If Mexico was buried under 30 feet of snow, people would still be argue about climate change.
If Greenland was 80 degrees in winter, people would still argue about climate change.
Reading the article and comments, it is clear that nobody understands exactly what is happening here. Instead theories are thrown around like gospel on a Sunday morning. There is no consensus. There is hardly any method. Climatology has been so poliicized and glamorized I don't trust anything I read anymore.
Speaking of gospel I'm going to share a prayer...
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference.
An ER nurse can be male or female. The word "cunting" can be interchanged with the word "fucking" in this context. By assuming that "ER nurse" means "female ER nurse", you are actaully propagating mysomgymy, not the parent. Also, you are offtopic.
I think you are talking more about residential housing. Land is pretty cheap to maintain and pay taxes on. I can buy 10 acres in remote parts of San Diego County for $40,000 with access to water and power. If we are talking about retirement savings (i.e. $500k+), that is a relatively cheap entry price and parcels can be bought incrementally. Also, owning land means you can do things like take the family camping/riding/shooting/drinking/etc on your own property. It is also pretty straightfoward to will it to your heirs.
I'm not advocating everybody put 100% of their retirement into real estate, just saying that it is a decent diversification strategy and a bet against dramatic fluctuations on the dollar. And there are some perks to owning real estate that can't be added up with a calculator. There is a reason that most millionaires own a lot of real estate, and it isn't to show off how much money they have. It just makes sense.
If the US dollar collapsed I don't think it would matter which jurisdiciton your savings are in, everything is going to go with it.
I think I'd look at hard goods, like real estate, before putting part of my retirement into other currencies to hedge against trouble with the US dollar.
As a gamer, I have been on a 3 year PC build cycle since 1992. Every three years (more or less), I build a new PC. Since 2008, I've only upgraded once and my current build (now 2 years old, a 2500k overclocked to 4.4 Ghz) feels pretty darnn fast still. It's weird because 15 years ago, I'd be itching for new hardware with a 2 year old system.
Since my Core2 Duo build in 2008, I haven't really seen any noticeable performance jumps other than the move to SSDs and the bigger IPS panels. My old Core 2 system, which is now 6+ years old and on my workbench in the garage can still hold it's own with new games without a problem.
Obviously there is a lot more to PC/game perfomrnace than just the CPU. But what I'm getting at, is ever since the move to multi-core platforms in the mid-2000s and offloading more work to the GPU(s), hardware development for PCs seems to have slowed down quite a bit. Maybe a combination of the newer hardware not being utilizaed as well as stuff back in the ewarly 2000s and smaller bumps up in the various chip/processor design? Perhaps the greater focus on power savings and mobile development? The trend towards netbooks, and now tablets? Maybe the fact that most kids these days only play on consoles?
I dunno. It just thinks like the rate of change has slowed down a lot over the last decade. Or maybe I'm just getting old.
Umm... I guess this assuming that 80% of the people in India are smart phone users. That last i heard, smart phone usage in the USA was around 65%.
The average income in India is $1,500 USD/year vs the USA where it is $50,000 USD/year (roughly 33 times higher). $33 dollars doesn't sound like much to people in the USA, but that is 2.2% of the average Indian person's annual salary. That 2.2% number would be around $1100 outlay for the average American worker.
Perspective is everything when you try compare the consumer market between countries like the USA and India.
Two coworkers of mine recently left to work for Google. THey both took a significant pay hit. I visited one while on a bix trip and all he did was bitch about the commute, long hours, low pay, and high rents in the bay area. But he did feel pride in his work like no other job, and said the food was really good as he had put on the typical "freshman fifteen" at the google campus.
At my work (software company with 1500 employees) they put up a poster in the break room that shows what different types of "typical" employees do on the internet (we are a "internet security" company). It also lists their salary. The developer one shows an Indian lady typing on a keyboard and it says she makes $62,000 a year (we are in CA). The typical "sales" user shows a white guy on the phone and his salary is $112,000 a year.
It's probably the most fucked up thing I've ever seen approved by HR to put up on the wall in an Engineering Department.
I just spent $400 on a deeply discounted helmet. During the researching/buying process I tried on helmet modelss from many manufacturers... AGV, Bell, Shoei, Icon, and a coulple cheap no name brands. I found that every model from every manufacturer has a slightly different internal shape, and they all fit differently on my head. Some of them fit my head so badly (looking at you Shoei) that I almost isntantly got a ehadache wearing the proper size. I ended up picking the helmet that fit me 2nd best, a Bell Star.The best fitting helmet weighed 50% more and was not SNELL certified (safety is a BIG concern for me these days as I have a family). I commute to work on my bike, and I typically scratch/break a shield every 9 months or so.
Why am I saying all this?
Because as much as I'd LOVE to have an intergrated HUD visor/helmet, and would spend $1400 to have such a device, there is no way I'd plop down that kinda money on a helmet model I've never tried on before. Also things like airflow into the lid, airflow around the lid (especially when turning your head), make a huge difference and everything I read it takes millions to properly engineer a great motorcycle helmet.
If the project was to develop a visor, or internal eye piece, or helomet upgrade program that would work on MY helmet, I'd be a lot more interested.
Agreed!
In my experience you lose performance and therefore efficiency with VMs when running CPU core/freq dependent applications. The applicaitons we run are 60-80% faster on "bare metal" linux than any VM deployment we've tried so far.
Do you run special software to monitor your GPU fans at all times? I don't, nor do I want to. I just expect that if the fans fail other components will shut down before they suffer thermal damage (not always the case though, especially in GPUs/coughnvidiacough). Not to mention that if the fans are not hot-swappable, redundancy is pretty pointless because you still have to shutdown and get out a screwdriver. In this case, it looks like you may need more than a screwdrive to replace any of those GPU fans (assumign they are replacable at all, MANY GPU fans are not).
I usually don't know if any of the fans in my system are working when I'm in an OS unless I put my head under the desk and listen for them. I could run some snazztastic radeon montiring tool I suppose, but I'd rather avoid the way too often update notifications, resource utilization, software conflicts, and general PITA that comes with instaling that junk.
From a reliability standpoint, the less moving parts in a PC the better.
Out of the dozens of video card failures I've seen at work, only one wasn't caused by a cooling/fan problem (capacitor blew out, but this could possibly be traced to insufficient cooling as well). I'd say that 95% of the time (if not 99%) moving parts are the root cause of modern PC failures, i.e. fans and disks.
I know its just a reference design but putting three fans, even two fans, on a video card is stupid. In all likelyhood, that more than doubles the failure rate vs a single fan cooling setup...
I used to work for an HPC vendor, about 1/3 of our sales were to oil/gas. From what I understood it was pretty easy for our customers to parrallelize their workload to run across thousand of off the shelf servers with gigabit ethernet vs having to buy a much more expensive setup with high speed interconnects.
I posted my experience with Hero3 cameras below. It is a deeply flawed product that never should have been shipped. I feel for your friends as I ahd a similar terrible experience that messed up a trip to Mexico. GoPro should be ashamed of themselves...
I surf, and ride motorcycles, so my girl decided a gopro would make a cool xmas gift this year. We went to New Zealand in December so she gave it to me early...
Strike 1:
So before we left on our trip, she ordered a Hero3 silver from gopro's website, which advertised "ships by Nov 30th" when she placed the order. After hearing nothing for 4 business days, not even an order confirmation, but having her CC charged $300+tax, she checked the website again and it said the Hero 3 cameras were on 14 day backorder. She then attmpetd to call GoPro. Big mistake. It took 54 minutes to get a live person on the phone. They stated that they could not guarantee when the camera would ship, and could not cancel the order. She gave up, called her Credit card company and disputed the charge, then she went to Best Buy and bought the camera off the shelf there for the same price. The camera from the gopro website never showed up and she got a cryptic email two weeks later from a manager saying the order was cancelled.
Strike 2:
Fast forward two weeks. We used the camera in New Zealand while enjoying our trip, and I was learning to use the camera etc... It seemed ot work OK but had really bad battery life but not a huge deal as I ordered the extended battery pack along with several other accessories, totall around $120. Then we went on a road trip to Baja for New Years. While driving south the GoPro locked up. At that point it wouldn't record at all, evena fter removing the battery and memory card and reinsterting. When we got back I found out it had corrupted the memory card so badly that I couldn't get any videos from that trip off of it. I then followed gopro instructions to reset the camera, and the website said there was a known issue and directed me to update the firmware, but I already had the most recent. Long story slightly shorter, I spent several hours messing with the camera, was hung up on after waiting on hold for 45 min by gopro support, and bought another SD card ($20), before returning it to Best Buy and getting a replacemnet camera.
Strike 3:
Now I have my new camera #2 all updated with the same FW (12/15/2012) and new memory card (which I have two of now) and it seems to work. Yay! So I start recording my commute to work on my motorcycle. After a couple weeks, this camera starts doing the EXACT same thing as my last one. Locks up, corrupts memory cards, factory reset/FW flash/Card reformat doesn't help for more than a few videos. This took about 30-40 videos to start happening, just like the first camera. This time I email gopro support hoping fro better luck. I didn't hear back for 9 days, when I got an email telling me to do all the things I had already tried (and I ahd told them I tried in my first email) and suggesting that I had bought a substandard memory card, which is the same thing their website says (I bought two class 10 san diesk cards along with teh class 10 best buy gave me with the camera). So, I took this camera back to Best Buy as well and complained heavily to their staff about GoPro and the camera. They urged me to try one mroe camera so I did.
Strike 4 (yes there are more than 3):
GoPro Hero3 camera #3 seems to work, jsut like #1 and #2. I start recording videos on my motorcycle and in my truck and what do you know... After about 2 weeks and 25 videos, it locks up, same symptoms as the first two. I waste another 2 horus messing with camera #3, then give up and take it back to Best Buy. They refuse to give me a full refund and I end up with store credit instead. I really can't blame then since it took me 2 1/2 months to ask for my money back after replacing two of them already.
Strike 5 (poosibly another gopro strike):
I write a review of the camera on Amazon and state my experience. Within 2 weeks my review is removed, no word from Amazon about it. I also noticed that sevveral other negative reviews had been taken down (all with the same problems I had) and the camera's rating had actually increased from 2 stars to three. It seems t
I'm pretty sure BMW is going to offer a diesel engine in the 3 series this year. Also, isn't the CC/Passat also available with a diesel and manual transmission?
I live in CA, which seems to frown on diesel engines/fuel for some reason. My buddy just got a Mercedes SUV with a 450ft/lb diesel in it. It's a GREAT vehicle if you have $50k to drop on a mid-sized SUV. It has something like a 600 miles range too. He just bitches baout dieel costing more per gallon but his truck more than makes up for it in MPGs. For my buck (and short commutes) I stick with buying/maintaning older VWs and American V-8s off the used market. There's nothing like the growl of a HEMI with a free flowing exhaust, especially when you can pick one up for less than $10k with plenty of miles left on the ODO. Having a little Golf GTi or something makes a nice counter balance and they get pretty good MPG too...:)
Messing with old hardware to try and make it rack mountable? Pfft. Save the effort. Buy a few mid-range servers and you'll get similar compute performance compared to that energy hog of a cluster. If you really want to use that hardware, don't remount it. Just stack the servers in a corner, plug them in, and install ROCKS. It's still gonna be an energy hog and have crappy performance though.
Hold on. Lets break this down because your post wasn't obvious at all. That is why I replied with my snarky comment. For starters, original message said:
Not for large scale sites its not 10%
Double negative and no period on that abortion of a sentence.
try migrating major online brands with knowing exactly what you are doing and you will lose a metric fuck ton of money
This could me a decent, understandable sentence if it was completely re-written. But to your point, I can decipher two very broad unsubstantiated claims here.
- i know major publishers (no names no pack drill) who've have wasted 10's of millions on botched site rebuilds.
And then there is this sentence. I honestly have no idea what you are trying to communicate in the parentheses here. Ignoring the terrible grammar, the rest of it appears to make another broad claim with no explanation or references.
Now, for your reply...
Oh sorry precious I am a fucking dyslexic deal with it - sorry to make you read for meaning. Exactly which Janet and John book did you get up to at school.
Ok i said with rather than without whoop do fucking do - its fucking obvious what I meant.
Dealing with your dyslexia isn't anyone's problem other than yourself dude. And I have no idea wtf you are talking about in the rest of this breathtakingly stupid comment.
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If Mexico was buried under 30 feet of snow, people would still be argue about climate change.
If Greenland was 80 degrees in winter, people would still argue about climate change.
Reading the article and comments, it is clear that nobody understands exactly what is happening here. Instead theories are thrown around like gospel on a Sunday morning. There is no consensus. There is hardly any method. Climatology has been so poliicized and glamorized I don't trust anything I read anymore.
Speaking of gospel I'm going to share a prayer...
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference.
An ER nurse can be male or female. The word "cunting" can be interchanged with the word "fucking" in this context. By assuming that "ER nurse" means "female ER nurse", you are actaully propagating mysomgymy, not the parent. Also, you are offtopic.
I think you are talking more about residential housing. Land is pretty cheap to maintain and pay taxes on. I can buy 10 acres in remote parts of San Diego County for $40,000 with access to water and power. If we are talking about retirement savings (i.e. $500k+), that is a relatively cheap entry price and parcels can be bought incrementally. Also, owning land means you can do things like take the family camping/riding/shooting/drinking/etc on your own property. It is also pretty straightfoward to will it to your heirs.
I'm not advocating everybody put 100% of their retirement into real estate, just saying that it is a decent diversification strategy and a bet against dramatic fluctuations on the dollar. And there are some perks to owning real estate that can't be added up with a calculator. There is a reason that most millionaires own a lot of real estate, and it isn't to show off how much money they have. It just makes sense.
If the US dollar collapsed I don't think it would matter which jurisdiciton your savings are in, everything is going to go with it.
I think I'd look at hard goods, like real estate, before putting part of my retirement into other currencies to hedge against trouble with the US dollar.
As a gamer, I have been on a 3 year PC build cycle since 1992. Every three years (more or less), I build a new PC. Since 2008, I've only upgraded once and my current build (now 2 years old, a 2500k overclocked to 4.4 Ghz) feels pretty darnn fast still. It's weird because 15 years ago, I'd be itching for new hardware with a 2 year old system. Since my Core2 Duo build in 2008, I haven't really seen any noticeable performance jumps other than the move to SSDs and the bigger IPS panels. My old Core 2 system, which is now 6+ years old and on my workbench in the garage can still hold it's own with new games without a problem.
Obviously there is a lot more to PC/game perfomrnace than just the CPU. But what I'm getting at, is ever since the move to multi-core platforms in the mid-2000s and offloading more work to the GPU(s), hardware development for PCs seems to have slowed down quite a bit. Maybe a combination of the newer hardware not being utilizaed as well as stuff back in the ewarly 2000s and smaller bumps up in the various chip/processor design? Perhaps the greater focus on power savings and mobile development? The trend towards netbooks, and now tablets? Maybe the fact that most kids these days only play on consoles?
I dunno. It just thinks like the rate of change has slowed down a lot over the last decade. Or maybe I'm just getting old.
EOM
Umm... I guess this assuming that 80% of the people in India are smart phone users. That last i heard, smart phone usage in the USA was around 65%.
The average income in India is $1,500 USD/year vs the USA where it is $50,000 USD/year (roughly 33 times higher). $33 dollars doesn't sound like much to people in the USA, but that is 2.2% of the average Indian person's annual salary. That 2.2% number would be around $1100 outlay for the average American worker.
Perspective is everything when you try compare the consumer market between countries like the USA and India.
Two coworkers of mine recently left to work for Google. THey both took a significant pay hit. I visited one while on a bix trip and all he did was bitch about the commute, long hours, low pay, and high rents in the bay area. But he did feel pride in his work like no other job, and said the food was really good as he had put on the typical "freshman fifteen" at the google campus.
At my work (software company with 1500 employees) they put up a poster in the break room that shows what different types of "typical" employees do on the internet (we are a "internet security" company). It also lists their salary. The developer one shows an Indian lady typing on a keyboard and it says she makes $62,000 a year (we are in CA). The typical "sales" user shows a white guy on the phone and his salary is $112,000 a year. It's probably the most fucked up thing I've ever seen approved by HR to put up on the wall in an Engineering Department.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Agreed. It sounds cool and I'd like to try it, but it is a scary proposition.
I just spent $400 on a deeply discounted helmet. During the researching/buying process I tried on helmet modelss from many manufacturers... AGV, Bell, Shoei, Icon, and a coulple cheap no name brands. I found that every model from every manufacturer has a slightly different internal shape, and they all fit differently on my head. Some of them fit my head so badly (looking at you Shoei) that I almost isntantly got a ehadache wearing the proper size. I ended up picking the helmet that fit me 2nd best, a Bell Star.The best fitting helmet weighed 50% more and was not SNELL certified (safety is a BIG concern for me these days as I have a family). I commute to work on my bike, and I typically scratch/break a shield every 9 months or so.
Why am I saying all this?
Because as much as I'd LOVE to have an intergrated HUD visor/helmet, and would spend $1400 to have such a device, there is no way I'd plop down that kinda money on a helmet model I've never tried on before. Also things like airflow into the lid, airflow around the lid (especially when turning your head), make a huge difference and everything I read it takes millions to properly engineer a great motorcycle helmet.
If the project was to develop a visor, or internal eye piece, or helomet upgrade program that would work on MY helmet, I'd be a lot more interested.
Agreed! In my experience you lose performance and therefore efficiency with VMs when running CPU core/freq dependent applications. The applicaitons we run are 60-80% faster on "bare metal" linux than any VM deployment we've tried so far.
Do you run special software to monitor your GPU fans at all times? I don't, nor do I want to. I just expect that if the fans fail other components will shut down before they suffer thermal damage (not always the case though, especially in GPUs /coughnvidiacough). Not to mention that if the fans are not hot-swappable, redundancy is pretty pointless because you still have to shutdown and get out a screwdriver. In this case, it looks like you may need more than a screwdrive to replace any of those GPU fans (assumign they are replacable at all, MANY GPU fans are not).
I usually don't know if any of the fans in my system are working when I'm in an OS unless I put my head under the desk and listen for them. I could run some snazztastic radeon montiring tool I suppose, but I'd rather avoid the way too often update notifications, resource utilization, software conflicts, and general PITA that comes with instaling that junk.
From a reliability standpoint, the less moving parts in a PC the better.
Out of the dozens of video card failures I've seen at work, only one wasn't caused by a cooling/fan problem (capacitor blew out, but this could possibly be traced to insufficient cooling as well). I'd say that 95% of the time (if not 99%) moving parts are the root cause of modern PC failures, i.e. fans and disks.
I know its just a reference design but putting three fans, even two fans, on a video card is stupid. In all likelyhood, that more than doubles the failure rate vs a single fan cooling setup...
Much better explanation than I had! :)
I used to work for an HPC vendor, about 1/3 of our sales were to oil/gas. From what I understood it was pretty easy for our customers to parrallelize their workload to run across thousand of off the shelf servers with gigabit ethernet vs having to buy a much more expensive setup with high speed interconnects.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jwg4mbGL4JE#t=36s
I posted my experience with Hero3 cameras below. It is a deeply flawed product that never should have been shipped. I feel for your friends as I ahd a similar terrible experience that messed up a trip to Mexico. GoPro should be ashamed of themselves...
I surf, and ride motorcycles, so my girl decided a gopro would make a cool xmas gift this year. We went to New Zealand in December so she gave it to me early...
Strike 1:
So before we left on our trip, she ordered a Hero3 silver from gopro's website, which advertised "ships by Nov 30th" when she placed the order. After hearing nothing for 4 business days, not even an order confirmation, but having her CC charged $300+tax, she checked the website again and it said the Hero 3 cameras were on 14 day backorder. She then attmpetd to call GoPro. Big mistake. It took 54 minutes to get a live person on the phone. They stated that they could not guarantee when the camera would ship, and could not cancel the order. She gave up, called her Credit card company and disputed the charge, then she went to Best Buy and bought the camera off the shelf there for the same price. The camera from the gopro website never showed up and she got a cryptic email two weeks later from a manager saying the order was cancelled.
Strike 2:
Fast forward two weeks. We used the camera in New Zealand while enjoying our trip, and I was learning to use the camera etc... It seemed ot work OK but had really bad battery life but not a huge deal as I ordered the extended battery pack along with several other accessories, totall around $120. Then we went on a road trip to Baja for New Years. While driving south the GoPro locked up. At that point it wouldn't record at all, evena fter removing the battery and memory card and reinsterting. When we got back I found out it had corrupted the memory card so badly that I couldn't get any videos from that trip off of it. I then followed gopro instructions to reset the camera, and the website said there was a known issue and directed me to update the firmware, but I already had the most recent. Long story slightly shorter, I spent several hours messing with the camera, was hung up on after waiting on hold for 45 min by gopro support, and bought another SD card ($20), before returning it to Best Buy and getting a replacemnet camera.
Strike 3:
Now I have my new camera #2 all updated with the same FW (12/15/2012) and new memory card (which I have two of now) and it seems to work. Yay! So I start recording my commute to work on my motorcycle. After a couple weeks, this camera starts doing the EXACT same thing as my last one. Locks up, corrupts memory cards, factory reset/FW flash/Card reformat doesn't help for more than a few videos. This took about 30-40 videos to start happening, just like the first camera. This time I email gopro support hoping fro better luck. I didn't hear back for 9 days, when I got an email telling me to do all the things I had already tried (and I ahd told them I tried in my first email) and suggesting that I had bought a substandard memory card, which is the same thing their website says (I bought two class 10 san diesk cards along with teh class 10 best buy gave me with the camera). So, I took this camera back to Best Buy as well and complained heavily to their staff about GoPro and the camera. They urged me to try one mroe camera so I did.
Strike 4 (yes there are more than 3):
GoPro Hero3 camera #3 seems to work, jsut like #1 and #2. I start recording videos on my motorcycle and in my truck and what do you know... After about 2 weeks and 25 videos, it locks up, same symptoms as the first two. I waste another 2 horus messing with camera #3, then give up and take it back to Best Buy. They refuse to give me a full refund and I end up with store credit instead. I really can't blame then since it took me 2 1/2 months to ask for my money back after replacing two of them already.
Strike 5 (poosibly another gopro strike):
I write a review of the camera on Amazon and state my experience. Within 2 weeks my review is removed, no word from Amazon about it. I also noticed that sevveral other negative reviews had been taken down (all with the same problems I had) and the camera's rating had actually increased from 2 stars to three. It seems t
I'm pretty sure BMW is going to offer a diesel engine in the 3 series this year. Also, isn't the CC/Passat also available with a diesel and manual transmission?
:)
I live in CA, which seems to frown on diesel engines/fuel for some reason. My buddy just got a Mercedes SUV with a 450ft/lb diesel in it. It's a GREAT vehicle if you have $50k to drop on a mid-sized SUV. It has something like a 600 miles range too. He just bitches baout dieel costing more per gallon but his truck more than makes up for it in MPGs. For my buck (and short commutes) I stick with buying/maintaning older VWs and American V-8s off the used market. There's nothing like the growl of a HEMI with a free flowing exhaust, especially when you can pick one up for less than $10k with plenty of miles left on the ODO. Having a little Golf GTi or something makes a nice counter balance and they get pretty good MPG too...
I get pretty darn close to the EPA estimates on all 3 of my vehicles. Definitely not 25-50% less than the window stickers said...
Messing with old hardware to try and make it rack mountable? Pfft. Save the effort. Buy a few mid-range servers and you'll get similar compute performance compared to that energy hog of a cluster. If you really want to use that hardware, don't remount it. Just stack the servers in a corner, plug them in, and install ROCKS. It's still gonna be an energy hog and have crappy performance though.
Not for large scale sites its not 10%
Double negative and no period on that abortion of a sentence.
try migrating major online brands with knowing exactly what you are doing and you will lose a metric fuck ton of money
This could me a decent, understandable sentence if it was completely re-written. But to your point, I can decipher two very broad unsubstantiated claims here.
- i know major publishers (no names no pack drill) who've have wasted 10's of millions on botched site rebuilds.
And then there is this sentence. I honestly have no idea what you are trying to communicate in the parentheses here. Ignoring the terrible grammar, the rest of it appears to make another broad claim with no explanation or references.
Now, for your reply...
Oh sorry precious I am a fucking dyslexic deal with it - sorry to make you read for meaning. Exactly which Janet and John book did you get up to at school. Ok i said with rather than without whoop do fucking do - its fucking obvious what I meant.
Dealing with your dyslexia isn't anyone's problem other than yourself dude. And I have no idea wtf you are talking about in the rest of this breathtakingly stupid comment.
I'm more comfortable with Stupid Engineering Opposition