okay, but does this speak to a lack of capacity on the part of russian hardware, or to the ISS being designed around (at least to some extent) the shuttle's capabilities? just curious.
Can we get past the monetization of the effort and just do it for it's own sake? Jeez, when did we become so cold and unimaginative? I don't give a shit if it costs more, let's do it because we CAN. As a kid someone gave me a set of Apollo slides and those images have stayed with me into middle-age. It's exciting that humans can pull off something like this. We can piss away billions of dollars on earth-based bullshit with zero return (like wars) and yet the nay-sayers are out waving the cost flag when manned spaceflight is mentioned. Give me a break.
A parallel, in my mind, are libertarian arguments for less of whichever-bureaucracy-is-convenient. We're all supposedly free agents happily pursuing our separate agendas. Yeah right, 300 million "free agents" living within a confined national boundary, with our existence bounded in a web of interdependency. If you can maintain the illusion of being a free agent in THAT, then you have a better imagination than I do.
My point is, we don't make greater-good decisions on the basis of individuals. Long term investments in infrastructure, technology, or business incubation are speculative in large part. A selfish individual might not give such the go-ahead. That's fine, but don't presume that the individual has some wonderful predictive sense that they can see the outcome of a long-term venture. It just isn't real.
Right or wrong, like it or not, sometimes we have to pool the resources (and the risk) and do things as a collective.
Amen. Even MORE obvious day-to-day activities made into a "patent". They just don't get that offering it up under the guise of a patent doesn't make it all that clever. Call this one bullshit.
...and don't forget that there is little disincentive, especially at the higher levels. seriously, how much real pain is there for someone in a position of power whose greatest punishment is to be sent packing? you or i can jaywalk and be penalized out of all proportion, yet those higher on the political food-chain can use/abuse their power and get off without much (if any) material repurcussion.
things are severely out of balance.
No kidding. This reminds me of why I don't miss living in Ohio; the politics of that place suck. How anyone thinks instituting a monopoloy is a good idea is beyond me. It flies in this face of economic and common sense, hence, the Ohio government thinks it's A Good Thing.... idiots.
Then I stand corrected.
Back in the late 70's/early 80's I had a Secret clearance and I too didn't recall anything other than the "are you a Communist" type stuff.
What you describe is much more plausible.
Thank you for correcting my understanding.
Mike
Still wondering how someone's sexual preference is related to their job performance. These people are living in the dark ages... they actually believe the rest of us give a sh*t who sleeps with whom.
I was born at the time Sputnik was launched and grew up being allowed to take "transistor radios" to school to listen in to broadcasts of Apollo missions. It was beyond cool - there was a sense of being part of a huge adventure. How did we become so jaded? It's like we've lost the ability to dream big dreams.
you used the word "efficient", but did you mean "sustainable"? I'd totally agree with your line of thinking. if us humans, at least in the developed parts of the world, can ever shake the use-once-and-toss mentality we'd be a lot better off for it.
i lived in cincy for some years... chabot was a wannabe then and appears to have grown none in the meantime. this is just more republican ass-kissing, simple as that.
Don't get all worked up, I was just having a little tongue-in-cheek fun. Where I was headed with this was to make the point that there is a serious disconnect between current law and common-sense.
Eventually someone will actually do what I wrote and will do themselves serious harm - just as you point out. That's not a good thing.
We have too much bad law, enforced just like good law, and we end up making criminals out of people like you and me. There IS a difference, and it really is okay to work towards improving the system. Trouble is, I don't see a hell of a lot of effort in that direction; instead, we have lowlifes milking the bad law to its utmost.
since common sense and reason have not prevailed, just beat the f*ck out of the next "representative" of whatever organization is trying to shake you down. do it consistently and the word will get out. this is the only thing that works with a bully - remember your schoolyard days?
no, i am not kidding. there is a time and place for everything and this would seem to be it.
enough pain in the system and the harassment sh*t will simply stop.
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okay, but does this speak to a lack of capacity on the part of russian hardware, or to the ISS being designed around (at least to some extent) the shuttle's capabilities? just curious.
no kidding. by now his phone is bugged, he's on some sort of watch list, and a pack of DHS goons is on the way for a 'visit'
Can we get past the monetization of the effort and just do it for it's own sake? Jeez, when did we become so cold and unimaginative? I don't give a shit if it costs more, let's do it because we CAN. As a kid someone gave me a set of Apollo slides and those images have stayed with me into middle-age. It's exciting that humans can pull off something like this. We can piss away billions of dollars on earth-based bullshit with zero return (like wars) and yet the nay-sayers are out waving the cost flag when manned spaceflight is mentioned. Give me a break.
A parallel, in my mind, are libertarian arguments for less of whichever-bureaucracy-is-convenient. We're all supposedly free agents happily pursuing our separate agendas. Yeah right, 300 million "free agents" living within a confined national boundary, with our existence bounded in a web of interdependency. If you can maintain the illusion of being a free agent in THAT, then you have a better imagination than I do. My point is, we don't make greater-good decisions on the basis of individuals. Long term investments in infrastructure, technology, or business incubation are speculative in large part. A selfish individual might not give such the go-ahead. That's fine, but don't presume that the individual has some wonderful predictive sense that they can see the outcome of a long-term venture. It just isn't real. Right or wrong, like it or not, sometimes we have to pool the resources (and the risk) and do things as a collective.
so in 1956 someone saw that coal and oil reserves were dwindling... how prophetic.
Amen. Even MORE obvious day-to-day activities made into a "patent". They just don't get that offering it up under the guise of a patent doesn't make it all that clever. Call this one bullshit.
...and don't forget that there is little disincentive, especially at the higher levels. seriously, how much real pain is there for someone in a position of power whose greatest punishment is to be sent packing? you or i can jaywalk and be penalized out of all proportion, yet those higher on the political food-chain can use/abuse their power and get off without much (if any) material repurcussion. things are severely out of balance.
No kidding. This reminds me of why I don't miss living in Ohio; the politics of that place suck. How anyone thinks instituting a monopoloy is a good idea is beyond me. It flies in this face of economic and common sense, hence, the Ohio government thinks it's A Good Thing.... idiots.
Then I stand corrected. Back in the late 70's/early 80's I had a Secret clearance and I too didn't recall anything other than the "are you a Communist" type stuff. What you describe is much more plausible. Thank you for correcting my understanding. Mike
Still wondering how someone's sexual preference is related to their job performance. These people are living in the dark ages... they actually believe the rest of us give a sh*t who sleeps with whom.
I was born at the time Sputnik was launched and grew up being allowed to take "transistor radios" to school to listen in to broadcasts of Apollo missions. It was beyond cool - there was a sense of being part of a huge adventure. How did we become so jaded? It's like we've lost the ability to dream big dreams.
you used the word "efficient", but did you mean "sustainable"? I'd totally agree with your line of thinking. if us humans, at least in the developed parts of the world, can ever shake the use-once-and-toss mentality we'd be a lot better off for it.
i lived in cincy for some years... chabot was a wannabe then and appears to have grown none in the meantime. this is just more republican ass-kissing, simple as that.
fair enough, so let's try the word "surveillance"... does that suit you better?
Don't get all worked up, I was just having a little tongue-in-cheek fun. Where I was headed with this was to make the point that there is a serious disconnect between current law and common-sense.
Eventually someone will actually do what I wrote and will do themselves serious harm - just as you point out. That's not a good thing.
We have too much bad law, enforced just like good law, and we end up making criminals out of people like you and me. There IS a difference, and it really is okay to work towards improving the system. Trouble is, I don't see a hell of a lot of effort in that direction; instead, we have lowlifes milking the bad law to its utmost.
Have a nice day.
Mike
since common sense and reason have not prevailed, just beat the f*ck out of the next "representative" of whatever organization is trying to shake you down. do it consistently and the word will get out. this is the only thing that works with a bully - remember your schoolyard days? no, i am not kidding. there is a time and place for everything and this would seem to be it. enough pain in the system and the harassment sh*t will simply stop.
then again, why would we want them (Quebec and N.S.)? Hell, the Canadians don't want them.