If you think about it any given show is only $8/month (4 episodes at $1.99 each),
What do you mean only? That's the price of a movie ticket, in a theater.
These are absurd prices. They are once again killing their golden goose by ripping people off.
What they should do is sell episodes *worldwide* (lots of people are willing to pay a reasonable amount to watch new stuff at the same time it airs in the US), at something like $0.25 per episode, or maybe $50 for all you can get.
You, sir, are a terrible consumer, and should be ashamed of yourself. What is next? Christmas becoming a holiday of the spirit, with no shopping involved? People like you doomed USA.
Thanks for the compliment:-) However I'm busy dooming my own country with my cheapness.
If 'most people' sorted things your way, almost nobody would ever buy a game.
Actually most people start with 3, for games and for everything else that is not essential. That's a fact, people usually have one or two hobbies they can/want assign a non trivial budget two.
So in your business model, consider the fact that no matter how good your product is, some people will only want it free. And if they can't get it, it's fine by them, they'll just forget it exist.
If they're only going to use your product for free, how is it hurting business to piss them off? As you stated, they're not going to buy it anyway.
Because using your product for free is not the worst scenario. Just because they don't play it doesn't mean they don't know people who do, or spend time in forums bashing you.
Take slashdot (not literally please): Many people here won't waste a chance to criticize Spore's DRM, even if they don't really care about Spore and wouldn't buy it even if it didn't have any DRM at all. Still, we are _pissed_ at EA for the DRM, and let everyone know.
When it's right-priced, most people will gladly pay for it.
Yes, but that's subjective. For me, no game is worth more than $5. Not because I'm cheap, but because I hardly ever play, and if it do, it's only for a while. So if you want to get $50 from me you are going to let me play like 10 different games or so. Note that I would still play less time than most gamers.
It's possible though that the model that they'd need to make me a regular customer is just not viable. I don't really care as these days I can live without games. But when I played a lot I couldn't really afford all the games I wanted, and now that I can -within reason- I just don't feel like playing.
when faced with the option of getting something for free or paying for it, and in the absence of any significant risks, you don't need complex economic studies to show you that most people will opt for the free route."
Well, there's always a third route: Not getting that something, meaning that having these three options:
- 1. Play for free
- 2. Play at a cost
- 3. Don't play at all
Many people will sort it 1,3,2.
Also, some people will happily do 2,1,3 as long the price is reasonable and so it what they get.
So... stop trying to get money from people who just don't value your product if it isn't free, because it can't be done. You can piss them off though, and that can hurt your business.
I do. But then, it's a phone and not something I really need. Just because I can get it if I really really want it doesn't mean I'm going to jump through hoops for the fun of Google or anyone else.
I'm a developer (not an android developer, though), so I'd like to get the unlocked version just in case I feel like doing something eventually.
Anyway, I'm sure these facts:
- You need to pay $25 to get all the details
- You need to give your credit card details to Google and some other party
- Only when you do 1) and 2) you learn that you have to pay at least $179 extra for shipping (much more in other countries according to another post)
Is going to be enough to render what was originally a good thing into a piss off for many potential developers.
By the way, you can only order ONE. If at least you could get 10 and share the shipping cost it could be somewhat more of a decent deal.
As additional info, you pay those $25 with google checkout, but for the actual phone you need to give your credit card details again to brightstarcorp.com.
Also, shipping to Spain:
UPS Innovations (Tracking) - $170.14
That small piece of info is shown after you give your credit card details.
So the total price if you are in Spain (I assume it's the same everywhere in Europe) is $594.
I don't feel like giving UPS half the price of the device, so I'm going to pass. $25 down the drain, though.
I don't think requesters really understand me when I suggest that if they were REALLY capable of using my code as a starting point, they would easily be capable of simply starting from scratch.
I think to fail to understand the point of asking for the source code of something:-)
Is there ever a point where a web developer will concede that the web is not the Best Platform for Everything in The Universe(tm)? Or is it just that they were never schooled in the old temple and given a proper appreciation of a real language like C++?
Well, you see, web developers are probably developing webs which I'd say the web is the Best Platform for.
As for the C++ remark and its real language status, I can't wait for your gmail or meebo implementation without using any of a fake language.
What, you mean in these two decades since I last rode a bike there hasn't been any progress here? So exactly what have you guys been doing while we were making sure Moore's law didn't fail?
Now an old timer will know this and set the zipcode field as a varchar.
Well, I hope that your old timer uses a varchar not because of a east code zip rule (which instantly points out that he's been working with zip codes for way too long and maybe needs to be promoted to phone numbers) but because you don't control the zip codes rules and they can change (maybe adding routing numbers?).
Also, so you can impress your zip code expert group next meeting: Some countries use letters as well. And some, don't have zip codes AT ALL!
Slashdot Mirror
You can always count on some other slashdotter trying to trick the system and settings off alarms.
Since I have to be at the airport 2 hours before take off, at least I'll now something to do.
CCExtractor
*Sorry, couldn't resist.
What do you mean only? That's the price of a movie ticket, in a theater.
These are absurd prices. They are once again killing their golden goose by ripping people off.
What they should do is sell episodes *worldwide* (lots of people are willing to pay a reasonable amount to watch new stuff at the same time it airs in the US), at something like $0.25 per episode, or maybe $50 for all you can get.
What a dilemma :-)
That looks like 8000 people have a poorly configured RSS client and are downloading 'Bob and his 3 friends drunk and naked (note: No sex)'.
I'm not saying what games should cost. I'm saying what are they worth *to me*.
Thanks for the compliment :-) However I'm busy dooming my own country with my cheapness.
Actually most people start with 3, for games and for everything else that is not essential. That's a fact, people usually have one or two hobbies they can/want assign a non trivial budget two.
So in your business model, consider the fact that no matter how good your product is, some people will only want it free. And if they can't get it, it's fine by them, they'll just forget it exist.
Obviously you are aiming at a cheap +5 informative.
Would be nice to respect other people's work, as these people weren't obviously aiming at 10 cheap ad pages.
Because using your product for free is not the worst scenario. Just because they don't play it doesn't mean they don't know people who do, or spend time in forums bashing you.
Take slashdot (not literally please): Many people here won't waste a chance to criticize Spore's DRM, even if they don't really care about Spore and wouldn't buy it even if it didn't have any DRM at all. Still, we are _pissed_ at EA for the DRM, and let everyone know.
Yes, but that's subjective. For me, no game is worth more than $5. Not because I'm cheap, but because I hardly ever play, and if it do, it's only for a while. So if you want to get $50 from me you are going to let me play like 10 different games or so. Note that I would still play less time than most gamers.
It's possible though that the model that they'd need to make me a regular customer is just not viable. I don't really care as these days I can live without games. But when I played a lot I couldn't really afford all the games I wanted, and now that I can -within reason- I just don't feel like playing.
Well, there's always a third route: Not getting that something, meaning that having these three options:
- 1. Play for free
- 2. Play at a cost
- 3. Don't play at all
Many people will sort it 1,3,2.
Also, some people will happily do 2,1,3 as long the price is reasonable and so it what they get.
So... stop trying to get money from people who just don't value your product if it isn't free, because it can't be done. You can piss them off though, and that can hurt your business.
Boy does your wife bring back luck...
You might want to google him before calling him any name.
Unless the phone is actually manufactured in the U.S. there's no reasonable reason for Europeans to pay 50% more than Americans.
They could ship it from China (or wherever) and we wouldn't be paying double of everything for no good reason.
Trust me, the Chinese have decent shipping fees.
I do. But then, it's a phone and not something I really need. Just because I can get it if I really really want it doesn't mean I'm going to jump through hoops for the fun of Google or anyone else.
I'm a developer (not an android developer, though), so I'd like to get the unlocked version just in case I feel like doing something eventually.
Anyway, I'm sure these facts: - You need to pay $25 to get all the details
- You need to give your credit card details to Google and some other party
- Only when you do 1) and 2) you learn that you have to pay at least $179 extra for shipping (much more in other countries according to another post)
Is going to be enough to render what was originally a good thing into a piss off for many potential developers.
By the way, you can only order ONE. If at least you could get 10 and share the shipping cost it could be somewhat more of a decent deal.
As additional info, you pay those $25 with google checkout, but for the actual phone you need to give your credit card details again to brightstarcorp.com.
Also, shipping to Spain:
UPS Innovations (Tracking) - $170.14
That small piece of info is shown after you give your credit card details. So the total price if you are in Spain (I assume it's the same everywhere in Europe) is $594. I don't feel like giving UPS half the price of the device, so I'm going to pass. $25 down the drain, though.
I think to fail to understand the point of asking for the source code of something :-)
Why is this -1? He's right...
Well, you see, web developers are probably developing webs which I'd say the web is the Best Platform for.
As for the C++ remark and its real language status, I can't wait for your gmail or meebo implementation without using any of a fake language.
What, you mean in these two decades since I last rode a bike there hasn't been any progress here? So exactly what have you guys been doing while we were making sure Moore's law didn't fail?
Zone Improvement Plan. Introduced by the US Postal Service (was US Post Office Department) in 1963.
(Blatantly copied from the first google result)
There is some truth to this: They fight for more reasonable deadlines and budgets to start with.
In fact, I've seen inexperienced programmers say out loud things like "7 weeks? What will I do with the other 5?"
So your strategy is to start by filtering out the violent ones?