of Bangkok, along an abandoned double decker highway project that has remained half finished for over a decade now. It was all abandoned to waste away after the currency scare in 1997 when financing went away. Things railroaded quickly and now it is too expensive to tear it down so these old rusting hulks just sit out there providing shelter to squatters.
If you build something that isn't needed right away, there is certainly a chance it will never be needed. Empty buildings age much more quickly than ones with people living in them. China may face some very serious problems economically in the next 5 years. Rising oil prices hurts them more than USA for a lot of reasons. Some American companies are pulling out because of the corruption. Quality is still not there on Chinese products, even for companies with strict QA practices. There have been a lot of failures with high tech endeavors in the past from China, even when they are simply reverse engineering something and copying it. In my experience. Chinese culture doesn't understand guilt the way Westerners do, and it produces engineers that will often cut corners to help out the bottom line. The attitude of the Chinese I work with is really one of arrogance, much like Americans used to be. They assume they are taking over the world, and I think it may be creating a sense apathy towards the low quality of their output. Kind of a shrug and assumption that it will improve. I'm definitely not counting China out, but I'm not sure the lofty goals they are setting right now are as achievable as the nationalistic populace likes to think. We will see...
If the weed is dehydrating and turning into shake, it isn't being stored correctly. A dispensary could use much less expensive and more practical means, like some mason jars, to fix that. I really don't see how an ERP system is better than a couple excel sheets and some common sense. Then again that could probably be said for 90% of ERP customers.
Your argument is moot because increasing efficiency frees up resources to do other things and employ people in other industries. If the cost of a cookie goes down 50% less money will be wasted on inefficient cookies. Then those out of work bakers can make cupcakes that people will buy because they can now afford them thanks to more disposable income.
Decreasing efficiency to achieve higher employment levels is folly. You don't work for the federal government do you? It would explain a lot...
The premise of the article is "scientists don't make any money" and my counter was "sales people don't have souls." I'm sure there are a few sales types out there who are passionate about their work (vs doing it for the money), just like there are a few scientists out there who make millions of dollars (vs doing it because they are passionate). You sales engineers walk a delicate tight rope. I don't think i could handle the disparity between what is sold and delivered while maintaining a straight face to a customer.
It really tugs at the more general question:
Is having more money than you need a bad thing?
My answer to that is no, as long as you understand that having more money means you need to manage your life more responsibly. Otherwise you end up like Charlie Sheen.
Socially maladjusted and smarter-than-thou is pretty standard in Engineering. Both of which are side effects of people who live with passion. In a dark world full of people trying to get at you, passionate people tend to become jaded and feel isolated. The smart ones tend to assume everyone else is stupid.
Backstabbing and underhanded happens rarely in Engineering, and not usually by Engineers. Rather, its the people that don't have the brains to hack it, and/or don't understand the feeling of reward that comes from building something. So they become defensive and resort to that kind of behavior. In my experience they usually end up as project managers (not to say their aren't some great PMs out there).
When I see a marketing team spend $5 million to launch an ad campaign that rips off Angry Birds, a pair of Sales guys hobnobbing about the $50 lobster ravioli they expensed last week, or billions of our taxes getting redirected into some bankers' bonuses, I know in my heart that I couldn't be in their shoes without feeling fucked up about it.
I'm not a man of science. Just a simple guy with a flicker of passion left in me. If I worked in one of those fields, I wouldn't have that anymore.
That is my main reason for sticking to Engineering.
Sales guys, stock brokers, marketing people... Those positions are not rewarding, and you have to leave your soul at the door. Science, Engineering, Construction, Mechanics are the jobs for me. Always will be. I couldn't live with myself knowing that my livelyhood came on the back of others, earned by shiesting a percentage out of something I didn't build because I shuffled some paperwork and talked on the phone. Those people live empty soulless lives. They cheat on their partners. And they drive like assholes on the freeway.
Advocating organic produce is one of my favorites. If the entire earth went organic, the planet could only support enough farming for around 4 billion people. Calling for the gradual starvation of 2+ billion people so a entitled minority can be feel better about themselves is the equivalency of another holocaust to me.
Living in California, I have to deal with organic blowhards (they are usually enviro-nuts too) all the time. I don't even try sharing my viewpoint anymore. Those people have their heads so far up their asses they are unwilling to listen to reason...
And the only way to transfer music or videos with an iphone is to sync via itunes. Which then dumps that location data to the computer that might be infected with a virus.
I had an iphone for 2 years, hated itunes the whole time. Switched last summer to a droid. Waaaay happier now.
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If you aren't planning on forcing their hand don't expect anything. It is in their interest to retain your services as cheaply as possible. Why would they give you more money if you are going to work just as hard for less. Jeez!
Cause it sure looks like it going off that map.
Damn dude. Relax. Maybe all that shitty stuff happened because people got all hard line about stupid shit. Leaving them unwilling to see any benefits in another point of view /maybe/.
My understanding was some sort of electrolysis plant would create the hydrogen using solar energy. If that is the case, Southern California is a pretty good place to start the process with its abundant sunlight. Unfortunately, I don't think anyone had ever tried to produce hydrogen on a large scale using just solar energy.
I think Mary Shelly's story actually fits pretty well. There is a lot of good qualities to the hardware and software in this Frankentablet, but the monster it has become is the result of Viewsonic's decisions.
MOD PARENT UP! :)
I was going to reply to the coward but luckily you got there first.
"I'm not defending lower quality staff but many tasks have become easier"
I think thats a big part of the problem. The initial barriers to get an IT job are lower than they used to be because things are easier. But now we have all these people that have no idea whats going on under the hood.
The quality of IT people I have worked with over the last 12 years has slowly degraded over time. We are at the point now where "sysadmins" have the skills that a helpdesk person had 10 years ago. I think there is just so much demand that you have to pay more than companies are willing to spend to get a quality sysadmin or network admin type of IT guy.
Nice analogy. I think the root of this "research" may well be Australian superiority complex over the indigenous people.
When I visited New Zealand in 2007 the top headline in the paper was "Maori found to be genetically inclined towards violence." The article used similar psuedo-scientific interpretation of the data to prove that the Maori people in New Zealand are born violent with a "warrior gene."
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/120718/warrior-gene-blamed-for-maori-violence
I'm glad that something like that wouldn't be allowed in the USA these days without extreme scrutiny. Hell, even if there was scientific basis to it (there was very very little meat and potatoes to the NZ story), I thought it was very irresponsible to print a headline that would only lead to more ill will between the native community and whites that arrived 150 years ago.
Going off those two stories, and what I witnessed first hand in NZ (saw several instances of what can only be called endemic racism by some whites towards Maori and Arabs) I think the Australian and New Zealand media hype genetic superiority to their readers quite a bit. That is what their anglo-saxon bases want to hear, so they spoon feed it to them and it happily gets devoured. My sister moved to Australia for 3 years, and now has lived in New Zealand for almost 4 years. Its sad seeing the general perception down there change her viewpoint. The last time we talked about Maori people she said something along the lines of "The Maori are poor and dangerous. Kinda like Mexicans in California." I was like "Hey! A lot of my friends and colleagues are Mexican, I like Mexico. WTF?!!"
The time I have spent in other countries has re-iterated to me many times over that despite the extremists we have on both sides, the struggles that the US has gone through with racism, slavery, xenophobia, immigration, etc, has made us stronger and more accepting of other cultures. If I had to pick one thing that makes me proud to be an American, it would be that every citizen is guaranteed a fair shake here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw
Dude, its a cultural thing not a race thing. A Chinese person that grows up in the states doesn't have issues. It's about a guilt society vs a shame society. Japanese act similarly, they might go farther with underhanded things to get ahead, but then if it is unveiled publicly they actually suffer more shame than westerners would. Its just a different approach. The Western way is more focused on the individual, the eastern way is more focused on the group. Sure there are lots of exceptions, everyone is different, but in my experience, Chinese engineers tend to fudge things to give managers what they want to hear a LOT more than American engineers.
Hell, I'm about to review 3 test reports from Beijing this evening. I go over several every week. Some of the engineers over there are better than others, but on average they are overly optimistic compared to test reports form our American engineers. Are they capabke of learning and improving? Certainly. I see it first hand. But when the short comings get pointed out in a conference call, we have to tread very carefully because they get so butt hurt by criticism in front of their peers we are afraid someone is going to start crying or do something drastic. The director we have over there lived in the States for 20 years. He is very helpful in bridging the gap between the two different cultures...
Anyway, I'm just trying to say that I'm extremely open of other cultures and ways of life. If anything I'm strongly anti-racist. But that doesn't mean I cannot recognize cultural differences that can dramatically impact performance when it comes to building and testing complex systems. China faces some serious challenges, political and cultural. It will be very interesting to see what happens over the next 20 years or so, but I still expect them to rise above all other nations to become the next true global hegemony.
Seeing first hand what happened in Thailand during the late 1990s after a brief economic boom, I understand what the original poster is saying. There are literally hundreds of rusting hulks structures just east of Bangkok, along an abandoned double decker highway project that has remained half finished for over a decade now. It was all abandoned to waste away after the currency scare in 1997 when financing went away. Things railroaded quickly and now it is too expensive to tear it down so these old rusting hulks just sit out there providing shelter to squatters.
If you build something that isn't needed right away, there is certainly a chance it will never be needed. Empty buildings age much more quickly than ones with people living in them. China may face some very serious problems economically in the next 5 years. Rising oil prices hurts them more than USA for a lot of reasons. Some American companies are pulling out because of the corruption. Quality is still not there on Chinese products, even for companies with strict QA practices. There have been a lot of failures with high tech endeavors in the past from China, even when they are simply reverse engineering something and copying it. In my experience. Chinese culture doesn't understand guilt the way Westerners do, and it produces engineers that will often cut corners to help out the bottom line. The attitude of the Chinese I work with is really one of arrogance, much like Americans used to be. They assume they are taking over the world, and I think it may be creating a sense apathy towards the low quality of their output. Kind of a shrug and assumption that it will improve. I'm definitely not counting China out, but I'm not sure the lofty goals they are setting right now are as achievable as the nationalistic populace likes to think. We will see...
If the weed is dehydrating and turning into shake, it isn't being stored correctly. A dispensary could use much less expensive and more practical means, like some mason jars, to fix that. I really don't see how an ERP system is better than a couple excel sheets and some common sense. Then again that could probably be said for 90% of ERP customers.
Your argument is moot because increasing efficiency frees up resources to do other things and employ people in other industries. If the cost of a cookie goes down 50% less money will be wasted on inefficient cookies. Then those out of work bakers can make cupcakes that people will buy because they can now afford them thanks to more disposable income.
Decreasing efficiency to achieve higher employment levels is folly. You don't work for the federal government do you? It would explain a lot...
It was a bit of a troll post dude.
The premise of the article is "scientists don't make any money" and my counter was "sales people don't have souls." I'm sure there are a few sales types out there who are passionate about their work (vs doing it for the money), just like there are a few scientists out there who make millions of dollars (vs doing it because they are passionate). You sales engineers walk a delicate tight rope. I don't think i could handle the disparity between what is sold and delivered while maintaining a straight face to a customer.
It really tugs at the more general question:
Is having more money than you need a bad thing?
My answer to that is no, as long as you understand that having more money means you need to manage your life more responsibly. Otherwise you end up like Charlie Sheen.
Much inspirational.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vHT6b7u1_Y&feature=related
Yeah yeah. The article started it (all Scientists are underpaid) and I kept the theme going (all non-scientists/engineers are sell outs).
Socially maladjusted and smarter-than-thou is pretty standard in Engineering. Both of which are side effects of people who live with passion. In a dark world full of people trying to get at you, passionate people tend to become jaded and feel isolated. The smart ones tend to assume everyone else is stupid.
Backstabbing and underhanded happens rarely in Engineering, and not usually by Engineers. Rather, its the people that don't have the brains to hack it, and/or don't understand the feeling of reward that comes from building something. So they become defensive and resort to that kind of behavior. In my experience they usually end up as project managers (not to say their aren't some great PMs out there).
When I see a marketing team spend $5 million to launch an ad campaign that rips off Angry Birds, a pair of Sales guys hobnobbing about the $50 lobster ravioli they expensed last week, or billions of our taxes getting redirected into some bankers' bonuses, I know in my heart that I couldn't be in their shoes without feeling fucked up about it.
I'm not a man of science. Just a simple guy with a flicker of passion left in me. If I worked in one of those fields, I wouldn't have that anymore.
That is my main reason for sticking to Engineering.
Sales guys, stock brokers, marketing people... Those positions are not rewarding, and you have to leave your soul at the door. Science, Engineering, Construction, Mechanics are the jobs for me. Always will be. I couldn't live with myself knowing that my livelyhood came on the back of others, earned by shiesting a percentage out of something I didn't build because I shuffled some paperwork and talked on the phone. Those people live empty soulless lives. They cheat on their partners. And they drive like assholes on the freeway.
Advocating organic produce is one of my favorites. If the entire earth went organic, the planet could only support enough farming for around 4 billion people. Calling for the gradual starvation of 2+ billion people so a entitled minority can be feel better about themselves is the equivalency of another holocaust to me.
Living in California, I have to deal with organic blowhards (they are usually enviro-nuts too) all the time. I don't even try sharing my viewpoint anymore. Those people have their heads so far up their asses they are unwilling to listen to reason...
And the only way to transfer music or videos with an iphone is to sync via itunes. Which then dumps that location data to the computer that might be infected with a virus.
I had an iphone for 2 years, hated itunes the whole time. Switched last summer to a droid. Waaaay happier now.
Take all the pissed off energy and put it into buying an Android device. :)
Ummm. Mod parent totally fucked up please.